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Tuxford	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:13:00 - [1] I guess there is no need to remind you that these are all first numbers and will be tweaked a bit before they go live. I'm also rather interested to see how the tracking disrupting drones and sensor dampening work once the new stacking penalty comes in EWAR drones They all come in 3 sizes, small, medium and large. The small one being 5m^3, medium 10m^3 and large 25m^3. Jamming drones duration \| falloff \| range \| strength ----------------------------------------- large \| 5 \| 10 000 \| 10 000 \| 1.5 \| medium \| 5 \| 7 500 \| 7 500 \| 0.65 \| small \| 5 \| 5 000 \| 5 000 \| 0.3 \| ----------------------------------------- Sensor dampening drones duration \| falloff \| range \| targ range mult \| scan res mult ----------------------------------------------------------------- large \| 5 \| 10 000 \| 10 000 \| 0.75 \| 0.75 \| medium \| 5 \| 7 500 \| 7 500 \| 0.88 \| 0.88 \| small \| 5 \| 5 000 \| 5 000 \| 0.95 \| 0.95 \| ----------------------------------------------------------------- Tracking disrupting drones duration \| falloff \| range \| max range mult \| tracking mult ----------------------------------------------------------------- large \| 5 \| 10 000 \| 10 000 \| 0.75 \| 0.75 \| medium \| 5 \| 7 500 \| 7 500 \| 0.88 \| 0.88 \| small \| 5 \| 5 000 \| 5 000 \| 0.95 \| 0.95 \| ----------------------------------------------------------------- Target painting duration \| falloff \| range \| sig radius bonus ------------------------------------------------- large \| 5 \| 10 000 \| 10 000 \| 20 \| medium \| 5 \| 7 500 \| 7 500 \| 8 \| small \| 5 \| 5 000 \| 5 000 \| 4 \| ------------------------------------------------- Webifying drones duration \| range \| speed bonus ---------------------------------- large \| 5 \| 10 000 \| -40 \| medium \| 5 \| 7 500 \| -20 \| small \| 5 \| 5 000 \| -10 \| ---------------------------------- Cap draining drones duration \| range \| energy trans ---------------------------------- large \| 6 \| 10 000 \| 30 \| medium \| 6 \| 7 500 \| 12 \| small \| 6 \| 5 000 \| 6 \| ---------------------------------- _______________


Tuxford	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:13:00 - [2] Sentry Drones duration \| opt range \| falloff \| tracking --------------------------------------------- amarr \| 2 \| 30 000 \| 10 000 \| 0.016 \| caldari \| 2 \| 50 000 \| 25 000 \| 0.010 \| gallente \| 2 \| 20 000 \| 10 000 \| 0.030 \| minmatar \| 2 \| 40 000 \| 35 000 \| 0.010 \| --------------------------------------------- damage mult \| damage (50) ---------------------------- amarr \| 1.3 \| Em \| caldari \| 1.2 \| Kinetic \| gallente \| 1.6 \| Thermal \| minmatar \| 1.4 \| Explosive \| ---------------------------- Logistic Drones Armor repairing drones duration \| range \| armor repair ---------------------------------- large \| 10 \| 10 000 \| 120 \| medium \| 10 \| 7 500 \| 48 \| small \| 10 \| 5 000 \| 24 \| ---------------------------------- Shield transporting drones duration \| range \| shield boost ---------------------------------- large \| 5 \| 10 000 \| 60 \| medium \| 5 \| 7 500 \| 24 \| small \| 5 \| 5 000 \| 12 \| ---------------------------------- _______________


Tuxford	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:13:00 - [3] Read this first then this I'm changing the racial damage bonus to all damage types. I guess there is no need to remind you that these are all first numbers and will be tweaked a bit before they go live. I'm also rather interested to see how the tracking disrupting drones and sensor dampening work once the new stacking penalty comes in EWAR drones They all come in 3 sizes, small, medium and large. The small one being 5m^3, medium 10m^3 and large 25m^3. Jamming drones duration \| falloff \| range \| strength ----------------------------------------- large \| 5 \| 10 000 \| 10 000 \| 1.5 \| medium \| 5 \| 7 500 \| 7 500 \| 0.65 \| small \| 5 \| 5 000 \| 5 000 \| 0.3 \| ----------------------------------------- Sensor dampening drones duration \| falloff \| range \| targ range mult \| scan res mult ----------------------------------------------------------------- large \| 5 \| 10 000 \| 10 000 \| 0.75 \| 0.75 \| medium \| 5 \| 7 500 \| 7 500 \| 0.88 \| 0.88 \| small \| 5 \| 5 000 \| 5 000 \| 0.95 \| 0.95 \| ----------------------------------------------------------------- Tracking disrupting drones duration \| falloff \| range \| max range mult \| tracking mult ----------------------------------------------------------------- large \| 5 \| 10 000 \| 10 000 \| 0.75 \| 0.75 \| medium \| 5 \| 7 500 \| 7 500 \| 0.88 \| 0.88 \| small \| 5 \| 5 000 \| 5 000 \| 0.95 \| 0.95 \| ----------------------------------------------------------------- Target painting duration \| falloff \| range \| sig radius bonus ------------------------------------------------- large \| 5 \| 10 000 \| 10 000 \| 20 \| medium \| 5 \| 7 500 \| 7 500 \| 8 \| small \| 5 \| 5 000 \| 5 000 \| 4 \| ------------------------------------------------- Webifying drones duration \| range \| speed bonus ---------------------------------- large \| 5 \| 10 000 \| -40 \| medium \| 5 \| 7 500 \| -20 \| small \| 5 \| 5 000 \| -10 \| ---------------------------------- Cap draining drones duration \| range \| energy trans ---------------------------------- large \| 6 \| 10 000 \| 25 \| medium \| 6 \| 7 500 \| 10 \| small \| 6 \| 5 000 \| 5 \| ---------------------------------- _______________


Tuxford	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:13:00 - [4] Sentry Drones duration \| opt range \| falloff \| tracking --------------------------------------------- amarr \| 4 \| 30 000 \| 10 000 \| 0.016 \| caldari \| 4 \| 50 000 \| 25 000 \| 0.010 \| gallente \| 4 \| 20 000 \| 10 000 \| 0.030 \| minmatar \| 4 \| 40 000 \| 35 000 \| 0.010 \| --------------------------------------------- damage mult \| damage (50) ---------------------------- amarr \| 1.3 \| Em \| caldari \| 1.2 \| Kinetic \| gallente \| 1.6 \| Thermal \| minmatar \| 1.4 \| Explosive \| ---------------------------- Logistic Drones Armor repairing drones duration \| range \| armor repair ---------------------------------- large \| 10 \| 10 000 \| 120 \| medium \| 10 \| 7 500 \| 48 \| small \| 10 \| 5 000 \| 24 \| ---------------------------------- Shield transporting drones duration \| range \| shield boost ---------------------------------- large \| 5 \| 10 000 \| 60 \| medium \| 5 \| 7 500 \| 24 \| small \| 5 \| 5 000 \| 12 \| ---------------------------------- Modules Drone Control range - Increases drone control range by 20km, high slot Drone Control Unit - +1 drone, max 5 units, high slot, cpu intensive Drone Damage mod - Extra damage to all combat drones, low slot Drone Navigation Computer - Increases MWD speed of drones, med slot Drone Tracking modules - Increases trackinga and max range of drones, med slot _______________

Farjung	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:18:00 - [5] Oh my god. Gankgeddon gets EW ¼_¼ This is going to change everything... not sure if that's good or bad yet.
Farjung Gallente TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:18:00 - [6] Edited by: Farjung on 31/10/2005 14:22:49 Oh my god. Gankgeddon gets EW ¼_¼ This is going to change everything... not sure if that's good or bad yet. Edit: could you elaborate a bit more on sentry drones? Are they large? Edit #2: reading related blog before posting might help, oops --- Wave of Mutilation 2
DrunkenOne	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:22:00 - [7] Edited by: DrunkenOne on 31/10/2005 14:23:13 Well here we have it, the end of eve. Forget fitting a tank when you can just have 6+ EW drones to make sure your opponent never shoots you, and then you can fit full gank. Cosmic Fusion KB
DrunkenOne Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:22:00 - [8] Edited by: DrunkenOne on 31/10/2005 14:23:13 Well here we have it, the end of eve. Forget fitting a tank when you can just have 6+ EW drones to make sure your opponent never shoots you, and then you can fit full gank. Please resize your signature graphic to be smaller than 24,000 bytes in filesize - Jacques
Jon Xylur	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:23:00 - [9] Wooh! Domi's gonna rock now! Thank you CCP! No Gallente pilot will whine about the nerfing of the Rax anymore. Gankageddon beware, here comes Uberdomi!
