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Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
236
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:47:00 -
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Esharan wrote:Sweet wall of text. I'll read all that, said no one ever.
pro tip; use paragraphs and TL/DR
I actually did read all of it. |
Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
78
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:49:00 -
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With hacking 5 I have no trouble whatsoever breezing through this mini game (low sec sites).
Having said that, I must say that it is a click-fest in an annoying pop-up window, which ends in a full ****** loot pinata which has been heavily criticized from the very start.
The mini game in itself would be tolerable, if it wasn't for the loot explosion and frantic grab for vanishing containers in the end. This is simply not a worthy goal to pursue. It's a truly miserable experience. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1940
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:50:00 -
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I think the hacking minigame has a nice flow to it. Which then gets completely shattered by the scatter mechanics. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Pepper Solette
University of Caille Gallente Federation
70
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:53:00 -
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Sweet merciful crap.
The expansion has been out for less than 12 hours and you are already raging and screaming? FFS Dude.
You and that Jacob Muvila should take your act on the road. One screaming because he is not getting instant bacon and the other screaming for compensation due to ineptitude. It's a double act. If you find a couple more of you clowns on here you can tour as a group. |
Doc Severide
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.06.04 19:06:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Roy Kring wrote:Jesus christ why are you guys so unhelpful and sarcastic? I take it youre new to GD. Exactly....
I think it's funny because I don't care.... |
Capt Tenguru10
Nintendo Power Against ALL Authorities
284
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Posted - 2013.06.04 19:09:00 -
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My sig says it all. http://i.imgur.com/EYX5Zi7.gif |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
485
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Posted - 2013.06.05 09:52:00 -
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Yup. I too have the unfortunate combination of Hacking V and a healthy aversion for minigames and QTE's.
Oh well. With the rats gone people will start using weaker ships, nobody ever said you'd have to do the hacking part yourself... |
killorbekilled TBE
Initiated
249
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Posted - 2013.06.05 09:58:00 -
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http://t.qkme.me/3uq6ee.jpg :) |
Sentamon
1002
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:00:00 -
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Barkaial Starfinder wrote:Were you literally screaming at the screen?
He was. I found a video. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1555
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:04:00 -
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Khira Kitamatsu wrote:So because CCP added a level of difficulty and interaction - it is too much for you to do. Wow...just wow...
Difficulty in the same way winning the lottery is difficult, so not really.
CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |
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Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
85
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:08:00 -
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Roy Kring wrote:I It made me so angry I was smashing my computer table and swearing heavily.
The only thing wrong here is that you need to talk to a counselor about your anger management issues.
"You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now..."-á-á-Authorized Pixel Distributor
Tell The Others |
Signal11th
The Retirement Club
980
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:14:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I love it when CCP makes stuff harder
Fallacy as usual, They haven't made it harder they have just made it take more time again. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |
Saheed Cha'chris'ra
Krautz WH Exploration and Production
67
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:14:00 -
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I did three hours of exploration yesterday with my corpmate. Farming lowsec-data and relic-sites seems to be the new buddy-activity. We liked it, even if our profit was not that big. Next time we will find a faction POS bpc! and if we don't, we can still blow stuff up.
I'm in a cov ops with hacking modules and rigs, my mate flew a cov ops with scanning equipment and rigs. Worked really good.
Also he can watch D-Scan while i am hacking the containers. |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
998
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:19:00 -
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Pepper Solette wrote:Sweet merciful crap.
The expansion has been out for less than 12 hours and you are already raging and screaming? FFS Dude.
Trouble is we have to keep screaming/raging for week's or nothing will change.
CCP Greyscale wrote:Our current plan is to leave it as-is for a few weeks and then see if it's still bothering people. It's very hard in advance to separate the things that will annoy people for a week and then stop being an issue from the things that will persist in annoying people forever. If you look at the initial feedback for the new font, for example, there was a near-riot when it was deployed - but if you go back and look at the old font now it's horrible. |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
356
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:20:00 -
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Next time put it on youtube..... we want to laugh at raging nerds too You either love us or we hate you. |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight
100
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Posted - 2013.06.05 18:48:00 -
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Roy Kring wrote:I love exploration and always have, today I logged in from deep in nullsec to continue my exploration journey when I see that Odyssey has come out. .. ... This new minigame is the most frustrating thing I've ever had to do in eve online to this day.
Mr. Tinfoil Hat says...
"This was done to extend your uncloaked time working a site, to allow others a better chance at warping in and pointing you. While you are busy dicking about with a minigame, and scrambling to grab the ejected cans, you are less likely to be watching local or mashing d-scan..."
