You know you don't congratulate people when about 120 people lost there jobs.

You know you don't congratulate people when about 120 people lost there jobs.


EVE Online maker CCP has announced it will be reducing its staff of over 600 by roughly 20 percent as part of a "realignment" away from long-in-development MMO World of Darkness.

As a subscriber to this game since day one, and a tester since the beta days, Im glad that perhaps this game will continue to thrive and the refocus will bring about new gameplay we can once again be excited about.

mismanagement of the company

They lost their jobs because CCP was being run buy fools drunk on ego.

Congrats are in fact in order for getting them to change direction and showing them they cannot just abuse us.

But we know that this latest move was ill thought out in some aspects.

and it's taken you, what, 8 years playing this shockingly mismanaged, horrible, failing game to work out that the SAME senior staff are running the company that you subbed for 8 years ago?

And you call CCP management stupid?

They lost their jobs because CCP was being run buy fools drunk on ego.

Congrats are in fact in order for getting them to change direction and showing them they cannot just abuse us.

But we know that this latest move was ill thought out in some aspects.

They lost their jobs because CCP was being run buy fools drunk on ego.

and it's taken you, what, 8 years playing this shockingly mismanaged, horrible, failing game to work out that the SAME senior staff are running the company that you subbed for 8 years ago?

And you call CCP management stupid?

As long as you're allowed to abuse THEM yeah?

**** me.....I rarely get mad but you are REALLY starting to prove how fn stupid you really can be

Actually it is about the attitude of the community on this forum.
People are happy about others losing there jobs.
Sorry but that is pathetic, and sad and you all talk about losing respect for CCP well after some of the posts I have seen today.
It is the community doesn't deserve a thread of respect.

They lost their jobs because CCP was being run buy fools drunk on ego.

Congrats are in fact in order for getting them to change direction and showing them they cannot just abuse us.

But we know that this latest move was ill thought out in some aspects.

this just shows that eve is really real.

mess up our pixels = emo rage = shoot statue = unsub = wtf = RL consequences

sad but true

this ^^^

Said similar earlier.

"Eve is only a game".

So how come the sheeplike actions of hotheads IN game cause such real reactions OUT of game.

Must be a few Eve dicks feeling real proud right now...

Look what "we" did.... woot.

Don't be ridiculous. Hilmar admitted it was mainly his fault in his devblog. This is all the result of what Hilmar (and whoever supported him in the company) did.

The players just behaved rationally in a) expressing their displeasure at Hilmar's direction, and b) voting with their feet, in the only way he would understand (as he himself stated in the leaked email).

You should feel ******* proud that you're playing in a game with other players who aren't such addicted twats that they'll swallow anything developers throw at them (which is what Hilmar expected, as implied in his leaked email).

You should feel ******* proud that you're playing in a game with other players who aren't such addicted twats that they'll swallow anything developers throw at them (which is what Hilmar expected, as implied in his leaked email).

While it's sad 120 people lost their jobs, it was obvious CCP was overextended.

The truth is that Dust could fail, and if it does fail, will it bankrupt CCP? If CCP was developing WoD, Eve, and Dust at the same time, one of the projects nosediving could put the other 2 in serious jeopardy. I'm happy that CCP is now only (mainly) focusing on a single side project.

Congratulations to the community for waking up CCP and making the CEO recognize that he/they were headed down the wrong path. Unfortunately, it hit their wallets and they saw subcribers drop so they started sacking people to narrow the gap.

Don't be ridiculous. Hilmar admitted it was mainly his fault in his devblog.

Actually it is about the attitude of the community on this forum.
People are happy about others losing there jobs.
Sorry but that is pathetic, and sad and you all talk about losing respect for CCP well after some of the posts I have seen today.
It is the community doesn't deserve a thread of respect.

Congratulations to the community for waking up CCP and making the CEO recognize that he/they were headed down the wrong path. Unfortunately, it is not until it hits their wallets and they see subcribers drop that they start paying attention. Perhaps they believed, wrongly, that the protesters, the people cancelling accounts, the outrage, and the raging forums posts would eventually dissipate and dissapear. That account subscriptions would have remained stable or dip slightly, and then start to grow again. That was not the case.

