You should ask CCP per petition not this forum.

It is the account that gets the strikes not the character. Not sure about the rest, but some type bans I hear not sure on this either they may ban all accounts associated with the same E-mail address if one of them is used for certain things and the others are not.

<3 the AP-0 ban tears all over the forum now.

On the day in question, I used AP0 on 2 different accounts, one was reprimanded, the other not. Both were used for about the same length of time. 18-20 jumps. All accounts are properly registered to one person on one email. So at least for this, on this occasion, they didn't go hog wild and shitcan the whole lot. Which would have sucked. Lesson learnt.

If you learned your lesson it doesn't matter if this was a first strike or not. Right?

For botting, once you get a strike, you can no longer sell characters on that account - which means that it is impossible to buy characters that have a strike.

This probably applies to client modification bans as a rule, but I'm not 100% sure.

For real? Is that written somewhere?

For real? Is that written somewhere?

On the day in question, I used AP0 on 2 different accounts, one was reprimanded, the other not. Both were used for about the same length of time. 18-20 jumps. All accounts are properly registered to one person on one email. So at least for this, on this occasion, they didn't go hog wild and shitcan the whole lot. Which would have sucked. Lesson learnt.

If you get permabanned, then CCP will ban all of your accounts. You should probably stop breaking the EULA/TOS before that happens.

I am begging the ISD not to lock this thread as the OP butthurt for being caught cheating and being lowest of the low is priceless :)

Yep, old Team Security devblog - and It looks like it applies to everyone who gets banned for something or another.

On the day in question, I used AP0 on 2 different accounts, one was reprimanded, the other not. Both were used for about the same length of time. 18-20 jumps. All accounts are properly registered to one person on one email. So at least for this, on this occasion, they didn't go hog wild and shitcan the whole lot. Which would have sucked. Lesson learnt.

I've been on the wagon for 30 days.

Everyone has to start somewhere on the road to reformation.

I said it in the other thread.... people like you are the reason I had to go and download all the trainers and hacks, back when Diablo, Command and Conquer, Unreal Tournament, and MechCommander were still popular, online. "Only cheat defensively", we used to say. Turning on all of those external cheat programs, just to keep someone from screwing with the game, was annoying.
Nowdays, developers have watchdog programs that make it so people like me don't have to break the rules to hold back people like you.

Quit cheating, for good, or go back to singleplayer games. It's not that hard a concept.

Was it fun though in those other games? Doing the things you did 'defensively'?

AP0 wasn't for lolz, it was because the mechanism and game play sucked, and sucked so much that I was prepared to 'bend' the rules a little to not have to do it. I like EVE, if I didn't I wouldn't still be here after 7 years, or I'd be doing much much worse things in order to force the issue, and get myself inextricably banned for eternity.

Planetside 2 however was for the jollies. Holy hell I tell you, instagibbing aircraft was pissfunny and never got old. Some of the best battles were against other 'hackers' using the same stuff I was, real contest of wills. What did get old was the hoops you had to jump through to bypass their ban methods. Eventually I just stopped doing it.

Eve has much bigger fish to fry in the hacks/cheats/RMT arena than some silly 15000 range mod. AP0 was just for fanfest, like Unholy Rage. It's no coincidence it always happens right before fanfest. Big PR exercise to placate the masses and give the impression that something is being done.

Was it fun though in those other games? Doing the things you did 'defensively'?

AP0 wasn't for lolz, it was because the mechanism and game play sucked, and sucked so much that I was prepared to 'bend' the rules a little to not have to do it. I like EVE, if I didn't I wouldn't still be here after 7 years, or I'd be doing much much worse things in order to force the issue, and get myself inextricably banned for eternity.

Planetside 2 however was for the jollies. Holy hell I tell you, instagibbing aircraft was pissfunny and never got old. Some of the best battles was against other 'hackers' using the same stuff I was, real contest of wills. What did get old was the hoops you had to jump through to bypass their ban methods. Eventually I just stopped doing it.

Eve has much bigger fish to fry in the hacks/cheats/RMT arena than some silly 15000 range mod. AP0 was just for fanfest, like Unholy Rage. It's no coincidence it always happens right before fanfest. Big PR exercise to placate the masses and give the impression that something is being done.

