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Respen Seriavo
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:22:00 -
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Every... Single.... Jump.... I know you are proud of your new feature but is it really necessary to make my screen flash every 20 seconds during a long trip? I've only been back in game about an hour and a half and I cringe every time I see this animation. I'll give you that I thought "this is neat" to myself as I left a station for the first time ans saw it. But seriously, it sucks.... I'd much prefer to see it when called upon.
Please give me a way to turn it off or better yet, make it go away unless I decide to do a manual scan. Thanks! |

Hehaw Jimbojohnson
Frontier Explorer's League Sadistica Alliance
37
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:26:00 -
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Respen Seriavo wrote:Every... Single.... Jump.... I know you are proud of your new feature but is it really necessary to make my screen flash every 20 seconds during a long trip? I've only been back in game about an hour and a half and I cringe every time I see this animation. I'll give you that I thought "this is neat" to myself as I lost a station for the first time ans saw it. But seriously, it sucks.... I'd much prefer to see it when called upon.
Please give me a way to turn it off or better yet, make it go away unless I decide to do a manual scan. Thanks!
This has been complained about extensively over the past couple months on the test server, don't expect it to change anytime soon. |

Djana Libra
The Black Ops S2N Citizens
180
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:28:00 -
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I thought we could just turn it off |

Q 5
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:28:00 -
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I want to turn the sun off...that never happened.
Hope you have better luck. |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
161
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:28:00 -
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Respen Seriavo wrote:Every... Single.... Jump.... I know you are proud of your new feature but is it really necessary to make my screen flash every 20 seconds during a long trip? I've only been back in game about an hour and a half and I cringe every time I see this animation. I'll give you that I thought "this is neat" to myself as I left a station for the first time ans saw it. But seriously, it sucks.... I'd much prefer to see it when called upon.
Please give me a way to turn it off or better yet, make it go away unless I decide to do a manual scan. Thanks!
You should have seen it BEFORE they changed it, it was bright green. Be thankful they toned the color down some and get over it. |

J'Poll
Phoibe Enterprises
2278
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:29:00 -
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*shrugs* First world problem Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
161
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:29:00 -
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Q 5 wrote:I want to turn the sun off...that never happened.
Hope you have better luck.
I agree, those damn Orange Radiant stars are too bright can I have an option to turn those off? OOOhhhh nah I got one, all of these ships and people flying past me, can I get an option to turn those off too, they annoy me. |

Rose Hips
Zero Dot Zero
351
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:31:00 -
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Twitter: Max Singularity GÇÅ@MaxSingularity 10m I know I'm seeing Unicorns in the jump tunnel!!! Hard to catch but they are there! #eveonline #tweetfleet
Please don't remove these! They are cool. No off switch for Jump Tunnel Unicorns. "Catch them if you dare". Forum signature removed by Empress Jamyl as instructed by God Tò+püä jamyl sarum tÜçsÉÄpâ¬péñpâû |

Respen Seriavo
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:32:00 -
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Djana Libra wrote:I thought we could just turn it off
I thought so too at first. In fact, I thought this was what X'ing out "show sensor overlay" on the radial menu was for. But no such luck.
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Respen Seriavo
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:40:00 -
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Octoven wrote:
You should have seen it BEFORE they changed it, it was bright green. Be thankful they toned the color down some and get over it.
J'Poll wrote:*shrugs* First world problem
First world problem (like every single issue in EVE) or not, it's really annoying and not something I want to pay to look at. Hence voicing my opinion here.
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Huang Mo
Tianxia Inc
8
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:54:00 -
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Respen Seriavo wrote:Every... Single.... Jump....
Flashing / blinking / zooming . That works well in a music video or in a presentation and it may amuse some subscribers, but the rest of us ? Please give us a way to turn it off.
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
484
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Posted - 2013.06.04 14:55:00 -
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Octoven wrote:Q 5 wrote:I want to turn the sun off...that never happened.
Hope you have better luck. I agree, those damn Orange Radiant stars are too bright can I have an option to turn those off? OOOhhhh nah I got one, all of these ships and people flying past me, can I get an option to turn those off too, they annoy me.
In fact, you can. Overview + Bracket settings...  |

Q 5
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2013.06.04 15:07:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Octoven wrote:Q 5 wrote:I want to turn the sun off...that never happened.
Hope you have better luck. I agree, those damn Orange Radiant stars are too bright can I have an option to turn those off? OOOhhhh nah I got one, all of these ships and people flying past me, can I get an option to turn those off too, they annoy me. In fact, you can. Overview + Bracket settings... 
You mean ships and such, but Baal is all powerful and cannot be turned down or turned off. |

Prototype SV-17
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.06.04 15:10:00 -
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Respen Seriavo wrote:Every... Single.... Jump.... I know you are proud of your new feature but is it really necessary to make my screen flash every 20 seconds during a long trip? I've only been back in game about an hour and a half and I cringe every time I see this animation. I'll give you that I thought "this is neat" to myself as I left a station for the first time ans saw it. But seriously, it sucks.... I'd much prefer to see it when called upon.
Please give me a way to turn it off or better yet, make it go away unless I decide to do a manual scan. Thanks!
Mass exodus of subscription is the only language developers understand.
I don't particularly like my beautiful stars and nebula being littered with target reticules showing non-probed sites. |

Damasa Cloudwalker
Cloudwalker Enterprises
52
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Posted - 2013.06.04 15:10:00 -
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OP:
Don't expect for it to be changed, removed, or to have an option to turn it off. CCP doesn't like criticism of their product.
I try to think of it like this:
To them, I'm not a customer. They are absolute GODS, and can never be questioned.
I'm paying them for the privelege to play their game.
That might help get you through the motion sickness... |

Yigal Tzadok
Space Whores And Pimps Whores in space
21
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Posted - 2013.06.04 15:23:00 -
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my eyes and brain gets overheated from all this |

Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
221
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Posted - 2013.06.04 15:25:00 -
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Meh, I have the sensor overlay on all the time.
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J'Poll
Phoibe Enterprises
2282
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Posted - 2013.06.04 15:30:00 -
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Respen Seriavo wrote:Octoven wrote:
You should have seen it BEFORE they changed it, it was bright green. Be thankful they toned the color down some and get over it.
J'Poll wrote:*shrugs* First world problem First world problem (like every single issue in EVE) or not, it's really annoying and not something I want to pay to look at. Hence voicing my opinion here.
Okay...
1.) Create a contract to me with all your items 2.) Go to your account management page and unsub. 3.) Problem solved.
That wasn't so hard was it. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
161
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Posted - 2013.06.04 15:43:00 -
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Damasa Cloudwalker wrote:OP:
Don't expect for it to be changed, removed, or to have an option to turn it off. CCP doesn't like criticism of their product.
I try to think of it like this:
To them, I'm not a customer. They are absolute GODS, and can never be questioned.
I'm paying them for the privelege to play their game.
That might help get you through the motion sickness...
CCP Guard is now a god? Holy **** when did that happen?? GUARD!! Forgive me, I have sinned, I have forgotten to sacrifice my rifter to thee for the 10 year holy event. Please do not strike me down with QA Smartbombs >.<
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Respen Seriavo
EVE University Ivy League
5
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Posted - 2013.06.04 15:44:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:
Okay...
1.) Create a contract to me with all your items 2.) Go to your account management page and unsub. 3.) Problem solved.
That wasn't so hard was it.
This was very insightful, constructive and original, I thank you for your contribution.
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Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
222
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Posted - 2013.06.04 15:52:00 -
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Octoven wrote:
CCP Guard is now a god? Holy **** when did that happen?? GUARD!! Forgive me, I have sinned, I have forgotten to sacrifice my rifter to thee for the 10 year holy event. Please do not strike me down with QA Smartbombs >.<
You did not know that CCP Guard was not just A god, but THE god?
I do not think a rifter sacrifice will suffice, it should be at least a Nyx. |

Eto Tekai
Hounds Of War WHY so Seri0Us
32
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Posted - 2013.06.04 16:09:00 -
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Much like the Log off Timer sounds you cannot turn off, CCP will ignore the players negatively effected by this.
At least you can turn off sound.
CCP, Please add a toggle. |

Quindaster
Infernal laboratory Infernal Octopus
65
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Posted - 2013.06.04 16:28:00 -
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CCP is full of idiots. I never scan for this anomalies and other cosmic sigs, why I need always to see this useless for me effect and load my processor with useless effects? I DO NOT NEED this scan effect after every jump, especially in fleet, especially if I never use this anomalies and signatures.
Make ability to turn off this scan effect because this overlay button on scan didn't work and not turn it off.
And like people told, this all good for your boss presentations but not for everyday and people who REALLY PLAY this game, because we all know CCP dev never play in eve every day. |

Respen Seriavo
EVE University Ivy League
7
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Posted - 2013.06.04 17:36:00 -
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Quindaster wrote:CCP is full of idiots. I never scan for this anomalies and other cosmic sigs, why I need always to see this useless for me effect and load my processor with useless effects? I DO NOT NEED this scan effect after every jump, especially in fleet, especially if I never use this anomalies and signatures.
Make ability to turn off this scan effect because this overlay button on scan didn't work and not turn it off.
And like people told, this all good for your boss presentations but not for everyday and people who REALLY PLAY this game, because we all know CCP dev never play in eve every day.
I don't know about them being idiots, they've gotten this far. I just don't understand these changes. When I'm not interested in scanning, just don't show me scanning. Why shove it down our throats. I'm not a huge fan of mini games or camo ships either... but that's another thread entirely.
I'll just leave it at I simply don't like this expansion.
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Charlie Jacobson
162
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Posted - 2013.06.04 17:40:00 -
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I'd love to be able to turn off the scanning overlay completely but still always display all the sites in space. ;) |
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CCP Greyscale
C C P C C P Alliance
1923

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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:07:00 -
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Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible. |
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Kelby
22
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:21:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
Can you make it red and give it a low humming sound as it sweeps?  |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
65
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:28:00 -
[28] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
I think its cool, it reminds people that there is stuff to scan and explore, also the scan animation brings something fresh to the screen... OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

Liam Mirren
576
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:30:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
We need a font, any font. 95% of the time we don't need a system scan. So there's that.
Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
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Acwron
Meet The Fockers S2N Citizens
60
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:32:00 -
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Is it possible to actually scan the system whenever I want and not wait for the ship to scan it ?
For example, I cleared all anomalies and signatures and I have nothing on scan for 10 min now. Can't unignore, can't refresh ordo anything.
If I change the ship, all anoms/sigs disappear as well. have to wait...how long ? |

Khira Kitamatsu
562
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:36:00 -
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Prototype SV-17 wrote:Respen Seriavo wrote:Every... Single.... Jump.... I know you are proud of your new feature but is it really necessary to make my screen flash every 20 seconds during a long trip? I've only been back in game about an hour and a half and I cringe every time I see this animation. I'll give you that I thought "this is neat" to myself as I left a station for the first time ans saw it. But seriously, it sucks.... I'd much prefer to see it when called upon.
Please give me a way to turn it off or better yet, make it go away unless I decide to do a manual scan. Thanks! Mass exodus of subscription is the only language developers understand. I don't particularly like my beautiful stars and nebula being littered with target reticules showing non-probed sites.
See ya. o/
Ponies!-á We need more ponies! |

Khira Kitamatsu
562
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:38:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
I think it is a great addtion and helps to remind people that there are things we cannot see that they can find. +1 for making EVE a better game. Ponies!-á We need more ponies! |

Lost Hamster
FREE GATES HUN Reloaded
93
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:41:00 -
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It's really nice, for once or twice, however I have seen it 10+ time, and it's start to get annoying. Please get a button to switch it OFF. |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
246
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:44:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
eh, some of us just like rioting  You can trust me, I have a monocole |

Elle Ichosira
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:47:00 -
[35] - Quote
Agreed on the off button option. If we're not interested in scanning on certain pilots, why inundate us with the information constantly and repeatedly. |

