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Bloody Wench
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:55:00 -
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Kusanagi Kasuga wrote:Really hope this topic is being considered as evidence, because the OP looks anything but contrite - making excuses, asking how much trouble they'd get in if they did it again, asking if there's a way to remove the black mark...
The crap you admit to doing ruins games and the only reason CCP should give you any leeway is in case you learn your lesson - and given you've been repeatedly banned from many games for cheating and intentionally ruining the game experience of honest players, you're not going to learn and you should be asked to leave ne'er to return.
I've done my time, paid my penance. How long are you going to persecute after the criminal has repaid their debt to society?
I was punished as CCP saw fit. I've served that time.
If you don't think that punishment was severe enough perhaps you can write to your senator. Maybe I should be put on some no fly list, or offender register so I can never get another job. Maybe men in balaklava should storm my computer room with automatic weapons and ship me off to Gitmo without trial.
I'm not going to indulge you further. Done my time, account is back up and running, got the answers I was looking for, and I'm off about my business.
Cheers all was fun.
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baltec1
Bat Country
6499
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Posted - 2013.05.19 15:07:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:
I've done my time, paid my penance. How long are you going to persecute after the criminal has repaid their debt to society?
I was punished as CCP saw fit. I've served that time.
If you don't think that punishment was severe enough perhaps you can write to your senator. Maybe I should be put on some no fly list, or offender register so I can never get another job. Maybe men in balaklava should storm my computer room with automatic weapons and ship me off to Gitmo without trial.
I'm not going to indulge you further. Done my time, account is back up and running, got the answers I was looking for, and I'm off about my business.
Cheers all was fun.
As you can tell, one of the few things that unites everyone around here is an intolerance of cheating scum. Everyone gets a second chance unless you are RMT scum but blow that and we will show no mercy and will support CCP fully in showing even less. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
8289
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Posted - 2013.05.19 15:10:00 -
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Ecalos wrote:I get it.. Despite all the "selective enforcement" years ago with the wt0 hack it was technically against the Eula... We get it, the 30 day ban was warranted- maybe an official statement or warning first- but that is neither here nor there. The problem I have is suspending game service, while still charging someone for it.. I used the aphack on one of my characters while the other five clients were open so they all got banned.. I was wrong and have learned the error of my ways... But paying $90 for thirty days of not bein able to play isn't right.. The training time is forever lost, but the right thing to do would be the game time being credited to the banned accounts... Why should CCP credit paid for gametime to a player that has been banned for breaking the EULA? Consider it a fine or penalty for being a cheat.
CCP make it very clear that cheating will not be tolerated, your use of the AP to zero exploit, which I believe requires the injection of code and is therefore client modification, should really have been a permaban offence. Your actions in Eve have consequences, if you can't stomach that then this is not the game you are looking for. Personally I think that the actions taken by CCP are pretty lenient. A war hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
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CCP Stillman
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:19:00 -
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I will remind all of you that the 30 day bans for the autopilot to zero hack was a one-off thing. Anybody caught doing that now gets a permanent ban right off the bat. Just a random dude in Team Security. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2188

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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:48:00 -
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I have removed an off topic post. Please keep it on topic and civil. Thank you. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
802
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:18:00 -
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Did these bans not come with a "no-transfer" character flag? You seem to imply they didn't get it. |
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CCP Stillman
C C P C C P Alliance
540

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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:21:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:Did these bans not come with a "no-transfer" character flag? You seem to imply they didn't get it. You're correct. They didn't.  Just a random dude in Team Security. |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7910
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:27:00 -
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ap-zero cheaters would like to believe that they are different from botters and gold sellers - the lepers and convicts of the mmo world - because they convince themselves that their cheating is "harmless"
the truth is that they are no different and that they should be treated the same as botters and gold sellers, because when they get their comeuppance they show no remorse and only complain, and instead of playing the game like the rest of us they will only change their methodology and attempt to evade detection
i bet 90% of those 2300 or whatever will continue using similar cheats mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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Othran
Route One
500
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Posted - 2013.05.19 18:15:00 -
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CCP Stillman wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:Did these bans not come with a "no-transfer" character flag? You seem to imply they didn't get it. You're correct. They didn't. 
When did the policy change?
Last I heard if you got a warning or temp ban then the accounts were locked down so characters couldn't be transferred.
I obviously missed something..... |

ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1320
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Posted - 2013.05.19 18:33:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:I am begging the ISD not to lock this thread as the OP butthurt for being caught cheating and being lowest of the low is priceless :) Not sure you understand the term. My arse is fine thanks.
No, I agree with the quotee, your rump seems almost certainly rustled. It's indicated by your planning to jettison your character. Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |

ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1320
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Posted - 2013.05.19 18:34:00 -
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CCP Stillman wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:Did these bans not come with a "no-transfer" character flag? You seem to imply they didn't get it. You're correct. They didn't. 
Can those of us who don't cheat and like to believe that the wrath of CCP is as harsh as Guard likes to claim have an explanation as to why not? Surely you want your deterrent to be strong? Seems to me like these cheaters got away scot-free. Makes me almost want to try it... Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |

Alexa Coates
Federation Navy Assembly Group LLC
560
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Posted - 2013.05.19 18:42:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:Tuttomenui II wrote: If you get permabanned, then CCP will ban all of your accounts. You should probably stop breaking the EULA/TOS before that happens.
I appreciate your concern and will evaluate my future decisions on a case by case basis. I knew what I was doing and the consequences involved. While my cheating ways really haven't changed that much since I was 16, I've been getting caught lately. I must be getting old and slow. UO - Never Banned SWG - Never Banned WOW - Never Banned SWTOR -Banned (couple of times) PS2 - Banned (many many times) Now this. Maybe I dodged a bullet, and need to have a good long hard look at myself. Prince Kobol wrote:I am begging the ISD not to lock this thread as the OP butthurt for being caught cheating and being lowest of the low is priceless :) Not sure you understand the term. My arse is fine thanks.
so you're one of THOSE assholes who literally cannot play a game without cheats? Please, by all means, pick up a knife, and jam it into your jugular.
That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers. |

Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
1171
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Posted - 2013.05.19 18:49:00 -
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But will you ban people using the AP100 exploit? Nyan |
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CCP Stillman
C C P C C P Alliance
544

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Posted - 2013.05.19 18:56:00 -
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Othran wrote:CCP Stillman wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:Did these bans not come with a "no-transfer" character flag? You seem to imply they didn't get it. You're correct. They didn't.  When did the policy change? Last I heard if you got a warning or temp ban then the accounts were locked down so characters couldn't be transferred. I obviously missed something..... That is only true for our bot detection systems. In this case, given that the accounts that we could tell did other bad stuff were permanently banned, we did not have concerns about people moving characters to avoid "strikes" as we did with our war on bots.
That could have been a mistake. Who knows. But it was decided not to apply that restriction, because we didn't see a good reason to do so. Just a random dude in Team Security. |
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CCP Stillman
C C P C C P Alliance
544

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Posted - 2013.05.19 18:58:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:CCP Stillman wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:Did these bans not come with a "no-transfer" character flag? You seem to imply they didn't get it. You're correct. They didn't.  Can those of us who don't cheat and like to believe that the wrath of CCP is as harsh as Guard likes to claim have an explanation as to why not? Surely you want your deterrent to be strong? Seems to me like these cheaters got away scot-free. Makes me almost want to try it... Because the issue of bots and client modification, while heavily overlapping and related, are distinct issues in this specific case. In the case of bots, a no-transfer flag makes sense, as our data showed. But for this one-off action, we have better deterrents. Just a random dude in Team Security. |
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CCP Stillman
C C P C C P Alliance
544

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Posted - 2013.05.19 18:59:00 -
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Rakshasa Taisab wrote:But will you ban people using the AP100 exploit? I don't care if you modified your client to autopilot to 0km or 100km. It violates the EULA. So yes. Just a random dude in Team Security. |
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baltec1
Bat Country
6507
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Posted - 2013.05.19 19:45:00 -
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CCP Stillman wrote:Othran wrote:CCP Stillman wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:Did these bans not come with a "no-transfer" character flag? You seem to imply they didn't get it. You're correct. They didn't.  When did the policy change? Last I heard if you got a warning or temp ban then the accounts were locked down so characters couldn't be transferred. I obviously missed something..... That is only true for our bot detection systems. In this case, given that the accounts that we could tell did other bad stuff were permanently banned, we did not have concerns about people moving characters to avoid "strikes" as we did with our war on bots. That could have been a mistake. Who knows. But it was decided not to apply that restriction, because we didn't see a good reason to do so.
Given that in future you will be perma banning people for this its a bit of a moot point. Although I too would haved to have seen them locked down. |

Dub Step
Death To Everyone But Us
79
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Posted - 2013.05.19 20:10:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Can those of us who don't cheat and like to believe that the wrath of CCP is as harsh as Guard likes to claim have an explanation as to why not? Surely you want your deterrent to be strong? Seems to me like these cheaters got away scot-free. Makes me almost want to try it... Lolol honest players tears amirite? 
Joking aside; CCP have already explained their rulings on this issue in some detail. Try reading devblogs and announcements in future. |

Dub Step
Death To Everyone But Us
79
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Posted - 2013.05.19 20:19:00 -
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Alexa Coates wrote:so you're one of THOSE assholes who literally cannot play a game without cheats? Please, by all means, pick up a knife, and jam it into your jugular.
Your.
Condemn someone for using cheats in a videogame if it's that important to you, but to will them to commit suicide in real life is just disgusting. I suggest you get a grip on life. |
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CCP Stillman
C C P C C P Alliance
547

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Posted - 2013.05.19 20:51:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: Given that in future you will be perma banning people for this its a bit of a moot point. Although I too would have liked to have seen them locked down.
That's a fair point and your opinion is definitely appreciated. We'll keep that in mind for the future if similar circumstances should arise  Just a random dude in Team Security. |
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Arec Bardwin
948
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Posted - 2013.05.19 20:59:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:I've been on the wagon for 30 days. Careless prediction: soon to become a bannedwagon.
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Danni stark
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Posted - 2013.05.19 21:02:00 -
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Dub Step wrote:Alexa Coates wrote:so you're one of THOSE assholes who literally cannot play a game without cheats? Please, by all means, pick up a knife, and jam it into your jugular.
Your. Condemn someone for using cheats in a videogame if it's that important to you, but to will them to commit suicide in real life is just disgusting. I suggest you get a grip on life.
"so you are one of" is right, therefore it's you're. not your. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
802
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Posted - 2013.05.19 21:52:00 -
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be smart: deal with the horrors of empire hauling by paying pubbies literally less than a cent's worth of isk per jump |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2188

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Posted - 2013.05.19 22:50:00 -
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I've removed an off topic post. Please keep it on topic and civil. Thank you. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
8303
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Posted - 2013.05.19 23:01:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:be smart: deal with the horrors of empire hauling by paying pubbies literally less than a cent's worth of isk per jump Then find out that you didn't put enough collateral in the contract, which was picked up by a (insert "terribad, scammers, nullsec, all of the preceding" corp of choice) alt, and all your stuff is now gone 
Seriously though people will move your stuff for a pittance, check out Red Frog, PushX or any of their competitors. A war hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
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