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Larts
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:12:00 -
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well as the topic says, currently all caldari ships are worst than all of the others, and the missile nerf was the final shot.no caldari ship can be called "a very good ship", unlike others, all are a joke. i trained my skills to caldari brought them all to 5, lost so much time and now i totally regret it. moving to another race is not an option for me, i dont want to lose anotehr 4 months to max the other skills. i wish i could move mny sp to another race. CCP are you aware of the problem or you think all are fine?
personally i will wait till next patch, if there are no changes i think im gonna quit. |
HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:15:00 -
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kthxbye
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:16:00 -
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Your post hurts my eyes but, can i have your stuff?
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Larts
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:24:00 -
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i was playing world of imbacraft but i quited cause it was exactly that imbalanced. now i come back to eve and see caldari are ruined. you all can be ironic but you all know there is a problem. well i think wow won me again. at least in that you can advance to the good races faster.
and if i eventually quit of course you can have my stuff i have no use for them, but i dont think u gonna want them they are all caldari ships... |
HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:27:00 -
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first: i'll have your stuff! i play caldari, and wouldn't swap them for any other race
second: let me guess, was it whatever your character was that was way too weak in WOW?
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Pestillence
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:31:00 -
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Caldari are rubbish.
I trained caldari bs to level 2 and torps to level 1 and tried to do a level 2 mission.
This frig liek comes to orbit me (lol) and I thought "noob! I'm gonna gank you with this torp (lol)"
So I fired the torp and it did 3 damage!!! I'm liek, "dude, wtf!!!" and then I died. I petitioned it though. I swear that npc was exploiting.
BTW you are totally wrong. Caldari ships arent as bad as you make out. Sure they have relatively few "best in class" and some mediocre ships but your post is just a useless whine.
WHAT is wrong with them? Give figures and examples.
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:35:00 -
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If you think they suck so much you could try training another race instead of whining.
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Rufus Roughneck
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:35:00 -
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Trained all the new skills to 5....
Right, that's not even possible.
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:38:00 -
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Try training the missile skills and fitting a web you might be sble to hit stuff then
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Larts
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:38:00 -
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my post is to ask ccp if they think there is a problem so i can wait for the fix or they think all are fine. i didnt make it to start a useless argument. all races have some very good ships like deimos, zealot, taranis, tempest from far etc.
caldari ships and missiles are a joke now. torps dont even hit deadspace structures with full damage and you talk about frigs? |
Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:39:00 -
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 Originally by: Rufus Roughneck
Trained all the new skills to 5....
Right, that's not even possible.
Uh why not?
I and many other people have or will train all gunnery skills to 5...why can't you train missiles to 5?
~Captain Cutie, HFS Event Horizon
Biomass fears me.
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Larts
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kyozoku
If you think they suck so much you could try training another race instead of whining.
as i said i lost too much time to train them all to 5 and now just change race and lose another 3-4 months?
and when i say level 5 i mean bs, cruiser, frigs, indy, not tech 2 also. |
keepiru
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi
Originally by: Rufus Roughneck
Trained all the new skills to 5....
Right, that's not even possible.
Uh why not?
I and many other people have or will train all gunnery skills to 5...why can't you train missiles to 5?
2 Rank 5s, a rank 4 and 3 rank 2s.. i guess it would be possible to train them all to 5 since cold war... just about?
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Espen
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:45:00 -
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If you can't make ANY Caldari ships good... then.. YOU SUCK tbfh.