J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
798
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:48:00 -
[36] - Quote
Don't worry if there's gonna be a riot it won't be about the scanner but about a certain new employee This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |

Fer'isam K'ahn
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:53:00 -
[37] - Quote
Well I have not even finished to download the patch and already hate it. - Like some said, the first time a lot of things look neat, but even at the presentation I thought, "hmm, I am doing a lot of fast paced distribution missions to get faction missions and standings and that is like 12 missions and 140 jumps the hour ... some jumps just 5 seconds apart and every time this damn scan"
The same goes for the jump tunnel effect, I will really enjoy and love it on 1 jumps to missions, into fights, exploring and so forth, but during trade actions, distribution missions etc... its just a hell of annoying.
An option needs to be there, even if it is 'hit "space" to abort/interrupt' if you don't want it to be able to take it out completely.
Flashy crap no-one needs and is just annoying over time is what killed a lot of games - functionality first, effects an option. hardcore players will always choose speed and efficiency over graphic effects - and those are the ones populating the world and make it go round.
First thing on many games is setting graphics and res to max high and disable all effects, I hate a cluttered screen.
And I thank the design goods for the transparency option ++++++++++
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Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
306
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:56:00 -
[38] - Quote
Respen Seriavo wrote:But seriously, it sucks.... I'd much prefer to see it when called upon.
Please give me a way to turn it off or better yet, make it go away unless I decide to do a manual scan. Thanks!
This.
It is too much. Give the analyze button back for system scanning without probes. Not today spaghetti. |

Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
307
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Posted - 2013.06.04 19:02:00 -
[39] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
The fact is you guys need to stop cramming stuff down people's throat and give them the option from the get-go.
Why is a valid opinion on day 1 of an expansion worth nothing?
P.S. the unified inventory still sucks just like it did day 1 Not today spaghetti. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1865
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Posted - 2013.06.04 19:07:00 -
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Damasa Cloudwalker wrote:OP:
Don't expect for it to be changed, removed, or to have an option to turn it off. CCP doesn't like criticism of their product.
I try to think of it like this:
To them, I'm not a customer. They are absolute GODS, and can never be questioned.
I'm paying them for the privelege to play their game.
That might help get you through the motion sickness... Wait until they get their first ADA lawsuit for inducing seizures... Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

Haulie Berry
885
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Posted - 2013.06.04 19:16:00 -
[41] - Quote
I spent a good bit of time on sisi and honestly, I haven't actually noticed the scan animation on TQ yet. I'd have to actually look for it. |

Kewso
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.06.04 19:17:00 -
[42] - Quote
I love it, it's really cool and more immersive experience. Plus it's awesome seeing things "ping" knowing there are things out there you don't normally see.
I've never did much scanning but thanks to the changes I've been hoping system to system running hacking sites and have racked up about 80 million in goodies in highsec hacking within an hour's time just exploring and having fun with it.
I thought I'd miss ice mining, the solo ice miner is no longer possible.
I'm just a solo miner, but after the changes the ice belts deplete within an hour as they get swarmed the most ice i got all day was 4 pieces stretched to 2 systems.
so that profession is gone and the botters will own the ice respawns since they deplete waaay to fast, otela was gone in under an hour. haha
but doing the hacking sites has been a nice change of pace and I haven't left the same system in about 2 years, but with the scanning changes ive been moving around systems for first time in 2 years.
if people don't like the scan on jump sequence then don't jump... no need in changing it |

Liam Mirren
586
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Posted - 2013.06.04 19:19:00 -
[43] - Quote
Kewso wrote:I love it, it's really cool and more immersive experience. Plus it's awesome seeing things "ping" knowing there are things out there you don't normally see.
I've never did much scanning but thanks to the changes I've been hoping system to system running hacking sites and have racked up about 80 million in goodies in highsec hacking within an hour's time just exploring and having fun with it.
I thought I'd miss ice mining, the solo ice miner is no longer possible.
I'm just a solo miner, but after the changes the ice belts deplete within an hour as they get swarmed the most ice i got all day was 4 pieces stretched to 2 systems.
so that profession is gone and the botters will own the ice respawns since they deplete waaay to fast, otela was gone in under an hour. haha
but doing the hacking sites has been a nice change of pace and I haven't left the same system in about 2 years, but with the scanning changes ive been moving around systems for first time in 2 years.
if people don't like the scan on jump sequence then don't jump... no need in changing it
Greyscale alt. Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
762
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Posted - 2013.06.04 19:24:00 -
[44] - Quote
I don't like graphics, please give me a option to play EvE Online ascii mode... R Tape Loading Error |

Qwyp
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.04 19:30:00 -
[45] - Quote
Liam Mirren wrote:Kewso wrote:I love it, it's really cool and more immersive experience. Plus it's awesome seeing things "ping" knowing there are things out there you don't normally see.
I've never did much scanning but thanks to the changes I've been hoping system to system running hacking sites and have racked up about 80 million in goodies in highsec hacking within an hour's time just exploring and having fun with it.
I thought I'd miss ice mining, the solo ice miner is no longer possible.
I'm just a solo miner, but after the changes the ice belts deplete within an hour as they get swarmed the most ice i got all day was 4 pieces stretched to 2 systems.
so that profession is gone and the botters will own the ice respawns since they deplete waaay to fast, otela was gone in under an hour. haha
but doing the hacking sites has been a nice change of pace and I haven't left the same system in about 2 years, but with the scanning changes ive been moving around systems for first time in 2 years.
if people don't like the scan on jump sequence then don't jump... no need in changing it Greyscale alt.
Actually my alt :)
I never bought into the creating an avatar... plus it stays unique
anyhow keep it as is, the scanning upon jump is awesome |

Fer'isam K'ahn
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:03:00 -
[46] - Quote
Btw, for 10 minutes now I have some huge 'first scan' - hidden sites hanging in space (colored diamond, little and big circles, text field, numbers etc...) with 'unknown' and 0% signal strength, though I never scanned ... bug ?!
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Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
1502
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:06:00 -
[47] - Quote
I was one of the people on the test server feedback threads complaining that it shouldn't occur every time you undock or jump through a gate... It's not even just the animation that annoys me. It ruins the point of scanning for those things in the first place. They made a great move when they put ice belts into anomalies but then they went and made the scan animation automatic so you see the sites as soon as you undock anyway. You might as well have left them in space normally, because everyone knows they're there. It ruins the point of scanning if it just is automatically found for you.
It suffices to say I wasn't the only person voicing this concern, but it still made it to the final cut. You'd have thought CCP had learnt it's lesson when they forced the CQ on everyone. Apparently not. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Regan Rotineque
Rl'yeh Interstellar Ltd. Mildly Sober
93
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:10:00 -
[48] - Quote
Ditto
If I want to scan give me the option to turn this on.....not the 'forced' way it is now.
~R~ |

Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
221
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:27:00 -
[49] - Quote
As cool as the scanner and effect is, i just don't really want it if i don't plan on running any sites. |

Squatdog
State Protectorate Caldari State
70
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:40:00 -
[50] - Quote
Here is the solution:
Keep the effect for when people MANUALLY scan a system, instead of forcing players to auto-scan every single time they jump through a gate. |

Fer'isam K'ahn
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:55:00 -
[51] - Quote
Squatdog wrote:Here is the solution:
Keep the effect for when people MANUALLY scan a system, instead of forcing players to auto-scan every single time they jump through a gate.
+++
And not only that, every time I un-dock with my miner and mine in the same system, I got residual leftovers from the scan stuck in the background. And nothing works (ignore, clear), except scanning and then hiding the scan <<< I SAW WHAT YOU DID THERE. - Bugged anyway.
And I am spending an unusual amount in the forums, since I alt tab every jump, scan, undock animation... .. a lot of 'word' to spread this way -¦-¦ |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
165
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Posted - 2013.06.05 01:11:00 -
[52] - Quote
Im sure the intent of the intial scan was to give a peek at items in the system before you scan, that way you KNOW there is something there before deploying probes or turning on the overlay. It essentially prevents people from missing sites in space. To be honest Ive rather got used to it now do Id rather not see the auto-scan go away. The color tone is low enough that it honestly is NOT that much a bother.
However, here is the real issue regarding the auto scan. EVE Players hate being told they cant do something, they hate being told, "Here is a new awesome graphic, and you cant turn it off completely." It has nothing to do with the actual mechanic being a problem, its a matter of principle for most players. Sort of like the door and ship spinning was with Incarna. However, unlike Incarna, this feature is not taking anything away from the player's game, and it certainly is not an annoyance. You get one little sweep and it goes by so fast that if you arent paying attention, you'd never know it happened. Its fine the way it is.
I fail to see how this feature is purely for exploration....you dont want to explore with ti? Fine, use it for pvp, hell you can find tons of miners with this thing now. Wormholes are even more dangerous the point being, this feature is beyond the scope of just exploration and there is no sense in nuking it just because a few people dont like it. |

Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
10
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 01:14:00 -
[53] - Quote
The animation is obnoxious. The sites in space, I don't mind. Why is it that I can turn off the sites in space, but not the obnoxious animation? |

Zak Breen
Aliastra Gallente Federation
87
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 01:14:00 -
[54] - Quote
I really don't see the problem. You'll eventually not even notice it. Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of not knowing. http://www.di.fm/spacemusic |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
165
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 01:58:00 -
[55] - Quote
Zak Breen wrote:I really don't see the problem. You'll eventually not even notice it.
I agree, day one of new features and changes always take a lot of ****, CCP knows this and arent going to change jack for at least a couple weeks to let people get acclimated before addressing serious concerns to changing it. |

Allison A'vani
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
44
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 02:01:00 -
[56] - Quote
Octoven wrote:Another Octoven Splurge Post.
If you have EVER been in a 500+ man fleet fight under 10% TiDi you would hate it too. Now I do know this is your ignorance that is being shown through your awful posting. But seriously you are just arguing for the sake of being on the other side of the argument. AGAIN NO ONE is arguing AGINST new animations. WE are ARGUING for the OPTION to DISABLE it. If you want all your pretty animations have at it. Those of us who actually play the game on any regular basis want it disabled.
I again bolded the important parts for you Octoven since you seem to need simple responses to your posts for you to understand. |

Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
11
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 02:03:00 -
[57] - Quote
Allison A'vani wrote:Octoven wrote:Another Octoven Splurge Post. If you have EVER been in a 500+ man fleet fight under 10% TiDi you would hate it too. Now I do know this is your ignorance that is being shown through your awful posting. But seriously you are just arguing for the sake of being on the other side of the argument. AGAIN NO ONE is arguing AGINST new animations. WE are ARGUING for the OPTION to DISABLE it. If you want all your pretty animations have at it. Those of us who actually play the game on any regular basis want it disabled. I again bolded the important parts for you Octoven since you seem to need simple responses to your posts for you to understand.
Bah, beat me to it. Pretty much this.
I'm pretty sure there's some kind of law against me quoting PL members for the purpose of agreeing with them, this many times in one day. |

Hannibalx
20
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 02:06:00 -
[58] - Quote
+1 The animation is lovely, but let us control it please. Otherwise its pretty lame. |

Elesth
13th Corp
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 02:09:00 -
[59] - Quote
turn it off turn it off turn it off turn it off turn it off turn it off turn it off |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
165
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 02:11:00 -
[60] - Quote
Allison A'vani wrote:Octoven wrote:Another Octoven Splurge Post. If you have EVER been in a 500+ man fleet fight under 10% TiDi you would hate it too. Now I do know this is your ignorance that is being shown through your awful posting. But seriously you are just arguing for the sake of being on the other side of the argument. AGAIN NO ONE is arguing AGINST new animations. WE are ARGUING for the OPTION to DISABLE it. If you want all your pretty animations have at it. Those of us who actually play the game on any regular basis want it disabled. I again bolded the important parts for you Octoven since you seem to need simple responses to your posts for you to understand.
So you want an option for this as well...how many ******* options do you want to disable features in the game? Where exactly to you draw your line at? |

Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
12
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 02:15:00 -
[61] - Quote
Octoven wrote:Allison A'vani wrote:Octoven wrote:Another Octoven Splurge Post. If you have EVER been in a 500+ man fleet fight under 10% TiDi you would hate it too. Now I do know this is your ignorance that is being shown through your awful posting. But seriously you are just arguing for the sake of being on the other side of the argument. AGAIN NO ONE is arguing AGINST new animations. WE are ARGUING for the OPTION to DISABLE it. If you want all your pretty animations have at it. Those of us who actually play the game on any regular basis want it disabled. I again bolded the important parts for you Octoven since you seem to need simple responses to your posts for you to understand. So you want an option for this as well...how many ******* options do you want to disable features in the game? Where exactly to you draw your line at?
Somewhere around "turning off this option would cause the client to crash". How's that? |

Bill Lane
Military Gamers
34
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 02:16:00 -
[62] - Quote
I agree. I like the feature, but there should be a checkbox in your scanner for continuous sweep or something along those lines.
And yes, it finding ice belts automatically makes it pretty stupid to move ice belts to anomalies, since there is no difference to warp to it. Really not a fan of that, and I'm not even an ice miner. In trying to make exploration better CCP, you have dumbed it down and made your changes irrelevant. Let's get this fixed please. http://www.militarygamers.com/ |

Allison A'vani
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
44
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 02:17:00 -
[63] - Quote
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Octoven wrote:Allison A'vani wrote:Octoven wrote:Another Octoven Splurge Post. If you have EVER been in a 500+ man fleet fight under 10% TiDi you would hate it too. Now I do know this is your ignorance that is being shown through your awful posting. But seriously you are just arguing for the sake of being on the other side of the argument. AGAIN NO ONE is arguing AGINST new animations. WE are ARGUING for the OPTION to DISABLE it. If you want all your pretty animations have at it. Those of us who actually play the game on any regular basis want it disabled. I again bolded the important parts for you Octoven since you seem to need simple responses to your posts for you to understand. So you want an option for this as well...how many ******* options do you want to disable features in the game? Where exactly to you draw your line at? Somewhere around "turning off this option would cause the client to crash". How's that?
+1 good sir. |

rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
100
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 02:17:00 -
[64] - Quote
Octoven wrote:So you want an option for this as well...how many ******* options do you want to disable features in the game? Where exactly to you draw your line at?
All the things. Obviously.
And honestly, why shouldn't we? Nothing wrong with a UI of options you can turn on/off at will. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw
http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
|

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
165
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 02:19:00 -
[65] - Quote
Allison A'vani wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Octoven wrote:Allison A'vani wrote:Octoven wrote:Another Octoven Splurge Post. If you have EVER been in a 500+ man fleet fight under 10% TiDi you would hate it too. Now I do know this is your ignorance that is being shown through your awful posting. But seriously you are just arguing for the sake of being on the other side of the argument. AGAIN NO ONE is arguing AGINST new animations. WE are ARGUING for the OPTION to DISABLE it. If you want all your pretty animations have at it. Those of us who actually play the game on any regular basis want it disabled. I again bolded the important parts for you Octoven since you seem to need simple responses to your posts for you to understand. So you want an option for this as well...how many ******* options do you want to disable features in the game? Where exactly to you draw your line at? Somewhere around "turning off this option would cause the client to crash". How's that? +1 good sir.
Right, ok lets all jump on the bandwagon then and waste dev time by implementing options for EVERYTHING since it is apparent that is the only way anyone will be happy -.- |

Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
12
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 02:20:00 -
[66] - Quote
Octoven wrote: Right, ok lets all jump on the bandwagon then and waste dev time by implementing options for EVERYTHING since it is apparent that is the only way anyone will be happy -.-
It would certainly save a lot of dev time having to respond to complaints and then implement options anyway for things that obviously cause problems. Sounds like it would be a break even proposition at worst, and a time saver at best. |

Marzsy vox
Requiem Liberators Moral Contradiction
3
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 02:37:00 -
[67] - Quote
Why wouldn't it come with a OFF button in the first place? Surely someone at CCP thought it might be a tad annoying. |

Captian Darknipples
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 02:44:00 -
[68] - Quote
If you have EVER been in a 500+ man fleet fight under 10% TiDi you would hate it too. Now I do know this is your ignorance that is being shown through your awful posting. But seriously you are just arguing for the sake of being on the other side of the argument. AGAIN NO ONE is arguing AGINST new animations. WE are ARGUING for the OPTION to DISABLE it. If you want all your pretty animations have at it. Those of us who actually play the game on any regular basis want it disabled.
Somewhere around "turning off this option would cause the client to crash". How's that?[/quote]
+1 good sir.[/quote]
Right, ok lets all jump on the bandwagon then and waste dev time by implementing options for EVERYTHING since it is apparent that is the only way anyone will be happy -.-[/quote]
Is it a priority for you to be an @ss in all of your posts. I seriously think you think CCP will give you free game time for being their hero. If you had any legitimate reasoning it would be worth reading your retorts. But every time a see a reply from you a little more of your true intelligence(lackthereof) seeps out.
Please just give us an option to turn the new camera angles/warp etc off. I dont think thats asking to much really. Why not make 100% of your customers happy with a simple check box option rather then 70%?
|

Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
19
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 02:45:00 -
[69] - Quote
Marzsy vox wrote:Why wouldn't it come with a OFF button in the first place? Surely someone at CCP thought it might be a tad annoying.
Because "you'll get used to it". It's the most asinine reasoning I've heard in a while. I could get used to being repeatedly jabbed in the eye with a stick too, but that doesn't mean I am going to pay someone to do it. |

Respen Seriavo
EVE University Ivy League
17
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 02:58:00 -
[70] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
Thank you for acknowledging those of us that have been annoyed. I can see how it'd be easy to write us off in all of the excitement of the expansion. It's good to know that our complaints are heard. I've become very passionate about EVE and would hate to see it go down the same paths as other great games that have self destructed by changing for the sake of change when they already had a good thing going. The core game of EVE is already FANTASTIC, the less you do to change that, the better.
Thanks again for the feedback! |

Glathull
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
223
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 03:00:00 -
[71] - Quote
Giving you options to turn things on and off means giving you options to make CCPs life miserable trying to test, trying to troubleshoot, and trying to fix problems. Everything you can turn on or off is another variable among already too many.
You are never going to get options for everything. It may be technically doable, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea. To repeat, the skill split is scheduled for the big Summer 2013 expansion. ~CCP Fozzie |

Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
21
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 03:02:00 -
[72] - Quote
Glathull wrote:Giving you options to turn things on and off means giving you options to make CCPs life miserable trying to test, trying to troubleshoot, and trying to fix problems. Everything you can turn on or off is another variable among already too many.
You are never going to get options for everything. It may be technically doable, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.
The same could be said for the gate and scanner animations. We see how that worked out. |

Regan Rotineque
Rl'yeh Interstellar Ltd. Mildly Sober
94
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 03:03:00 -
[73] - Quote
I tested this on SiSi and complained that there was no option for this.
Now on TQ with all the null anoms showing up. Now i get a giant blob of them - i say again...in a bubble or your in a fleet....or any ship that is not out actively looking for anoms/sigs etc... why do we need this?
Off button please
~R~ |

Lodestone Toyee
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 03:20:00 -
[74] - Quote
Its not a solution, but I discovered that you can halt the scan animation mid-scan by immediately engaging your warp drive after jumping or undocking. Since I do that about 80% of the time, it has not been too much of an annoyance. |

Lodestone Toyee
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 03:20:00 -
[75] - Quote
Its not a solution, but I discovered that you can halt the scan animation mid-scan by immediately engaging your warp drive after jumping or undocking. Since I do that about 80% of the time, it has not been too much of an annoyance.
EDIT: Oops, double post |

Inga Svenson
Mountain Movers Mining
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 03:32:00 -
[76] - Quote
Arduemont wrote:I was one of the people on the test server feedback threads complaining that it shouldn't occur every time you undock or jump through a gate... It's not even just the animation that annoys me. It ruins the point of scanning for those things in the first place. They made a great move when they put ice belts into anomalies but then they went and made the scan animation automatic so you see the sites as soon as you undock anyway. You might as well have left them in space normally, because everyone knows they're there. It ruins the point of scanning if it just is automatically found for you.
It suffices to say I wasn't the only person voicing this concern, but it still made it to the final cut. You'd have thought CCP had learnt it's lesson when they forced the CQ on everyone. Apparently not.
The people who learned that lesson were probably sacked so now they have to learn it again and again. |

Inga Svenson
Mountain Movers Mining
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 03:34:00 -
[77] - Quote
Joelleaveek wrote:As cool as the scanner and effect is, i just don't really want it if i don't plan on running any sites.
Oh come on! The animation is awesome when you're running a mission. You NEED to know that there is something to probe out there while 50 Angels are trying to blow you up.
|

Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
24
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 03:36:00 -
[78] - Quote
Inga Svenson wrote:Joelleaveek wrote:As cool as the scanner and effect is, i just don't really want it if i don't plan on running any sites. Oh come on! The animation is awesome when you're running a mission. You NEED to know that there is something to probe out there while 50 Angels are trying to blow you up.
I'm less worried about the Angels than the assholes who found the blueprints for their ships, and now want to blap my face with a Cynabal. |

Dark808bb
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 03:48:00 -
[79] - Quote
I love the new visuals. If people want to turn this stuff off that seems reasonable. But I would not bwe happy if they ever removed the features. |

Sloppy Podfarts
Hedion University Amarr Empire
32
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 03:53:00 -
[80] - Quote
Yigal Tzadok wrote: overheated from all this
 |

Dazire
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 03:59:00 -
[81] - Quote
Hi there CCP, is like to tell you my story. I'm enjoying being a fleet ceptor always like this role, so yesterday I take one of my inties to kill some fast targets around. I came to the system where find one. After a few jumps on objects he jumped to other system I immediately followed him. Jump... he's aligned... then BAM, this stupid scanner shows me all, I couldn't even realised where did he warp, coz of all this shiny stupid things in my eyes. How do I suppose to catch someone now, CCP? |

Enzaki
Phantom Squad Insidious Empire
16
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 04:13:00 -
[82] - Quote
OMG CCP you Guys relly like to **** the game up omg we need the old scaner system back this new system suk so bad 8 probes wtf you just need 4 to scan with fix that **** asap ........................................ |

Kaltero
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 04:21:00 -
[83] - Quote
It's disruptive and annoying in pvp.
I don't need my display plastered with a bunch of irrelevant carebear stuff. |

Cagot
Spelunkers
5
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 04:26:00 -
[84] - Quote
I like the warp and undock animations; I'm trying to get used to the lurching "follow the bouncing salvage drone" camera but failing to like it so far and yes I know about 'c' but I'm still trying for a while; and I love the new radial UI selection stuff wherever it happens. Moar of this please when you get a chance. The ice change doesn't seem like a show-stopper so far - we'll see what it does to the economy.
I'm dubious about making grav sites so easy to detect and jump to - speaking as an ex-wh resident, wormhole mining must be two orders of magnitude more hazardous right now.
I dislike the idea of having options for everything, because it requires more dev time to keep it all coordinated and tested when something else changes. One of my biggest headaches in software development was keeping parallel streams of code that had to do the same thing in different ways... typically for different OS versions, but the principle's the same. If it makes the system unusable, then fine, change it - but for the most part I'm happy to play along.
All in all I'm impressed with the new stuff. We'll see how it plays out.
|

Kitanga
Lowsec Border Marshals
102
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 04:28:00 -
[85] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
one thing that will 'annoy forever' is the probe formation defaulting at the sun when launching probes. it will never stop annoying me.
and the fact that i cant just launch 1 probe. |

Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
568
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 05:52:00 -
[86] - Quote
I don't even notice the scanner tbh. It's a non-issue. |

Aramatheia
European Nuthouse
108
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 05:57:00 -
[87] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
new undock button location is anoying! just saying
i like the new fancy space effects, some times i have wanted it off but then i think if i turn it off i cant see the cool stuff in space, then i think about it, and it sweeps and i see the pattern it draws in space and i accept it as something i can get used too! |

