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Bloody Wench
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Posted - 2013.05.18 13:50:00 -
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If I were to sell the character, am I obliged to tell the buyer that the character already has a strike against it?
If I buy a character that already has a strike against it, how will I know?
Is it the character that has the strike or the account?
If it's the character can I clean the character by moving it to a fresh account?
If it's the Account can I clean the account by moving the characters on it to a fresh account?
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Joxxy
Vrane Club
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Posted - 2013.05.18 13:52:00 -
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AFAIK - ban is connected to account. |

Thebriwan
LUX Uls Xystus
117
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Posted - 2013.05.18 13:53:00 -
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You should ask CCP per petition not this forum. |

Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.18 13:55:00 -
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It is the account that gets the strikes not the character. Not sure about the rest, but some type bans I hear not sure on this either they may ban all accounts associated with the same E-mail address if one of them is used for certain things and the others are not. |

Bloody Wench
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Posted - 2013.05.18 13:55:00 -
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Thebriwan wrote:You should ask CCP per petition not this forum.
Would save them a lot of petition time if they just answered it in public. Support a Hi Resolution Texture Pack |

J'Poll
Kings of the Underground Side Effect.
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Posted - 2013.05.18 13:56:00 -
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<3 the AP-0 ban tears all over the forum now.
When a WoW player leaves to return to WoW, the avg. IQ of both games rises. Request to CCP: Please patch stupidity out of the game for Winter 2013. Professional Forum Thread locker. |

Bloody Wench
355
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Posted - 2013.05.18 14:00:00 -
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Tuttomenui II wrote:It is the account that gets the strikes not the character. Not sure about the rest, but some type bans I hear not sure on this either they may ban all accounts associated with the same E-mail address if one of them is used for certain things and the others are not.
On the day in question, I used AP0 on 2 different accounts, one was reprimanded, the other not. Both were used for about the same length of time. 18-20 jumps. All accounts are properly registered to one person on one email. So at least for this, on this occasion, they didn't go hog wild and shitcan the whole lot. Which would have sucked. Lesson learnt.
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Bloody Wench
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Posted - 2013.05.18 14:00:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:<3 the AP-0 ban tears all over the forum now.
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Jarod Garamonde
Action Bastards
171
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Posted - 2013.05.18 14:05:00 -
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before this gets locked.... allow me to laugh at you, OP "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II |

Lexmana
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Posted - 2013.05.18 14:05:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:Tuttomenui II wrote:It is the account that gets the strikes not the character. Not sure about the rest, but some type bans I hear not sure on this either they may ban all accounts associated with the same E-mail address if one of them is used for certain things and the others are not. On the day in question, I used AP0 on 2 different accounts, one was reprimanded, the other not. Both were used for about the same length of time. 18-20 jumps. All accounts are properly registered to one person on one email. So at least for this, on this occasion, they didn't go hog wild and shitcan the whole lot. Which would have sucked. Lesson learnt. If you learned your lesson it doesn't matter if this was a first strike or not. Right? |
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Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
321
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Posted - 2013.05.18 14:06:00 -
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For botting, once you get a strike, you can no longer sell characters on that account - which means that it is impossible to buy characters that have a strike.
This probably applies to client modification bans as a rule, but I'm not 100% sure. Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Sometimes when I post, I look at my sig and wish that I'd follow my own god damned advice. |

Bloody Wench
355
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Posted - 2013.05.18 14:08:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:Bloody Wench wrote:Tuttomenui II wrote:It is the account that gets the strikes not the character. Not sure about the rest, but some type bans I hear not sure on this either they may ban all accounts associated with the same E-mail address if one of them is used for certain things and the others are not. On the day in question, I used AP0 on 2 different accounts, one was reprimanded, the other not. Both were used for about the same length of time. 18-20 jumps. All accounts are properly registered to one person on one email. So at least for this, on this occasion, they didn't go hog wild and shitcan the whole lot. Which would have sucked. Lesson learnt. If you learned your lesson it doesn't matter if this was a first strike or not. Right?
Never say never mate.
Grey Azorria wrote:For botting, once you get a strike, you can no longer sell characters on that account - which means that it is impossible to buy characters that have a strike.
This probably applies to client modification bans as a rule, but I'm not 100% sure.
For real? Is that written somewhere? Support a Hi Resolution Texture Pack |

