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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.10.22 06:54:00 -
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Congratulations to Shin Ra of Burn Eden on his victory in the Fanfest Tournament. 
Maybe now people will remember me as the person who lost to Burn Eden instead of the person who lost the Gold Magnate, or maybe it'll just be both 
Aaaand now I shall go to sleep ! 
PS; He did not fit warp core stabs for our fights.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.10.22 06:56:00 -
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If anything could make us forget the Gold Magnate it's this. Or maybe losing to DJ. That might be worse.
Sig modified due to xenophobic comments -Iacon
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2005.10.22 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog If anything could make us forget the Gold Magnate it's this. Or maybe losing to DJ. That might be worse.
If you want to talk about getting pwned by DJ, the man to talk to would be WUUBAA.  ------ If Captain James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock embracing one another, in a bath tube, nude, in space, is wrong, I don't want to be right. |

Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.22 07:46:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 22/10/2005 07:48:12
Originally by: F'nog If anything could make us forget the Gold Magnate it's this. Or maybe losing to DJ. That might be worse.
A few points:
Everyone had a 300 million point Super Character.
Shin Ra made it to the finals using Mk2 Caracals with 5 mid-slots. Long range missiles spammage and Sensor Damps 4TW! 
Damn near everyone else in the tournament... made it to where they were using... a Mk2 Caracal with 5 mid-slots! 
Tyrrax made it to the finals using a Maller or Amarr ships all day!  
For the final, thanks to a bit of heckling from the audience (*cough*), the final format was this:
Best two out of three.
Fight one - close range, no EW. Fight two - long range, no EW. Fight three - ANYTHING GOES.
In fight one, Shin Ra did something ab****ely EVIL - Thorax with 5 NOS and drone ownage. The Super Character skills made his drones almost unkillable and after a VERY painfully long time, Tyrrax's Maller went down.
In fight two, Shin Ra flew a Caracal maxed out for speed. He kept the distance from Tyrrax's Maller, whose smart bombs could not stop the missiles spammage, and it was over before it ever really began.
Say what you want about Shin Ra, but he won the last two fights about as cleanly as you can.
Personally, I hatge pre-arranged 1 v 1's because it's nothing more than a module fitting contest and a roll of the dice. Primarily though, CCP made a mistake holding the tournament at the same time as the tech lectures, something they acknoeledge will not happen next year.
The other thing is that next year, they are looking at a pre-resgistration requirement and doing the tournament as a three man team effort at times that do not conflict with the lectures, so THAT should be a lot of fun.
So, congrats to Tyrrax for making it to the end and sticking to his role playng roots. Congrats to Shin Ra for winning the match using something OTHER than a EW set up. Even tho, at the end, his words to the crowd were, "Warp Core Stabs 4TW!" 
Oh, did I menion that the winner gets a fully fitted faction BS on Tranquility?  -
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.10.22 07:52:00 -
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Well done, Shin Ra.
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Camador
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Posted - 2005.10.22 08:02:00 -
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Edited by: Camador on 22/10/2005 08:02:27 Hooray for team burn eden and shin ra!  ______________________________
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jamesw
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Posted - 2005.10.22 08:44:00 -
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I read the thread title, and thought you lost something else  -- jamesw Rubra Libertas Militia Vids here |

Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2005.10.22 09:08:00 -
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I thought you lost the Impoc at first. GJ Shin Ra! ......so say I Lucian Alucard of the blood line blah blah blah blah no one really cares anymore!
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2005.10.22 09:39:00 -
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well another faction ship that wont be used i guess...
"We brake for nobody"
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2005.10.22 09:42:00 -
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Nice what faction ship did you get Shin ra ?
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Wizard
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Posted - 2005.10.22 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Oh, did I menion that the winner gets a fully fitted faction BS on Tranquility? 
What bs was given and what mods?
I might have to make an effort to hunt shin ra down.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.22 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Wizard
Originally by: Seleene
Oh, did I menion that the winner gets a fully fitted faction BS on Tranquility? 
What bs was given and what mods?
I might have to make an effort to hunt shin ra down.
Fully faction kitted faction BS of the winner's choice.  -
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Lefevre
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Posted - 2005.10.22 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 22/10/2005 09:50:59
Fully faction kitted faction BS of the winner's choice. 
Not sure what Shin Ra picked, but he got an awesome model of the Brutix!!
Does that include Jovian ships? 
