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Demon Johnson
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:38:00 - [31]

Hmm...love it.
But i don¯t like the "thermal only" bonus.

On the otrher hand: If the vexor and the domi can hold more than 5 medium/large drones in their bay, they can switch between EWAR and damage drone.




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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:38:00 - [32]

With the reduction to 5 drones per ship, smartbombs will be even less used than they are today.
(Would be interesting to see from the stats how many ships have smartbombs fitted and are using them.)

Will smartbombs get an improvement with this drone change? Maybe give them their supposed 'smartness' so they can be used in empire, too.
An idea would be to add a smartbomb that puts out a shockwave that disables drones (for a while) because killing them doesn't seem very effective anymore (with smartbombs).

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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:39:00 - [33]

What about typhoon ?

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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:39:00 - [34]

Also, LOL

Sentry drones

They anchor down when you launch them, have very high range, poor tracking, many hitpoints and are large. They come in four flavors.

* Amarr sentry drone - good tracking, decent optimal range, fair damage, small falloff
* Caldari sentry drone - decent tracking, high optimal range, lowest damage, decent falloff
* Gallente sentry drone - good tracking, low optimal range, highest damage, ok falloff
* Minmatar sentry drone - poor tracking, good optimal range, second lowest damage, great falloff

So minmatar have the worst tracking and 2nd worst damage in exchange for extra range? And on top of that, in general sentry guns are a noobish gate campers wet dream.
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Nul'taar Shalrac
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:39:00 - [35]

Edited by: Nul''taar Shalrac on 31/10/2005 14:40:34
Got to remeber dronebays are getting halfed from there current size, plus ships + max number of drones in space are 5, drone ships give damage boost to drones

edit,got beaten to it..
DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:39:00 - [36]

Also, LOL

Sentry drones

They anchor down when you launch them, have very high range, poor tracking, many hitpoints and are large. They come in four flavors.

* Amarr sentry drone - good tracking, decent optimal range, fair damage, small falloff
* Caldari sentry drone - decent tracking, high optimal range, lowest damage, decent falloff
* Gallente sentry drone - good tracking, low optimal range, highest damage, ok falloff
* Minmatar sentry drone - poor tracking, good optimal range, second lowest damage, great falloff

So minmatar have the worst tracking and 2nd worst damage in exchange for extra range? And on top of that, in general sentry guns are a noobish gate campers wet dream.
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:39:00 - [37]

Edited by: Nul''taar Shalrac on 31/10/2005 14:40:34
Got to remeber dronebays are getting halfed from there current size, plus ships + max number of drones in space are 5, drone ships give damage boost to drones

edit,got beaten to it..
Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:39:00 - [38]

What about typhoon ?

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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:40:00 - [39]

Originally by: DrunkenOne
Edited by: DrunkenOne on 31/10/2005 14:23:13
Well here we have it, the end of eve. Forget fitting a tank when you can just have 6+ EW drones to make sure your opponent never shoots you, and then you can fit full gank.

Sad

6+ EW drones is hax





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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:40:00 - [40]

Originally by: DrunkenOne
Edited by: DrunkenOne on 31/10/2005 14:23:13
Well here we have it, the end of eve. Forget fitting a tank when you can just have 6+ EW drones to make sure your opponent never shoots you, and then you can fit full gank.

Sad

6+ EW drones is hax


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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:41:00 - [41]

OMG??!?!?!!!
WHY ARE THERE NO SCRAMBLER DRONES??!?!?!!!!!!


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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:41:00 - [42]

OMG??!?!?!!!
WHY ARE THERE NO SCRAMBLER DRONES??!?!?!!!!!!

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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:42:00 - [43]

Originally by: TomB
Originally by: DrunkenOne
Edited by: DrunkenOne on 31/10/2005 14:23:13
Well here we have it, the end of eve. Forget fitting a tank when you can just have 6+ EW drones to make sure your opponent never shoots you, and then you can fit full gank.

