PERC = Perception


I believe he sent you some implants, to reduce your skill queues

Check your contracts

Blood for cream

Incorrect.



Like I've already said, many times. I'm a new player. What good is tradition or history for a new player? Oh wait you expect me to take a history class on EVE for that, don't you?

Bunch of cunts.21 days to fly a ship Ive been flying for ages.So much for if you could fly it before you can fly it now.And I don't spend hours reading forums to find out information with so many trolls and wankers making useless comments.ccps information conveyance is ****.Totally ******* useless

Well, I'm at work now. I will send them in a few hours.

What ship is it that you can't fly now?

Oh, I appreciate the gesture. Thank you!

Yep, if using Google can be called a history class. You yourself said you heard of Odyssey 2 weeks ago, that was 14 days where it could have danwed on you "hey, the game is changing, I better read up".

Look at the time you've wasted trying to defending your own incompetence and mistake when you could have been learning something. Doesn't it tell you something that so few of your fellow players aren't on your side?

Today I got to strike two thing from my list of 'Things to do in EvE'.

1. Place a corp bounty (100M)
2. Place a personal bounty (100K)

Thank you for the assistance OP.

Not all of us are both rude AND psychotic.


Some are even neither.




I just concentrate on trying not to be rude.

Players don't need to read about what's changing. Many of us are happy to play the game as it is when the new expansion comes out.

However that being said, I have watched every video CCP has posted on YouTube and nowhere was it even mentioned that ship skill prerequisites would be changed. That's plenty of interest on my part. I watched them because they interested me, not because I felt the need to do it for my own protected.

My fellow players? Give me a break. If I've learned anything from my forum experience over the past two days it's that "my fellow pilots" are my enemies and they certainty aren't on my side.

However that being said, I have watched every video CCP has posted on YouTube and nowhere was it even mentioned that ship skill prerequisites would be changed. That's plenty of interest on my part. I watched them because they interested me, not because I felt the need to do it for my own protected.

Yay! Another Providence pilot. Or at least.. another in about three weeks or so.
At any rate, can't have enough of us flying the sexiest ship in EVE.

On a more serious note however, Zaryte. You'll find (and have found out already) that you will receive very little sympathy on the forums here. In general the EVE community is a lot friendlier than any other mmo-community in my opinion. Yet, there's one golden rule the community expects everyone to be: BE INFORMED. If you want to play in a sandbox, you have to know what goes on in the sandbox. Don't complain your freighter going poof during a Burn Jita. The Goons are nice enough to warn everyone here about it weeks before they will attack, so those not willing to risk their freighters, will simply avoid the area.

You do have a point somewhat in that if you're new, you have to get used to the massive amount of information. But what I don't understand is this:

You are in a corp N-Lightning that has 27 members (as of this moment). Any decent CEO or officer will at some point mention that these changes were going to come in Odyssey. Either through in-game mail to new members, or through the Message of the Day in your corp channel. It's not your CEO's fault for not doing it, you can't put the blame on him, but if you at least would have mentioned your plan in skilling up for the Providence, then some corp-members would have told you about the upcoming change.

The more you get yourself involved, the more people will help you out in providing information you did not know yet. All of this could have been avoided if you were more active within this community in the beginning. Visit the forums, read the dev blogs, attend ISD's seminars, and talk frequently in your corps channel. As a matter of fact, if you would have joined the in-game help channel (so just by your standards that the forums etc. are only optional), then you would have seen the message about it as I know the ISD's had it mentioned in their Message of the Day of the help channel for several months.

All that is left now is to just accept what happened. CCP won't refund you your skillpoints you feel you wasted in Amarr Industrial IV and V. Because with the Amarr Industrial to V, it will give you access to the best of the best industrial ships have to offer: the Deep Space Transport and Blockade Runner. Just learn the Transport Ships skill to I and you'll be able to fly both. Not really wasted at all huh?

As for the Providence, just skill up on the Advanced Spaceship Command to V. Just keep at it. Only three weeks to go. Chop chop.