Li Tiger
Deep Space Resources Ltd.
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 06:04:00 -
[88] - Quote
Give me a option to turn jump ainimation off please  |

Lister Dalais
Assisted Genocide Unprovoked Aggression
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 06:10:00 -
[89] - Quote
Octoven wrote: However, here is the real issue regarding the auto scan. EVE Players hate being told they cant do something, they hate being told, "Here is a new awesome graphic, and you cant turn it off completely." It has nothing to do with the actual mechanic being a problem, its a matter of principle for most players. Sort of like the door and ship spinning was with Incarna. However, unlike Incarna, this feature is not taking anything away from the player's game, and it certainly is not an annoyance. You get one little sweep and it goes by so fast that if you arent paying attention, you'd never know it happened. Its fine the way it is.
The signatures cover up celestials making it hard or impossible to mouseover them to warp/scan from some places (e.g. gates)... Yes they disappear soon but it's not soon enough. |

Ankari Lytaken
Inept Astronomics
7
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 06:29:00 -
[90] - Quote
After about 10 jumps, I barely even noticed the animation anymore. The animation is not an issue at all.
The anomaly indicators in space can be a bit... too present for the short time that they stay in sight, especially in systems with lots of anomalies. I heard or read something about CCP saying that they want the overview to be essentially for PvP/targeting ships, while space should be used to navigate, but if the anomalies stick out so much, then I will be forced to continue to use the overview for fast/efficient navigation.
I feel they could be toned down a little. The pop-up also seems a bit odd to me, and the fact that I can't use the radial menu on them is also unintuitive (did I spell that right?) to me. |

Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
1504
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 09:06:00 -
[91] - Quote
To be honest, I love the new animation, and I the new "system scanner" UI and animation is amazing. And I will use it fairly frequently.
My gripe is that it forces me to use it each time I enter a system. Which means when I spot a hidden ore belt in system, I know that I didn't actually spot it, it was just shown to me just like it was shown to every other player that passed through that system. I didn't discover it, I put in no effort. And I know then that if I were to mine that belt that everyone is aware that it is there.
It's just not rewarding if it's just shoved in your face, and it takes away from the people who actively go out looking for stuff. The stuff that shows up now isn't "exploration" if you don't have to look for it. If you want them to be able to scan as soon as they enter the system then they can, by having the scan on permanently (love the fact you can do that), but don't have it running without us doing anything. That's just.... well... daft. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Venkhar Krard
Tuczniki Alfa
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 13:26:00 -
[92] - Quote
I have 2 toons, one PVP'er and one Trader/Producer. Its useless and annoying for both of them. Cool, flashy effects are ideal for something that is special and happens from time to time, not something you do every day, 40 times a day.
Please let me turn it off (scan and jump effects). The udock camera is also crap in pvp situations. |

Kalpel
KBM
42
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 14:14:00 -
[93] - Quote
Q 5 wrote:I want to turn the sun off...that never happened.
Hope you have better luck.
Noooooooo, we can't turn the sun off, are you crazy? we'll all die ........ but this scanner thing can go! lol
You failed to target nothing!-áGëívGëí online |

highonpop
Eve Liberation Force Fatal Ascension
486
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 14:14:00 -
[94] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
Don't get rid of it, just give us an on/off switch
The scanner and new probe interface is extremely helpful for exploration, but if you aren't doing exploration is extremely useless to have on all the time.
ON/OFF SWITCH!!
Something like :Open the scanner and have a button for the "discovery scanner", if it's ON then it functions as it does now. If it's off, then you dont see the scanner sweep or the stuff it finds. http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Very%20best%20of%20Makalu%20Zarya
The best advice I can give any Eve player, new or old, is to never ever ever read the general discussion subforum. It is a cancer on this game and should just be deleted. |

Siresa Talesi
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 17:58:00 -
[95] - Quote
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:Well I have not even finished to download the patch and already hate it. - Like some said, the first time a lot of things look neat, but even at the presentation I thought, "hmm, I am doing a lot of fast paced distribution missions to get faction missions and standings and that is like 12 missions and 140 jumps the hour ... some jumps just 5 seconds apart and every time this damn scan"
The same goes for the jump tunnel effect, I will really enjoy and love it on 1 jumps to missions, into fights, exploring and so forth, but during trade actions, distribution missions etc... its just a hell of annoying.
An option needs to be there, even if it is 'hit "space" to abort/interrupt' if you don't want it to be able to take it out completely.
Flashy crap no-one needs and is just annoying over time is what killed a lot of games - functionality first, effects an option. hardcore players will always choose speed and efficiency over graphic effects - and those are the ones populating the world and make it go round.
First thing on many games is setting graphics and res to max high and disable all effects, I hate a cluttered screen.
And I thank the design goods for the transparency option ++++++++++
This, very much this. Having things like the scan animation and the new gate animation repeat every single time I change a system is very annoying, especially if I'm on a long journey, doing nothing but jumping between systems. There needs to be an option to turn these features off.
Arduemont wrote:To be honest, I love the new animation, and the new "system scanner" UI and animation is amazing. And I will use it fairly frequently.
My gripe is that it forces me to use it each time I enter a system. Which means when I spot a hidden ore belt in system, I know that I didn't actually spot it, it was just shown to me just like it was shown to every other player that passed through that system. I didn't discover it, I put in no effort. And I know then that if I were to mine that belt that everyone is aware that it is there.
It's just not rewarding if it's just shoved in your face, and it takes away from the people who actively go out looking for stuff. The stuff that shows up now isn't "exploration" if you don't have to look for it. If you want them to be able to scan as soon as they enter the system then they can, by having the scan on permanently (love the fact you can do that), but don't have it running without us doing anything. That's just.... well... daft.
Another very good point. This is handing out information to everyone which at the very least should requrie the minimal effort of manually initiating a scan. Give us back the option of manually doing a system scan without a probe (the old d-scan), and stop the autoscanning! |

Emu Meo
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2013.06.05 18:03:00 -
[96] - Quote
Respen Seriavo wrote:Every... Single.... Jump.... I know you are proud of your new feature but is it really necessary to make my screen flash every 20 seconds during a long trip? I've only been back in game about an hour and a half and I cringe every time I see this animation. I'll give you that I thought "this is neat" to myself as I left a station for the first time ans saw it. But seriously, it sucks.... I'd much prefer to see it when called upon.
Please give me a way to turn it off or better yet, make it go away unless I decide to do a manual scan. Thanks! Why don't we just roll back every feature implemented in odyssey. It seems the only way to prevent this barrage of ridiculous posts incoming. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4226
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 18:04:00 -
[97] - Quote
Change is hard, drama is easy. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
14889
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 18:06:00 -
[98] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible. Because options from the start, are bad?
Do you ever learn?
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Dez Affinity
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
373
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Posted - 2013.06.05 18:16:00 -
[99] - Quote
I understand peoples complaint.
EVE's UI is already very 'busy' and cluttered. I see theyre trying to make use of radial menus to dissipate that some but eve is still short on the real estate market you have windows over windows that you ahve to minimise and open just to fit everything on when you need it.
Now you have these scanning things popping up all the time too when you might not necessarily want them to. I just think when you turn it off it should stay off not start back up when it wants to or after a gate jump. |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
1730
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Posted - 2013.06.05 18:21:00 -
[100] - Quote
It's a neat edition, but the scan seems to be causing a good bit of motion sickness in people, which sucks. Medical conditions don't just go away, but CCP shouldn't have to jump in ASAP and fix things right at the start of post-deployment. A week wait is probably a good idea and, if the medical complaints persist, then decide how to proceed.
For instance, maybe add a transparency option to the scan overlay, or simply be able to change the scan to a single line or just...nothing before reticle points show up. The other issue though is the gate animation..which might be harder to change.
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Rainbow D'tara
Left Ahead Li3 Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 18:25:00 -
[101] - Quote
Forgive me if I am wrong. I was under the impression it already had an on/off menu. The top option in the scanning radial menu should toggle it. I'm at work so I cannot confirm. |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
1730
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 18:29:00 -
[102] - Quote
Rainbow D'tara wrote:Forgive me if I am wrong. I was under the impression it already had an on/off menu. The top option in the scanning radial menu should toggle it. I'm at work so I cannot confirm.
It does but it shuts the reticles off. The reticles aren't the issue, but the circular scan action to reveal them that's causing some unpleasant vertigo like symptoms.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4227
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 18:42:00 -
[103] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Rainbow D'tara wrote:Forgive me if I am wrong. I was under the impression it already had an on/off menu. The top option in the scanning radial menu should toggle it. I'm at work so I cannot confirm. It does but it shuts the reticles off. The reticles aren't the issue, but the circular scan action to reveal them that's causing some unpleasant vertigo like symptoms. If the option is set to "Off" the scan sweep only occurs on undock/jumping once, it does not reoccur until you undock/jump again.
If it is set to "On" it will do a sweep that will pass through your visual range a few times a minute. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
44
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 18:47:00 -
[104] - Quote
Emu Meo wrote:Respen Seriavo wrote:Every... Single.... Jump.... I know you are proud of your new feature but is it really necessary to make my screen flash every 20 seconds during a long trip? I've only been back in game about an hour and a half and I cringe every time I see this animation. I'll give you that I thought "this is neat" to myself as I left a station for the first time ans saw it. But seriously, it sucks.... I'd much prefer to see it when called upon.
Please give me a way to turn it off or better yet, make it go away unless I decide to do a manual scan. Thanks! Why don't we just roll back every feature implemented in odyssey. It seems the only way to prevent this barrage of ridiculous posts incoming. If you amend to this to say "roll back all graphical changes other than ship skins" it gets my vote. |

Rainbow D'tara
Left Ahead Li3 Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 18:48:00 -
[105] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Rainbow D'tara wrote:Forgive me if I am wrong. I was under the impression it already had an on/off menu. The top option in the scanning radial menu should toggle it. I'm at work so I cannot confirm. It does but it shuts the reticles off. The reticles aren't the issue, but the circular scan action to reveal them that's causing some unpleasant vertigo like symptoms.
Then I completely agree. I don't think they should completely remove it though. It could be toggle-able along with the reticles. The entire function could turn on and off to scan the system. If people that experience vertigo while seeing it do so because they are rotating around their ships while in combat, having it toggle would fix the issue. From experience, while scanning systems I am almost always stationary. |

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
642
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 18:51:00 -
[106] - Quote
Djana Libra wrote:I thought we could just turn it off
CCP knows what's best for the game, you poor ignorant customers need to get used to that. 
The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today!
Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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Dark808bb
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.06.05 18:54:00 -
[107] - Quote
i cant believe you wussies are complaning about vertigo an crap. nobody has any sickness from this. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
2094
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Posted - 2013.06.05 18:56:00 -
[108] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
The loot spew mechanic for data/relic sites is annoying me now.
I'll be sure to post back in a few weeks to let you know it still annoys me.
It is not hard to separate this one in advance. You've been simplifying interfaces for months now to reduce needless clicking - and somehow this one is an improvement in gameplay?
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
925
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Posted - 2013.06.05 18:58:00 -
[109] - Quote
Do as I did ithe new awesome FLUFF that does crap, stay on F10 most of the time when you are not doing something critical.
Though the scanner is not too annoying for me, the new jump effect is (gets tiresome after the 10th jump to me).
F10 that crap to death. CCP being CCP.
Choices man, choices, never been against change, but choices give you flexibility, even if the choice is to blank out the new FLUFF. Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |

Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
1079
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 18:58:00 -
[110] - Quote
Respen Seriavo wrote: This was very insightful, constructive and original, I thank you for your contribution.
The inability to recognize sarcasm, a trait found in almost all E-UNI members, recruits, and graduates =P One of the oldest mission players in EVE designed a chart that explains stat priority in regards to mission running, compared Alpha, DPS, Ship Speed and Sig Radius and scores them. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24dbrfuWn1r86ax8o1_1280.jpg |

Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
44
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 18:59:00 -
[111] - Quote
Dark808bb wrote:i cant believe you wussies are complaning about vertigo an crap. nobody has any sickness from this. You're exactly right. A good chunk of the Eve community suddenly turned into hypochondriacs overnight. Thank you Dr. Dark, for your astute observation. Now, if you would be so kind, the rafter and rope are in room seven. |

Something Random
The Barrow Boys
361
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:05:00 -
[112] - Quote
OK - now i know for certain 50% of you are a bunch of moany wussies.
Thanks for that. "caught on fire a little bit, just a little." "Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangsn++ all here!" |

Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
339
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:08:00 -
[113] - Quote
I haven't logged in yet since patch day, looks like I will stress this for a while otherwise my tears will be harvested by CCP's UX team. New inventory: Getting better since version 1.2, but what about back and forward buttons? |

Veng3ance
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
14
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:15:00 -
[114] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
TBH man just fix it now. Its not going to become LESS annoying over time. Especially for people who don't give a crap about seeing signatures in space. For example now when I undock to fight some nerds I have watch dozens of red dots show up all over the screen. It's a confusing mess.
Just make a button to turn it off ffs.
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Veng3ance
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
15
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:25:00 -
[115] - Quote
Wait nevermind, realized I could turn off the overlay after I posted. This argument is just about the scan animation?.... **** it. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4228
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 19:33:00 -
[116] - Quote
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Dark808bb wrote:i cant believe you wussies are complaning about vertigo an crap. nobody has any sickness from this. You're exactly right. A good chunk of the Eve community suddenly turned into hypochondriacs overnight. Thank you Dr. Dark, for your astute observation. Now, if you would be so kind, the rafter and rope are in room seven. Overnight? Well yes, overnight about 10 years ago.... To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4228
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 19:36:00 -
[117] - Quote
Veng3ance wrote:Wait nevermind, realized I could turn off the overlay after I posted. This argument is just about the scan animation?.... **** it. Thus you see the reason for letting it ride for a couple of weeks.
That gives the people using it time to figure out how it actually works (including those that haven't actually looked twice at it yet), or alternatively to get used to it (which most people will). To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
538
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 19:45:00 -
[118] - Quote
If the camera rotation before gate warp is unsettling people's stomachs, I'm guessing CCP could solve that by having ships always warp to the side of the gate that they're going to jump through.
That would have some interesting gameplay side effects, particularly re: bubbling gates, but that might not be a bad thing. Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |

Respen Seriavo
EVE University Ivy League
32
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 19:51:00 -
[119] - Quote
Tom Gerard wrote:Respen Seriavo wrote: This was very insightful, constructive and original, I thank you for your contribution.
The inability to recognize sarcasm, a trait found in almost all E-UNI members, recruits, and graduates =P
If you'll take a look at the poster's original comment, I think it's very clear that his intent was not in any way, shape, or form sarcasm. Actually, I am having trouble seeing how you inferred sarcasm yourself. Or were you just looking for a reason to insult the Uni? If so, carry on. |

Respen Seriavo
EVE University Ivy League
32
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 19:59:00 -
[120] - Quote
Dark808bb wrote:i cant believe you wussies are complaning about vertigo an crap. nobody has any sickness from this.
I'm not sick from it, I'm just annoyed by it. There are several valid reasons other than any motion sickness people are experiencing.
For me it's about a feature being shoved down my throat. I am not setting out to do exploration every single time I leave a station, nor am I setting out to do exploration every single time I jump. It's just the logical step that CCP should have taken in the first place. If you want to do exploration, you should have to hit an exploration button. If not... do nothing. It just makes a lot more sense than the current system. |

Tasha Saisima
State War Academy Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2013.06.05 20:02:00 -
[121] - Quote
I havent flown yet since the patch do I don't know if it annoys me but I never explore so it still is useless to me |

Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
495
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Posted - 2013.06.06 08:03:00 -
[122] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
I still prefer the old font and wantz it back!!!!111!!11!!11111!1!1!1!111!! !
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961
EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |

Icarius
The Wings of Maak Defiant Legacy
9
|
Posted - 2013.06.06 09:47:00 -
[123] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
Do you realize what if you would have added a simple option to enable/disable this feature, every one would have been happy?
No need to wait weeks, no forun bashing, no tears, no one to say your devs are stupids ...
Seems you are back to the "no more ship spinning" logic.
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Blu Mar
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.06 10:11:00 -
[124] - Quote
Im in favor of a OFF button, its getting annoying when alot of things popup and u move mouse over and you get a big box blocking the Sun brackets and any other brackets by the anomoly, its interfering. |

Aldap
Club Bear
208
|
Posted - 2013.06.06 10:24:00 -
[125] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible. Please put an option to turn it off. My latest solo PvP videos |

Drachiel
Mercury LLC
31
|
Posted - 2013.06.06 10:25:00 -
[126] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
Racial scan colors.
All you have to do is tint the texture some.
Also make the disabled feature persistent. |

blood spine
Infinity Engine Sleeping Dragons
11
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:25:00 -
[127] - Quote
Adding in a simple button to run a system scan would be nice too just like the old system hate this automatic crap |

Pyrus Octavius
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:39:00 -
[128] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
Mr. Greyscale sir,
Why do the animations have to be so big, and so distinct? They are bigger than other meaningful objects in space, such as stations, asteroid belts, and planets. Also, the fact they are in space and generally have the same icons as stations imply they are warp-able objects.
Why do they have to be in color, when other meaningful objects in space, such as stations, asteroid belts, and planets can not be?
The animation lags my HD4000 graphics engine, and I have no way of turning it off, or dumbing the animations down. I am forced to play on a laptop, which is partly my fault as I don't have the means to provide myself with a better computer.
Please consider:
Adjusting the size of the the anomaly objects in space. Making the color boxes around them, less pronounced. Ability to turn off the screen scan or improving it in such a way in that it isn't so pronounced, make it more subtle and less frequent. Allow us to assign colors to other objects in space.
Thanks!
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xavier69
Stark Enterprises LLC
16
|
Posted - 2013.06.06 14:44:00 -
[129] - Quote
yep like CQ stupid devs of eve trying to push bullshet on us with out the option to turn it off =)
The fact the scanner comes on every jump and does that animation is annoying I am flying to a trade hub to sell shet i do not want to see that stupid scanner shet every time I jump. if i turn it off it needs to say the fuk off until i turn it back on agian
Ps: that nauseating jump animation needs an off button PRONTO! |

Yokai Mitsuhide
Smegnet Corp
4363
|
Posted - 2013.06.06 15:51:00 -
[130] - Quote
I like it, I don't find it a bother at all. But when I logged on today and undocked, the scan kept scanning...and scanning and scanning. It wouldn't stop, then I docked...and it kept scanning..the noise...THE NOISE!!! It wouldn't stop even when docked. lol. It fixed then I restarted my client though. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
2670
|
Posted - 2013.06.06 15:59:00 -
[131] - Quote
All I've been doing since the update is running the miner I am trying to sell (might as well get some use out of him).
I have the scanner turned on all the time.
And you know what? Like everything else we humans deal with that is a repetitive pattern, the scan fades to the point where you don't even see it after a while. I truly have to check and see if it's turned on at times.
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Kewso
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:04:00 -
[132] - Quote
love the new scan effects....
I've found so much content that I'd normally overlook.
Plus I love the graphic it reminds me of Battlestar galactica dradis, and the effect is very light transparent so it's not overbearing anyhow, just looks really cool and the effect is really fast anyhow
also I noticed if you click warp right after jumping it cancels the effect anyhow, plus you can click the scanner and on the small radial menu put a X over scanner and it stops it.
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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
918
|
Posted - 2013.06.06 16:07:00 -
[133] - Quote
I think they are cool.
Cest la vie. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1471
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:22:00 -
[134] - Quote
Drachiel wrote:Racial scan colors.
All you have to do is tint the texture some.
I'll be in my bunk... An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Kyle Valentine
Aliastra Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:25:00 -
[135] - Quote
Good for exploration. Useless and annoying for anything else. ON/OFF please. |

cpu939
Eternal Darkness. Fatal Ascension
38
|
Posted - 2013.06.06 16:30:00 -
[136] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
ccp lets hide our heads under the sand again just like with CQ, your new font still suck we just put up with it in hope that you will one day change it to something better or allow us to change the font size
my question is to ccp whoever, how hard would it be to code an off button that keeps it off? |

Dominous Nolen
11
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:39:00 -
[137] - Quote
Drachiel wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible. Racial scan colors. All you have to do is tint the texture some. Also make the disabled feature persistent.
I really like that idea. +1 |

Drachiel
Mercury LLC
34
|
Posted - 2013.06.06 16:42:00 -
[138] - Quote
Stitcher wrote:Drachiel wrote:Racial scan colors.
All you have to do is tint the texture some. I'll be in my bunk...
I hear they're thinking about opening up that door .. |

War Porcika
FREE GATES HUN Reloaded
17
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:35:00 -
[139] - Quote
Kyle Valentine wrote:Good for exploration. Useless and annoying for anything else. ON/OFF please. I can only agree. |

Male Duckface
The Tuskers
14
|
Posted - 2013.06.09 15:57:00 -
[140] - Quote
I will still be disliking this feature in multiple weeks. Typically, when I jump a gate, I make my warp with the mouse. If something is chasing me that can catch me, I will want to warp as soon as I load the other side. When there's something on the sensor overlay where I want to warp, the tooltip for that pops up instead of anything warpable, and I might not be able to get out in time. Sure, I could get my mechanics to the point where I'm always warping from right click menu, but I don't feel it would be as quick and I would have to make guesses what a celestial is. CCP could fix this by adding in a simple "Initial sensor overlay on jump-in" check box in the options and fix all of this for me though! |

Agrapena
Emerald Immersion
16
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Posted - 2013.06.09 20:51:00 -
[141] - Quote
my 0.2 isk
The scanning overlay m'larkey - Not against it. It gives you the feeling that your ship actually does something without your input. But, if that's what you are into and that's the profession you want to follow then option for people to turn it on/off would be a welcome addition particularly if you don't do any of that.
Jump animation - Saw it and quickly had a flashback from the old Microsoft classic Freelancer. Remember the Jump Gate anim from there? No? Look Here. I don't seem to remember many people complaining about feeling sick every time they jumped a gate.
Eve Online must evolve somehow. And 10 years down the line, I think CCP have come a long way. The fact that they do things that some people don't like is par for the course, same with any company...
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Mr Mutombo
Zulu Uprising
2
|
Posted - 2013.06.09 22:05:00 -
[142] - Quote
Respen Seriavo wrote:Quindaster wrote:CCP is full of idiots. I never scan for this anomalies and other cosmic sigs, why I need always to see this useless for me effect and load my processor with useless effects? I DO NOT NEED this scan effect after every jump, especially in fleet, especially if I never use this anomalies and signatures.
Make ability to turn off this scan effect because this overlay button on scan didn't work and not turn it off.
And like people told, this all good for your boss presentations but not for everyday and people who REALLY PLAY this game, because we all know CCP dev never play in eve every day. I don't know about them being idiots, they've gotten this far. I just don't understand these changes. When I'm not interested in scanning, just don't show me scanning. Why shove it down our throats. I'm not a huge fan of mini games or camo ships either... but that's another thread entirely. I'll just leave it at I simply don't like this expansion.
their continuing on the past success. they cant even change a lot of things cause they cant figure out their own game code, those guys must hav left the company or died. anyhow, looking at a lot things going on in the game for the past years they seem to changed course and probably cause different people run it now and its not going up. i would like to see this game be and do much better then it currently is but seems like they just stretching time |

