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Alexandra Alt Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2011.10.21 11:03:00 - [1] - Quote http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-21-eurogamer-interviews-ccps-hilmar-petursson-interview I like, knowing the little I know about Icelandic folks, this interview makes me glad, specially the acknowledge of certain things like how biased is the CSM in certain aspects of the game (not that all is dismiss-able (spelling), but the bias is there nevertheless). Thoughts on the interview ?
Headerman Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx 253	Posted - 2011.10.21 11:11:00 - [2] - Quote When asked about resigning, Hilmar said... Quote: I absolutely considered that but I think that frankly it would have been an easy way out. Being accountable for this type of situation, leading the company into this position, it's also my responsibility to lead us out of it. I've had support from employees in doing that. I've now learned a life lesson from going through this and I hope that will make me a better CEO in the future. For me, having an experienced CEO at the helm is FAR better than anyone else, especially one that comes face to face with the exact problems he is facing. He knows how to steer CCP through and come out the other side in one piece. [img]http://i53.tinypic.com/bebnf8.jpg[/img]
Florestan Bronstein The Waterworks 120	Posted - 2011.10.21 11:15:00 - [3] - Quote Alexandra Alt wrote: Thoughts on the interview ? I had expected WiS development to be slowed down, not to be stopped completely - many players won't like this and will call it yet another example of an unfinished & abandoned feature but with the loss of synergy with WoD () one has to recognize that the cost/benefit evaluation for WiS has changed, too. () WoD is dead for now. Note how he dodged the "Is there still a roadmap for its development and eventual release?" question. I guess the main reason they keep some people working on it is to avoid having to write off the WoD-related assets.
Alexandra Alt Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2011.10.21 11:17:00 - [4] - Quote I agree there too, it would create a lot more issues, internal company problems and economic. Jester's blog post is a good example of how things work at that level which many people seem to be missing. http://jestertrek.blogspot.com/2011/10/burn-rate.html
Benilopax The Ashen Lion Syndicate 11	Posted - 2011.10.21 11:24:00 - [5] - Quote I'm quite disappointing that Incarna has been totally abandoned rather than just scaled back but I understand their decision. Also agree about Hilmar not resigning, a new CEO would make things worse not better, Hilmar has learned a lesson lets give him a chance.
non judgement Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance 96	Posted - 2011.10.21 11:24:00 - [6] - Quote Quote: But some of my concerns right now relate to whether the CSM is maybe focused on a particular aspect of the game and I'm starting to get feedback from players that they worry the CSM is too pre-occupied by a certain playstyle. That might mean we may need to change the structure, but definitely the CSM has worked as a feedback tool greatly throughout the years. We will have them over at the end of the year, after everything that's gone on, and we will have a chance to talk about that. We'll just see where we are and take it from there. Ooooo becareful CSM people
Thorn Galen Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 104	Posted - 2011.10.21 11:25:00 - [7] - Quote That interview is an excellent read. Especially this part of it :- "Eurogamer: The Council of Stellar Management [CSM] has been increasingly vocal and rebellious in recent months. What's your relationship with them like at the moment - your personal feelings and those of the company as a whole? Hilmar P+¬tursson: The CSM has been under constant evolution based on what's going on in the current environment, what's going on with CCP and Eve, who's on the Council and all that. The CSM has helped greatly through the years in getting feedback for aspects of the game. But some of my concerns right now relate to whether the CSM is maybe focused on a particular aspect of the game and I'm starting to get feedback from players that they worry the CSM is too pre-occupied by a certain playstyle. That might mean we may need to change the structure, but definitely the CSM has worked as a feedback tool greatly throughout the years. We will have them over at the end of the year, after everything that's gone on, and we will have a chance to talk about that. We'll just see where we are and take it from there." The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars.
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront 73	Posted - 2011.10.21 11:35:00 - [8] - Quote Non-trivial questions answered with candour and humility .. just feels icky! Keep expecting him to ask for/offer a hug Quote: But some of my concerns right now relate to whether the CSM is maybe focused on a particular aspect of the game and I'm starting to get feedback from players that they worry the CSM is too pre-occupied by a certain playstyle. That might mean we may need to change the structure, but definitely the CSM has worked as a feedback tool greatly throughout the years... Oh dear, no more purely null-sec councils .. whatever will the bot monkey's think of next to control the direction Eve takes! PS: Still waiting for actual details as to how you plan on ~~messing up~~ fixing FW and low-sec .. loads more blogs needed!
Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance 200	Posted - 2011.10.21 11:38:00 - [9] - Quote If they are really using apocrypha as a template to what an expansion should look like (as a base model), then i'm happy already. Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand.
Mr R4nd0m Ministry Of Mining And Industry Shit.Happens 2	Posted - 2011.10.21 11:43:00 - [10] - Quote Thorn Galen wrote: That interview is an excellent read. Especially this part of it :- "Eurogamer: The Council of Stellar Management [CSM] has been increasingly vocal and rebellious in recent months. What's your relationship with them like at the moment - your personal feelings and those of the company as a whole? Hilmar P+¬tursson: The CSM has been under constant evolution based on what's going on in the current environment, what's going on with CCP and Eve, who's on the Council and all that. The CSM has helped greatly through the years in getting feedback for aspects of the game. But some of my concerns right now relate to whether the CSM is maybe focused on a particular aspect of the game and I'm starting to get feedback from players that they worry the CSM is too pre-occupied by a certain playstyle. That might mean we may need to change the structure, but definitely the CSM has worked as a feedback tool greatly throughout the years. We will have them over at the end of the year, after everything that's gone on, and we will have a chance to talk about that. We'll just see where we are and take it from there." Too true, the CSM is all wrong at the moment. The problem is letting any goons in there, especially letting Mittani in as chair, big big mistake. Hilmar, if your removing some of your own people. Then remove the CSM, its not working and hasnt really worked. Now you just got CSM members trying to f**k over other CSM members, corruption and everything else. Just get rid of it, it sort of served its purpose. Yes listen to the WHOLE community, but you also got to keep true to yourselves and make the decisions too. You cant keep pandering to the bitter vets, eve needs to move on. You have to start listening also ( and im a vet btw) to how new players find the game. These people are eves future, and i think I huge focus should be on that. Its these people you want to get excited about the game, the next generation so to speak. These are the people you want to shout about eve to other new players, not bitter vets, who only say, this is eve dont like it get lost attitude. Thats ALL WRONG. New players will not come to a game full of idiots. They just wont. So listen to the vets, but listen to new players too. The problem with CSM its full of idiot vets, some out to ruin the game (so why are they in there). Big mistake, remove the CSM now, before these idiots ruin the game entirely. You know what the issues are now, you know what your mistakes are and you know where you want to be, so basically just get on with it!
non judgement Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance 97	Posted - 2011.10.21 11:45:00 - [11] - Quote He seemed to say the right things after losing 20% of his workforce, I guess. A bit of a PR thing, but probably had to be done at a time like this.
Freyh ClownStar 24	Posted - 2011.10.21 11:53:00 - [12] - Quote Hilmar P+¬tursson: The CSM has been under constant evolution based on what's going on in the current environment, what's going on with CCP and Eve, who's on the Council and all that. The CSM has helped greatly through the years in getting feedback for aspects of the game. But some of my concerns right now relate to whether the CSM is maybe focused on a particular aspect of the game and I'm starting to get feedback from players that they worry the CSM is too pre-occupied by a certain playstyle. That might mean we may need to change the structure, but definitely the CSM has worked as a feedback tool greatly throughout the years. We will have them over at the end of the year, after everything that's gone on, and we will have a chance to talk about that. We'll just see where we are and take it from there. That part. I like
Scatim Helicon GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 92	Posted - 2011.10.21 11:57:00 - [13] - Quote Too many CEOs these days are quick to abandon ship with their golden parachutes the minute anything goes wrong and leave the rest of the company to tidy up the mess, I'm happy to see that Hilmar seems to favour the "You broke it? You fix it!" approach.
Ciar Meara Virtus Vindice 170	Posted - 2011.10.21 11:58:00 - [14] - Quote Very good interview, very good points. Although CCP should not give up on Incarna completly, it just needs to be incorperated into the sandbox like everything else in eve. The NeX store and the WoD/Incarna combination is what made Ambulation fail, not the original idea, go back to your original ideas regarding Ambulation before MT and you'll find many usefull and fun things to work with. The work on many of the Incarna graphics has been done and should not be wasted. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]
Lexmana Imperial Stout 38	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:01:00 - [15] - Quote Quote: We are back in the spaceship business.