Othran
Route One
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Posted - 2013.05.18 14:15:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:For real? Is that written somewhere?
Yes but I can't remember where . CCP changed the policy because (as predicted by anyone with a clue) people abused the character bazaar to get rid of characters with one strike.
Basically all your accounts are now unable to transfer characters - that's my recollection of the change.
At least you didn't get instantly permabanned on all accounts which is what would happen now for client modification. |

Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
321
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Posted - 2013.05.18 14:16:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:Grey Azorria wrote:For botting, once you get a strike, you can no longer sell characters on that account - which means that it is impossible to buy characters that have a strike.
This probably applies to client modification bans as a rule, but I'm not 100% sure. For real? Is that written somewhere? Yep, old Team Security devblog - and It looks like it applies to everyone who gets banned for something or another. Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Sometimes when I post, I look at my sig and wish that I'd follow my own god damned advice. |

Tlat Ij
Hedion University Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2013.05.18 14:20:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:Tuttomenui II wrote:It is the account that gets the strikes not the character. Not sure about the rest, but some type bans I hear not sure on this either they may ban all accounts associated with the same E-mail address if one of them is used for certain things and the others are not. On the day in question, I used AP0 on 2 different accounts, one was reprimanded, the other not. Both were used for about the same length of time. 18-20 jumps. All accounts are properly registered to one person on one email. So at least for this, on this occasion, they didn't go hog wild and shitcan the whole lot. Which would have sucked. Lesson learnt. If you get permabanned, then CCP will ban all of your accounts. You should probably stop breaking the EULA/TOS before that happens. |

Prince Kobol
746
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Posted - 2013.05.18 14:38:00 -
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I am begging the ISD not to lock this thread as the OP butthurt for being caught cheating and being lowest of the low is priceless :) |

Bloody Wench
355
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Posted - 2013.05.18 14:42:00 -
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Tuttomenui II wrote: If you get permabanned, then CCP will ban all of your accounts. You should probably stop breaking the EULA/TOS before that happens.
I appreciate your concern and will evaluate my future decisions on a case by case basis. I knew what I was doing and the consequences involved.
While my cheating ways really haven't changed that much since I was 16, I've been getting caught lately.
I must getting old and slow.
UO - Never Banned SWG - Never Banned WOW - Never Banned
SWTOR -Banned (couple of times) PS2 - Banned (many many times)
Now this.
Maybe I dodged a bullet, and need to have a good long hard look at myself.
Prince Kobol wrote:I am begging the ISD not to lock this thread as the OP butthurt for being caught cheating and being lowest of the low is priceless :)
Not sure you understand the term. My arse is fine thanks. Support a Hi Resolution Texture Pack |

Gealbhan
191
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Posted - 2013.05.18 14:44:00 -
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Shoulda been perma banned, I've jettisoned used cargo containers that have more worth than you bots and hackers.  |

Bloody Wench
355
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Posted - 2013.05.18 14:46:00 -
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Grey Azorria wrote:Bloody Wench wrote:Grey Azorria wrote:For botting, once you get a strike, you can no longer sell characters on that account - which means that it is impossible to buy characters that have a strike.
This probably applies to client modification bans as a rule, but I'm not 100% sure. For real? Is that written somewhere? Yep, old Team Security devblog - and It looks like it applies to everyone who gets banned for something or another.
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.18 14:55:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3047915#post3047915
You know I am sure this applies to the question asked here as well. |
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Jarod Garamonde
Action Bastards
171
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Posted - 2013.05.18 14:58:00 -
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So, basically, what I have gathered from this thread is that the tempban didn't do OP any good, and he/she fully intends to cheat, again and/or probably already is. Basically said "f**k the EULA, f**k CCP, and f**k the rest of the players... I'll clientmod if I damn well please"
Permaban him/her, now, CCP.... please? "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II |