... waits for CCP to stop wasting time and resources, and simply accept the fact that the only solution is the "nuclear solution"... First Offense = Permaban.

No, it wasn't fun. The "easy button" is never fun, in games, or in real life.

Then we'll just have to disagree. People can disagree, it's ok.
I enjoy riding way too fast on public roads, and I can't tell you the amount of grief I get about that from friends and family.
Ultimately it's my choice and I'll live with, or die by, the outcomes.
Not everyone sees things the same way. We can't always help what we enjoy.

I enjoy riding way too fast on public roads, and I can't tell you the amount of grief I get about that from friends and family.
Ultimately it's my choice and I'll live with, or die by, the outcomes.

Did I miss something last night? AP0? Guessing a way to bypass the 15km or so autopilot travel distance before a warp?

The OP felt that he and 2300 others, are exempt to the limitations put in place by the game developers. As a result, he and others were given 30 day suspensions to show them the error of their ways.

The strike isn't against the character, it's against an "individual"(the owner of the account) as we can see it in our system.

If you sell the character, the owner does not inherit the strike. If you create a new account the strike does not transfer directly, but a GM will notice that you have an account which has done naughty things, and they will take that into account.

My suggestion would be to stay on the right side of the law from now on, and you'll be fine. An AP0 infraction is serious, mind you.

If you have any further or specific questions, I my recommendation will be to file a petition, and a GM can help you further

Cheers BigEars.

Oh and lift the bans? Since it's the 18th and all. It's your name on the ticket. I gotz me some autopiloting to do.

AP0 was just for fanfest, like Unholy Rage. It's no coincidence it always happens right before fanfest. Big PR exercise to placate the masses and give the impression that something is being done.

Oh and lift the bans? Since it's the 18th and all. It's your name on the ticket. I gotz me some autopiloting to do.

The strike isn't against the character, it's against an "individual"(the owner of the account) as we can see it in our system.

If you sell the character, the owner does not inherit the strike. If you create a new account the strike does not transfer directly, but a GM will notice that you have an account which has done naughty things, and they will take that into account.

My suggestion would be to stay on the right side of the law from now on, and you'll be fine. An AP0 infraction is serious, mind you.

If you have any further or specific questions, I my recommendation will be to file a petition, and a GM can help you further

Odd that the OP was not perma-banned, would of considered this an ideal candidate but I guess CCP was lenient due to account age maybe? I dunno.

The strike isn't against the character, it's against an "individual"(the owner of the account) as we can see it in our system.

If you sell the character, the owner does not inherit the strike. If you create a new account the strike does not transfer directly, but a GM will notice that you have an account which has done naughty things, and they will take that into account.

My suggestion would be to stay on the right side of the law from now on, and you'll be fine. An AP0 infraction is serious, mind you.

If you have any further or specific questions, I my recommendation will be to file a petition, and a GM can help you further

how can you tell i am me?

credit card info?

ip

email?

The sunglasses made that post all the more awesome

Also when you permaban his account can you hand me all his stuff

I get it.. Despite all the "selective enforcement" years ago with the wt0 hack it was technically against the Eula... We get it, the 30 day ban was warranted- maybe an official statement or warning first- but that is neither here nor there. The problem I have is suspending game service, while still charging someone for it.. I used the aphack on one of my characters while the other five clients were open so they all got banned.. I was wrong and have learned the error of my ways... But paying $90 for thirty days of not bein able to play isn't right.. The training time is forever lost, but the right thing to do would be the game time being credited to the banned accounts...

I get it.. Despite all the "selective enforcement" years ago with the wt0 hack it was technically against the Eula... We get it, the 30 day ban was warranted- maybe an official statement or warning first- but that is neither here nor there. The problem I have is suspending game service, while still charging someone for it.. I used the aphack on one of my characters while the other five clients were open so they all got banned.. I was wrong and have learned the error of my ways... But paying $90 for thirty days of not bein able to play isn't right.. The training time is forever lost, but the right thing to do would be the game time being credited to the banned accounts...

