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Jessy Berbers
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Tribal Band
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Posted - 2013.03.23 15:49:00 -
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Maybe instead of whining you should get the skills and modify your own client to use the old turret models, as the new ones? Just like i used to do with WoW, i modded certain stuff on my side alone. didnt give me any advantages just a different skin, for me myself and i, not visible to other parties. |
Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
35
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Posted - 2013.03.23 17:13:00 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Gustav Mannfred wrote:why not, my idea is not to remove the new ones, it is to make an option in general settings called "use old weapons" or something else. While I am neither an artist nor a producer, a lot of work might be involved maintaining several sets of turrets or assets in general. Then the question arises if the precious developer time should be invested in maintaining a large pool of average assets or to have a smaller, but still sizable set of assets which are kept at high quality and improved while technology advances. Resources are always limited. Think for example at tesselation in EVE as described in this devblog and shown here. Or think about new missile launchers and effects. Show me this pool of assets... on Dominix. You'll need a loupe to find LARGE turrets on it. And new missile launchers looks terrible in the cases that I've seen myself. The ship with small rocket launchers fitted looks like an american transient coming out of 3rd class market with a bunch of paper bags in hands. VERY poor work. |
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
561
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Posted - 2013.03.23 17:28:00 -
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This thread still exists? wumbo |
Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative.
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Posted - 2013.03.23 19:36:00 -
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Jessy Berbers wrote:Maybe instead of whining you should get the skills and modify your own client to use the old turret models, as the new ones? Just like i used to do with WoW, i modded certain stuff on my side alone. didnt give me any advantages just a different skin, for me myself and i, not visible to other parties. Even touching the game files is an instant ban if CCP finds out, which they have before. |
Alexa Coates
Federation Navy Assembly Group LLC
311
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Posted - 2013.03.23 20:44:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:Jessy Berbers wrote:Maybe instead of whining you should get the skills and modify your own client to use the old turret models, as the new ones? Just like i used to do with WoW, i modded certain stuff on my side alone. didnt give me any advantages just a different skin, for me myself and i, not visible to other parties. Even touching the game files is an instant ban if CCP finds out, which they have before. you're stupid. At one point in time CCP told us how to modify the video files to play ****/movies/tvshows/music etc in the cq. That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers. |
Gustav Mannfred
the bring back canflipping corp
58
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Posted - 2013.03.29 08:00:00 -
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Tonto Auri wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Gustav Mannfred wrote:why not, my idea is not to remove the new ones, it is to make an option in general settings called "use old weapons" or something else. While I am neither an artist nor a producer, a lot of work might be involved maintaining several sets of turrets or assets in general. Then the question arises if the precious developer time should be invested in maintaining a large pool of average assets or to have a smaller, but still sizable set of assets which are kept at high quality and improved while technology advances. Resources are always limited. Think for example at tesselation in EVE as described in this devblog and shown here. Or think about new missile launchers and effects. Show me this pool of assets... on Dominix. You'll need a loupe to find LARGE turrets on it. And new missile launchers looks terrible in the cases that I've seen myself. The ship with small rocket launchers fitted looks like an american transient coming out of 3rd class market with a bunch of paper bags in hands. VERY poor work.
i know it. The heavy pulse lasers lookslike a moskito and the mediumpulse laser looks like a torpedo launcher.
About the idea to modify the client:
I dont do it, its a violate of the EULA and ends with a ban. I belive, that when i modify to the old stuff, it will often crash or the game will be very slow. i'm REALY miss the old stuff.-á
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=24183 |
Hanspeter Meier
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.04.09 15:52:00 -
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Its also hard to modify the files.