Cailais Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United 72	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:03:00 - [16] - Quote It struck me as a pretty candid interview. To what extent the infamous 'summer of rage' impacted upon the financial and cultural realities of attempting to produce both DUST514 and WoD at the same time is harder to judge. The overall impression is that CCP tried to bite off more than it could chew, and had grown to big and to unwieldy to enable fluid internal communication. I think a telling line is: "A lot of the mistakes we made over the summer were known quite well within our community groups, but they were not getting through to the people making the decisions due to not being co-located with them". I think that exemplifies that the community reps were so busy fire fighting they didn't have time to sound the alarm that the building was burning around them. It might even go further than that - Hilmar not actually being told what was going on or how serious it was. The re focusing on EVE and FiS is a good thing in my view, although I am disappointed that the potential of Incarna won't be realised for many years yet. However, if the price of WiS has to be paid to make the integration of DUST514 and EVE a better experience and EVE becomes a better game overall that may be a price worth paying. If CCP jettisons the NeX store (how being a more complicated process) then Incarna could still prove to be a crowd drawing success - provided it has within it an actual game to be played rather than just pretty pixels and fancy graphics. Clearly CCP Hilmar has decided to get back down on the shop floor and that at least is encouraging - just a shame it hadnt happened sooner. C.
helana Tsero Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:05:00 - [17] - Quote Good read and insight into the pressures of a c level exec. (as is jesters blog post linked above) Am a little disappointed that Incarna seems to have been abandoned however I understand the reasons and its definitely better that flying in space is fixed and expanded upon. Would be nice to see Incarna relooked at in a year or two. Personally id like captains quarters to be sort of a news hub with video of corp/alliance battles and updates on what is happening within new eden. I think this would help new and old players connect better with the eve world and leran what other pilots are doing. I never really understood how establishments were going to work so its good they have halted that. It seems that eve is now at least pointing in the right direction and I'm looking forward to "Apocrypha" like expansions in the next 12-18months. (hopefully)
Nyio Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 166	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:10:00 - [18] - Quote A great and successful man once shared some life wisdom with me, he said: "Keep doing something for no more than seven years, whether you enjoy it or not." He meant that after seven years doing the same thing every day you're bound to start losing edge, and that it is then better to move on to new things. Just my thoughts.. Features & Ideas Discussion: Agent Finder, Black Holes Needs a banner here..
Jade Constantine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction 615	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:13:00 - [19] - Quote I felt that was a very good interview. The interviewer asked the right questions in the right way and Hilmar was candid and seemed genuine in the responses. I felt what he was saying about remote commuity management was quite compelling actually. And while he didn't promise to string up and hang everyone involved in the NeX project from the lamp-posts of reykjavik he did give the strong impression that we would not be seeing more content poured down the MT drain in the future while Eve would return to its traditional player manufactured and marketed item roots. I think the point about a 0.0 dominated CSM is probably a fair one also - and I could see some kind of revision in the process there that has cateogies of CSM members representing various larger interest groups to ensure balance. On the question on Apocrypha - I'm very happy. One of the things that enraged me most this year about Eve was hearing CCP Soundwave answering a similar question during the monoclegate scandal with the answer (paraphrased) "there will likely never be another apocrypha scale expansion". That more than anything else at the time screamed "eve is being run down while we milk you for cash". But hearing this stuff is back on the table and CCP will start looking at Apocrypha+ scale expansions again is genuinely the right direction for this game. Overall - it was a good interview. (and top marks to the interviewer - very professional and insightful.) The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting!
Raid'En Apprentice Innovations 79	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:19:00 - [20] - Quote some good points. and add oficial link to this article soon, we always have to search them, and that's not normal...
Aidan Brooder Dynasphere Ltd. 78	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:42:00 - [21] - Quote Disappointed that Incarna will be moth-balled and forgotten. Well, it just means that other people will now start to whine, who hadn't had to, because they were promised what they wanted would be in the winter expansion. But from the moment WoD development was continued "with a much smaller team", it was obvious that this would happen to Incarna. Looking forward to new space features & bug fixes, but I really hope there will be things for everyone to enjoy. Apocrypha was great because it had just that: Something for everyone. I think the CSM - aside from being too 0-sec focused atm and some little internal dislikes - is a good "tool" as Hilmar put it. Perhaps they should not be the only source of player feedback. Not even in combination with the madness that is the EVE forums. I don't have any numbers, but I do not think too many bother to vote for the CSM or to read into the background of the CSM members - if they have any. And I know not too many players visit the forums regularly. Perhaps they should - at least from time to time - make some ingame polls to get an better understanding of what the players want.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 84	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:48:00 - [22] - Quote \0/ How long you think until the PRO-CSM cabinet derails this one too?
Scatim Helicon GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 94	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:52:00 - [23] - Quote Jade Constantine wrote: I think the point about a 0.0 dominated CSM is probably a fair one also - and I could see some kind of revision in the process there that has cateogies of CSM members representing various larger interest groups to ensure balance. Its going to be hilarious if Affirmative Action comes in to ensure 'balance' and we just get our highsec alts voted into the CSM to 'represent' empire.
