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Shinca
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Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author 		Posted - 2005.11.23 19:48:00 - [1]
OK, won't go into arguing about what is and what is not equevalent of what... But here is a table of damage values for ships with can fit 10, 8 or 6 drones in the bay. First column is now, second is the +20% damage per DI level, third is your proposal for flat +60% damage increase and +5% per DI level:


Ship with max 10 drones / max 5 drones in future

 lvl now to be proposed (60% + 5% per DI lvl)
D 1 1 1 1*1.6 =1.6
D 2 2 2 2*1.6 =3.2
D 3 3 3 3*1.6 =4.8 
D 4 4 4 4*1.6 =6.4
D 5 5 5 5*1.6 =8.0
DI 1 6 5*1.2= 6 5*1.6*1.05=8.4
DI 2 7 5*1.4= 7 5*1.6*1.10=8.8
DI 3 8 5*1.6= 8 5*1.6*1.15=9.2
DI 4 9 5*1.8= 9 5*1.6*1.20=9.6
DI 5 10 5*2.0=10 5*1.6*1.25=10


Ship with max 8 drones / max 4 drones in future

 lvl now to be proposed (60% + 5% per DI lvl)
D 1 1 1 1*1.6 =1.6
D 2 2 2 2*1.6 =3.2
D 3 3 3 3*1.6 =4.8 
D 4 4 4 4*1.6 =6.4
D 5 5 4 4*1.6 =6.4
DI 1 6 4*1.2=4.8 4*1.6*1.05=6.72
DI 2 7 4*1.4=5.6 4*1.6*1.10=7.04
DI 3 8 4*1.6=5.4 4*1.6*1.15=7.36
DI 4 8 4*1.8=7.2 4*1.6*1.20=7.68
DI 5 8 4*2.0=8 4*1.6*1.25=8


Ship with max 6 drones / max 3 drones in future

 lvl now to be proposed (60% + 5% per DI lvl)
D 1 1 1 1*1.6 =1.6
D 2 2 2 2*1.6 =3.2
D 3 3 3 3*1.6 =4.8 
D 4 4 3 3*1.6 =4.8
D 5 5 3 3*1.6 =4.8
DI 1 6 3*1.2=3.6 3*1.6*1.05=5.04
DI 2 6 3*1.4=4.2 3*1.6*1.10=5.28
DI 3 6 3*1.6=4.8 3*1.6*1.15=5.52
DI 4 6 3*1.8=5.4 3*1.6*1.20=5.76
DI 5 6 3*2.0=6 3*1.6*1.25=6


Now there are pluses and minuses for all versions. But for your version there would be little point for a pilot of a 3 drone ship to train drones higher than to level 3. Perhaps even to train higher than 4 if you can only fit 4 drones...

The only thing that would "force" someone to train the skills would be the new drone skills.

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Shinca
Shinca

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author 		Posted - 2005.11.23 19:48:00 - [2]
OK, won't go into arguing about what is and what is not equevalent of what... But here is a table of damage values for ships with can fit 10, 8 or 6 drones in the bay. First column is now, second is the +20% damage per DI level, third is your proposal for flat +60% damage increase and +5% per DI level:


Ship with max 10 drones / max 5 drones in future

 lvl now to be proposed (60% + 5% per DI lvl)
D 1 1 1 1*1.6 =1.6
D 2 2 2 2*1.6 =3.2
D 3 3 3 3*1.6 =4.8 
D 4 4 4 4*1.6 =6.4
D 5 5 5 5*1.6 =8.0
DI 1 6 5*1.2= 6 5*1.6*1.05=8.4
DI 2 7 5*1.4= 7 5*1.6*1.10=8.8
DI 3 8 5*1.6= 8 5*1.6*1.15=9.2
DI 4 9 5*1.8= 9 5*1.6*1.20=9.6
DI 5 10 5*2.0=10 5*1.6*1.25=10


Ship with max 8 drones / max 4 drones in future

 lvl now to be proposed (60% + 5% per DI lvl)
D 1 1 1 1*1.6 =1.6
D 2 2 2 2*1.6 =3.2
D 3 3 3 3*1.6 =4.8 
D 4 4 4 4*1.6 =6.4
D 5 5 4 4*1.6 =6.4
DI 1 6 4*1.2=4.8 4*1.6*1.05=6.72
DI 2 7 4*1.4=5.6 4*1.6*1.10=7.04
DI 3 8 4*1.6=5.4 4*1.6*1.15=7.36
DI 4 8 4*1.8=7.2 4*1.6*1.20=7.68
DI 5 8 4*2.0=8 4*1.6*1.25=8


Ship with max 6 drones / max 3 drones in future

 lvl now to be proposed (60% + 5% per DI lvl)
D 1 1 1 1*1.6 =1.6
D 2 2 2 2*1.6 =3.2
D 3 3 3 3*1.6 =4.8 
D 4 4 3 3*1.6 =4.8
D 5 5 3 3*1.6 =4.8
DI 1 6 3*1.2=3.6 3*1.6*1.05=5.04
DI 2 6 3*1.4=4.2 3*1.6*1.10=5.28
DI 3 6 3*1.6=4.8 3*1.6*1.15=5.52
DI 4 6 3*1.8=5.4 3*1.6*1.20=5.76
DI 5 6 3*2.0=6 3*1.6*1.25=6


Now there are pluses and minuses for all versions. But for your version there would be little point for a pilot of a 3 drone ship to train drones higher than to level 3. Perhaps even to train higher than 4 if you can only fit 4 drones...

The only thing that would "force" someone to train the skills would be the new drone skills.

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Shinca
Shinca

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author 		Posted - 2005.11.26 18:00:00 - [3]
I was thinking abut this +1 drone high slot module and it seems strange to first reduce number of drones and then add possibility of more drones per ship in space

what could perhaps work better would be a module that would link with a drone in space and control it - that would make things much easier for drone users and would make this modules sort of like guns with drone as ammo... to tell drone to attack someone/something you would press the Fx button, press again and drone stops the attack

it could give the drone some shield and/or armor boost and some damage boost (to compensate for the loss of a gun since you are usinig high slot)

it could also give the drone an external anchor to hold on to while not running around (read: give +1 drone bay space for each high slot module)

there could be frig, cruiser and BS sized modules, which would work only with correct size drones

there could also be different modules, giving different boost to drones - one could give more speed and range (long range "drone gun"), another more dmg and sheild/armor (short range "drone gun")

only thing is that there would be no point in using more than 5 of the modules since that would be max number of drones in space at any time

not sure if there should be any limit to how many modules you can fit (like there are for turrets and launchers)

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Shinca
Shinca

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author 		Posted - 2005.11.26 18:00:00 - [4]
I was thinking abut this +1 drone high slot module and it seems strange to first reduce number of drones and then add possibility of more drones per ship in space

what could perhaps work better would be a module that would link with a drone in space and control it - that would make things much easier for drone users and would make this modules sort of like guns with drone as ammo... to tell drone to attack someone/something you would press the Fx button, press again and drone stops the attack

it could give the drone some shield and/or armor boost and some damage boost (to compensate for the loss of a gun since you are usinig high slot)

it could also give the drone an external anchor to hold on to while not running around (read: give +1 drone bay space for each high slot module)

there could be frig, cruiser and BS sized modules, which would work only with correct size drones

there could also be different modules, giving different boost to drones - one could give more speed and range (long range "drone gun"), another more dmg and sheild/armor (short range "drone gun")

only thing is that there would be no point in using more than 5 of the modules since that would be max number of drones in space at any time

not sure if there should be any limit to how many modules you can fit (like there are for turrets and launchers)

clones are people two

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