Congrats to Shin Ra for winning the event :)
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.10.22 10:07:00 -
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is fanfest already going? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Yrma
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Posted - 2005.10.22 10:17:00 -
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Edited by: Yrma on 22/10/2005 10:19:59 RagnarH:
The last day is 2day.
and seleene, I asked Shin Ra outside loftkastalinn and he said he was prolly gonna go for the rattlesnake...and that rattlesnake will NEVER EVER see space  ------------ Yrma ♥ RagnarH We have joy, we have fun, we always have SE on the run, but the fun doesn't last, cause SE warps so fast, now it's fun, got some scramblers....little SE bette |

Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2005.10.22 10:30:00 -
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Grats to the winners(Shin Ra included ) Might add that the losers in the semi-finals got a Concept art of theyr choice.
I'm just glad I spent my time on the roundtables and lectures rather than watching Caracals spew missiles all day long, was interesting to watch the semis and final on bigscreen tho.
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.10.22 10:37:00 -
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Grats to Shinra and well played to Tyrrax, however I echo Seleene's thoughts in that a maxed SP any mod goes arranged 1v1 is a bit pointless.
Originally by: Berneh
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.10.22 11:15:00 -
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Prize for second place was about 400x as cool as prize for first place anyway, who needs more faction BS and faction mods after all 
2nd place gets poster of choice, signed by entire dev team + faction cruiser with faction loadout.
Oh and err before everyone flames my idiotic sniper maller setup (once the fraps is released anyways), I had about 7 minutes to come up with a setup for a fight where I wasn't allowed to go closer than 50 km to my opponent (120 km effective range caracal), and I didn't really like the thought of switching to caracal for the final duel after using a Maller for the entire tournament.
Losing ftw.
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2005.10.22 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: Omber Zombie on 22/10/2005 11:17:55 I knew I should have taken that bet with Vegeta. Gratz to Shin, but ♥ to Tyrrax for naming his ill-fated ship after me.  -----------
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.10.22 11:20:00 -
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2nd place prize IS way cooler then
also, you suck :D
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2005.10.22 12:00:00 -
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YouŠre not the biggest loser - I didnŠt even make it to the tourny as I was still in bed following the previous nights antics! 
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Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
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Posted - 2005.10.22 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: kieron I'd like to chime in with my comments and a bit of a behind the scenes look into the Championships. Lastly, the Caracal that seemed to pwn the tournament for the most part is one of the test set-ups. Most likely, that extra mid slot won't make it to TQ.
So that means the eventual winner was playing the entire time with an extra mid slot compared to the reality of eve, which will be that the ship isn't getting an extra mid slot? So.. the guy that won had an artificial and noticeable advantage? I wasn't there but that doesn't sound fair to me.
Although I am glad that it showed how overpowered a caracel might be with one more mid slot, meaning it almost definitely won't be making it onto TQ.
Or...that the game conditions placed on that 1v1 were nowhere near real game conditions, and you dont know what you are talking about.
Leave that slot alone caldari need those mids to tackle ffs. ---------------------------------------------
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.10.22 15:34:00 -
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"So.. the guy that won had an artificial and noticeable advantage?"
Everyone present had access to these ships, so no advantage over anyone else who participated.
"Although I am glad that it showed how overpowered a caracel might be with one more mid slot, meaning it almost definitely won't be making it onto TQ."
... when was the last time fights in EVE were anywhere near pre-arranged 1v1 with no warp out rule?
Using this sort of exercise for TQ balancing... that'd be dumb beyond belief. Can only hope kieron was simply doing what he considered 'forum damage control' and speaking without actual prior feedback from people who do the whole balancing thing. >.<;;
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.10.22 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine "So.. the guy that won had an artificial and noticeable advantage?"
Everyone present had access to these ships, so no advantage over anyone else who participated.
"Although I am glad that it showed how overpowered a caracel might be with one more mid slot, meaning it almost definitely won't be making it onto TQ."
... when was the last time fights in EVE were anywhere near pre-arranged 1v1 with no warp out rule?
Using this sort of exercise for TQ balancing... that'd be dumb beyond belief. Can only hope kieron was simply doing what he considered 'forum damage control' and speaking without actual prior feedback from people who do the whole balancing thing. >.<;;
yeah, if PvP is going to be balanced on this, its a joke nothing more --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.10.22 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine "So.. the guy that won had an artificial and noticeable advantage?" Everyone present had access to these ships, so no advantage over anyone else who participated.
That's true but you read that Tyraxx stuck with amarr ships out of a sense of RP. That modified caracel was clearly better than the rest of the ships. It kind of removed the variety when you're given the option of all the normal ships or one that's been artificially boosted for the event, especially when each race didn't have a specially boosted ship, just the caldari. I know he had max skills and could have used it but that's not the point. People shouldn't have been forced to either use the caracel or lose. According to an earlier poster, most of the people that made it to the final rounds did so using the caracel.