Bloody Wench
355
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:03:00 -
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I've been on the wagon for 30 days.
Everyone has to start somewhere on the road to reformation. Support a Hi Resolution Texture Pack |

J'Poll
Kings of the Underground Side Effect.
2189
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:09:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:Tuttomenui II wrote:It is the account that gets the strikes not the character. Not sure about the rest, but some type bans I hear not sure on this either they may ban all accounts associated with the same E-mail address if one of them is used for certain things and the others are not. On the day in question, I used AP0 on 2 different accounts, one was reprimanded, the other not. Both were used for about the same length of time. 18-20 jumps. All accounts are properly registered to one person on one email. So at least for this, on this occasion, they didn't go hog wild and shitcan the whole lot. Which would have sucked. Lesson learnt.
So they should have banned both your accounts.
What in the world were you thinking that made it allowed.
Nobody will buy this character anyway with such post history....so good luck. When a WoW player leaves to return to WoW, the avg. IQ of both games rises. Request to CCP: Please patch stupidity out of the game for Winter 2013. Professional Forum Thread locker. |

Jarod Garamonde
Action Bastards
171
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:10:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:I've been on the wagon for 30 days.
Everyone has to start somewhere on the road to reformation.
I said it in the other thread.... people like you are the reason I had to go and download all the trainers and hacks, back when Diablo, Command and Conquer, Unreal Tournament, and MechCommander were still popular, online. "Only cheat defensively", we used to say. Turning on all of those external cheat programs, just to keep someone from screwing with the game, was annoying. Nowdays, developers have watchdog programs that make it so people like me don't have to break the rules to hold back people like you.
Quit cheating, for good, or go back to singleplayer games. It's not that hard a concept. "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II |

Vaihto Ehto
17
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:13:00 -
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Why werent these people banned for good, btw? Why would you not use an alt to post on the forums? |

Felicity Love
STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate
615
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:22:00 -
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... waits for CCP to stop wasting time and resources, and simply accept the fact that the only solution is the "nuclear solution"... First Offense = Permaban.
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

Bloody Wench
355
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:24:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Bloody Wench wrote:I've been on the wagon for 30 days.
Everyone has to start somewhere on the road to reformation. I said it in the other thread.... people like you are the reason I had to go and download all the trainers and hacks, back when Diablo, Command and Conquer, Unreal Tournament, and MechCommander were still popular, online. "Only cheat defensively", we used to say. Turning on all of those external cheat programs, just to keep someone from screwing with the game, was annoying. Nowdays, developers have watchdog programs that make it so people like me don't have to break the rules to hold back people like you. Quit cheating, for good, or go back to singleplayer games. It's not that hard a concept.
Was it fun though in those other games? Doing the things you did 'defensively'?
AP0 wasn't for lolz, it was because the mechanism and game play sucked, and sucked so much that I was prepared to 'bend' the rules a little to not have to do it. I like EVE, if I didn't I wouldn't still be here after 7 years, or I'd be doing much much worse things in order to force the issue, and get myself inextricably banned for eternity.
Planetside 2 however was for the jollies. Holy hell I tell you, instagibbing aircraft was pissfunny and never got old. Some of the best battles was against other 'hackers' using the same stuff I was, real contest of wills. What did get old was the hoops you had to jump through to bypass their ban methods. Eventually I just stopped doing it.
Eve has much bigger fish to fry in the hacks/cheats/RMT arena than some silly 15000 range mod. AP0 was just for fanfest, like Unholy Rage. It's no coincidence it always happens right before fanfest. Big PR exercise to placate the masses and give the impression that something is being done. Support a Hi Resolution Texture Pack |

