EVE Search - New drones, modules and what not

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keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2005.10.31 16:30:00 - [1] Ohmygod, i leave for 3 hours and all hell breaks loose. Bad tux. Single-damage-type bonuses suck... sweaty simian reproductive organs >.>;; Ive said about caldari ships, and about the missile frigs, and the (lol) helios, and now ill say it about all the droneships. Please god no no no no, dont do the "we'll limit you to one damage type kthnx" game. Get rid of them on drone ships, get rid of them on all ships. And yes, -50% is even worse than 25% dmg bonus to one missile type. I didnt think you could thinkup a worse bonus, but you did. Well done, its downright horrible :P I'll say it again cause im annoying, please get rid of all single-damage-type bonuses on missile and drone ships and replace them with general damage bonuses. The 50% dps nerf to the ishtar is bad enough. And i dont even fly one. ---------------- Boost T2 Plate HP!
keepiru	Posted - 2005.10.31 16:40:00 - [2] Edited by: keepiru on 31/10/2005 16:41:25 Originally by: Nafri its just that gallante will finally also suffer when choosing damage, like matari and like caldari You mean like the breacher? :P Matari cant really claim to suffer when choosing damage, sorry. Anyway, ive asked for damage type bonus conversion before, so i guess ill take it up on myself to be as obnoxious and loud as possible now in campaigning against them. edit: and yes, ofc, hello raven bonus? why does the domi have to be damage type penalised? Whats the bleeding advantage for the game's balance to justify any ship being limited in such a way? -------------
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2005.10.31 16:40:00 - [3] Edited by: keepiru on 31/10/2005 16:41:25 Originally by: Nafri its just that gallante will finally also suffer when choosing damage, like matari and like caldari You mean like the breacher? :P Matari cant really claim to suffer when choosing damage, sorry. Anyway, ive asked for damage type bonus conversion before, so i guess ill take it up on myself to be as obnoxious and loud as possible now in campaigning against them. edit: and yes, ofc, hello raven bonus? why does the domi have to be damage type penalised? Whats the bleeding advantage for the game's balance to justify any ship being limited in such a way? ---------------- Boost T2 Plate HP!
keepiru	Posted - 2005.10.31 16:44:00 - [4] Originally by: Nafri And Matari ammu has less damage... and you need to switch ammos to do other damage (which will do less damage since its long range ammo) If i remember correctly when Hammer proposed the ammo changes which would have let you switch damage types without losing damage, you campaigned vocally against them. You cant have your cake and eat it, as they say. >.>;; Tho ive never really understood why they say that :P -------------
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2005.10.31 16:44:00 - [5] Originally by: Nafri And Matari ammu has less damage... and you need to switch ammos to do other damage (which will do less damage since its long range ammo) If i remember correctly when Hammer proposed the ammo changes which would have let you switch damage types without losing damage, you campaigned vocally against them. You cant have your cake and eat it, as they say. >.>;; Tho ive never really understood why they say that :P ---------------- Boost T2 Plate HP!
keepiru	Posted - 2005.11.01 13:55:00 - [6] Originally by: Tuxford Changing racial damage types to all damage types. /me does a little dance awesome! \o/ is it too much to ask to have the same done to missile bonuses? :D ------------- Just say NO to single damage type bonuses. Viva la revolucion! o/
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2005.11.01 13:55:00 - [7] Originally by: Tuxford Changing racial damage types to all damage types. /me does a little dance awesome! \o/ is it too much to ask to have the same done to missile bonuses? :D ---------------- Boost T2 Plate HP!
keepiru	Posted - 2005.11.01 14:15:00 - [8] Originally by: Pharuan Another thing you might want to look at is popping the drones that are unsupervised in space. I know quite a few mission running systems that have pages and pages of drones in space. I don't know if that will help the servers or not. But I dont think anyone is going to spend that much isk in probes to track them down. Indeed. Perhaps making them pop after 3 days theyre in space? ------------- Just say NO to single damage type bonuses. Viva la revolucion! o/
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2005.11.01 14:15:00 - [9] Originally by: Pharuan Another thing you might want to look at is popping the drones that are unsupervised in space. I know quite a few mission running systems that have pages and pages of drones in space. I don't know if that will help the servers or not. But I dont think anyone is going to spend that much isk in probes to track them down. Indeed. Perhaps making them pop after 3 days theyre in space? ---------------- Boost T2 Plate HP!
keepiru	Posted - 2005.11.02 20:04:00 - [10] Originally by: Lady Chiron Originally by: Grimpak ok I'll spam this again: and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverybody forgot about mining drones. Good point. People use 10-15 mining drones for, well, mining. What happens when they can only use 5 and there are no bonuses for them? They become absolutely useless. Sigh. Once again: Drone interfacing gives 20% to damage & 20% to mining yeld. ------------- Where are the named 800mm Plates and Mega Ions, CCP?
