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Arduemont
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1667
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Posted - 2013.08.07 20:52:00 -
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Nice to see this thread is getting attention again, but I doubt CCP will actually do anything about it. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Drax Concrilla
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
13
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Posted - 2013.08.07 21:20:00 -
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Jumping on the "let us turn it off" bandwagon. The how it hijacksnoying but what's more annoying is how it hijacks sections of space - if you hover your mouse too near one of the popups it shows you that anom when you really wanted the station/planet/etc behind it. |

flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels R O G U E
1296
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Posted - 2013.08.07 21:28:00 -
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Icarus Able wrote:flakeys wrote:Respen Seriavo wrote: I'll give you that I thought "this is neat" to myself as I left a station for the first time ans saw it. First time i saw it i immediatly said to some friends 'Cool , this is gonna be really annoying after a few times' .... The odd thing is i actually don't 'notice' it any more.As most stuff it just needs getting used to though i can imagine that for some people with a 'visual handicap' to the eyes it would be irritating every single time. try ignoring it in a system with 20+ anoms and as many sigs.
I jump wormholes and null a lot so yes i am used to that but as said i can understand if people have a problemm with it.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Gun Dulf
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:35:00 -
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I just wonder why making this an option can be such a big deal. |

Arduemont
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1667
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:47:00 -
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To me, it's not even an issue of the visual.. It's the fact that it's handed to us and automatic whether we like it or not. I don't want everyone to see all the anomalies in system as soon as they jump in regardless of whether they are looking for them or not.
Like I think I have said before, CCP made a smart move taking ICE belts and moving them to anomalies, and making the hidden ore belts scannable without having to use probes was a lovely addition. But when you made the scan automatic, those two things now show up to everyone instantly anyway. What was the point in moving the ice belts out of the drop down menu if they are going to be view-able by everyone who jumps into the system anyway?
If I always want to see these things when I jump in, then turning it on perma-run is great and saves a lot of button spamming.. but showing it to everyone whether they like it or not takes away from the point of it and it becomes another area of the game where experience means nothing. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1843
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:20:00 -
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seriously, are you all hyper-aware of your surroundings, or am I just oblivious? Because unless I actually look for the anomalies, scanner sweep, jump animation and whatever, I really don't notice them any more.
I still do pay attention to the anomalies and signatures because they've become central to my gameplay, and because I still think the jump animation is ludicrously frakking cool, but it takes a conscious effort now, otherwise they're just part of the background.
I'm telling you guys - if this is bothering you, it's self-inflicted bother. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
1256
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:39:00 -
[217] - Quote
im not fond of it but i can live with it - a toggle in the menu would be lovely Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
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Solaris Ecladia
High Flyers Ex Cinere Scriptor
151
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Posted - 2013.08.08 15:15:00 -
[218] - Quote
Its been more than a few weeks, turn it off |

Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
25
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:07:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible. Hear that guys? We need to spam till they get sick of it. |

Arduemont
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1671
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:55:00 -
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Erufen Rito wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible. Hear that guys? We need to spam till they get sick of it.
If it's spamming they need, it's spamming they'll get. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
950
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Posted - 2013.08.08 18:07:00 -
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It's not that I care whether or not the animation happens, I'm cool with that. The sole thing I can't stand about the scanning system is that it takes click precedent over all in-space brackets, regardless of whether you're directly hovering over a bracket and not the actual anomaly or not. I don't particularly care about anomalies when I'm PVPing, and not being able to quickly click a close bracket upon a jump-in because a useless ****ing anomaly on the scanner is taking my clicks instead is annoying as hell. Toshiro Ozuwara > GOon cowards come fight Toshiro Ozuwara > Oh wait, you only camp when you got numberssss
I would fully support account bans by ccp for meta type stuff like this. |

Dyvim Slorm
Coven of the Morrigan
146
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Posted - 2013.08.08 18:27:00 -
[222] - Quote
It really does need an option to turn it off, it can get annoying if you have no interest in anomalies |

Regan Rotineque
Rl'yeh Interstellar Ltd. Mildly Sober
149
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Posted - 2013.08.08 20:25:00 -
[223] - Quote
Asked for off button when testing......asked for off button on TQ
Asking for off button again.
Only needs to be on when I want or actually care to go scanning.
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Arduemont
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1674
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Posted - 2013.08.08 22:10:00 -
[224] - Quote
I think it should be off by default and you have to turn it on. That makes infinitely more sense. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Yogsoloth
Percussive Diplomacy Samurai Pizza Cats
134
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Posted - 2013.08.09 13:42:00 -
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Of all the proposed changes or fixes over the years or on the new big list never once did I see anyone say;
"What I really need is an automatic scanner to sweep the system after every jump or undock"
For those of us that don't explore it is a total and unnecessary annoyance that just won't seem to go away.
Make it stop already. |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1883
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:12:00 -
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So frakking IGNORE IT.
great ghost of the skies people, it's just a background thing. It is literally the easiest thing in the game to ignore as far as I'm concerned. If you're finding it even remotely intrusive then that is because you WANT it to be intrusive. you're jabbing a fork into your own arm and then complaining that it hurts
The "off" button is in your head. Go ahead and press it. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Tlat Ij
Hedion University Amarr Empire
41
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:12:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible. My beef is that I turned it off and it doesn't turn off! I can see how its useful when I use it on my scanning character, but when I turn it off because I am not looking for sites it needs to ******* turn off! |