Prince Kobol
746
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:30:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Bloody Wench wrote:I've been on the wagon for 30 days.
Everyone has to start somewhere on the road to reformation. I said it in the other thread.... people like you are the reason I had to go and download all the trainers and hacks, back when Diablo, Command and Conquer, Unreal Tournament, and MechCommander were still popular, online. "Only cheat defensively", we used to say. Turning on all of those external cheat programs, just to keep someone from screwing with the game, was annoying. Nowdays, developers have watchdog programs that make it so people like me don't have to break the rules to hold back people like you. Quit cheating, for good, or go back to singleplayer games. It's not that hard a concept. Was it fun though in those other games? Doing the things you did 'defensively'? AP0 wasn't for lolz, it was because the mechanism and game play sucked, and sucked so much that I was prepared to 'bend' the rules a little to not have to do it. I like EVE, if I didn't I wouldn't still be here after 7 years, or I'd be doing much much worse things in order to force the issue, and get myself inextricably banned for eternity. Planetside 2 however was for the jollies. Holy hell I tell you, instagibbing aircraft was pissfunny and never got old. Some of the best battles were against other 'hackers' using the same stuff I was, real contest of wills. What did get old was the hoops you had to jump through to bypass their ban methods. Eventually I just stopped doing it. Eve has much bigger fish to fry in the hacks/cheats/RMT arena than some silly 15000 range mod. AP0 was just for fanfest, like Unholy Rage. It's no coincidence it always happens right before fanfest. Big PR exercise to placate the masses and give the impression that something is being done.
Yep... butthurt :)
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Jarod Garamonde
Action Bastards
172
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:30:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Bloody Wench wrote:I've been on the wagon for 30 days.
Everyone has to start somewhere on the road to reformation. I said it in the other thread.... people like you are the reason I had to go and download all the trainers and hacks, back when Diablo, Command and Conquer, Unreal Tournament, and MechCommander were still popular, online. "Only cheat defensively", we used to say. Turning on all of those external cheat programs, just to keep someone from screwing with the game, was annoying. Nowdays, developers have watchdog programs that make it so people like me don't have to break the rules to hold back people like you. Quit cheating, for good, or go back to singleplayer games. It's not that hard a concept. Was it fun though in those other games? Doing the things you did 'defensively'? AP0 wasn't for lolz, it was because the mechanism and game play sucked, and sucked so much that I was prepared to 'bend' the rules a little to not have to do it. I like EVE, if I didn't I wouldn't still be here after 7 years, or I'd be doing much much worse things in order to force the issue, and get myself inextricably banned for eternity. Planetside 2 however was for the jollies. Holy hell I tell you, instagibbing aircraft was pissfunny and never got old. Some of the best battles was against other 'hackers' using the same stuff I was, real contest of wills. What did get old was the hoops you had to jump through to bypass their ban methods. Eventually I just stopped doing it. Eve has much bigger fish to fry in the hacks/cheats/RMT arena than some silly 15000 range mod. AP0 was just for fanfest, like Unholy Rage. It's no coincidence it always happens right before fanfest. Big PR exercise to placate the masses and give the impression that something is being done.
No, it wasn't fun. The "easy button" is never fun, in games, or in real life. That's why I prefer to solo-hunt, when I PvP... I enjoy the game a lot more when I come out of a fight in hull, then in a 25-man gang where I helped kill 5 ships, and never got redboxed. "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II |

Bloody Wench
355
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:32:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:... waits for CCP to stop wasting time and resources, and simply accept the fact that the only solution is the "nuclear solution"... First Offense = Permaban.
I totally agree. Not just the one account either, every account attached to it. Also anyone running on a VM or through a proxy.
Don't care what the legitimate reasons are for proxy or VM, want to play EVE, don't do it. Support a Hi Resolution Texture Pack |
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