I was wondering if anyone elses training will be making it just in time to get the most out of the SP adjustment when the 4th of June expansion rolls around? I'm currently on destroyer 5 which will be done on monday at 4PM with just enough time a few frigate levels before DT. I missed out on the BC 5 but that ok, I'll get it later. So, what about you?

Trained Dessie 5 for dictors, trained BC5 for CS. Have all the reqs for racial stuff anyway.

Would like a skill to reduce the costs of clones though, especially since I jump up another level of clone for zero benefit.

/me wanders off whinging about pointless SPs

I'm not sure I understand "Expansion day SP bonus." Would someone please enlighten me?

Odyssey will reduce the cost of clones across the board by 30%.

Oh, about 90 days after they announced that they were going to split the destroyer and Battlecrusier skills.

People THINK they are getting SPs for nothing.


They aren't.


The new skills simply complicate the already SP heavy skill system further by tuning two skills into 8.


Some love it, some hate it.

I totally dont care but there you are.

I know it's not ''bonus'' SP per say.

I know it's not ''bonus'' SP per say. It's just your total SP adjusted for the new skill tree layout. We also don't get to choose where those SP go, they are all going toward making us fly what we can already fly come the 4th of june.

Amarr Cruiser 3 - Check
Amarr Frig 4 - Check
BC 5 - Check
Caldari Cruiser 3 - Check
Caldari Frig 4 - Check
Destroyer 5 - Check
Gallent Cruiser 3 - Check
Gallent Frig 4 - Check
Minm Cruiser 3 - Check
Minm Frig 4 - Check


Concord we are go for giving me *(%#*( more SP to increase my clone costs without changing what ships I can fly

Side note
Secondary Mission failure of reaching Command Ship I by 4 days.

The part I don't get is the lack of consistency. CCP decides they must split up BC and DD skills, but says nothing about Interceptor or Assault Frigate or Covert Ops, which are all just as generic.

I thought we were doing this in the name of consistency?

The part I don't get is the lack of consistency. CCP decides they must split up BC and DD skills, but says nothing about Interceptor or Assault Frigate or Covert Ops, which are all just as generic.

I thought we were doing this in the name of consistency?

(/me mutters something rude about the hobgoblin of small minds)

GǪso 1-+ years after it was announced, it's still managed to sneak up on people?

At any rate, I've read the expansion details, the Dev blogs, etc. and I understand what they're doing. Well, I understand at least the part that says "If I can fly it before the change, I can fly it after the change". Where I got lost is what exactly this means for me insofar as my skill points are concerned.

It means exactly what it says and nothing else. People like to talk about skill points because they think SP matter, when in reality, they aren't a factor in this change-over.

If you could fly any kind of destroyer or battlecruiser before at a given skill level, you will be able to fly that same destroyer or BC at the exact same skill level. All that's happening is that there is no longer a cross-racial dessy or BC skill, but rather one for each race. Your old skill(s) will be translated to their equivalents under the new scheme.

This may lead you to have more total SP and thus a more expensive clone, but that's about it. There is a very specific edge-case scenario where you might end up with reassignable SP, but you'd have to have been a pretty clumsy player to get into that state.