EVE Search - New drones, modules and what not

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GC13	Posted - 2005.11.01 00:52:00 - [1] /me thinks that Gallente would complain a lot less if the bonuses on their ships were instead changed to +10% thermal damage per level, and +5% other damage per level. That way, they still have the racial specialization, but their drone carriers still have a noticable leg up on non-droners in all damage types. Heck, turn that 5% for damage to 5% for everything. If you had a 0.8x dampener, at level 5 it would become a 0.75, etc... You all can do math. Also, in addition to that, leave the drone carrier ships with the same size cargo holds they have now. This way, they at least have the option of carrying drones for specific circumstances. I'd also like to echo the sentiment of "do we even HAVE a reason not to use heavies?" I suppose if you want drones that can chase down interceptors, then sure, you have a reason to use something smaller. Of course, this isn't really a new development. That, and I'd like to leave this to people with more experience with drones.
GC13 Caldari Derelik Trading Company	Posted - 2005.11.01 00:52:00 - [2] /me thinks that Gallente would complain a lot less if the bonuses on their ships were instead changed to +10% thermal damage per level, and +5% other damage per level. That way, they still have the racial specialization, but their drone carriers still have a noticable leg up on non-droners in all damage types. Heck, turn that 5% for damage to 5% for everything. If you had a 0.8x dampener, at level 5 it would become a 0.75, etc... You all can do math. Also, in addition to that, leave the drone carrier ships with the same size cargo holds they have now. This way, they at least have the option of carrying drones for specific circumstances. I'd also like to echo the sentiment of "do we even HAVE a reason not to use heavies?" I suppose if you want drones that can chase down interceptors, then sure, you have a reason to use something smaller. Of course, this isn't really a new development. That, and I'd like to leave this to people with more experience with drones. -- Science and Industry guide plus A Newbie's Guide to Caldari Ships Eve and RPG blog
GC13	Posted - 2005.11.01 14:34:00 - [3] (/me figures the odds of getting a response to this is rather low.) Tux, have you looked at the possibility of just cutting away Drone Interfacing's bonus to drones carriers, and keeping the drone carrier bonuses where they are (except for the Moros, which could be dropped to +3)? You'd still HALVE most people's potential drones, and cut away a third of the drone carriers' drones. Give them a smaller drone effectiveness bonus to compensate. Maybe even NOT halve their drone bays (cut the Dom to 500?). I dunno... It just seems wrong to have the drone carriers use the same amount of drones as everybody else. You'd still be cutting a lot of the lag caused by drones, but you'd be leaving the character of the ships, and allowing them more room to use the non-damage drones if they need to.
GC13 Caldari Derelik Trading Company	Posted - 2005.11.01 14:34:00 - [4] (/me figures the odds of getting a response to this is rather low.) Tux, have you looked at the possibility of just cutting away Drone Interfacing's bonus to drones carriers, and keeping the drone carrier bonuses where they are (except for the Moros, which could be dropped to +3)? You'd still HALVE most people's potential drones, and cut away a third of the drone carriers' drones. Give them a smaller drone effectiveness bonus to compensate. Maybe even NOT halve their drone bays (cut the Dom to 500?). I dunno... It just seems wrong to have the drone carriers use the same amount of drones as everybody else. You'd still be cutting a lot of the lag caused by drones, but you'd be leaving the character of the ships, and allowing them more room to use the non-damage drones if they need to. -- Science and Industry guide plus A Newbie's Guide to Caldari Ships Eve and RPG blog
GC13	Posted - 2005.11.02 20:05:00 - [5] Originally by: Lady Chiron Originally by: Grimpak ok I'll spam this again: and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverybody forgot about mining drones. Good point. People use 10-15 mining drones for, well, mining. What happens when they can only use 5 and there are no bonuses for them? They become absolutely useless. I could have sworn it said that Drone Interfacing would give the +20% to mining drones, in addition to drone damage. One of us obviously needs to learn how to read better. Since I'm looking at the line in the dev blog (it's in both drone entries, so just pick one) right now, it's obviously not me.
GC13 Caldari Derelik Trading Company	Posted - 2005.11.02 20:05:00 - [6] Originally by: Lady Chiron Originally by: Grimpak ok I'll spam this again: and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverybody forgot about mining drones. Good point. People use 10-15 mining drones for, well, mining. What happens when they can only use 5 and there are no bonuses for them? They become absolutely useless. I could have sworn it said that Drone Interfacing would give the +20% to mining drones, in addition to drone damage. One of us obviously needs to learn how to read better. Since I'm looking at the line in the dev blog (it's in both drone entries, so just pick one) right now, it's obviously not me. -- Science and Industry guide plus A Newbie's Guide to Caldari Ships Eve and RPG blog
GC13	Posted - 2005.11.02 20:11:00 - [7] Originally by: Porro Thats still 5 drones short. Drone interfacing gives 20% to mining, that would equal 10 mining drones at current state, not 15. And tuxford didnt forget if you read the devblog he says it felt wrong giving a battleship a mining bonus. I think. :P Originally by: Tuxford (in the new blog entry) Ships that give 1 drone per ship skill level has been changed to 10% drone damage and in some cases 10% damage (all damage types) and mining yield per level. They also get a bonus to drone hitpoints So, you know where you can stick it, right?