However, do not ever try this, you will get banned
I also want back the static complexes, they were nice. |
Gustav Mannfred
the bring back canflipping corp
58
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Posted - 2013.04.19 14:34:00 -
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i want the static plexex back too, because they were nice. If you was bored, you just could took out a frigate and farm then to make easly lots of isk. i'm REALY miss the old stuff.-á
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=24183 |
Teri Cox
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.04.25 12:34:00 -
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and im still want to see theold nebulaes and turrets |
Jureth22
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
58
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Posted - 2013.04.25 12:57:00 -
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want.the old guns/drones/missiles sounds,especialy mega pulse laser sound,it used to be so epic. |
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marVLs
116
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Posted - 2013.04.25 13:10:00 -
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Yeah most of the new nebulas are boring, and there's not enough of them |
Gustav Mannfred
the bring back canflipping corp
59
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:36:00 -
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marVLs wrote:Yeah most of the new nebulas are boring, and there's not enough of them
i find the same, they have also low quality and are very dark i'm REALY miss the old stuff.-á
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=24183 |
Gustav Mannfred
the bring back canflipping corp
60
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Posted - 2013.05.25 08:45:00 -
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Here new missing stuff:
The old canflip mechanic: - The new mechanic destroys the rule "Im the owner of the can, only i canprotect it" - Suspectflags should more awarded for illegal attacks in Low-Sec - Add new Flag: Aggressing-timer - 15 min duration - player to corp/alliance flag (Includes NPC too, no reaction by navy or concord, if the ally is in factional warefare) - awarded by stealing loot, remote assist a non-suspect/Criminal/outlaw, which is in war with another corp - remote assisting someone with LE gives agressing flag. He and all members of his corp/alliance can freely attack
Killrights: - it shouldnt be possibile to make them free for all, limit it to corporation (not NPC or Alliance) - this is to avoid using alts to remove killrights i'm REALY miss the old stuff.-á
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=24183 |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
294
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Posted - 2013.05.26 21:39:00 -
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Alexa Coates wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote:Jessy Berbers wrote:Maybe instead of whining you should get the skills and modify your own client to use the old turret models, as the new ones? Just like i used to do with WoW, i modded certain stuff on my side alone. didnt give me any advantages just a different skin, for me myself and i, not visible to other parties. Even touching the game files is an instant ban if CCP finds out, which they have before. you're stupid. At one point in time CCP told us how to modify the video files to play ****/movies/tvshows/music etc in the cq. No he is not. The fact that CCP endorsed in a very specific case to insert out of game files into the client, does not mean it is endorsed in any other way. Alteration of the game code, adding to it, etc., etc. in any way, shape or form is indeed a guarantee for a very permanent ban on all your accounts. Please don't do it.
ISD Ezwal Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Gustav Mannfred
the bring back canflipping corp
61
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:55:00 -
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Let the clientmodifing idea alone and...
I found a site with lots of pictures from 2006-2010. http://www.eveonlineships.com/eve-ships-list.php
You should look at the pictures from 2009 and thats, what eve should look once more. (exept the v2 ships, they should stay V3). But the nebulaes and turret modells. And how i dayed many times, I DONT WANT TO REMOVE the new stuff, just adding an option to swich between the old and new stuff. the new stuff is standard setting for new players.
possibile solution for the huge clientsize when adding it: just compress the files to smaller stuff. Like CAT or something else. I dont understand much about software and modding, but i just know, that compressing lots of huge files to one, smaller can solve it. That means, there should be created a new file like OLD STUFF or so, then, the client size gets just increased by 100mb or so. i'm REALY miss the old stuff.-á
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=24183 |
Gustav Mannfred
the bring back canflipping corp
62
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Posted - 2013.06.29 09:10:00 -
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T3 in Hi-sec complexes:
This change was not realy needed, because it changed nothing on farming. So, they should be again able to enter these sites
i'm REALY miss the old stuff.-á
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=24183 |
marVLs
201
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Posted - 2013.06.29 10:13:00 -
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Im only for one thing, more nebulas There should be at least 5x more of them, it's really bad that You travel, make 20j and still same nebula... and i don't think that making them more colorfull is good, look at other space games, they have realistic skyboxes, dark, sometimes with only stars but it looks better than EVE... |
Sublime Rage
Corpus Alienum Game 0f Tears
20
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Posted - 2013.06.29 12:05:00 -
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HTFU |
Gustav Mannfred
the bring back canflipping corp
62
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Posted - 2013.07.10 06:52:00 -
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i keep it up to date i'm REALY miss the old stuff.-á
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=24183 |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
168
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Posted - 2013.07.10 08:42:00 -
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Gustav Mannfred wrote:the idea is, to make the new modules optional. These guys, whos find better the new weapons can use it as well (like CQ)
What? all five of them? There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |
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anishamora
Atelierele Grivita
31
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:05:00 -
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Gustav Mannfred wrote:i keep it up to date
Here's the thing, I say I like the new stuff more, you say you don't. Who's right, who "wins"? Currently the vast majority of the playerbase thinks the graphical and design changes are improvements and should stay.
Without an overwhelming support on your side, you will never get any of these changes reverted. I could also ramble on about how stagnation is a disease and changes, even bad ones are GREAT and are the engine of progress; but clearly these ideas would bounce off you.
Also, your spelling is crap. If you want to sell an idea, at least try to write properly. |
Gustav Mannfred
the bring back canflipping corp
62
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:58:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Gustav Mannfred wrote:the idea is, to make the new modules optional. These guys, whos find better the new weapons can use it as well (like CQ) What? all five of them?
yes, adding a tickbox in general settings, so you can enable and disable what you like. For example you can use the old turret modells and sounds together with the new nebulaes and missle effects.
the fontselection dropdown gets readded with the 3 old fonts and the new fonts. i'm REALY miss the old stuff.-á
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=24183 |
Alexila Quant
Strategic Acquisitions Group Tactical Research Lab
103
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:00:00 -
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Because everything in your post isn't a complete waste of development time. |
Call Rollard
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
62
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:58:00 -
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+1 I like the idea. Especially the Jukebox and old Nebula idea etc. I don't have music enabled in EVE anymore due to the Jukebox being removed. |
Astroniomix
Cryptic Meta-4
549
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:22:00 -
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Can you people just let this thread die already. |
Gustav Mannfred
the bring back canflipping corp
62
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Posted - 2013.07.17 07:53:00 -
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Astroniomix wrote:Can you people just let this thread die already.
