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Oneyeking	Posted - 2005.11.03 22:15:00 - [91] CURRENT
Paradox Eve	Posted - 2005.11.03 22:15:00 - [92] New [By "New" I dont mean I support every new drone and statistic, as that will require testing, I just mean I support the general idea.]
Kager o	Posted - 2005.11.03 22:21:00 - [93] Edited by: Kager o on 03/11/2005 22:21:48 Anyone voting for the current system obviously has not warped or undocked into 30 plus hostile drones in a pvp situation. The lag created by only a small percentage of these drones is enough to realize a change to the number of drones is a REQUIRED one, even if there must be sacrifices to the overall gaming system along the way. FPS literally goes down to <30 down from 100+ even while running a more then complient computer with cable connection is definite proof of this. Even if you think a swarm of drones looks awesome yourself, Lag does not look cool to me. Currently with the proposed changes on the table provided by the devs, it's a win/win situation for everyone, especially drone users themselves, in both PVP and PVE situations. Less drones, less loss of money in lost drones, more "waves" of sustainable and equal or MORE dps for all drone ships and hardier drones to combat smart bomb users. Anyone fighting these changes better look at the hill they are about to start running back up. Friend or Foe.....theres still a toll
Derrys	Posted - 2005.11.03 22:51:00 - [94] Edited by: Derrys on 03/11/2005 22:53:27 Originally by: Santiac I'm sorry, but i think you are missing our point. The problem isn't the impressiveness or fearsomeness of the lethality of the new drones, it's the visual intimidation they give ground for when in a swarm of 15 drones, instead of 5. Leaving the domi as intimadating, visually, as any other ship launching 5 drones. :) Which, as I said, can be an advantage in itself. Either people will learn to fear Domi drones more than others, or they won't. If they do, then the intimidation is still there and your point is moot. If they don't...well, then they are underestimating you and you can take advantage of that fact to catch them off guard.
Shinca	Posted - 2005.11.03 22:52:00 - [95] new ----------------------------- (\_/) (X.x) (> <) WTB cookbook with bunny recipes
AlexCA	Posted - 2005.11.03 23:04:00 - [96] new
Corto Maltese	Posted - 2005.11.03 23:10:00 - [97] I'd say the new AMOUNT, just not the new features. A gank setup BS with dampening/other EWAR drones will just be rediculous. BUT I do think it is necessary to reduce the number of drones.
Megadon	Posted - 2005.11.03 23:48:00 - [98] #2 In with the NEW and OUT with the OLD.
BaD PaPPa	Posted - 2005.11.04 01:46:00 - [99] current The new one needs a little more planning and tweaking by devs. I for onr have never been for changing a ship bonus's or a skill after it has been rolled out other than minor tweaks
Mo Steel	Posted - 2005.11.04 02:07:00 - [100] New. Same output of damage plus better server stability plus less lag plus less drones all over = win.
Zefran Cochran	Posted - 2005.11.04 02:20:00 - [101] I say stick with Current. If the new system comes in I suggest you make those 5 drones like mini-frigates otherwise they will be useless. Smartbomb 4tw
Weirda	Posted - 2005.11.04 02:27:00 - [102] New -- Thread Killer (attempt to train verbosity from 4 back down to 1 -- failed) <END TRANSMISSION>
Lilja	Posted - 2005.11.04 07:05:00 - [103] Current 4tw! And yeah, clean up space ffs. There are cans all over.
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2005.11.04 12:23:00 - [104] Originally by: Zefran Cochran I say stick with Current. If the new system comes in I suggest you make those 5 drones like mini-frigates otherwise they will be useless. Smartbomb 4tw Please read the devblogs. Drones will have 2/2.5 times the hitpoints they currently have, making them LESS succeptible to smartbombs than they are now My Latest Vid: Linky
Nekhad Jormuzzar	Posted - 2005.11.04 12:25:00 - [105] Neither.