-1 to explorers life expectancies, +1 to pvp/pirates killmails :)
This is not a problem per se', IF CCP had of addressed the pre-existing issue that exploration isn't a viable career because the risk-reward curve is too skewed towards risk. With this they just boned explorers even more IMHO.
http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca |
THC Trader
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:21:00 -
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I have read the guides on the best method to do hacking. The general consensus is explore as many nodes as you can, killing only Regenerative and Suppressor nodes, ignoring all others until you have no other option left. I have tried this in multiple sites, with hacking 4, and a covops frigate. To put it into perspective, with hacking 4 I have never found a can I couldn't open. Now, I'm lucky to get 2/5 cans in a site. On top of that, the loot I get in return for spending 45 minutes smashing my head against my keyboard hoping I find the core, has amounted to about 15m/site on average. Before I averaged somewhere around 50-100m/site. This is with two accounts looting the cans that pop out (another completely half ass mechanic), running nullsec sites.
Regenerative nodes are too common. Virus suppressors are too common. Defensive nodes in general are too common. I understand that hacking 5 will give a significant boost to your results. However it should not be a requirement to get any meaningful results. This just creates a giant barrier to entry. That's 26 days spent training (just to get hacking and archaeology from 4 to 5). Even in the sites where I *have* managed to open every can, the loot was laughable. I'm also aware you get two tries for each can. I have been doing this, and my results include that.
This is unacceptable. With two accounts, I still can't get every can that pops out. I cannot open every can. On top of that, the loot I get is simply terrible.
To the OP: Ignore the forum trolls. They're just trying to derail the thread. The best way to deal with a troll is to ignore them. Their mommy will put them in time out sooner or later. |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:22:00 -
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Cool thread. The Tears Must Flow |
Koz Katral
L'Avant Garde
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:28:00 -
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I have been just running around with hacking 4 doing exploration for the last few months...
suffice to say Hacking 5 is now at the top of my skillplan. They added a reason to train hacking to 5 and use a t2 module...I really don't see that as a problem. |
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
1079
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:29:00 -
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New System is Fantastic
One of the oldest mission players in EVE designed a chart that explains stat priority in regards to mission running, compared Alpha, DPS, Ship Speed and Sig Radius and scores them. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24dbrfuWn1r86ax8o1_1280.jpg |
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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
6
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:32:00 -
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Roy Kring wrote:Jesus christ why are you guys so unhelpful and sarcastic? because they are eve online veterans.
Kaeracin wrote:is there a tl:dr version of this massive wall of text? sorry but "ain't nobody got time for that" you could have read the text in the time you were typing that ...
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CompleteFailure
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
42
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:33:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YersIyzsOpc
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xarjin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2013.06.05 20:01:00 -
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5 year veteran here.
if i had to pick out of all the highlight features for odessey i'd keep the ship changes and the new probe scanner and throw the rest back in the garbage bin.
Highsec data and relic site loot it utterly worthless ( i can get better income from highsec missioning running level 2 missions ) and there's absolutely zero chance i would bother doing those in lowsec. |
Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
254
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Posted - 2013.06.05 21:00:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:You will learn the hacking mini-game, eventually become quite good at it, expert even, and then you will come to the forums to laugh at the noobs who can't do it properly. Of course, while you're learning you're going to lose a lot of loot. Keep at it though. This, there is definantly correct things to do and incorrect things to do. Clicking every node you can is a bad idea. |
Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
390
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Posted - 2013.06.05 21:08:00 -
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I don't understand how you guys think that's a wall of text.
Seriously, stop thinking your phone is a source of education. "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url]-á for details. |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
196
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Posted - 2013.06.05 21:11:00 -
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Paul Panala wrote:Less words...
Fewer. |
Nanami Enpei
Shinden Shorai
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 21:13:00 -
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xarjin wrote:5 year veteran here.
if i had to pick out of all the highlight features for odessey i'd keep the ship changes and the new probe scanner and throw the rest back in the garbage bin.
Highsec data and relic site loot it utterly worthless ( i can get better income from highsec missioning running level 2 missions ) and there's absolutely zero chance i would bother doing those in lowsec.
Even ratting in 0.7 Asteroid belts gets you more isk then from hisec data sites xD
Im not an veteran, but this new clickfest (minigame) and the loot scattering and the loot table is something #&$++* |
floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
77
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Posted - 2013.06.05 21:15:00 -
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Do the exploration implants still work? |
Lister Vindaloo
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.06.05 21:17:00 -
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I can deal with the mini game, it's a bit of fun and hopefully may get an iteration or two to tweak it as time goes on. But the loot scatter is ridiculous, it must be some kind of sick joke. Not to mention the loot value, I'm yet to find a single site that pays anywhere near what the pre-odessey sites paid, again this needs a lot of work to balance out the risk v reward as if I'm exposed for long enough to complete the mini game I'd expect some measurable reward, at the moment it'll take a lot of sites to replace a covops. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4230
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Posted - 2013.06.05 21:18:00 -
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Quote:This is unacceptable. With two accounts, I still can't get every can that pops out. I cannot open every can. On top of that, the loot I get is simply terrible.
You might stop to consider that you aren't supposed to be able to get all the cans when attempting it using one of your own alt accounts. Two people, on the other hand, seem to manage quite nicely.
It's a bit early in the game to make an informed decision about the quality/amount of the loot overall, especially since you are a bit new at this and not actually being successful much of the time. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
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