Incidentally, I always meant to ask you why you quote like that rather than using the normal quoting system like everyone else (except pottsey). I guess now's as good a time as any to ask.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.10.22 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: j0sephine "So.. the guy that won had an artificial and noticeable advantage?" Everyone present had access to these ships, so no advantage over anyone else who participated.
That's true but you read that Tyraxx stuck with amarr ships out of a sense of RP. That modified caracel was clearly better than the rest of the ships. It kind of removed the variety when you're given the option of all the normal ships or one that's been artificially boosted for the event, especially when each race didn't have a specially boosted ship, just the caldari. I know he had max skills and could have used it but that's not the point. People shouldn't have been forced to either use the caracel or lose. According to an earlier poster, most of the people that made it to the final rounds did so using the caracel.
Incidentally, I always meant to ask you why you quote like that rather than using the normal quoting system like everyone else (except pottsey). I guess now's as good a time as any to ask.
read ships & mods forum please
his maller had more PG, and caracal is the weakest tier 2 cruiser, even boosted it misses 1 slot compared to the others --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
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Posted - 2005.10.22 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: j0sephine "So.. the guy that won had an artificial and noticeable advantage?" Everyone present had access to these ships, so no advantage over anyone else who participated.
That's true but you read that Tyraxx stuck with amarr ships out of a sense of RP. That modified caracel was clearly better than the rest of the ships. It kind of removed the variety when you're given the option of all the normal ships or one that's been artificially boosted for the event, especially when each race didn't have a specially boosted ship, just the caldari. I know he had max skills and could have used it but that's not the point. People shouldn't have been forced to either use the caracel or lose. According to an earlier poster, most of the people that made it to the final rounds did so using the caracel.
Incidentally, I always meant to ask you why you quote like that rather than using the normal quoting system like everyone else (except pottsey). I guess now's as good a time as any to ask.
fyi caracal is not the only mk2 ship. check the ships and modules forum there is a mk2 maller as well among other ships. ---------------------------------------------
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.10.22 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 22/10/2005 15:53:29
Originally by: Nafri read ships & mods forum please his maller had more PG, and caracal is the weakest tier 2 cruiser, even boosted it misses 1 slot compared to the others
Originally by: Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
fyi caracal is not the only mk2 ship. check the ships and modules forum there is a mk2 maller as well among other ships.
That makes a bit more sense. You're right, I forgot they were using all Mk II ships. Alright, I concede. There was no distinct advantage since they were on equal footing with MK II ships.
However, those ships haven't made it through testing and I think it was a mistake to use MK II ships in the first place. And Regardless of what people think about the balance between them, if the event was fought with ships that were not the same as in-game, I know that I personally would place no weight on the success of it. Winning with a ship that doesn't exist as it did in the actual game isn't a conclusive test of skill. If it were a scientific experiment, I'd throw it out.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.10.22 15:52:00 -
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"That's true but you read that Tyraxx stuck with amarr ships out of a sense of RP. That modified caracel was clearly better than the rest of the ships."
I'd be guessing these other ships were with post-Mk2 changes, too.
Caracal simply worked best in that particular situation because one could put multiple sensor dampeners on their target and spam missiles from afar, and the target wasn't allowed to warp (nor able to hit back) ... and if jammed, can switch to FoF missiles and still hit.
The thing is, one could do pretty much the same thing with current 4 mid slot version of Caracal under these conditions -- 3 sensor dampeners are enough to cripple any cruiser just as well. Meaning by the same logic Caracal is overpowered already, and guess she shold have at least couple of her mid slots taken away, to make her "balanced"... even though this is obviously a very specific case of "stupid".
(re: quoting, the old 'regular' quoting system used to break with nested quotes, so i'd rather use these manual things... force of habit, by now :s
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.10.22 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine "That's true but you read that Tyraxx stuck with amarr ships out of a sense of RP. That modified caracel was clearly better than the rest of the ships."
I'd be guessing these other ships were with post-Mk2 changes, too.
Caracal simply worked best in that particular situation because one could put multiple sensor dampeners on their target and spam missiles from afar, and the target wasn't allowed to warp (nor able to hit back) ... and if jammed, can switch to FoF missiles and still hit.
The thing is, one could do pretty much the same thing with current 4 mid slot version of Caracal under these conditions -- 3 sensor dampeners are enough to cripple any cruiser just as well. Meaning by the same logic Caracal is overpowered already, and guess she shold have at least couple of her mid slots taken away, to make her "balanced"... even though this is obviously a very specific case of "stupid".
(re: quoting, the old 'regular' quoting system used to break with nested quotes, so i'd rather use these manual things... force of habit, by now :s
Think even a moa would have been usefull in this situation  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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