GC13 Caldari Derelik Trading Company	Posted - 2005.11.02 20:11:00 - [8] Originally by: Porro Thats still 5 drones short. Drone interfacing gives 20% to mining, that would equal 10 mining drones at current state, not 15. And tuxford didnt forget if you read the devblog he says it felt wrong giving a battleship a mining bonus. I think. :P Originally by: Tuxford (in the new blog entry) Ships that give 1 drone per ship skill level has been changed to 10% drone damage and in some cases 10% damage (all damage types) and mining yield per level. They also get a bonus to drone hitpoints So, you know where you can stick it, right? -- Science and Industry guide plus A Newbie's Guide to Caldari Ships Eve and RPG blog
GC13	Posted - 2005.11.02 21:55:00 - [9] Originally by: Zeddicus Zu'l I added emphasis to your quote so that you know where we are coming from. but i will spell it out too: SOME SHIPS are going to get a mining bonus as well as the damage bonus, but NOT all ships that had a +x drones controled with get that bonus. See my post above where i qouted Tuxford saying that the mining bonus on a BS is wrong, and it will never happen on the Moros Well, it seems to me like Tuxford is very well aware of the plight of battleships who use drones to mine, and is taking this opportunity to stick it to them and tell them to either stop mining or buy a mining barge. Seriously, you're at the point where you need to stop saying "don't forget about the mining battleships!" and more of a "we want to still mine in our battleships!"
GC13 Caldari Derelik Trading Company	Posted - 2005.11.02 21:55:00 - [10] Originally by: Zeddicus Zu'l I added emphasis to your quote so that you know where we are coming from. but i will spell it out too: SOME SHIPS are going to get a mining bonus as well as the damage bonus, but NOT all ships that had a +x drones controled with get that bonus. See my post above where i qouted Tuxford saying that the mining bonus on a BS is wrong, and it will never happen on the Moros Well, it seems to me like Tuxford is very well aware of the plight of battleships who use drones to mine, and is taking this opportunity to stick it to them and tell them to either stop mining or buy a mining barge. Seriously, you're at the point where you need to stop saying "don't forget about the mining battleships!" and more of a "we want to still mine in our battleships!" -- Science and Industry guide plus A Newbie's Guide to Caldari Ships Eve and RPG blog
GC13	Posted - 2005.11.02 22:09:00 - [11] Like I would know. I'm in an Osprey. Hilarious, I know.
GC13 Caldari Derelik Trading Company	Posted - 2005.11.02 22:09:00 - [12] Like I would know. I'm in an Osprey. Hilarious, I know. -- Science and Industry guide plus A Newbie's Guide to Caldari Ships Eve and RPG blog
GC13	Posted - 2005.11.19 04:11:00 - [13] You did overlook something. That level 5 Drone Interfacing that allowed you to use ten drones will now make your five drones do the damage of ten drones.
GC13 Caldari Derelik Trading Company	Posted - 2005.11.19 04:11:00 - [14] You did overlook something. That level 5 Drone Interfacing that allowed you to use ten drones will now make your five drones do the damage of ten drones. -- Science and Industry guide plus A Newbie's Guide to Caldari Ships Eve and RPG blog
GC13	Posted - 2005.11.19 21:17:00 - [15] All I can say is "it's about time." FINALLY there's a reason to use lighter drones. /me is happy!
GC13 Caldari Derelik Trading Company	Posted - 2005.11.19 21:17:00 - [16] All I can say is "it's about time." FINALLY there's a reason to use lighter drones. /me is happy! -- Science and Industry guide plus A Newbie's Guide to Caldari Ships Eve and RPG blog
GC13	Posted - 2005.11.23 01:58:00 - [17] Pardon me if this has already been answered, Tux, but are you still going to need Drones 5 to start on Drone Interfacing?
GC13 Caldari Derelik Trading Company	Posted - 2005.11.23 01:58:00 - [18] Pardon me if this has already been answered, Tux, but are you still going to need Drones 5 to start on Drone Interfacing? -- Science and Industry guide plus A Newbie's Guide to Caldari Ships Eve and RPG blog
GC13	Posted - 2005.11.25 16:55:00 - [19] Originally by: Valanth And what about looting drones? Will there be any? WE NEED LOOTING DRONES! cough Er, sorry about the shouting. But we do need them.
GC13 Caldari Derelik Trading Company	Posted - 2005.11.25 16:55:00 - [20] Originally by: Valanth And what about looting drones? Will there be any? WE NEED LOOTING DRONES! cough Er, sorry about the shouting. But we do need them. -- Science and Industry guide plus A Newbie's Guide to Caldari Ships Eve and RPG blog

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