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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7800
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:37:00 -
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And really if you're going to go down the route of removing the need for a player to be docked/logged out in order to be kicked then you're basically removing the consequences of bad practices in corp recruitment mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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Aynen
Federal Guard and Recon Corporation
18
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:50:00 -
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I've been thinking about the link between Dust and factional warfare in Eve and I'm wondering:
In fw, the primary motivation for most participants seems to be easy access to pew pew. So I was thinking that using this motivation to drive the link between the two games would probably be optimal. So how do you get what happens in Dust to generate pew pew rather than industrial or monetary rewards? If both sides of a fw conflict in orbit of a district where fighting is taking place in Dust would gain fleet bonuses based on how the battle over that district is going, then A: people gather around planets more, generating pew pew, and B: Eve players would benefit more from following directly how a Dust battle is going and interfering with it through bombardment, which in turn benefits the Dust players. It would then be pivotal that Eve players have a quick and easy way to see where in their system there is a Dust battle going on and they would need some way of determining how that battle is progressing, probably through some slider, similar to the influence slider in Incursion systems. |
Liner Xiandra
Sparks Inc Zero Hour Alliance
199
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Posted - 2013.05.14 20:11:00 -
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Sparkus Volundar wrote:Why would you change the corporate system to let someone with roles drop Corp and leave without delay but then intentionally leave it so that a Corp cannot kick someone straight away too?
I think these things should be equal because there are pros and cons for having a cooldown timer [or not] for both parties depending on their play styles.
Bumping this again as it didn't get touched on yet.
Why do we have a timer now for kicking but (if it wasn't bugged) not when dropping corp by free will? What is the game design principle behind this? |
Lyrrashae
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
429
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Posted - 2013.05.14 20:36:00 -
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It compels the question:
Did Fox get his(/her?) shoes back? EVE will never accomodate you, or me, or anyone. What will always do, is give everyone options. So research. Learn. Evaluate. Choose. Reap the consequences and/or rewards. But for ****'s sakes, stop whining. |
Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services The Possum Lodge
308
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Posted - 2013.05.14 20:48:00 -
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Quote:As a member of a corporation you can now quit a corporation instantly without waiting the 24 hours after dropping roles...
|This corporation change also shipped on May 6th.
Didn't see this in any patchnotes.....either it didn't get done or CCP is still having trouble communicating...this is why we bug you when you don't release patchnotes, b/c stuff like this gets snuck in all stealthy like.... http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing -á-á < Unified Inventory is NOT ready... |
SerratedX
Fistful of Finns Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2013.05.14 21:15:00 -
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Quote:As a member of a corporation you can now quit a corporation instantly without waiting the 24 hours after dropping roles...
So basically once again CCP decided to nerf wardecs.
If I understand this correct everyone can now do logistics without using off-corp characters?
For example: I have a jump freighter in a corp that has been wardecced. I come in from losec to hisec. The character drops corp in losec station. Warps to hisec gate and roams around in hisec risk free from wardeccers, jump from hisec to losec station cyno. Reapply to corp, jump to nullsec.
I can't be arsed to test this myself since that would require me to log in but if that works then CCP has ****** up royally once again.
Anyone care to correct me? |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
656
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Posted - 2013.05.14 21:34:00 -
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This basically makes the inferno expansion features completely worthless. You should think about the implications of this change on existing features, Wardecs are a iconic game mechanic and are being put second.
Members of a corporation that's under a wardec shouldn't be able to leave the corporation this easily.... R Tape loading error |
Maximus Andendare
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
154
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Posted - 2013.05.14 21:43:00 -
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I always figured the 24h waiting period was sort of a rage-quit check. By forcing the wait for 24h (like the 10h biomass timer), the player is prohibited from a rash decision. Maybe just lower the timer to 3h or something more reasonable, at least to give someone a chance to consider their actions? |
Solar Rift
Terra Rosa Militia SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.14 21:46:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:This basically makes the inferno expansion features completely worthless. You should think about the implications of this change on existing features, Wardecs are a iconic game mechanic and are being put second.
Members of a corporation that's under a wardec shouldn't be able to leave the corporation this easily....
they don't leave the war. they take it with them. That was something introduced about a year ago.
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Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY Extinction Level Event.
465
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:12:00 -
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We will have a POS or a SOV revamp Soon?
And can corp directors now kick without the 24h delays too? Please read these! > New POS system > New SOV system |
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Olaf4862
KnownUnknown
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:19:00 -
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Andski wrote:Sounds like the 24 hour wardec timer should be removed too!
