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0Lona 0ltor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.04 16:20:00 -
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Funny the low sec system I'm in has 4 free belts 2 ice & 2 roid, not a single ship. |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
75
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Posted - 2013.06.04 16:25:00 -
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Karak Terrel wrote:This is a really bad change. Until now I often found miners in w-space mining in some grav site. To sneak up on them without them noticing me was fun and not the easiest thing to do. I don't say it was supper challenging, but there was always the possibility they spot the probes in the 5-10s it took me to pin the site after I narrowed it down with d-scan.
Now I fear there will be no more miners as it is just too risky and a free kill for everyone. And even if there are still miners, you just completely killed the fun I had scanning them down.
What are you, simple?
They are quicker to find and thus easier to neut, board, capture, bind, torture, exsanguinate and pulp.
My Tainted Claret tanks on the Dragoon will have to be expanded considerably now.
As will my holding pens.
"You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now..."-á-á-Authorized Pixel Distributor
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Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.04 16:30:00 -
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Interesting, I never got the feeling anyone cared about the high sec grav belts. I never did them because in the time to find them and move my carp to mine them, I could have just as much or more isk sitting in the standard belts.
Still not really a fn of this change but we'll see. I think most mining systems in null will just end up getting bubbled to hell. :\ Maximze your Industry Potential! - Get EVE Isk per Hour! |
Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2013.06.04 16:31:00 -
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Nycodemis wrote: Oh... the "protection" you spoke of in W-space was non-existent. People that live in that system BM'd the grav shortly after its creation.
What matters is that it "appeared" to be "save" and this encouraged mining under unsave conditions. |
Argel OTF2
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.04 16:51:00 -
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I have to say that even though I'm on board with a lot of this Odyssey stuff, the grav changes make absolutely no sense on in any way. I don't mine but I can appreciate how valuable a decent grav site was in the past, and how impractical it is to mine in low/null |
Tenchi Sal
Dust Bunnies 514
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Posted - 2013.06.04 16:57:00 -
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Its called the world of warcraft effect. In order to bring in more casual gamers, you have to dumb down the mechanics or some aspects of it. This is a perfect example. |
Gordon Esil
Bag End
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Posted - 2013.06.04 17:12:00 -
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Zifrian wrote:Interesting, I never got the feeling anyone cared about the high sec grav belts. I never did them because in the time to find them and move my carp to mine them, I could have just as much or more isk sitting in the standard belts.
Still not really a fn of this change but we'll see. I think most mining systems in null will just end up getting bubbled to hell. :\ I do (before the patch) grav sites in the same system I mine normally in it only, I never bother to go to nearby systems and scan for grav sites because that is more time as you said to move your mining ship and get there then bring the ore back to home...
That was an awesome income, but I guess now I have to share it with others... |
Denidil
Turalyon Plus
594
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Posted - 2013.06.04 17:14:00 -
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HTFU and hire mercs to wardec them if it is the same corp all the time.
Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design. |
Denidil
Turalyon Plus
594
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Posted - 2013.06.04 17:15:00 -
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Tenchi Sal wrote:Its called the world of warcraft effect. In order to bring in more casual gamers, you have to dumb down the mechanics or some aspects of it. This is a perfect example.
no, you friggen pathetic wannabe-elitist
this is why:
Zifrian wrote:Interesting, I never got the feeling anyone cared about the high sec grav belts. I never did them because in the time to find them and move my carp to mine them, I could have just as much or more isk sitting in the standard belts.
Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
515
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Posted - 2013.06.04 17:24:00 -
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It is mining pvp now. fastest miner will get best rewards |
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1985
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Posted - 2013.06.04 17:34:00 -
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RomeStar wrote:Tell us how you really feel.
I too sense the poster was holding back.
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Sentamon
993
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Posted - 2013.06.04 17:35:00 -
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Unit CA108AF wrote:I unsubbed my mining alts. I suggest you do the same. Vote with your wallet and show them you don't need Eve.
I'm using the dual training feature to train gank alts on my mining accounts. Its too bad you're leaving, you sound like a yummy target. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
QuakeGod
Empire Manufacturing
5
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Posted - 2013.06.04 17:39:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:It is mining pvp now. fastest miner will get best rewards
That's one way of looking at it. The combat anomalies are the same way.
It's quite funny actually, to see several ships just hanging around outside the station, then as soon as an anomaly pops up they all warp to it at the same time and try to get there first.
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Ryks Nalar
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.04 17:47:00 -
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TLDR but I got the idea. Scanning gravs was a pain in the ass. Who's fitting a scanner on a mining barge? nobody, so ship swapping or alt scanning was the way and that sucked balls. Plus you could be scanning for weeks in high sec without finding anything. Those massive groups of people, they are the types that find them anyway, this just makes it easier for the little guys to get a slice too.
Am I shocked that today, the day of the expansion, that everyone's out hunting the new sites? No.. I'm not. I'm sure it will die down and you can have some of the tiny amount of low-mid range ore that high sec provides.
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Thomas Harding
Flaming Sideburns Social Club
0
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Posted - 2013.06.04 17:49:00 -
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killorbekilled TBE wrote:Darwin is turning in his grave right now -_-
Does Darwin getting himself buried alive qualify for Darwin award? |
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
306
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Posted - 2013.06.04 17:50:00 -
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Welfare Belts
It happened in WoW and now its happening here.
In the interest of :newsubs: Not today spaghetti. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Daktaklakpak.
2226
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Posted - 2013.06.04 17:53:00 -
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TL:DR. I just know it is full of tears but I just ain't thirsty right now. Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821 |
destiny2
Abh Empire Ex Cinere Scriptor
125
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:01:00 -
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if ya move to null you wont have this issue |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:02:00 -
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I can't remember ever finding a grav site that was worth the trouble it took to find and mine over just mining scordite right outside the undock. If CCP had put ore in the hisec grav sites that was worth a crap, they probably would have had more people use them.
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