Dullmeyr Prodomo
14
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Posted - 2013.06.09 22:44:00 -
[143] - Quote
I would like to see this feature, among others, made optional. I don-¦t need it and never will, as i have no interest in exploration at all. I don-¦t want a huge mouse-over-popup-thingy in the way when i try to select a celestial to warp to. I mean- wtf?
It seems to cause server sided lag as well, probably in association with the equally redundant gate jump animation nobody needs. I noticed 600-800 ships at the holy gates of Jita today not able to get in for a longer period of time- while Jita local was rather lower as usual on sundays at the given time.
The most expressive thing i-¦ve noticed so far is the structural dourness in terms of presenting a shiny nothing as awesome sh(i)t, ignoring the valid criticism of many of us players for days. Don-¦t tell me you had no time, i have noticed devs where replying to less controversial topics well enough. |

Adunh Slavy
937
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Posted - 2013.06.09 23:06:00 -
[144] - Quote
The scanner result icons in space are a bit BIG and do take away from the space scene IMO. Something a bit smaller perhaps. Maybe just remove all the concentric circles. How many are needed? |

Lost True
Paradise project
2337
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 00:26:00 -
[145] - Quote
I don't know WTF are you complaining about, those animations are fine.  in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?
|

Black Dranzer
242
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 01:52:00 -
[146] - Quote
I like the sweep, but it shouldn't be there when you have the anomaly/signature icons hidden. |

Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
60
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 03:19:00 -
[147] - Quote
Considering that you control every aspect of the ship from your pod, you should be able to set a scan interval. Give us a slider to adjust the amount of scans with hours available after the initial session change scan. Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought. |

Flamespar
Woof Club
609
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 04:09:00 -
[148] - Quote
I like both the new scan effect and jump transition. I hope both stay as is.
I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |

Maybelater Headache
Republic University Minmatar Republic
32
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 10:51:00 -
[149] - Quote
Not everybody likes it, it is possible to make it an option as already mentioned by ccp- so just do it. |

xttz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
106
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 11:48:00 -
[150] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people.
It's still bothering people this week.
When I'm moving multiple carriers between systems, the last thing I want to see after alt-tabbing is a load of flashing red boxes blinking around my ship in all directions. Before Odyssey this usually only happened if I jumped around after drinking a little too much, but now it's on every single jump.
Personally, I would rank the ability to move capships around with fewer heart attacks over the ability to conveniently run anoms in them. |

Sha'Uri Dark
Terra Incognita Unclaimed.
14
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 11:51:00 -
[151] - Quote
+1 for its annoying to have to re-hide the scan after every undock or jump. It's also very annoying that you can't move around or resize the columns in the scan window anymore. I don't really care how far away it is, what scan group, or group it is all I need to see is type and ID. Please give back the ability to move and resize the column's so I can expand the ones I want to fully see and hide the rest off the right side out of view.
This isn't rocket surgery when adding new stuff don't remove old functionality. |

Civic
Turalyon Plus
3
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 12:01:00 -
[152] - Quote
The scan signatures cover up other celestials in space. So if I'm chasing down someone and he warps off and I try to hover my mouse over the celestial they warped to all I see is a scan site thing that covers it up... and they get away....
Off button now, not a few weeks from now |

Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Tribal Band
688
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 12:33:00 -
[153] - Quote
J3ssica Alba wrote:Don't worry if there's gonna be a riot it won't be about the scanner but about a certain new employee
Hiring Policy is none of our business.
You want to make it your business, buy CPP. Hope you have deep pockets. |

Dyphorus
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
48
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 13:04:00 -
[154] - Quote
You know, I usually like to be productive... but it still amazes me the capacity for people in this game to whine about absolutely (*&^ing everything. It's 2 seconds when you enter a system. If it bothers you, blink
|

Maybelater Headache
Republic University Minmatar Republic
33
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 13:55:00 -
[155] - Quote
Dyphorus wrote:You know, I usually like to be productive... but it still amazes me the capacity for people in this game to whine about absolutely (*&^ing everything. It's 2 seconds when you enter a system. If it bothers you, blink
Stop whining, it could make you look stupid.
|

Erin Athonille
Infinicraft Industries
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 14:06:00 -
[156] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
My two cents: I've was happy to see the overlay animation when it was launched and now it's just part of the game. I see it when I need it and don't see it when I don't need it. I do, however, love the sensor overlays and the scan animation itself helps remind me it's coming.
I say leave it as is.
And the point on the font is a wonderful one. I much like the newer font than the old one. |

Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
269
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 14:15:00 -
[157] - Quote
Perhaps CCP's thinking is, "If we do not force, errr include this option to everyone, then what exactly does this expansion have to offer them?"
Maybe if CCP played their own game, then maybe they would notice how asinine these graphical effects are affecting players' gaming. |

alexi turov
Neutronium Alchemist's
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 14:26:00 -
[158] - Quote
While I have no issue with the new animation; automatic scanning on every undock and jump gate is a little too much, IMO.
I'd rather see it mapped to a button similar to D-Scan.
Also, the red 'wormholes in space' anom icons should be re-worked to make them more subtle - if they are to be kept on the overlay. |

Yusef Brion
Big Yellow Pidgeon Inc.
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 21:44:00 -
[159] - Quote
Octoven wrote:Allison A'vani wrote:Octoven wrote:Another Octoven Splurge Post. If you have EVER been in a 500+ man fleet fight under 10% TiDi you would hate it too. Now I do know this is your ignorance that is being shown through your awful posting. But seriously you are just arguing for the sake of being on the other side of the argument. AGAIN NO ONE is arguing AGINST new animations. WE are ARGUING for the OPTION to DISABLE it. If you want all your pretty animations have at it. Those of us who actually play the game on any regular basis want it disabled. I again bolded the important parts for you Octoven since you seem to need simple responses to your posts for you to understand. So you want an option for this as well...how many ******* options do you want to disable features in the game? Where exactly to you draw your line at?
Command prompt EVE.
"You have undocked" > _ |

Maybelater Headache
Republic University Minmatar Republic
38
|
Posted - 2013.06.11 06:22:00 -
[160] - Quote
Yusef Brion wrote: Command prompt EVE.
"You have undocked" > _
>^q_
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Liam Mirren
619
|
Posted - 2013.06.11 10:16:00 -
[161] - Quote
Yusef Brion wrote:Command prompt EVE.
"You have undocked" > _
It is pitch black, you are likely to be ganked by a Tornado. > _ Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
|

Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Tribal Band
689
|
Posted - 2013.06.11 10:49:00 -
[162] - Quote
I like it .. Adds a degree of immersion for me. The colour is subdued, and doesn't overpower the display/ui The things identified are easily ignored, if you don't want to access them, and they are displayed in a way that doesn't clutter up the overview.
These forum's have degenerated a lot recently. There's too much crying over inconsequential and trivial things.
|

Kyle Valentine
Aliastra Gallente Federation
32
|
Posted - 2013.06.11 11:09:00 -
[163] - Quote
When i don't explore, i don't explore. I don't need big red advertisements in my space or a skipped animation each jump. Automated things are bad. We already have the button, juste make it turn the thing OFF. |

Aston Martin DB5
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
18
|
Posted - 2013.06.11 11:17:00 -
[164] - Quote
Respen Seriavo wrote:Every... Single.... Jump.... I know you are proud of your new feature but is it really necessary to make my screen flash every 20 seconds during a long trip? I've only been back in game about an hour and a half and I cringe every time I see this animation. I'll give you that I thought "this is neat" to myself as I left a station for the first time ans saw it. But seriously, it sucks.... I'd much prefer to see it when called upon.
Please give me a way to turn it off or better yet, make it go away unless I decide to do a manual scan. Thanks!
I've not had any issues with this cool overlay. ALso what FLASH? It looks like a system sweep to me.
|

Regan Rotineque
Rl'yeh Interstellar Ltd. Mildly Sober
101
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 04:14:00 -
[165] - Quote
No issues ? do you live in null? are you forced to look at blobs and blobs of icons covering the stars so you cannot sort the celestials out from the anoms and sigs.....
Still awaiting an off button for this.
|

Bru Swillis
Titan Technologies Inc
4
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 04:37:00 -
[166] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
It's not a new font, it's an intrusive and annoying feature tht we should be able to choose whether we want it or not. Those tht like it, great, those who don't shouldn't have it forced on them.
Same goes for the new sounds. Ever since the patch i'm playing without sound... needles to say i'm not gonna pay for 4 accounts to play with no sound and an annoying overlay popping up every time i jump or undock.
Seriously all this could so easely be avoided by giving people the choice. But tht seems to be something you refuse to learn.
Really bummed out with what you guys been doing lately and tht's a damn shame because i loved this game. Just seems to be going downhill with the last few patches/ "expansions" |

John B'dlam
Turing Machines Turing Tested
3
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 07:45:00 -
[167] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible. There's a difference between "gah! change bad, go back! ... nm, this is better" and "Ooh, neat effect! ... Hmm. ... Oh not a-freaking-gain". The second is very much my experience with the scan sweep. I've been moving a lot of stuff around lately, and to my hauler alt, the shiny signatures blinking in and out are completely irrelevant.
Now, if some dscan information were integrated in this sweep, and I could see a hint of a blob of battleships offgrid in the proximity of the gate, I would _never_ turn it off, even if I'd have to take the cosmic signatures with the information I actually want. |

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
310
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 08:19:00 -
[168] - Quote
Seriously, CCP should just bring back the Second Genesis client and let people play on that if they don't like the updates. All the old textures and all the old everything. It'll stop so much needless complaining. Except that then they'd complain that development of new stuff has slowed down because CCP needs to do extra work catering to their demands. |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
149
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 08:38:00 -
[169] - Quote
Respen Seriavo wrote:Every... Single.... Jump.... I know you are proud of your new feature but is it really necessary to make my screen flash every 20 seconds during a long trip? I've only been back in game about an hour and a half and I cringe every time I see this animation. I'll give you that I thought "this is neat" to myself as I left a station for the first time ans saw it. But seriously, it sucks.... I'd much prefer to see it when called upon.
Please give me a way to turn it off or better yet, make it go away unless I decide to do a manual scan. Thanks!
Dat scan animation... I thought You could turn that of by clicking on the scanner symbol and selecting the appropriate option... There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |

Kewso
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
13
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 17:54:00 -
[170] - Quote
you can...
just click the scan icon go up and put a red X on the icon
red X = no longer displayed...
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Maybelater Headache
Republic University Minmatar Republic
40
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 20:46:00 -
[171] - Quote
Kewso wrote:you can...
just click the scan icon go up and put a red X on the icon
red X = no longer displayed...
Even your trolling is terribad.
|

Mata Hotaki
Garoun Exploration LLC
7
|
Posted - 2013.06.13 18:12:00 -
[172] - Quote
Just like the nausea-inducing new jump animation, this has to be optional. With a checkbox.
CCP, you did it right with the nausea-inducing camera tracking: there is a checkbox for that, and I don't see anyone complaining. I am sure there are people who actually like it.
Please do the same to the scan animation and jump animation. They are distracting, especially when multi-boxing.
To all "apologists" in the thread: if you like the animations, or want to buy a new GPU every time there is an EVE patch - good for you! For the rest of us, choice cannot be a bad thing. |

Respen Seriavo
EVE University Ivy League
49
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 14:07:00 -
[173] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
2 weeks later and it's still an issue, for me anyway. On a 15 jump trip right now with an annoying scan flashing every jump. I've also done some PVP recently and have to agree with what others have posted here; it's very distracting when you are trying to make quick decisions in fleet. Just give us an option already.... please?
|

Tom Willson
4 Inches Of PAIN
1
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 14:28:00 -
[174] - Quote
I seem to remember a certain "on-board ship scanner" that used to come with a button to manually order your ship to start scanning. This would allow for you to scan when you actually want to look for things, only with the new, fast, Odyssey system range scan instead of the old 8 AU one. |

SKINE DMZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
10
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 14:33:00 -
[175] - Quote
Seems like some people would rather put everything off and play text based eve, stop whining you old crybabies, this game is actually unbelievable in the amount of people who feel like they should have this and should have that, haven't seen this many old people whine in one place since I been at the retirement home to visit mum |