Still need to give people a chance to respond to it... 24 hrs is fine but insta wardecs will just lead to massive amounts of greifing... and think of poor concord they cant do all the wardec paperwork THAT fast :) |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
656
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:47:00 -
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Upon more research we realized those technical restrictions no longer applied. So we removed this requirement from DUST... and EVE. Because why not.
Because of Wardecs and Awoxing, that's why. Please reconsider this change in EvE Online. R Tape loading error |
Utremi Fasolasi
The Jagged Edge Rebel Alliance of New Eden
225
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:53:00 -
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CCP Foxfour is best Foxfour! I was just asking someone about the 24 hour corp drop timer recently..
Did you do the Odyssey market category cleanup on Sisi too? |
Roime
Ten Thousand Years Shinjiketo
2818
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Posted - 2013.05.14 23:16:00 -
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Solar Rift wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:This basically makes the inferno expansion features completely worthless. You should think about the implications of this change on existing features, Wardecs are a iconic game mechanic and are being put second.
Members of a corporation that's under a wardec shouldn't be able to leave the corporation this easily.... they don't leave the war. they take it with them. That was something introduced about a year ago. -- Solar
That's corps leaving alliance in war. Pilots leaving a wardecced corp end up in an NPC corp, shedding the wardec now immediately.
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7825
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Posted - 2013.05.15 00:19:00 -
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Olaf4862 wrote:Still need to give people a chance to respond to it... 24 hrs is fine but insta wardecs will just lead to massive amounts of greifing... and think of poor concord they cant do all the wardec paperwork THAT fast :)
If you can drop corp to escape the consequences of whatever you did to attract a wardec, the wardeccers should not have to give you a solid day of advance warning to tear everything down and reform a corp instantly.
Thanks for removing PvP from hisec, CCP - even "consensual" PvP won't exist because one side will stop "consenting" the moment the spectre of defeat is in sight. mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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Ruze
Next Stage Initiative Trans-Stellar Industries
242
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Posted - 2013.05.15 02:34:00 -
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A character who drops a corp should carry the wardec on them, personally, whether they are in an NPC corp or not. Essentially, that war dec should belong to all members who are in the corp, no matter where they are. My input.
Being able to quit without a day's notice should work as well as kicking without a days notice. No dropping roles, just kick them. Kicking a corp member in space should be considered, but may not practically be possible. But 24hours? Just kick them. If you're driven to threaten others with harm or violence because of what they do in game, you can't separate fantasy from reality.-á That 'griefer/thief' is probably more sane than you are.-á How screwed up is that? |
Slug Hard
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:14:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Klingon Admiral wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Those of you unable to quit a corporation instantly, are you hitting the quit corporation button or are you applying to another corporation and having them hit the invite button? I am using the "Prepare to Leave Corporation" Button in the Corp Window. ... the what button... oh god I didn't even know that existed. BRB.
Since you're tweaking the Corp UI, any chance I can direct your attention to the issues here? |
bassie12bf1
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2013.05.15 06:40:00 -
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There still needs to be a solution to people with super carriers and titans that join/leave corp, since they can't just dock their ship up at stations it would require them to have multiple caracters that can fly the things. |
Sabriz Adoudel
AWOXalypse
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Posted - 2013.05.15 08:16:00 -
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I will miss the old 'give someone roles then ransom them until they can leave' trick, but it's not that profitable anyway AWOXalypse is coming! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2898431 Buy shares: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=226618 An enemy is a friend you stab in the front. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1834
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:50:00 -
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Solar Rift wrote:Question about Planetary Control from the EVE Side:
I know how to see who controls what from the Dust Client, however, in the EVE Client, I'm trying to see who owns what districts of planets in Dust. I've tried the following:
I've clicked the Sov Button of the system (no info on Corp control of districts there)
I've viewed a temperate planet in question in Planet mode (no options there either)
So - my question is, how do I see who controls what and corp assets should our dust character in the same corporation have control of such a corp asset.
I gotta be missing how to do this. Would someone point out how to do it?
-- Solar Rift
There is currently no way in EVE to see who controls the districts. This is something we plan on fixing, just it is a ways off right now. Game Designer | Team True Grit |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1834
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:50:00 -
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Lyrrashae wrote:It compels the question:
Did Fox get his(/her?) shoes back?