So you crazy guys shooting at a statue in Jita for weeks, I call you the Occupy CCP guys!

As a subscriber to this game since day one, and a tester since the beta days, Im glad that perhaps this game will continue to thrive and the refocus will bring about new gameplay we can once again be excited about.

Good luck to us all.

CCP was not always mismanaged. They were able to inspire people to play and stay since 2003. They lost their way, people are allowed to make mistakes, and we hope they learn their lesson. ...

Don't be ridiculous. Hilmar admitted it was mainly his fault in his devblog. This is all the result of what Hilmar (and whoever supported him in the company) did.

The players just behaved rationally in a) expressing their displeasure at Hilmar's direction, and b) voting with their feet, in the only way he would understand (as he himself stated in the leaked email).

You should feel ******* proud that you're playing in a game with other players who aren't such addicted twats that they'll swallow anything developers throw at them (which is what Hilmar expected, as implied in his leaked email).

This is a privately owned company. We are stuck with the head guys and there is nothing we can do other than to vote with our money. I'm not personally happy that anyone lost their job. Unfortunately, people will suffer real life consequenses when they make mistakes with their virtual world.

this just shows that eve is really real.

mess up our pixels = emo rage = shoot statue = unsub = wtf = RL consequences

sad but true

REALLY milk EVE to the fullest potential until it's only a shadow of its former self.

Telling them what product we want to buy is not abusing them.

Its how business works mate.

They are supposed to meet the demand. Not tell us what they want to sell us and we have to like it.

Apple have made a fortune from telling people what they want to sell and expecting people to like it, and they never lost their Jobs.. oh, wait, they did.

Apple is not CCP

The apple fan base is not the CCP fan base. THANK GOD FOR THAT.


Comparing Apple to Internet Spaceships.

You know you don't congratulate people when about 120 people lost there jobs.[/url]

Anyone with a sense of humor may have realised that it was actually a "Steve Jobs is dead joke", thinly disguised as an Apple / CCP comparison.

And this is new on this community how? If you really played EVE you should know what to expect out of this place, being shocked at the callousness, trollage, flaming and other shenanigans that are rampant here since DAY 1 you should take it as "usual business".

Does that make it more or less wrong? Not the point, if we , or at least I wanted a moral busybody on a forum I would go post on another kind of forums more appropriate to such endeavors. Your shocked answer only reveals naivete and to be honest, I find it insulting.

OP was just glad that the masses spoke with the only pitchfork at their disposal, WALLETS. I am proud to have been one of the many voices during the protest and to have spread dissent across all kinds of media at my disposal. A campaing I carried to extreme extents and for which I am proud, for many reasons not worth posting here.

People lost Jobs, yes, evil and sad, but you should be appaled is at how these lost Job could have been kept if CCP itself decided to have taken a more IN TOUCH path with their game. Community Reps that got sacked are the direct result of the upper managements FAILURES. No one here is happy to have seen them go. I for one will miss them a lot, yet you pretending to keep or impose a "only you can perceive" sense of propriety here is so misguided to be honest I'm appalled by you.

But all in all, this is eve, HTFU.

Rambling crazy talk.

More like Incarna was the final straw that broke the camels back after years of Customers holding their tongues and waiting patiently for CCP to improve and make it better.

The difference was that this time there was a concerted effort by [Goonies and CSM] to whip the sheep into a frenzy about it. Via a number of methods not restricted to these forums, our ever swelling and more skillful community maggots were able to whip a relatively significant percentage of the EVE community into a mindless fury.

Because the game was unplayable for weeks due to repeated crashes again.

Oh wait, it wasn't.

Because the introduction of the NeX store for vanity items was radically more detrimental to the game than the introduction of PLEX.

Oh wait, it wasn't.

The list goes on and on.

While there were serious issues with Incarna's release, no denying it, those issue pale in comparison to past issues when looked at objectively and calmly.

That's the problem, mobs don't tend to do that. Mobs are easily led by those with malicious intent who are willing to chant "we won't take it any more" long enough and loud enough (even when they laugh and tell you to your face that manipulating you is EXACTLY what they are doing).

Go look carefully at some of the major threads generated at that time. If you are very, very patient you'll find exactly what I am referring to.