Respen Seriavo
EVE University Ivy League
49
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 14:52:00 -
[176] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:Seems like some people would rather put everything off and play text based eve, stop whining you old crybabies, this game is actually unbelievable in the amount of people who feel like they should have this and should have that, haven't seen this many old people whine in one place since I been at the retirement home to visit mum
So when someone tinkers with something you absolutely love and turn it into an annoying experience, you should just keep your mouth shut and grin and play? Sorry, but I'm no sheep. Things keep moving in the direction of flash and I'll walk, but I'm at least going to resist negative changes and try to reason with CCP, because I do love this game.
Text based EVE? Right. It's more that I think those of us are looking to preserve or push for better graphical content. This overlay that looks like a particle effect doesn't improve the graphics, it's just flash and to some of us very irritating. If anything, I'd push for better background/ship textures rather than the kind of effects that clutter up most MMO's. One of the major appeals of EVE is that it isn't full of this visual garbage. |

Abishai
26
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 15:27:00 -
[177] - Quote
I dont mind the scan animation but the graphic for un-probed sites is horrific and shouldn't have been added in the first place. |

Evei Shard
184
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 15:48:00 -
[178] - Quote
What scan animation?
My mind put that on ignore about 3 days after it came out. No help from CCP required.
Perhaps if you didn't focus 100% of your attention on seeing it every time you undock or come out of a jump, you'd get over it.
Profit favors the prepared |

Maybelater Headache
Republic University Minmatar Republic
49
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 16:00:00 -
[179] - Quote
So i can assume you would support the idea making this animation fully optional for people with less limited cognitive abilities. As you don-¦t notice it anyway. |

Logan Brewster
Personal Future Confectioners
9
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 16:04:00 -
[180] - Quote
EVE players are a hard cynical bunch of mean people in an unforgiving universe.
Also use hardware stolen from bankrupt supermarket ten years ago, suffer from all sorts of sicknesses so their shrinks get rich. "The warp animation made me siiiick..." *sniff*
Otherwise like to tell noobs to HTFU... |

Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
593
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 16:05:00 -
[181] - Quote
Evei Shard wrote:What scan animation?
My mind put that on ignore about 3 days after it came out. No help from CCP required.
Perhaps if you didn't focus 100% of your attention on seeing it every time you undock or come out of a jump, you'd get over it.
hard to get over it when it blocks your path when trying to see whats on different clusters in space apon jump in.. this is another thing like the jump cloud that needs an off button OMG when can i get a pic here
|

Aleria Angelis
Alexylva Paradox
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 16:13:00 -
[182] - Quote
I really don't see what the problem is, I LOVE the new graphic but then I spend most my time in a WH.
Options are always good so maybe CCP should add an off button.
On that note can we get the client to remember that I ALWAYS want the scan graphic overlays as I currently have to keep turning it on manually and its tedious to have to do so everytime I logon/jump. |

Kharie Nomb
MEPS Inc.
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 17:07:00 -
[183] - Quote
I would like the new scanner if I was actually scanning for something! But since I'm more of an industrialist and spend a lot of time hauling things to and fro...I see no use for the scanner on , say... a Freighter!! LOL ...Comon CCP , if you are going to try and cram something on us at least give us the option to turn it off if WE (the paying customer) do not like it!!
Heres an idea.....if you would just fix all the known bugs that would really help the game out!! That should only take a couple of years!!
BTW whatever happened to Walking in Stations?? It would be nice to be able to interact with other players somewhere besides space..ya think maybe that we could get a priority on that instead of say , another ship scanner upgrade? Just a thought...:)
Thanks |

Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
141
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 17:10:00 -
[184] - Quote
Kharie Nomb wrote: BTW whatever happened to Walking in Stations?? It would be nice to be able to interact with other players somewhere besides space..ya think maybe that we could get a priority on that instead of say , another ship scanner upgrade? Just a thought...:)
Thanks
Just...no. |

Jason Novork
Novafox Union
7
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 17:23:00 -
[185] - Quote
Would like to chip in with this.
I think its great... if you're actively scanning but the every single jump gets pretty old pretty fast to be honest. It should only show when activated in the UI. |

Alorae Cloudwalker
Cloudwalker Enterprises
3
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 18:02:00 -
[186] - Quote
Exploration really IS cool, and I respect the players that want to partake in it, I don't.
Constant scanning on system arrival ISN'T cool, breaks the immersion and ruins the cool factor of the beautiful scenery that makes Eve a great game.
However, options ARE cool, so +1 here for an option to disable. |

Regan Rotineque
Rl'yeh Interstellar Ltd. Mildly Sober
113
|
Posted - 2013.06.19 06:05:00 -
[187] - Quote
Obligatory...need off button post |

Alexander the Great
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
81
|
Posted - 2013.06.22 12:01:00 -
[188] - Quote
Confirming this animation still bothers me. As well as jump tunnel animation. Please let us turn it off.
Will return in a month to post this again 07 |

Kyle Valentine
Aliastra Gallente Federation
38
|
Posted - 2013.06.24 12:56:00 -
[189] - Quote
The wall of pixels is always here and always need to go. Fix "The Button". |

Infinite Force
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
631
|
Posted - 2013.06.24 15:12:00 -
[190] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible. It's been a "few" weeks.
People still ask for the "OFF" button.
Personally: - I like the sweeping scanner, but I don't want to see the signatures in space most of the time. It's nice to get oriented in a system, but annoying to align to a celestial when it's crowed out by an anom.
- I don't care about the jump transition animations unless it's more than 5 jumps, then it's annoying.
Font sizes do not directly impact game-play, they are aesthetics. HROLT CEO Live Free; Die Proud
Hammer Mineral Compression - The only way to go! |

Respen Seriavo
EVE University Ivy League
51
|
Posted - 2013.06.26 03:56:00 -
[191] - Quote
Very ready for this to go. I may not post every day, but every time I see the animation I am no less annoyed. Please just make it a toggle... no one is scanning full time. |

Cipher Deninard
The Scope Gallente Federation
14
|
Posted - 2013.06.26 04:17:00 -
[192] - Quote
Personally I've loved most of the stuff in the new expansion. The jump effect being possibly my favourite thing. I have really enjoyed the new exploration features but I must say one of the most disappointing things I found was realising that even when I clicked the "Hide scan overlay" button the system would still scan at every jump.
I like the new scan effect, a lot. But I don't like it being around when I'm not actually exploring. I would add to any CCP Devs who might read this (however unlikely) that if you don't know whether or not to include an on/off toggle for an effect, it is always better to have one. |

Cap Tyrian
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
38
|
Posted - 2013.06.26 04:53:00 -
[193] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible.
This never gets old ^_^/ |

Respen Seriavo
EVE University Ivy League
57
|
Posted - 2013.07.03 15:03:00 -
[194] - Quote
Cipher Deninard wrote:Personally I've loved most of the stuff in the new expansion. The jump effect being possibly my favourite thing. I have really enjoyed the new exploration features but I must say one of the most disappointing things I found was realising that even when I clicked the "Hide scan overlay" button the system would still scan at every jump.
I like the new scan effect, a lot. But I don't like it being around when I'm not actually exploring. I would add to any CCP Devs who might read this (however unlikely) that if you don't know whether or not to include an on/off toggle for an effect, it is always better to have one.
Agreed about the "hide scan overlay" button. Why can't it actually fully hide the scan overlay? |

Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
4
|
Posted - 2013.07.03 15:13:00 -
[195] - Quote
I dont even notice it, sry Guys i accept that the Jump Animation may cause Motion Sickness but this blue Wall isnt a Problem at all!
Stop whining about everything this is Eve not Counter Strike! |

Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
419
|
Posted - 2013.07.03 15:27:00 -
[196] - Quote
Lephia DeGrande wrote:I dont even notice it, sry Guys i accept that the Jump Animation may cause Motion Sickness but this blue Wall isnt a Problem at all!
Stop whining about everything this is Eve not Counter Strike!
the blue wall of anoms is a problem for people who dont explore. its a **** up that should have had an off button.
|

cynthia greythorne
Twilight Labs Unsung Voices
26
|
Posted - 2013.07.03 17:02:00 -
[197] - Quote
I don't explore. I don't want to explore. I actually loathe exploring. So, yes, please, for an 'off' button for an annoying distraction. |

Contagion
Chaotic Dynamics
11
|
Posted - 2013.07.03 17:02:00 -
[198] - Quote
Scan Animation NOT enough! I want blinkers and sirens each time it finds something! And if the result is a grav site I want an announcer voice to shout "Eve Rocks!"
|

Naes Mlahrend
KINGS OF EDEN Sev3rance
109
|
Posted - 2013.07.03 17:57:00 -
[199] - Quote
Yes, an Auto Scan on/off switch would be grand. 90% of the time I don't care what's out there but the times that do, *BAM* I can hit the scan button.
Not saying it doesn't look cool but e v e r y t i m e is kind of overkill. |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
476
|
Posted - 2013.07.03 18:14:00 -
[200] - Quote
CCP, I propose that you didn't go far enough. It's obvious by now that you hate giving the players options, and that 'sandbox' is really a code word for 'Have it our way.' As such, I propose that upon entering a new system, not only should the windshield wiper reveal all, the player's ship should automatically be warped into the nearest signature or anomaly. (Since exploration is all about spoon feeding. I bet Lewis and Clark are pissed that they didn't have the windshield wiper.) Rifterlings Corporation is now recruiting pilots for faction warfare solo & small gang frigate PvP. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
15338
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Posted - 2013.08.07 09:59:00 -
[201] - Quote
Still would like the option to turn this off Mr Greyscale. 
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1836
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Posted - 2013.08.07 10:17:00 -
[202] - Quote
Dude, if you're still noticing this, then it's self-inflicted. I literally don't see the scanner sweep any more unless I look for it. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Brother Mercury
Fire on the Mountain
7
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Posted - 2013.08.07 13:23:00 -
[203] - Quote
I too would like the option to turn off the automatic scan animation. While it's animation generally has a minimal impact on performance, it can be, and has been (for me) the tipping point and extra strain on my PC in large fleets when loading a new system. |

Icarus Able
Traverse Holdings
63
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Posted - 2013.08.07 13:35:00 -
[204] - Quote
Yeh let me turn it off.Its still annoying. |

flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels R O G U E
1287
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Posted - 2013.08.07 13:46:00 -
[205] - Quote
Respen Seriavo wrote: I'll give you that I thought "this is neat" to myself as I left a station for the first time ans saw it.
First time i saw it i immediatly said to some friends 'Cool , this is gonna be really annoying after a few times' ....
The odd thing is i actually don't 'notice' it any more.As most stuff it just needs getting used to though i can imagine that for some people with a 'visual handicap' to the eyes it would be irritating every single time.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Yogsoloth
Percussive Diplomacy Samurai Pizza Cats
133
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Posted - 2013.08.07 16:24:00 -
[206] - Quote
This is still the single most annoying feature of Odyssey.
Please make it go away. |

Icarus Able
Traverse Holdings
64
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Posted - 2013.08.07 16:25:00 -
[207] - Quote
flakeys wrote:Respen Seriavo wrote: I'll give you that I thought "this is neat" to myself as I left a station for the first time ans saw it. First time i saw it i immediatly said to some friends 'Cool , this is gonna be really annoying after a few times' .... The odd thing is i actually don't 'notice' it any more.As most stuff it just needs getting used to though i can imagine that for some people with a 'visual handicap' to the eyes it would be irritating every single time.
try ignoring it in a system with 20+ anoms and as many sigs. |

Alexander the Great
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
114
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Posted - 2013.08.07 19:54:00 -
[208] - Quote
More than a month passed but I'm still very annoyed with jump and scan animations. |

Derp Action
Hedion University Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.08.07 19:56:00 -
[209] - Quote
Yep, it's bugging the hell out of me too. |

Spurty
927
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Posted - 2013.08.07 20:12:00 -
[210] - Quote
Additionally, If I have probes out, never let planets and moons grab the cursor so I can't move the probes around.
Ggagahahahha infuriating issue --- GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥ GÇò Philip K. **** |