I'm really unhappy.. Last night before I went to bed, I had less than 24 hours left to fly the Providence freighter. I woke up this morning and got on EVE and noticed I got the 50,000 skill point compensation from CCP. So obviously, I spent it on the final portion of Amarr industrial 5 and was then going to put the remaining points into the Freighter level 1 skill so I could fly the Providence straight away.

Then, to my UTTER despair.. I see the new skill required. Advanced Spaceship command 5. This has added an additional 24 days to my training time for the Freighter and I can't help but feel like i've been cheated out of my time. My other accounts are the same distance away from the very same ship and I haven't put any time into that ship on those accounts at all. The last month of training has all been wasted.. I find myself unable to fly the ships I previously could and on top of that, the one thing I had been working towards for the last month was taken away from me just hours before getting the skills required.

All that being said, the update is good and I can see alot of work has been put into it. But I just can't get over this feeling of being cheated out of my training time. This isn't fair and i'm really unhappy that i'm one of the unfortunate ones to lose out on skill points. I know there are lots of people out there who worked around this update and basically got literally millions of FREE skill points just because they trained certain skills in certain orders. This is an unfair advantage.

To summarise:

Started training for a freighter 1 month ago.
less than 24 hours to go until all skills completed.
Odyssey is released.
24 days left for freighter all over again.

And note, that's not an additional 24 days on top of the skills i've trained. That's 24 days of different skills altogether, so the previous month of skills were mostly for nothing.

Is this really just meant to be "accepted"?

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Edit: I was expecting this negative feedback. but i'll add this:

For all those saying I had over a year of knowing this would happen, I'm only 5 months old. I shouldn't be expected to go looking around on forums for this kind of thing. Why would I be doing that? Don't you think if I knew something like this was going to happen i'd be more prepared? Like I said, I began my training for the freighter only a month ago. I didn't even know what odyssey WAS until about 2 weeks ago.

I don't follow. Are you saying i'm rude for thanking him..?

No, I was saying Im a psychotic.

Why would you assume I was saying that?

Losing a ship for whatever reason is my fault.

CCP did this to me, I didn't do it to myself. I'm not going to claim this is my fault just to satisfy you and the others. I stand by what I believe is right and I know this is wrong.

This punishment of 24 days is wrong, considering I was mere hours from flying the ship. This should be compensated.

Yes I could have avoided this, but it's not my burden to. It's CCPs.

I think the real problem here is you're just FAR too harsh. loosen up, just a little.

Yes I could have avoided this.

Losing a ship for whatever reason is my fault.

CCP did this to me, I didn't do it to myself. I'm not going to claim this is my fault just to satisfy you and the others. I stand by what I believe is right and I know this is wrong.

This punishment of 24 days is wrong, considering I was mere hours from flying the ship. This should be compensated.

Yes I could have avoided this, but it's not my burden to. It's CCPs.

I think the real problem here is you're just FAR too harsh. loosen up, just a little.

I bet its a frieghter. No Advanced Spaceship Command Five.

Losing a ship for whatever reason is my fault.

CCP did this to me, I didn't do it to myself. I'm not going to claim this is my fault just to satisfy you and the others. I stand by what I believe is right and I know what is wrong.

This punishment of 24 days is wrong, considering I was mere hours from flying the ship. This should be compensated.

Yes I could have avoided this, but it's not my burden to. It's CCPs.

I think the real problem here is you're just FAR too harsh. loosen up, just a little.

I wondered if he's actually tried to fly it, or if he's just run to the forums to complain.

I'm not sure really, you quoted me thanking him then went on to talk about rudeness, didn't quite understand.

correct, so you have no right to complain.

please excuse me while i try and figure out which of my 4 racial freighters i'd like to fly today.

Losing a ship for whatever reason is my fault.

CCP did this to me, I didn't do it to myself. I'm not going to claim this is my fault just to satisfy you and the others. I stand by what I believe is right and I know this is wrong.

This punishment of 24 days is wrong, considering I was mere hours from flying the ship. This should be compensated.

Yes I could have avoided this, but it's not my burden to. It's CCPs.

I think the real problem here is you're just FAR too harsh. loosen up, just a little.

How dare you demand that people test stuff before complaining about them???

NONSENSE!!!

I was only trying to say that some of us would rather be helpful than obstructive.