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E'lyna Mis Dimaloun
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.16 07:44:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Because the failure to include them was a mistake, not done on purpose.
Uh-huh. Was this idea pitched to the CSM, or did you accidentally forget that too? |
Sol Mortis
An Heroes
3
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Posted - 2013.05.16 07:53:00 -
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Removing corp quitting timers is a horrible idea.
If somebody is in a corporation war and you are hunting them, they can quit corp as soon as a scout alt sees you undock to come after them. The timer is much more important than it seems, because it forces people to make a choice in anticipation of risk that will not necessarily pay off.
This essentially removes all risk from warfare for unwilling participants. It completely undermines the entire concept of consequences. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1870
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Posted - 2013.05.16 10:27:00 -
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E'lyna Mis Dimaloun wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Because the failure to include them was a mistake, not done on purpose. Uh-huh. Was this idea pitched to the CSM, or did you accidentally forget that too?
It was proposed and discussed with the CSM both in our private chat channel and in the private CSM forums. Game Designer | Team True Grit |
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Sparkus Volundar
Applied Creations The Fendahlian Collective
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Posted - 2013.05.16 14:37:00 -
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Sparkus Volundar wrote:Why would you change the corporate system to let someone with roles drop Corp and leave without delay but then intentionally leave it so that a Corp cannot kick someone straight away too?
I think these things should be equal because there are pros and cons for having a cooldown timer [or not] for both parties depending on their play styles.
CCP FoxFour,
Bumping my question about Corp leaving/kicking from page 1 as I didn't see this topic covered yet.
It would helpful if the rationale behind the proposal was clearer. Eve corporations are not like RL jobs where a Corp pays someone to work for them and they should have some kind of employee rights. ItGÇÖs more like a club where people pay a fee/subscription (tax) to be a part of it but if they do something dodgy, the club can stop them coming back.
Off the top of my head, some observations and consequences:
1. Corp property thieves with roles can continue to taunt and/or kill their corpmates for 24 hrs. 2. Corpmate killers with roles can continue to kill their corpmates for 24 hrs. 3. Currently, there is the potential for a Corp to retaliate with PvP in empire space. 4. The proposal lets the thief/killer quit Corp if it looks remotely like they could suffer consequences.
This post isnGÇÖt a request to make Eve fluffy and remove the chance for point 1 or 2 to occur. It is made it to try and retain the slim chance that a corpmate killer/thief could suffer consequences in Empire space after their actions.
So instead of removing the Resign Roles And Quit timer whilst retaining the inability to kick someone who had roles for 24 hours, I would suggest the following:
A. Leave the timer the same for both parties but reduce it from 24 hrs. B. Remove the 24 timer for both parties to prevent it seeming to only serve as griefing mechanic.
Regards, Sparks Applied Creations is recruiting. Mystic Volundar says, "It could be you! " |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7875
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Posted - 2013.05.16 23:12:00 -
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Don't hand out roles willy-nilly? mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
Orion Kilo
G0P-ST0P P I R A T
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Posted - 2013.05.17 11:09:00 -
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If you have made an instant way out of the corporation, why not do an instant start of the war? Because why not my opinion, these changes amount to |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
670
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Posted - 2013.05.18 07:19:00 -
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No comment on the impact of this change on Wardecs? R Tape loading error |
Chris Winters
NerfBull Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.06.19 02:06:00 -
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I'm getting a Corp Stasis of 24 hours. I was the CEO and dropped the ceo role but I'm still in the corp. Now I'm applying to my new friends corp and I'm getting a corp stasis of 24 hours.
Is this still an effect? If I completely quit out of the corp into an NPC corp would my new CEO be able to accept me into the corp? Because that's what it seems to do on Sisi but I'm getting the Corp Stasis on tranq
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Chris Winters
Hard Six Corp.
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Posted - 2013.06.19 07:25:00 -
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Update: So I quit the corp straight to an NPC corp and I was accepted into the corp no problems. It works well if you just straight quit the corp instead of staying in a player corp and then trying to get into another player corp |
Terrorfrodo
Renegade Hobbits for Mordor
492
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Posted - 2013.06.20 13:56:00 -
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This does not work at all. Tried do join another corp directly; CEO could not accept app because of recent roles. Then on another char I tried to quit corp first to go into npc corp, also did not work because of stasis period.
In short, this supposed feature simply does not exist
Anyone knows whether I need to be in a station to complete the joining of a corp when the application was already filed from a station? . |
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xttz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
133
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:17:00 -
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Terrorfrodo wrote:This does not work at all. Tried do join another corp directly; CEO could not accept app because of recent roles. Then on another char I tried to quit corp first to go into npc corp, also did not work because of stasis period. In short, this supposed feature simply does not exist Anyone knows whether I need to be in a station to complete the joining of a corp when the application was already filed from a station?
The station thing is likely because they don't want people swapping corps (and therefore wardecs) while being shot at in space. I don't understand why the restriction is still on applying to the corp, rather than accepting the offer, though. |
Draconus Lofwyr
EntroPrelatial Industria Here Be Dragons
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:28:00 -
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Quiting corp is still a 24 hr timer with roles, would like an update on the status of the "investigation" or if its another abandoned feature left half done to languish away in the system? |
Terrorfrodo
Renegade Hobbits for Mordor
537
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Posted - 2013.07.17 20:40:00 -
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Yup, I guess this is the first ever feature in EVE Online that had its own dedicated dev blog but does in fact not actually exist at all. It's not even buggy, it just isn't there. . |
xttz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
136
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Posted - 2013.07.23 11:01:00 -
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I dropped a character with Director role from a corp at the weekend, and was able to join another corp immediately. Instead of using the 'drop roles' button I just used 'quit corp' instead and I was in an NPC corp instantly.
Has anyone tried going straight to quit rather than the old process of dropping roles first? |
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