And if you quit, escrow all me all your stuff, pliz.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: Larts
Originally by: Kyozoku
If you think they suck so much you could try training another race instead of whining.
as i said i lost too much time to train them all to 5 and now just change race and lose another 3-4 months?
and when i say level 5 i mean bs, cruiser, frigs, indy, not tech 2 also.
on your one day old character? 
sure.
this thread is a joke, started by some bored guy as a (lame) satire on whiners i reckon. though it could just be a real whine. if so, and you really believe you suck ass that badly, come back on your main and admit it
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Larts
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:49:00 -
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tell me a caldari ship thats beter than another ship. eagle is better than deimos?, raven than megathron or apoc? lol even the phoenix is the worst DN.
and if i quit i said i give my stuff to the other guy dont ask it again... |
keepiru
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:53:00 -
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I like caldari ships, ill be happy to take em off your hands :)
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Larts
tell me a caldari ship thats beter than another ship. eagle is better than deimos?, raven than megathron or apoc? lol even the phoenix is the worst DN.
and if i quit i said i give my stuff to the other guy dont ask it again...
all the DNs suck (cept the moros)
raven is better than either mega or apoc in certain roles (BS 1v1 anyone)
harpy is quite possibly the best AF
crow is a damn good inty (wouldn't like to comment on best)
buzzard is a nice covops
manticore is best stealth bomber
kestrel is one of the best (if not the best) t1 frig
ferox is one of the better BCs (better than cyclone or brutix IMO)
blackbird is MUCH better than any other race's tier 2 crusiers (not sure about the stabber actually - never seen one in combat, but vaggies scare me)
and is there any other ship that can compete with the scorp at being called primary? (and with good reason)
that enough for you?
so, what we have discovered is that caldari are not I-WIN in all situations, and yes, the HACs DO suck. would like them fixed, but hey, i can deal with it
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2005.10.31 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: Larts
tell me a caldari ship thats beter than another ship. eagle is better than deimos?, raven than megathron or apoc? lol even the phoenix is the worst DN.
and if i quit i said i give my stuff to the other guy dont ask it again...
the ferox is better than the brutix, the harpy is better than the vengance, the crow is better than the malediction, the scorpian is better than ALL of the other bses cos it can target jam all of them.
True missiles probibly could be better, but a torp raven is still prety lethal vs another BS.
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Larts
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Posted - 2005.10.31 09:05:00 -
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as u said hac r the worst raven with missile nerf is worst again and about af maybe they r good but not that great. and HACs BSs AFs are what most people use so they can be competitive not simple cruisers and frigs. and about scorp soon you gonna change mind when EW cruisers for all races come. |
Kyoko Sakoda
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Posted - 2005.10.31 09:12:00 -
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WOW. I mean... I think that the Caldari need a slight boost, but this thread is hilarious
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Chewan Mesa
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Posted - 2005.10.31 09:15:00 -
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lol this whining is just ridiculous.
After the missle-changes, of course you cant kill an orbiting frig with 1 torp.
Thought about using assault launchers for lvl 2 missions maybe? Or drones?
Caldari ships might be harder to fly properly, but they are in NO case all rubbish.
As above posters said, they have some very decent ships, some others are not that good, agreed.
So stop the whining and train another race if you think you'll be better there...although I doubt it.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.10.31 09:17:00 -
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Originally by: Larts
as u said hac r the worst raven with missile nerf is worst again and about af maybe they r good but not that great. and HACs BSs AFs are what most people use so they can be competitive not simple cruisers and frigs. and about scorp soon you gonna change mind when EW cruisers for all races come.
so pretty much, to sum up the last few posts:
you asked a question
i answered it in detail
you picked out ONE part of my answer (the part of the answer which you agreed with) to use as proof of your point.
you then COMPLETELY ignored my comments on several ship types (and people do use t1 ships in PvP).
you completely ignored the point about the raven being BEST in at least one role, and by no means worst in several others.
after i pointed out one of the better inties in caldari, you completely omitted them from your list of common ships in PvP.
you claimed AFs are very common (less so than inties in my experience) and then ignored my comments about the harpy being one of the best ones (IMO, only the enyo is similar standard)
finally, no. i'm not going to change my mind about the scorp when t2 EW cruisers come out. first, the EW cruiser with most mids (t2 blackbird) has SEVEN. the scorp has EIGHT. not to mention that scorps have a tendency to be called primary and explode in fleets - much better a fully insurable scorp than a t2 ship, eh?