why? i'm REALY miss the old stuff.-á
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=24183 |
Teri Cox
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.07.21 08:50:00 -
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i still want to see, how the old turrets looks on the tier 3 battlecruisers and tier 2 destroyers |
BadSeamus
Chaos Army
14
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Posted - 2013.07.21 10:49:00 -
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Think about how insulting your request sounds to the team that put hours into the artwork and systems. They were tasked with taking something that was old and crappy, and making it better. The layers of sign-off and oversight means that everyone from the individual artists, 3d programmers, team leaders, managers, all the way up to the art director and beyond have looked at the body of work, and assessed it as 'a significant improvement'. As a company they are proud of the changes and think that they make Eve a better product to work with, a more competitive product against its peers, and a better game to play.
Then, every (and I mean every) modification that the dev team makes, some brainless numpty makes a post "can I turn it off" or "can I have the old one back". Its people like you, and threads like this, that cause Devs to take the opinion "no matter what we do, someone will complain - so lets stop listening to the complaints" You know that right?
If you don't like something aesthetic in the game - make a simple post that you don't like it - if you absolutely must. Do it in the test features and ideas section before it hits TQ, and IF THE DEVS DONT CHANGE IT then you can safely assume that your opinion, however valid you feel it is, is not that of the masses. Constant whining for years makes you look like a ****... |
Gustav Mannfred
the bring back canflipping corp
65
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Posted - 2013.07.21 12:24:00 -
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BadSeamus wrote:Think about how insulting your request sounds to the team that put hours into the artwork and systems. They were tasked with taking something that was old and crappy, and making it better. The layers of sign-off and oversight means that everyone from the individual artists, 3d programmers, team leaders, managers, all the way up to the art director and beyond have looked at the body of work, and assessed it as 'a significant improvement'. As a company they are proud of the changes and think that they make Eve a better product to work with, a more competitive product against its peers, and a better game to play.
Then, every (and I mean every) modification that the dev team makes, some brainless numpty makes a post "can I turn it off" or "can I have the old one back". Its people like you, and threads like this, that cause Devs to take the opinion "no matter what we do, someone will complain - so lets stop listening to the complaints" You know that right?
If you don't like something aesthetic in the game - make a simple post that you don't like it - if you absolutely must. Do it in the test features and ideas section before it hits TQ, and IF THE DEVS DONT CHANGE IT then you can safely assume that your opinion, however valid you feel it is, is not that of the masses. Constant whining for years makes you look like a ****...
thanks for the hint in to post stuff like this in the testserver feedback, before it is on TQ. Next time i will do this, if i dont like something. but back then, as i saw the video about the new nebulaes and turret modells, i did not came earlier to the idea, to open up a thread in the testserver feedback. i know, its now over 2 years ago, as the turret got changed. the three big things in this thread( nebulaes, turrets and missilelaunchers) are those, wich me let wine. the rest is just small stuff. i also got contacted by a dev in spring last year and told me, that it may takes too long. (years and more).
What i want with this thread is not to say, that the new stuff of CCP is crap. they did realy great things i like (V3 textures for ships, algined stargates and the ship rebalancing...) all were good stuff. i mean, also the new nebulaes did really took long to make, (video came out in march 2011 and it were on tq in december 2011.
what i want, is just an option to turn off the new nebulaes/turrets/missiles. i found, the old looked better. and as a poster saied, he want to see, how the new ships will look then (me too). i dont want to talk the work of CCP bad, it is all fantastic, what they do. but there are always peoples, wich dont like something (like the jukebox and static plex thread, that is now going for almost 8 months.). And my idea is, as i sayd years ago, to NOT REMOVE the new ones, just to add an option in General settings, to switch to the old nebulaes etc... but the new ones stays standard settings for new players or if you cleaned all settings. And i also not believe, that it takes soo long to get that back, they have evry bulid saved to test. so it may takes a few days to get it back and may one to two weeks for testing.
i'm REALY miss the old stuff.-á
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=24183 |
BadSeamus
Chaos Army
14
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Posted - 2013.07.22 14:51:00 -
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I guess my point is that a) you've made your point - as insensitive as it is and now b) your just coming across like 'noise' that diminishes all other - perhaps more valid - complaints.
You asked "Why?" when someone asked you to let the thread die - I was just giving you a reason. Anyhow - I'm guilty here of making the thread live longer - so no more posts from me. Good luck getting Eve rolled back to 2008 - I'm sure that you'll do wonders for the subscriptions numbers by making it look worse. |
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