Jon Xylur Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:23:00 - [10] Wooh! Domi's gonna rock now! Thank you CCP! No Gallente pilot will whine about the nerfing of the Rax anymore. Gankageddon beware, here comes Uberdomi! Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, and not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
elFarto	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:25:00 - [11] Cool, one question, will the shield and armour drones work on yourself? or just other people? Regards elFarto Stratego > 2005.10.22 14:15:17 combat Imperium Alliance petitions you, glancing off causing no real damage.
elFarto New Order Industries	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:25:00 - [12] Edited by: elFarto on 31/10/2005 14:54:18 Edited by: elFarto on 31/10/2005 14:37:16 Cool, one question, will the shield and armour drones work on yourself? or just other people? edit question 2, how big in m3 are the sentry drones? 25m3? Regards elFarto NPC database Mal: This is your captain speaking. We're having some technical difficulties, so we may experience some turbulence, and then explode.
Pirahna Joe	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:27:00 - [13] Originally by: Jon Xylur Wooh! Domi's gonna rock now! Thank you CCP! No Gallente pilot will whine about the nerfing of the Rax anymore. Gankageddon beware, here comes Uberdomi! Uberdomi with 5 Drones ! LOL go reqd dev blog before wet your self
Pirahna Joe	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:27:00 - [14] Originally by: Jon Xylur Wooh! Domi's gonna rock now! Thank you CCP! No Gallente pilot will whine about the nerfing of the Rax anymore. Gankageddon beware, here comes Uberdomi! Uberdomi with 5 Drones ! LOL go reqd dev blog before wet your self
Nafri	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:29:00 - [15] bad, simply bad drones are a failure in itself since thy dont require PG/CPU and Cap to operate. Its awfull enough that thy actually do damage, but giving them the possibility to do everything in this game is just wrong. If there is any reason for this, please tell me, I cant see the point to make the imbalanced drone ships more imbalanced yet... It also makes the arbitor an even stronger EW ship as it will be in mk2 anyway... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Put your panties on your head!
Nafri Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:29:00 - [16] bad, simply bad drones are a failure in itself since thy dont require PG/CPU and Cap to operate. Its awfull enough that thy actually do damage, but giving them the possibility to do everything in this game is just wrong. If there is any reason for this, please tell me, I cant see the point to make the imbalanced drone ships more imbalanced yet... It also makes the arbitor an even stronger EW ship as it will be in mk2 anyway... From Dusk till Dawn
Thomus	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:30:00 - [17] all i can say is... woooooooooooooooot! ---------------- Tom
Thomus Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:30:00 - [18] all i can say is... woooooooooooooooot! This person is no longer on the forums. Please eve-mail in game if you want to communicate with him. - WOW! A mod-made sig... TX.
Nafri	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:33:00 - [19] Originally by: Pirahna Joe Originally by: Jon Xylur Wooh! Domi's gonna rock now! Thank you CCP! No Gallente pilot will whine about the nerfing of the Rax anymore. Gankageddon beware, here comes Uberdomi! Uberdomi with 5 Drones ! LOL go reqd dev blog before wet your self Will still do the same damage... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Put your panties on your head!
Nafri Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:33:00 - [20] Originally by: Pirahna Joe Originally by: Jon Xylur Wooh! Domi's gonna rock now! Thank you CCP! No Gallente pilot will whine about the nerfing of the Rax anymore. Gankageddon beware, here comes Uberdomi! Uberdomi with 5 Drones ! LOL go reqd dev blog before wet your self Will still do the same damage... From Dusk till Dawn
DrunkenOne	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:34:00 - [21] Hi, I'm a taranis with 3 small jamming/webbing/tracking disrupting/nossing drones. I am not overpowered at all compared to other intys. Oh well good thing I fly taraniseseses. Cosmic Fusion KB
DrunkenOne Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:34:00 - [22] Hi, I'm a taranis with 3 small jamming/webbing/tracking disrupting/nossing drones. I am not overpowered at all compared to other intys. Oh well good thing I fly taraniseseses. Please resize your signature graphic to be smaller than 24,000 bytes in filesize - Jacques
Istmar Hi'ma	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:35:00 - [23] Edited by: Istmar Hi''ma on 31/10/2005 14:35:07 Tuxford, what in Tomb's hell are you doing? These new drones will make Gals the end all of ships period. Sure other ship can use drones, but not as effective as a Gal ship. The Domi is already the "Do Almost Everything Ship," now (with these changes) it really will be the "Do Everything Ship." Oh man, just think of the Moa with its +5 drone bonus...The end of Eve is at hand!