Arduemont
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1667
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Posted - 2013.08.07 20:52:00 -
[211] - Quote
Nice to see this thread is getting attention again, but I doubt CCP will actually do anything about it. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Drax Concrilla
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
13
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Posted - 2013.08.07 21:20:00 -
[212] - Quote
Jumping on the "let us turn it off" bandwagon. The how it hijacksnoying but what's more annoying is how it hijacks sections of space - if you hover your mouse too near one of the popups it shows you that anom when you really wanted the station/planet/etc behind it. |

flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels R O G U E
1296
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Posted - 2013.08.07 21:28:00 -
[213] - Quote
Icarus Able wrote:flakeys wrote:Respen Seriavo wrote: I'll give you that I thought "this is neat" to myself as I left a station for the first time ans saw it. First time i saw it i immediatly said to some friends 'Cool , this is gonna be really annoying after a few times' .... The odd thing is i actually don't 'notice' it any more.As most stuff it just needs getting used to though i can imagine that for some people with a 'visual handicap' to the eyes it would be irritating every single time. try ignoring it in a system with 20+ anoms and as many sigs.
I jump wormholes and null a lot so yes i am used to that but as said i can understand if people have a problemm with it.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Gun Dulf
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:35:00 -
[214] - Quote
I just wonder why making this an option can be such a big deal. |

Arduemont
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1667
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:47:00 -
[215] - Quote
To me, it's not even an issue of the visual.. It's the fact that it's handed to us and automatic whether we like it or not. I don't want everyone to see all the anomalies in system as soon as they jump in regardless of whether they are looking for them or not.
Like I think I have said before, CCP made a smart move taking ICE belts and moving them to anomalies, and making the hidden ore belts scannable without having to use probes was a lovely addition. But when you made the scan automatic, those two things now show up to everyone instantly anyway. What was the point in moving the ice belts out of the drop down menu if they are going to be view-able by everyone who jumps into the system anyway?
If I always want to see these things when I jump in, then turning it on perma-run is great and saves a lot of button spamming.. but showing it to everyone whether they like it or not takes away from the point of it and it becomes another area of the game where experience means nothing. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1843
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:20:00 -
[216] - Quote
seriously, are you all hyper-aware of your surroundings, or am I just oblivious? Because unless I actually look for the anomalies, scanner sweep, jump animation and whatever, I really don't notice them any more.
I still do pay attention to the anomalies and signatures because they've become central to my gameplay, and because I still think the jump animation is ludicrously frakking cool, but it takes a conscious effort now, otherwise they're just part of the background.
I'm telling you guys - if this is bothering you, it's self-inflicted bother. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
1256
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:39:00 -
[217] - Quote
im not fond of it but i can live with it - a toggle in the menu would be lovely Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
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Solaris Ecladia
High Flyers Ex Cinere Scriptor
151
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Posted - 2013.08.08 15:15:00 -
[218] - Quote
Its been more than a few weeks, turn it off |

Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
25
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:07:00 -
[219] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible. Hear that guys? We need to spam till they get sick of it. |

Arduemont
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1671
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:55:00 -
[220] - Quote
Erufen Rito wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible. Hear that guys? We need to spam till they get sick of it.
If it's spamming they need, it's spamming they'll get. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
950
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Posted - 2013.08.08 18:07:00 -
[221] - Quote
It's not that I care whether or not the animation happens, I'm cool with that. The sole thing I can't stand about the scanning system is that it takes click precedent over all in-space brackets, regardless of whether you're directly hovering over a bracket and not the actual anomaly or not. I don't particularly care about anomalies when I'm PVPing, and not being able to quickly click a close bracket upon a jump-in because a useless ****ing anomaly on the scanner is taking my clicks instead is annoying as hell. Toshiro Ozuwara > GOon cowards come fight Toshiro Ozuwara > Oh wait, you only camp when you got numberssss
I would fully support account bans by ccp for meta type stuff like this. |

Dyvim Slorm
Coven of the Morrigan
146
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Posted - 2013.08.08 18:27:00 -
[222] - Quote
It really does need an option to turn it off, it can get annoying if you have no interest in anomalies |

Regan Rotineque
Rl'yeh Interstellar Ltd. Mildly Sober
149
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Posted - 2013.08.08 20:25:00 -
[223] - Quote
Asked for off button when testing......asked for off button on TQ
Asking for off button again.
Only needs to be on when I want or actually care to go scanning.
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Arduemont
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1674
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Posted - 2013.08.08 22:10:00 -
[224] - Quote
I think it should be off by default and you have to turn it on. That makes infinitely more sense. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Yogsoloth
Percussive Diplomacy Samurai Pizza Cats
134
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Posted - 2013.08.09 13:42:00 -
[225] - Quote
Of all the proposed changes or fixes over the years or on the new big list never once did I see anyone say;
"What I really need is an automatic scanner to sweep the system after every jump or undock"
For those of us that don't explore it is a total and unnecessary annoyance that just won't seem to go away.
Make it stop already. |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1883
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:12:00 -
[226] - Quote
So frakking IGNORE IT.
great ghost of the skies people, it's just a background thing. It is literally the easiest thing in the game to ignore as far as I'm concerned. If you're finding it even remotely intrusive then that is because you WANT it to be intrusive. you're jabbing a fork into your own arm and then complaining that it hurts
The "off" button is in your head. Go ahead and press it. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Tlat Ij
Hedion University Amarr Empire
41
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:12:00 -
[227] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible. My beef is that I turned it off and it doesn't turn off! I can see how its useful when I use it on my scanning character, but when I turn it off because I am not looking for sites it needs to ******* turn off! |

Seetesh
ENEBRIATED MINERS Ltd
67
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Posted - 2013.08.09 15:00:00 -
[228] - Quote
Octoven wrote:Respen Seriavo wrote:Every... Single.... Jump.... I know you are proud of your new feature but is it really necessary to make my screen flash every 20 seconds during a long trip? I've only been back in game about an hour and a half and I cringe every time I see this animation. I'll give you that I thought "this is neat" to myself as I left a station for the first time ans saw it. But seriously, it sucks.... I'd much prefer to see it when called upon.
Please give me a way to turn it off or better yet, make it go away unless I decide to do a manual scan. Thanks! You should have seen it BEFORE they changed it, it was bright green. Be thankful they toned the color down some and get over it.
I remember a time when I needed sunglasses or was forced to dim my monitor with some stars and has clouds. |

Respen Seriavo
EVE University Ivy League
65
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:19:00 -
[229] - Quote
Nice to see this thread alive and kicking, was just playing today and it annoyed me as usual. Came here in hopes someone else was still complaining and this thread was on the first page. Good to see that others are just as annoyed, a little bummed it hasn't warranted an off switch yet though. |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1886
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:21:00 -
[230] - Quote
Frankly, at this point I would hope that CCP's default response to all the whiners who demand an off switch for every last feature of the game is "lol, no. HTFU." An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
309
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:45:00 -
[231] - Quote
Stitcher wrote:Frankly, at this point I would hope that CCP's default response to all the whiners who demand an off switch for every last feature of the game is "lol, no. HTFU." Because CCP knows that if they do not force everything onto the players - including that star gate warp effect, then these subpar features in this half-assed ~expansion~ would have had many, many people turn them off after a day or so of "Ooh, ahh, nice..." *turns them off permanently*. |

Gun Dulf
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.08.09 21:52:00 -
[232] - Quote
CCPs default response is " " so i-¦ll take the part of servicing you: lol, no. HTFU.
ISK donations welcome. |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1909
|
Posted - 2013.08.10 00:37:00 -
[233] - Quote
As it should be, really. I happen to think people need to learn how to ignore features they don't use rather than needing a special "DURR I NOT DO SCAN GAEMS" button. CCP meanwhile need to keep up the appearance of being professionals. The poor bar stewards.
Happily for me, as a player rather than a dev, I'm at liberty to say that if the system DRADIS sweep bothers somebody, then the irritation they feel is self-inflicted, and as such they need to learn how to not be a colossal infant. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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RangerGord
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services The Possum Lodge
17
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Posted - 2013.08.10 03:26:00 -
[234] - Quote
The issue i have with their standard response of "we will see how many people are still complaining about this in a couple of months" is awful... since most of the people that don't agree with many of these changes were told countless times on the test server feedback that "you just don't like change, so accept it cause its not changing"... even though they were just changing for the sake of change.
To give it a couple months and see how many people are still complaining is not a good solution by any means, all that means is they are just taking the safe bet that everyone will get tired of them ignoring the feedback as usual and eventually give up trying to improve underdeveloped/unwanted/unneeded features. Like the font, it was smaller, crisper, much cleaner, and i didn't have to have all my overview tabs expanded halfway across the screen to read everything even when scaled to 90%. We just got tired of dealing with CCP's "we know better than you" attitude towards feedback on new things.
For anyone that says otherwise, I dare you to find a dev post in the test server feedback that is supportive of the feedback instead of shutting people down or responding to dumb off topic posts with even dumber more off topic responses for the sake of putting a dev tag on a thread to say they are active in it.
My faith in CCP's acceptance of feedback was pretty much permanently lost after the unified inventory debacle where 95% of test feedback said it was nowhere near ready... and when it hit the live server after a mere 2 weeks of testing they found out: "omgwtfbbq, maybe all those people that told us it wasn't ready were right, we will get this working, its our highest priority..." but then several months later key elements were still not right and then they just gave up because they had other things to break and change for no reason.
So they have created the environment where feedback is not accepted and turned down as purely resistance to change, this type of environment does not usually tend to give people a reason to continue providing feedback after long periods of not being listened to. |

Gun Dulf
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.08.10 09:17:00 -
[235] - Quote
Derp.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
4201
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Posted - 2013.08.10 09:30:00 -
[236] - Quote
I still really like the scan animation. . |

Rhea Rankin Nolen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.08.10 09:32:00 -
[237] - Quote
Stitcher wrote:As it should be, really. I happen to think people need to learn how to ignore features they don't use rather than needing a special "DURR I NOT DO SCAN GAEMS" button. CCP meanwhile need to keep up the appearance of being professionals. The poor bar stewards.
Happily for me, as a player rather than a dev, I'm at liberty to say that if the system DRADIS sweep bothers somebody, then the irritation they feel is self-inflicted, and as such they need to learn how to not be a colossal infant.
There there son..once you get to pvp-ing and learn to use the D-scan like all the big boys do, then you will see why new scanner effect gets in the way. |

Daily Operation
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.08.11 01:49:00 -
[238] - Quote
When you jump into a system and one of the signature reticules covers a celestial, you have to wait for it to disappear before you can click it to warp or d-scan. This is extremely frustrating. If I wanted to know what signatures were in system, I'd OPEN THE PROBE SCANNER. This along with the jukebox removal is an absolutely mind-boggling change. |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
40
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Posted - 2013.08.11 09:55:00 -
[239] - Quote
Respen Seriavo wrote:Every... Single.... Jump.... I know you are proud of your new feature but is it really necessary to make my screen flash every 20 seconds during a long trip? I've only been back in game about an hour and a half and I cringe every time I see this animation. I'll give you that I thought "this is neat" to myself as I left a station for the first time ans saw it. But seriously, it sucks.... I'd much prefer to see it when called upon.
Please give me a way to turn it off or better yet, make it go away unless I decide to do a manual scan. Thanks!
dont whine , i think it looks neat , keep it |

Gun Dulf
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.08.12 14:00:00 -
[240] - Quote
Lugalbandak wrote:
dont whine , i think it looks neat , keep it
Stop whining, it looks crappy, make it optional.
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sonny2dap
Wakoponeta Zippytie Co.
3
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Posted - 2013.08.12 14:40:00 -
[241] - Quote
its annoying how it runs every time you dock jump etc. but I actually like the effect, I just want to be the one responsible for initiating it in the first place. |

The TopCat
APOCALYPSE LEGION The Obsidian Front
0
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Posted - 2013.09.09 14:43:00 -
[242] - Quote
I'm not fond of this, an option to stop it auto scanning would be nice. |
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