Tenebrae Delucescere Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2011.10.21 12:57:00 - [24] - Quote One thing I think is very important to note is his comment on the shift to FiS. It wasn't "no one wants WiS, so we're not going to do it any more." It was, "right now the players really want FiS. If that's what they want, we will listen." As the winter expansion comes, and lots of FiS things happen, the player focus can shift from "FiS is so broken, why aren't you fixing it?" to "Hey space is pretty cool right now, how about that station stuff?". As fixes are made, and the player focus shifts, we can see the development of both. Ultimately, this is a great sign from CCP, to say "we're listening to what our players want, and focusing development on that." If they are true to that statement, continuing to voice the opintion that players do want WiS features should communicate to CCP that we do want to see the development of both. As the collective player voice balances out, we should eventually see equal co-deveopment of FiS and WiS. I'm very excited about a game with both space and stations. Say what you want, but I would love to dress up my space barbie, hang out with other players in player run establishments, and then hop into my spaceship to go blast pirates. When you fly to a certain system not just because there is a good agent there, but also a really cool bar that you hang out in, or a player shop with good prices. That synergy I think will be a ton of fun. Fix space, right now it needs it. But don't forget Incarna!
Buruk Utama Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 39	Posted - 2011.10.21 13:03:00 - [25] - Quote Quote: The structural situation made it very hard for the development side to hear the feedback from the players via the community teams and revamp plans based on it Interesting article but going to wait and see what they do not what they say since they've lied so much throughout the years. Is this a pure PR stunt who knows. However that quoted section smacks me as finger pointing. To me it sounds like he is saying the CCP developers didn't have any real ideal what the community wanted or didn't want in expansions. I find this incredibly hard to believe since we see so many devs in the thread and the feedback on blog articles and SiSi implementation. There is no way they could have missed the problems from those feedback threads. A great example is the CO changes feedback thread, the devs were there at first but have utterly disappeared from the conversation. Par for the course though
Josie Starshine Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 12	Posted - 2011.10.21 13:15:00 - [26] - Quote Scatim Helicon wrote: Jade Constantine wrote: I think the point about a 0.0 dominated CSM is probably a fair one also - and I could see some kind of revision in the process there that has cateogies of CSM members representing various larger interest groups to ensure balance. Its going to be hilarious if Affirmative Action comes in to ensure 'balance' and we just get our highsec alts voted into the CSM to 'represent' empire. Good point. I suppose just removing the CSM completely is the only credible solution then. Thanks for making this perfectly clear.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 37	Posted - 2011.10.21 13:25:00 - [27] - Quote So.... ...no NEx store ...no Incarna ...no casual content ...no solo content ...no PvE content Why should I keep paying for playing this game, actually? What's in it for me? Nullsec? Nullsec is a chore. Wormholes? Not really interested. Industry? Come on, I like blowing sutff, not building it. More mission running? Because after the first 1,000 Lvl4 they begin to get interesting? Or because it's intrinsecally fun running Lvl5 in loseyourshipsec? Incursions? I don't have that much time to spend. And, that's all. Not the brightest prospects... So... no NEx store... no Incarna... no casual content... no solo content... no PvE content... Why should I keep paying to play this game?
Nyio Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 166	Posted - 2011.10.21 13:31:00 - [28] - Quote Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: More mission running? Because after the first 1,000 Lvl4 they begin to get interesting? I think it's more like after the first 15,000 actually. Features & Ideas Discussion: Agent Finder, Black Holes Needs a banner here..
RougeOperator Autocannons Anonymous 94	Posted - 2011.10.21 13:57:00 - [29] - Quote This interview should have been part of the announced firings. Or what he says should have been part of the dev blog. This is what communication is. Still a lot of fluff and bluster in it at points though.
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront 73	Posted - 2011.10.21 14:32:00 - [30] - Quote Scatim Helicon wrote: Its going to be hilarious if Affirmative Action comes in to ensure 'balance' and we just get our highsec alts voted into the CSM to 'represent' empire. Going to be hilarious if CCP adds as a requirement to list any and all alts/mains on candidate application and having a non-negotiable instant perma-ban for pulling that or similar stunt .. Ask yourself why the NDA isn't broken as a matter of fact by every damn CSM member .. with severe enough sanctions the urge to be trixy shrivels up like so many bursting ego's when faced with asking out the not-quite-horrible-to-look-at girl.

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