Istmar Hi'ma	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:35:00 - [24] Edited by: Istmar Hi''ma on 31/10/2005 14:35:07 Tuxford, what in Tomb's hell are you doing? These new drones will make Gals the end all of ships period. Sure other ship can use drones, but not as effective as a Gal ship. The Domi is already the "Do Almost Everything Ship," now (with these changes) it really will be the "Do Everything Ship." Oh man, just think of the Moa with its +5 drone bonus...The end of Eve is at hand!
dabster	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:36:00 - [25] Ishkur uber alles. Meh the more i think about it the more convinced i get this is way overpowering drones. ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
dabster Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:36:00 - [26] Ishkur uber alles. Meh the more i think about it the more convinced i get this is way overpowering drones. ___________________________ Trust In Rust!
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:37:00 - [27] Edited by: Grimpak on 31/10/2005 14:38:40 imho, reduce the EW strength of the Ewar drones, and maintain the drone bonus of the vexor/GN vexor/arbitrator/ishtar/dominix. Removing the drone control bonus from them kinda kills the entire Drone Boat thing. That said, another kind of nerf or boost or whatever, could be implemented, for example, you can launch 10 drones, but you are restricted by skill to launch a maximum of 5 EW drones. ...maybe a skill for each field? something like "sensor linking drone interface" skill or "electronic countermeasures drone interface" skill they would require drone interface 4, and would be a rank4/5 skill or so. Also restricting the damage to thermal seems kinda harsh. Oh and low the drone interface requirements to drone 4 too. And finally, the light drone damage issue. Can it be done in the way that 2 light drones damage > 1 medium drone damage? Like that it would be viable to use light drones over mediums, but still 5 medium drones damage > 5 light drones damage. (the above light drone boost idea is not mine btw) EDIT: what about the mining drones? 5 T2 mining drones are kinda pathetic, when compared with a single T2 miner afaik? Don't know the calculations. Can someone do it for me? ------------------- Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you
Grimpak Gallente Twisted Attitude Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:37:00 - [28] Edited by: Grimpak on 31/10/2005 14:38:40 imho, reduce the EW strength of the Ewar drones, and maintain the drone bonus of the vexor/GN vexor/arbitrator/ishtar/dominix. Removing the drone control bonus from them kinda kills the entire Drone Boat thing. That said, another kind of nerf or boost or whatever, could be implemented, for example, you can launch 10 drones, but you are restricted by skill to launch a maximum of 5 EW drones. ...maybe a skill for each field? something like "sensor linking drone interface" skill or "electronic countermeasures drone interface" skill they would require drone interface 4, and would be a rank4/5 skill or so. Also restricting the damage to thermal seems kinda harsh. Oh and low the drone interface requirements to drone 4 too. And finally, the light drone damage issue. Can it be done in the way that 2 light drones damage > 1 medium drone damage? Like that it would be viable to use light drones over mediums, but still 5 medium drones damage > 5 light drones damage. (the above light drone boost idea is not mine btw) EDIT: what about the mining drones? 5 T2 mining drones are kinda pathetic, when compared with a single T2 miner afaik? Don't know the calculations. Can someone do it for me? ------- Originally by: Tiuwaz for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons
Demon Johnson	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:38:00 - [29] Hmm...love it. But i don¯t like the "thermal only" bonus. On the otrher hand: If the vexor and the domi can hold more than 5 medium/large drones in their bay, they can switch between EWAR and damage drone. Old man says: You don¦t win a war with hundreds of TL2 items. You win it with millions of tritanium and pyrite.
Forsch	Posted - 2005.10.31 14:38:00 - [30] With the reduction to 5 drones per ship, smartbombs will be even less used than they are today. (Would be interesting to see from the stats how many ships have smartbombs fitted and are using them.) Will smartbombs get an improvement with this drone change? Maybe give them their supposed 'smartness' so they can be used in empire, too. An idea would be to add a smartbomb that puts out a shockwave that disables drones (for a while) because killing them doesn't seem very effective anymore (with smartbombs). The Auctoritan Syndicate Defenders of the Empire - Curatores Veritatis Alliance

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