Twenty-four days is a hell of penalty to inflict on a five-month-old toon/player who didn't see it coming.

Save your HTFUs. CCP has also made it abundantly clear that it wants to work harder to keep new players interested. Here's an example of how not to do that.

And that's the bottom line.

Actually, the bottom line is GÇ£review your attitude towards staying updated to game changes.GÇ¥
You made a mistake. Learn from it.

I did not make a mistake. It's not my fault.

Forums aren't the primary place for game deveopers to share news.

I have learnt, however to use the forums and other third party sources for information

... The only way to make it not stupid would have been to reach out to al toons training the relevant skills with alerts. It could have been done via EVEmail, and that it wasn't unfortunately dooms players who don't read blogs and forums.

While EVE breeds pretend-hard players who love to tell newer players tough luck, "it was announced outside of the game" is a big, fat fail...

I did not make a mistake. It's not my fault. Forums are separate from the game and players aren't expected to use them. Important information like this should be posted in-game where there's no excuse to missing it. Forums aren't the primary place for game deveopers to share news. And that IS the bottom line.

I have learnt, however to use the forums and other third party sources for information as I now know CCP don't put the information where it should be. IN game.

It's not my fault.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/74234

Note this was posted on febuary.

IFor all those saying I had over a year of knowing this would happen, I'm only 5 months old. I shouldn't be expected to go looking around on forums for this kind of thing. Why would I be doing that? Don't you think if I knew something like this was going to happen i'd be more prepared? Like I said, I began my training for the freighter only a month ago. I didn't even know what odyssey WAS until about 2 weeks ago.

A ton of ******* good that did for those of us trained before February.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/74234

Note this was posted on febuary.

First time I've seen this. I wouldn't describe my Eve activities as living under a rock.

Same, If something like this had been posted in game to everyone it wouldn't have been missed by a single player.

You managed to find your way onto the forums to whine pretty easily, you had months to do the same thing to find out about patch notes and expansions.

It's your own fault, these changes have been plastered everywhere since Feburary.

Everywhere except the one place it matters. In game.

Everywhere that matters, including in-game.

GǪnot that in-game is a particularly normal or natural place for such information since it's commonly something that's posted on the official game website. Such as this one. Kind of like what they did with this information. Half a year ago. Actually, one and a half a year ago, if we look for the original announcement.

Who said anything about GÇ£every EVE forum out thereGÇ¥?

So after you having missed out on crucial information because you didn't pay attention to the official EVE forums, and a page of people telling you that if you had paid attention to the official EVE forums you would have been informed, your conclusion is that your attention doesn't belong on the forums? Let's see if you can spot the error in your reasoning hereGǪ

I did not make a mistake. It's not my fault. Forums are separate from the game and players aren't expected to use them. Important information like this should be posted in-game where there's no excuse to missing it. Forums aren't the primary place for game deveopers to share news. And that IS the bottom line.

I have learnt, however to use the forums and other third party sources for information as I now know CCP don't put the information where it should be. IN game.

Deciding not to go to the primary source of information is pretty much your fault, especially when it's being advertised from in-game. You're not the first one to make this mistake, but it is still a mistake to not seek out that source of information.

Yes it is. That's the whole point of having forums.

GǪor you can just skip the third-party source and go for the first-party source: the developers themselves and the information they put out in blogs, forum posts, news items GÇö all conveniently gathered in a single place.

So you expect each and every player to regularly go to the EVE website to check if they're being screwed over? If that's the case that's unaaceptable and should NOT be expected.

Give us new guys a break and loosen up with your elite-ism.

Everywhere except the one place it matters. In game.

I did not make a mistake. It's not my fault. Forums are separate from the game and players aren't expected to use them. Important information like this should be posted in-game where there's no excuse to missing it. Forums aren't the primary place for game deveopers to share news. And that IS the bottom line.

I have learnt, however to use the forums and other third party sources for information as I now know CCP don't put the information where it should be. IN game.

lol. and what would be the alternative ... DEVS personally knocking on your door to discuss the next expansion?

Actually an in-game Mail would've been sufficient.

Not to mention the SAME forums that have been talking about the changes for some time.

The SAME forums he came to in order to write up a complaint.