FIXT

I get it.. Despite all the "selective enforcement" years ago with the wt0 hack it was technically against the Eula... We get it, the 30 day ban was warranted- maybe an official statement or warning first- but that is neither here nor there. The problem I have is suspending game service, while still charging someone for it.. I used the aphack on one of my characters while the other five clients were open so they all got banned.. I was wrong and have learned the error of my ways... But paying $90 for thirty days of not bein able to play isn't right.. The training time is forever lost, but the right thing to do would be the game time being credited to the banned accounts...

Really hope this topic is being considered as evidence, because the OP looks anything but contrite - making excuses, asking how much trouble they'd get in if they did it again, asking if there's a way to remove the black mark...

The crap you admit to doing ruins games and the only reason CCP should give you any leeway is in case you learn your lesson - and given you've been repeatedly banned from many games for cheating and intentionally ruining the game experience of honest players, you're not going to learn and you should be asked to leave ne'er to return.

I've done my time, paid my penance. How long are you going to persecute after the criminal has repaid their debt to society?

I was punished as CCP saw fit.
I've served that time.

If you don't think that punishment was severe enough perhaps you can write to your senator.
Maybe I should be put on some no fly list, or offender register so I can never get another job.
Maybe men in balaklava should storm my computer room with automatic weapons and ship me off to Gitmo without trial.

I'm not going to indulge you further.
Done my time, account is back up and running, got the answers I was looking for, and I'm off about my business.

Cheers all was fun.

I get it.. Despite all the "selective enforcement" years ago with the wt0 hack it was technically against the Eula... We get it, the 30 day ban was warranted- maybe an official statement or warning first- but that is neither here nor there. The problem I have is suspending game service, while still charging someone for it.. I used the aphack on one of my characters while the other five clients were open so they all got banned.. I was wrong and have learned the error of my ways... But paying $90 for thirty days of not bein able to play isn't right.. The training time is forever lost, but the right thing to do would be the game time being credited to the banned accounts...

Did these bans not come with a "no-transfer" character flag? You seem to imply they didn't get it.

You're correct. They didn't.

Not sure you understand the term. My arse is fine thanks.

You're correct. They didn't.

I appreciate your concern and will evaluate my future decisions on a case by case basis. I knew what I was doing and the consequences involved.


While my cheating ways really haven't changed that much since I was 16, I've been getting caught lately.

I must be getting old and slow.

UO - Never Banned
SWG - Never Banned
WOW - Never Banned

SWTOR -Banned (couple of times)
PS2 - Banned (many many times)

Now this.

Maybe I dodged a bullet, and need to have a good long hard look at myself.









Not sure you understand the term. My arse is fine thanks.

When did the policy change?

Last I heard if you got a warning or temp ban then the accounts were locked down so characters couldn't be transferred.

I obviously missed something.....

Can those of us who don't cheat and like to believe that the wrath of CCP is as harsh as Guard likes to claim have an explanation as to why not? Surely you want your deterrent to be strong? Seems to me like these cheaters got away scot-free. Makes me almost want to try it...

But will you ban people using the AP100 exploit?

That is only true for our bot detection systems. In this case, given that the accounts that we could tell did other bad stuff were permanently banned, we did not have concerns about people moving characters to avoid "strikes" as we did with our war on bots.

That could have been a mistake. Who knows. But it was decided not to apply that restriction, because we didn't see a good reason to do so.

Can those of us who don't cheat and like to believe that the wrath of CCP is as harsh as Guard likes to claim have an explanation as to why not? Surely you want your deterrent to be strong? Seems to me like these cheaters got away scot-free. Makes me almost want to try it...

so you're one of THOSE assholes who literally cannot play a game without cheats? Please, by all means, pick up a knife, and jam it into your jugular.

Given that in future you will be perma banning people for this its a bit of a moot point. Although I too would have liked to have seen them locked down.

I've been on the wagon for 30 days.

Your.

Condemn someone for using cheats in a videogame if it's that important to you, but to will them to commit suicide in real life is just disgusting. I suggest you get a grip on life.

be smart: deal with the horrors of empire hauling by paying pubbies literally less than a cent's worth of isk per jump