Shadow Vice	Posted - 2005.11.04 12:47:00 - [106] new And did noone read the drone support module that will incresce the orbitdidtance/optimal range of drones out of smartbomb range anyone also about gank ships with ewar combat with bore ewar 5 tracking distruper drones ftw (btw got car with max t1 drone skills and fly gallente not a nearf it opens up a whole new world for us)
dantes inferno	Posted - 2005.11.04 12:57:00 - [107] now the gallente racial bonus is gone i would say new...but on the other hand this does feel like a bit of a cop out on CCP's part. this will reduce lag which is good...but it sets a bad precdent..what happens when the subscibers and poeple online go up as it has been to around 30k and we get the same lag we have now....what will CCP "boost" that time to compencate? Right changes...wrong reasons IMO _____
Bsport	Posted - 2005.11.04 13:01:00 - [108] Current However drone system switching to a control point system combat drones 1 control point giving u a max of 15, sentry drones 4 control points etc --------
Santiac	Posted - 2005.11.04 13:21:00 - [109] Originally by: Derrys Edited by: Derrys on 03/11/2005 22:53:27 Originally by: Santiac I'm sorry, but i think you are missing our point. The problem isn't the impressiveness or fearsomeness of the lethality of the new drones, it's the visual intimidation they give ground for when in a swarm of 15 drones, instead of 5. Leaving the domi as intimadating, visually, as any other ship launching 5 drones. :) Which, as I said, can be an advantage in itself. Either people will learn to fear Domi drones more than others, or they won't. If they do, then the intimidation is still there and your point is moot. If they don't...well, then they are underestimating you and you can take advantage of that fact to catch them off guard. Again, i'm not talking about advantages or disadvantages of the system, i'm not talking about the drones capabilities of lethality, of course someone would fear domi-drones more then thorax-drones, just like people would fear a torp wielding raven more then a torp wielding megathron (for the sake of it, lets say they both could use the same amount of launchers). My point is, that the visual effects will not be as intimdating. Torpedoes would not hold the same visual intimidation without the blast. Imo these changes - while obviously needed, i'm not disputing that, - are like removing the blast from torps and replacing them with that of rockets. While they would keep the same statistics, making them just as intimidating as they were before, statistically, they would become visually less intimdating then before. :) ________________________________________ <insert clever/witty comment here>
Alpdruck	Posted - 2005.11.04 13:29:00 - [110] Originally by: Santiac My point is, that the visual effects will not be as intimdating. Torpedoes would not hold the same visual intimidation without the blast. There are people who get intimidated by torpedo blasts?
Derrys	Posted - 2005.11.04 15:06:00 - [111] Originally by: Santiac My point is, that the visual effects will not be as intimdating. Torpedoes would not hold the same visual intimidation without the blast. Imo these changes - while obviously needed, i'm not disputing that, - are like removing the blast from torps and replacing them with that of rockets. I think you put too much emphasis on the visuals. Psychological intimidation and uncertainty are much more effective than just having a bunch of icons on the screen.
raistalin	Posted - 2005.11.04 15:30:00 - [112] Current. New drone content was not largely asked for at expense of nerf imo. I don't want more skills to train anyway, just better gameplay. And I didn't see anything wrong with drones except for lag.
Santiac	Posted - 2005.11.04 15:39:00 - [113] granted, perhaps intimidation was the wrong choice of word. :) I'm simply more concerned with the atmosphere, which to me depends not only on potential and effectiveness, but also on the visual effects of things. :) ________________________________________ <insert clever/witty comment here>
Ghoest	Posted - 2005.11.04 16:50:00 - [114] New one
K4tKeb4b	Posted - 2005.11.04 17:02:00 - [115] CURRENT. I dont like the idear of seeing/flying an ishtar/domi ect with 5 drones. Regardless to whether the do the same damage as 15 with max skills. Changing skills that people have trained for a specific reason REALLY sucks. Quite alot of peopls forget to deploy drones as it is atm, they wont be with the new system. Whats next for the nerf nos??
Ploplop Fizzfizz	Posted - 2005.11.04 17:22:00 - [116] New system all the way. It delivers a lot and will (hopefully) clear up a lot of drone management frustration. iirc I didn't start seeing flaky drone activities until I hit 7. It's needed an overhaul for a very long time, so this will be great for the game.
Sangxianc	Posted - 2005.11.04 17:33:00 - [117] Edited by: Sangxianc on 04/11/2005 17:33:38 The only thing that still upsets me about the new one is how an Ishtar or Dominix using supprt drones will be no better than any other ship using them. - Do not deny yourself experience of that which lies beyond, behind the sun, in the world they call unpeopled.
Justice Bringer	Posted - 2005.11.04 17:39:00 - [118] I like my 15 drones from my Ishtar and Vexor, but I do understand the need to make changes. If the new changes go ahead, then the term Drone Carriers will be a misnomer and should be removed from the whole item database as there will no longer be any such ship in EVE, except the Moros?!?!? Or is that being smacked down from 35 drones to 5 also??? As one poster has already stated, what will happen if the player base goes up to 200k? How will CCP deal with that if at least 50 - 60% will be using drones. Will drones soon become obsolete entirely as the servers won't be able to cope?? I say go with the change to aleviate the server burden, but I still would like to keep my drones..... Confused?? Yeah, me too.... Justice
Kaeten	Posted - 2005.11.04 18:17:00 - [119] new I'm not paying for this fecking game if nothing new comes in. I might aswell play cs if I want that. Latest Video: In memory of The Sioux
Kyguard	Posted - 2005.11.04 18:28:00 - [120] Current. -- God is on the side with the best artillery

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