Sad

6+ EW drones is hax

true, i forgot drone bays are getting halfed. But does that mean a ship like a taranis's dronebay is getting halfed? How many drones will it be able to use? Any of the EW drones, used by a taranis, in infinitely more powerful than using a light drone.
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:42:00 - [44]

this is gonna WAY imbalance things. This is like handing every pilot that carries drones a big handful of EW. Tackling drones FTW do I hear you cry?

Its like giving everyone a big percentage lower resistance to EW. (extra firepower with no tradeoff basically).

Nah, If drones come in like this, I may be outta here.
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:42:00 - [45]

Originally by: TomB
Originally by: DrunkenOne
Edited by: DrunkenOne on 31/10/2005 14:23:13
Well here we have it, the end of eve. Forget fitting a tank when you can just have 6+ EW drones to make sure your opponent never shoots you, and then you can fit full gank.

Sad

6+ EW drones is hax

true, i forgot drone bays are getting halfed. But does that mean a ship like a taranis's dronebay is getting halfed? How many drones will it be able to use? Any of the EW drones, used by a taranis, in infinitely more powerful than using a light drone.
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:42:00 - [46]

this is gonna WAY imbalance things. This is like handing every pilot that carries drones a big handful of EW. Tackling drones FTW do I hear you cry?

Its like giving everyone a big percentage lower resistance to EW. (extra firepower with no tradeoff basically).

Nah, If drones come in like this, I may be outta here.
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:43:00 - [47]

Edited by: Farjung on 31/10/2005 14:44:11
This could be insane... so a domi under this new system could carry 15 large drones yeah? So theoretically, it could wander around with say, nos, tank and a bunch of caldari racials in its midslots, 5 tracking disrupting drones (or 4 and a webifying drone depending on how the new stacking penalty comes in to play), 5 damage dealing drones, 5 damping drones. If it ran into a caldari bs it'd be fine because of ECM, if it ran into a turret bs it could suck away with its nos while the tracking disruptor drones reduced the target's dps hugely, and once the target's out of cap could switch to damage drones to get the techincality of blowing the ship up out of the way, if it ran into an inty gang it could damp half of them while nossing the rest.

It'll add a whole new level of complexity to combat, seems very interesting. I can't see how it won't make drone boats completely overpowered though ¼_¼.
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:43:00 - [48]

Im a Gallente drone swarmer and even I fail to see how this could possibly benefit the fun of PvP.

Armour/Shield rep'ing drones good idea.

EW drones... no no.

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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:43:00 - [49]

Edited by: Farjung on 31/10/2005 14:44:11
This could be insane... so a domi under this new system could carry 15 large drones yeah? So theoretically, it could wander around with say, nos, tank and a bunch of caldari racials in its midslots, 5 tracking disrupting drones (or 4 and a webifying drone depending on how the new stacking penalty comes in to play), 5 damage dealing drones, 5 damping drones. If it ran into a caldari bs it'd be fine because of ECM, if it ran into a turret bs it could suck away with its nos while the tracking disruptor drones reduced the target's dps hugely, and once the target's out of cap could switch to damage drones to get the techincality of blowing the ship up out of the way, if it ran into an inty gang it could damp half of them while nossing the rest.

It'll add a whole new level of complexity to combat, seems very interesting. I can't see how it won't make drone boats completely overpowered though ¼_¼.
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:43:00 - [50]

Im a Gallente drone swarmer and even I fail to see how this could possibly benefit the fun of PvP.

Armour/Shield rep'ing drones good idea.

EW drones... no no.

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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:46:00 - [51]

Edited by: elFarto on 31/10/2005 14:46:38
Originally by: Farjung
This could be insane... so a domi under this new system could carry 15 large drones yeah?


No, all ships are being limited to 5 drones.

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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:46:00 - [52]

Originally by: Farjung
This could be insane... so a domi under this new system could carry 15 large drones yeah? So theoretically, it could wander around with say, nos, tank and a bunch of caldari racials in its midslots, 5 tracking disrupting drones (or 4 and a webifying drone depending on how the new stacking penalty comes in to play), 10 damage dealing drones. If it ran into a caldari bs it'd be fine because of ECM, if it ran into a turret bs it could suck away with its nos while the tracking disruptor drones reduced the target's dps hugely, and once the target's out of cap could switch to damage drones to get the techincality of blowing the ship up out of the way.