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2005.11.02 20:04:00 - [11] Originally by: Lady Chiron Originally by: Grimpak ok I'll spam this again: and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverybody forgot about mining drones. Good point. People use 10-15 mining drones for, well, mining. What happens when they can only use 5 and there are no bonuses for them? They become absolutely useless. Sigh. Once again: Drone interfacing gives 20% to damage & 20% to mining yeld. ---------------- Boost T2 Plate HP!
keepiru	Posted - 2005.11.03 23:32:00 - [12] That's cause its 2 completely independent factors each applying a negative multiplier to damage, and not affecting each other in any way. Instead of 2 factors for turrets where one applies a multiplier to the other which then decided the random number function used to decide hit type and chance to hit etc. Unless ive beeen sold something other than tobacco at the cornerstore i made a lenghty post about this sort of problem being inherent in the missile mechanics that were being handed to us, but people were too busy screaming about the death of the lvl4 raven to care... Essentially its much much harder to balance such a system with 2 independent modifiers, so all you can do is tweak the values a little this or that way, but in order to make missiles do good damage to an mwding target without making the velocity factor scaled by the signature size factor like id suggested or some similar interdependency between the factors, youd pretty much have to turn them into the i-win button they were - in some cases - before. How this has any relation to drones, im not quite sure myself. ------------- Where are the named 800mm Plates and Mega Ions, CCP?
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2005.11.03 23:32:00 - [13] That's cause its 2 completely independent factors each applying a negative multiplier to damage, and not affecting each other in any way. Instead of 2 factors for turrets where one applies a multiplier to the other which then decided the random number function used to decide hit type and chance to hit etc. Unless ive beeen sold something other than tobacco at the cornerstore i made a lenghty post about this sort of problem being inherent in the missile mechanics that were being handed to us, but people were too busy screaming about the death of the lvl4 raven to care... Essentially its much much harder to balance such a system with 2 independent modifiers, so all you can do is tweak the values a little this or that way, but in order to make missiles do good damage to an mwding target without making the velocity factor scaled by the signature size factor like id suggested or some similar interdependency between the factors, youd pretty much have to turn them into the i-win button they were - in some cases - before. How this has any relation to drones, im not quite sure myself. ---------------- Boost T2 Plate HP!
keepiru	Posted - 2005.11.05 12:54:00 - [14] I was just wondering it they'll call web drones Spider Drone :3 ------------- Where are the named 800mm Plates and Mega Ions, CCP?
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2005.11.05 12:54:00 - [15] I was just wondering it they'll call web drones Spider Drone :3 ---------------- Boost T2 Plate HP!
keepiru	Posted - 2005.11.05 17:19:00 - [16] I hope that was sarcasm ------------- Where are the named 800mm Plates and Mega Ions, CCP?
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2005.11.05 17:19:00 - [17] I hope that was sarcasm ---------------- Boost T2 Plate HP!
keepiru	Posted - 2005.11.20 00:55:00 - [18] post 1337 throbb, kekeke ------------- Where are the named 800mm Plates and Mega Ions, CCP?
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2005.11.20 00:55:00 - [19] post 1337 throbb, kekeke ---------------- Boost T2 Plate HP!
keepiru	Posted - 2005.11.21 19:43:00 - [20] That would be a MASSIVE change in combat mechanics. ------------- Where are the named 800mm Plates and Mega Ions, CCP?
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2005.11.21 19:43:00 - [21] That would be a MASSIVE change in combat mechanics. ---------------- Boost T2 Plate HP!
keepiru	Posted - 2005.11.24 05:30:00 - [22] Fisrt page of this thread mate. ------------- Where are the named 800mm Plates and Mega Ions, CCP?
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2005.11.24 05:30:00 - [23] Fisrt page of this thread mate. ---------------- Boost T2 Plate HP!
keepiru	Posted - 2005.12.14 06:11:00 - [24] Originally by: Ferfax this is Great you dev really did your job your turn eve into wow nerfin a whole race did ccp get bought up by blizzard? Yeah, isnt it terrible that theyve just ended up giving gallente the biggest boost in recent history? Please go away. ------------- Where are the missile damage implants? ;)
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2005.12.14 06:11:00 - [25] Originally by: Ferfax this is Great you dev really did your job your turn eve into wow nerfin a whole race did ccp get bought up by blizzard? Yeah, isnt it terrible that theyve just ended up giving gallente the biggest boost in recent history? Please go away. ---------------- Boost T2 Plate HP!

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