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Montolio
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Posted - 2005.10.31 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Larts
i was playing world of imbacraft but i quited cause it was exactly that imbalanced. now i come back to eve and see caldari are ruined. you all can be ironic but you all know there is a problem. well i think wow won me again. at least in that you can advance to the good races faster.
and if i eventually quit of course you can have my stuff i have no use for them, but i dont think u gonna want them they are all caldari ships...
It's funny. I had some friends playing Wow, and they were always talking about "imba". So I asked them, wtf is imba? It's a little wow-slang for imballanced (havn't heard it in any other game), right? So now you come back to Eve after Wow, because it sucks due to all the "imba" stuff, and complain about Caldari (missiles) not beeing a win-button, but much more ballanced than before? I really don't think Eve is the game for you.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.10.31 10:01:00 -
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The raven and the dominix are the two best 1v1 ships in the game.
The raven is still the best mission runner in EVE.
The scorpion's jamming is ridiculous overpowered.
And you think Caldari need a boost?!
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Knoppaz
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Posted - 2005.10.31 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Larts
kestrel is one of the best (if not the best) t1 frig
Imho the Merlin is the best t1 frig, but then again I'm a noob so I might be wrong 
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.10.31 10:46:00 -
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lol @ this thread in general. The only bad thing about caldari right now is their HACs.
Everybody is just in shock that they arent the pwnmobiles that they used to be. (what other race's large weapons hit frigs for 100% damage 100% of the time?)
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Espen
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Posted - 2005.10.31 10:53:00 -
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I'd like to see any other ship snipe like the raven. sit at 200km and hit for full damage. Yea, it takes a few sec for the missiles to reach it's target but it does like 4 times as much as any other ship sniping.
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2005.10.31 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
The raven and the dominix are the two best 1v1 ships in the game.
I'll agree about the Domi, and about the raven as far as battleships go, but the raven sucks against cruisers, HACs, assault frigs, interceptors, frigates, stealth bombers, logistics ships (lol), and destroyers. Now, vs. the frigates that might be acceptable, but vs. the cruisers and cruiser-based ships it is definitely not.
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The raven is still the best mission runner in EVE.
That one I will fully agree with. I recently tried a level 4 guristas extravaganza mission with my ac tempest and managed to pull it off but found it quite difficult. Later on, I did a level 4 angel extravaganza mission (which is more difficult than the guristas to start with) with my raven and had little trouble.
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The scorpion's jamming is ridiculous overpowered.
Now if only the scorp could break his jammed target's tank.... 
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And you think Caldari need a boost?!
Not Caldari as a whole, just the Caldari HACs and the missile damage formula in general (sig penalty is too harsh atm).
Caldari do have some excellent ships, but none of them are the type that I enjoy flying (frigs, like the kestrel, crow, and harpy, and fleet support ships like the blackbird and scorpion). Sadly, all of the larger offensive Caldari ships currently have issues.
Anyway, I see where the original poster is coming from. I think his real disgruntlement is the same as mine, since it's obvious that Caldari have several very excellent frigs (now if only I could actually find a way to enjoy flying them... :P ) but their larger attack ships are sub-par.
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2005.10.31 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Wrayeth on 31/10/2005 11:08:01
Originally by: Espen
I'd like to see any other ship snipe like the raven. sit at 200km and hit for full damage. Yea, it takes a few sec for the missiles to reach it's target but it does like 4 times as much as any other ship sniping.
You know, a lot of people talk about this, but it's really a non-point. In a real PvP situation, NO ONE is going to sit around and wait for those missiles to hit from 200km; it doesn't matter how much damage they would have done if they hit, since they won't ever reach the target in the first place. The target will have ample time to warp out before the missiles strike, meaning this ability is useless except vs. NPCs.
-Wrayeth
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