Seetesh
ENEBRIATED MINERS Ltd
67
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Posted - 2013.08.09 15:00:00 -
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Octoven wrote:Respen Seriavo wrote:Every... Single.... Jump.... I know you are proud of your new feature but is it really necessary to make my screen flash every 20 seconds during a long trip? I've only been back in game about an hour and a half and I cringe every time I see this animation. I'll give you that I thought "this is neat" to myself as I left a station for the first time ans saw it. But seriously, it sucks.... I'd much prefer to see it when called upon.
Please give me a way to turn it off or better yet, make it go away unless I decide to do a manual scan. Thanks! You should have seen it BEFORE they changed it, it was bright green. Be thankful they toned the color down some and get over it.
I remember a time when I needed sunglasses or was forced to dim my monitor with some stars and has clouds. |

Respen Seriavo
EVE University Ivy League
65
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:19:00 -
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Nice to see this thread alive and kicking, was just playing today and it annoyed me as usual. Came here in hopes someone else was still complaining and this thread was on the first page. Good to see that others are just as annoyed, a little bummed it hasn't warranted an off switch yet though. |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1886
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:21:00 -
[230] - Quote
Frankly, at this point I would hope that CCP's default response to all the whiners who demand an off switch for every last feature of the game is "lol, no. HTFU." An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
309
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:45:00 -
[231] - Quote
Stitcher wrote:Frankly, at this point I would hope that CCP's default response to all the whiners who demand an off switch for every last feature of the game is "lol, no. HTFU." Because CCP knows that if they do not force everything onto the players - including that star gate warp effect, then these subpar features in this half-assed ~expansion~ would have had many, many people turn them off after a day or so of "Ooh, ahh, nice..." *turns them off permanently*. |

Gun Dulf
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.08.09 21:52:00 -
[232] - Quote
CCPs default response is " " so i-Śll take the part of servicing you: lol, no. HTFU.
ISK donations welcome. |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1909
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Posted - 2013.08.10 00:37:00 -
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As it should be, really. I happen to think people need to learn how to ignore features they don't use rather than needing a special "DURR I NOT DO SCAN GAEMS" button. CCP meanwhile need to keep up the appearance of being professionals. The poor bar stewards.
Happily for me, as a player rather than a dev, I'm at liberty to say that if the system DRADIS sweep bothers somebody, then the irritation they feel is self-inflicted, and as such they need to learn how to not be a colossal infant. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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RangerGord
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services The Possum Lodge
17
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Posted - 2013.08.10 03:26:00 -
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The issue i have with their standard response of "we will see how many people are still complaining about this in a couple of months" is awful... since most of the people that don't agree with many of these changes were told countless times on the test server feedback that "you just don't like change, so accept it cause its not changing"... even though they were just changing for the sake of change.
To give it a couple months and see how many people are still complaining is not a good solution by any means, all that means is they are just taking the safe bet that everyone will get tired of them ignoring the feedback as usual and eventually give up trying to improve underdeveloped/unwanted/unneeded features. Like the font, it was smaller, crisper, much cleaner, and i didn't have to have all my overview tabs expanded halfway across the screen to read everything even when scaled to 90%. We just got tired of dealing with CCP's "we know better than you" attitude towards feedback on new things.
For anyone that says otherwise, I dare you to find a dev post in the test server feedback that is supportive of the feedback instead of shutting people down or responding to dumb off topic posts with even dumber more off topic responses for the sake of putting a dev tag on a thread to say they are active in it.
My faith in CCP's acceptance of feedback was pretty much permanently lost after the unified inventory debacle where 95% of test feedback said it was nowhere near ready... and when it hit the live server after a mere 2 weeks of testing they found out: "omgwtfbbq, maybe all those people that told us it wasn't ready were right, we will get this working, its our highest priority..." but then several months later key elements were still not right and then they just gave up because they had other things to break and change for no reason.
So they have created the environment where feedback is not accepted and turned down as purely resistance to change, this type of environment does not usually tend to give people a reason to continue providing feedback after long periods of not being listened to. |

Gun Dulf
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.08.10 09:17:00 -
[235] - Quote
Derp.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
4201
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Posted - 2013.08.10 09:30:00 -
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I still really like the scan animation. . |

Rhea Rankin Nolen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.08.10 09:32:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:As it should be, really. I happen to think people need to learn how to ignore features they don't use rather than needing a special "DURR I NOT DO SCAN GAEMS" button. CCP meanwhile need to keep up the appearance of being professionals. The poor bar stewards.
Happily for me, as a player rather than a dev, I'm at liberty to say that if the system DRADIS sweep bothers somebody, then the irritation they feel is self-inflicted, and as such they need to learn how to not be a colossal infant.
There there son..once you get to pvp-ing and learn to use the D-scan like all the big boys do, then you will see why new scanner effect gets in the way. |

Daily Operation
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.08.11 01:49:00 -
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When you jump into a system and one of the signature reticules covers a celestial, you have to wait for it to disappear before you can click it to warp or d-scan. This is extremely frustrating. If I wanted to know what signatures were in system, I'd OPEN THE PROBE SCANNER. This along with the jukebox removal is an absolutely mind-boggling change. |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
40
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Posted - 2013.08.11 09:55:00 -
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Respen Seriavo wrote:Every... Single.... Jump.... I know you are proud of your new feature but is it really necessary to make my screen flash every 20 seconds during a long trip? I've only been back in game about an hour and a half and I cringe every time I see this animation. I'll give you that I thought "this is neat" to myself as I left a station for the first time ans saw it. But seriously, it sucks.... I'd much prefer to see it when called upon.
Please give me a way to turn it off or better yet, make it go away unless I decide to do a manual scan. Thanks!
dont whine , i think it looks neat , keep it |

Gun Dulf
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.08.12 14:00:00 -
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Lugalbandak wrote:
dont whine , i think it looks neat , keep it
Stop whining, it looks crappy, make it optional.
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