It'll add a whole new level of complexity to combat, seems very interesting. I can't see how it won't make drone boats completely overpowered though ¼_¼.

You can start by reading the blog.

As it is now 5 heavy ewar drones are not even as effective a single EWAR drone module, I fail to see how that will make drone ships totally overpowered. Also drones have the tendancy to die and when they do they're not very useful at all.
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:46:00 - [53]

Originally by: Farjung
This could be insane... so a domi under this new system could carry 15 large drones yeah? So theoretically, it could wander around with say, nos, tank and a bunch of caldari racials in its midslots, 5 tracking disrupting drones (or 4 and a webifying drone depending on how the new stacking penalty comes in to play), 10 damage dealing drones. If it ran into a caldari bs it'd be fine because of ECM, if it ran into a turret bs it could suck away with its nos while the tracking disruptor drones reduced the target's dps hugely, and once the target's out of cap could switch to damage drones to get the techincality of blowing the ship up out of the way.

It'll add a whole new level of complexity to combat, seems very interesting. I can't see how it won't make drone boats completely overpowered though ¼_¼.

You can start by reading the blog.

As it is now 5 heavy ewar drones are not even as effective a single EWAR drone module, I fail to see how that will make drone ships totally overpowered. Also drones have the tendancy to die and when they do they're not very useful at all.
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:46:00 - [54]

Edited by: elFarto on 31/10/2005 14:46:38
Originally by: Farjung
This could be insane... so a domi under this new system could carry 15 large drones yeah?


No, all ships are being limited to 5 drones.

*edit* pwned by a dev Sad

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Demon Johnson
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:47:00 - [55]

They said all drone bays will be reduced. So a Domi might be able to hold 7 drones or so max.


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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:47:00 - [56]

Edited by: Demon Johnson on 31/10/2005 14:50:26
They said all drone bays will be reduced. So a Domi might be able to hold 7 drones or so max.

EDIT: Ah, found it in the blog: "# Drone bays reduced to half of what they are today"


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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:48:00 - [57]

Originally by: Tuxford
As it is now 5 heavy ewar drones are not even as effective a single EWAR drone module, I fail to see how that will make drone ships totally overpowered. Also drones have the tendancy to die and when they do they're not very useful at all.


Since I haven't really thought through this yet, all I'll say is: could we please get ECCM modules that work again? Before we add more ECM into the game? Very Happy
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:48:00 - [58]

Originally by: Tuxford
As it is now 5 heavy ewar drones are not even as effective a single EWAR drone module, I fail to see how that will make drone ships totally overpowered. Also drones have the tendancy to die and when they do they're not very useful at all.


Since I haven't really thought through this yet, all I'll say is: could we please get ECCM modules that work again? Before we add more ECM into the game? Very Happy
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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:50:00 - [59]

Edited by: Khaldorn Murino on 31/10/2005 14:51:34
Minmatar moan ahead! But a good one.

OK, firstly confused

* Caldari sentry drone - decent tracking, lowest damage
* Minmatar sentry drone - poor tracking, second lowest damage

duration | opt range | falloff | tracking
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caldari | 2 | 50 000 | 25 000 | 0.010 |
minmatar | 2 | 40 000 | 35 000 | 0.010 |
---------------------------------------------

Im assuming a typo Tux old chap?

Assuming so. Doesnt it work out we get the lowest damage of all then, because tracking effects damage greatly? So if we have the lowest tracking, and the secound lowest damage, then minmatars effectively have the lowest damage of all. In return for a great range? On a anchorable drone?

EDIT: hang on, same range as caldari one in the end, just more falloff, which futher decreases damage..

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Posted - 2005.10.31 14:52:00 - [60]

Edited by: DarK on 31/10/2005 14:52:44
doh, should read devblog.
   
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