Yes, I did get my shoes back the same day they were taken. Game Designer | Team True Grit |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1834
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:51:00 -
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Panhead4411 wrote:Quote:As a member of a corporation you can now quit a corporation instantly without waiting the 24 hours after dropping roles...
|This corporation change also shipped on May 6th. Didn't see this in any patchnotes.....either it didn't get done or CCP is still having trouble communicating...this is why we bug you when you don't release patchnotes, b/c stuff like this gets snuck in all stealthy like....
As I stated earlier in this thread, this is on me. I failed to get the change into the patch notes. My sincere apologies. Game Designer | Team True Grit |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1834
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:52:00 -
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Alx Warlord wrote:We will have a POS or a SOV revamp Soon?
And can corp directors now kick without the 24h delays too?
I have no idea.
No. Game Designer | Team True Grit |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1834
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:52:00 -
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Slug Hard wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Klingon Admiral wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Those of you unable to quit a corporation instantly, are you hitting the quit corporation button or are you applying to another corporation and having them hit the invite button? I am using the "Prepare to Leave Corporation" Button in the Corp Window. ... the what button... oh god I didn't even know that existed. BRB. Since you're tweaking the Corp UI, any chance I can direct your attention to the issues here?
Never said we were tweaking the corp UI, that is on an EVE team to do. Game Designer | Team True Grit |
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Nirnaeth Ornoediad
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.05.15 16:01:00 -
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Do the bonuses to POS production and to POS fuel requirements apply to all POS's for the Corporation or Alliance, or only those POSes in the same Region?
In other words, will every single null-sec entity now care about what's going on in Molden Heath? Fix POSes.-á Every player should want one (even if all players can't have one). |
Zanzbar
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
130
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Posted - 2013.05.15 17:07:00 -
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Nirnaeth Ornoediad wrote:Do the bonuses to POS production and to POS fuel requirements apply to all POS's for the Corporation or Alliance, or only those POSes in the same Region?
In other words, will every single null-sec entity now care about what's going on in Molden Heath?
i beleive it was stated that only poses that are anchored to one of the moons in orbit around the planet on which a district is located can receive the bonus. remember its a testing bed for now and once its had its trial run it will open up to more regions and thw bonuses will be more useful
i wonder how much of an effect this will have on pos deployment stratagy, with temperate planets being at a premium until they enable more environments for dust combat. but then again om not sure if the bonuses are tempting enough to make a big deal out of it at this stage, i think is going to take sov influence to get those not involved in dust to really start to care |
YuuKnow
Terra-Formers
802
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Posted - 2013.05.15 17:44:00 -
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The insta-quits will make Eve's War Dec system even more impotent.
Caution about trying to change Eve game mechanics based off Dust514 feedback... what's good for one game is not necessarily good for the other...
If you can make the quit mechanics for Dust different from the Eve mechanics would probably be the best solution.
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Nirnaeth Ornoediad
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.05.15 17:49:00 -
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Zanzbar wrote:Nirnaeth Ornoediad wrote:Do the bonuses to POS production and to POS fuel requirements apply to all POS's for the Corporation or Alliance, or only those POSes in the same Region?
In other words, will every single null-sec entity now care about what's going on in Molden Heath? i beleive it was stated that only poses that are anchored to one of the moons in orbit around the planet on which a district is located can receive the bonus. remember its a testing bed for now and once its had its trial run it will open up to more regions and thw bonuses will be more useful i wonder how much of an effect this will have on pos deployment stratagy, with temperate planets being at a premium until they enable more environments for dust combat. but then again om not sure if the bonuses are tempting enough to make a big deal out of it at this stage, i think is going to take sov influence to get those not involved in dust to really start to care
Thank you. This makes a lot of sense. I like that this will have the effect of adding "terrain" to space, albeit limited to Temperate Planets in Molden Heath at the moment. Still, with all bonuses, margins will be great in Molden Heath while it remains the only Region open to Planetary Conquest...which may make it the wealthiest Region in New Eden, if only for a while.
Fix POSes.-á Every player should want one (even if all players can't have one). |
cpu939
Eternal Darkness. Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.05.15 20:11:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Alx Warlord wrote: And can corp directors now kick without the 24h delays too?
No.
ok, why can a member leave right away but as a leader of a corp i have to wait 24 hours to remove him, i could understand if at war but i'm sure you guys could code for that? |
Ricc Deckard
Trux Germani The Retirement Club
13
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Posted - 2013.05.16 07:01:00 -
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Applying to another corp did NOT work instantly for me. I am in stasis right now with four of my chars (directors and not).
I applied to the other corp. When trying to accept, the ceo of the new corp got the message that I still have roles. I dropped them and now the error says, that I am in a 24 hr stasis. So pretty much the same behavior as before :) |
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