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Spoz Virtus
Starcade Group Elemental Tide
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Posted - 2013.06.06 01:47:00 -
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New exploration is pretty good. I've spent 5-6 hours exploring all of high/low/nullsec and made myself well above 500m ISK worth of stuff selling directly to the market. This doesn't include my current sell orders which total another couple of hundred mill and some T2 items I'm manufacturing from some blueprints I got.
Highsec exploring can be profitable IMO. Lowsec is good if you know how to stay safe with directional scan. Nullsec seems profitable although I did start to fail on the hacking game a few times (only level 3 hacking).
My only concern is I wonder if some prices will drop as I think its actually too easy to explore! To summarise:
1) Its easier to find sites that you want (wormholes and other sites you don't want are quick to show themselves assuming you have even reasonable probing skills). I can now scan down any site within a minute after entering the system.
2) Hacking is more interesting than it used to be - requires some actual player skill which is affected by character skill and items.
3) Hacking Archeology skill level is useful now - I actually want to get them to level 5 now. The modules are also important which is nice. T2 is far superior.
4) Your ship type becomes important. Without the above skills being high you really do have to use specialised ships (appropriate frigates or covert ops ships).
5) You can work as a group scanning down sites quickly and hacking and grabbing as a team to maximise the profit output. New players can be useful as an experienced person can scan/hack the site and anyone can grab.
6) It does seem profitable and very simple for a newer player to get into. As I said perhaps its TOO easy... |
Ix Method
Porphyrean Genetic Enterprises
26
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Posted - 2013.06.06 01:53:00 -
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Yeah, this was pretty awesome. |
Jim Luc
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.06 01:55:00 -
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Exploration looks fun to me, but I guess I will wait until I have a chance to sit down and play again.
The hacking minigame looks good for the first iteration. I'd love to see more goodies that can be found only in the hacking game, like if you found a data cache that can be worth some ISK?
Also, it reminds me of hacking in Deus Ex. There was a timed element to Deus Ex though, which I think would be cool for a bit more strategy in this minigame. |
Sishen Gzi
Hellion Support Services
53
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Posted - 2013.06.06 02:07:00 -
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I'm totally down with the game, much better then just sitting there clicking on the module until the can unlocks. What I don't understand is why successfully hacking a can results in it ejecting everything into space, that seems to me to be something that should happen if you fail. |
Brek Blood
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:22:00 -
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Roy Kring wrote:Well i tapped the space button twice so your brain could adjust to the handfull of sentences, and to the smarter replys, try doing this new minigame deep into negative nullsec and you will see my frustration
Post is fine, read it fine.
You'd wonder if people have to read these days at their jobs or if everything comes via bullet points.
I do think there is a ways to go before 1 person can find something truly unique among others. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1104
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:42:00 -
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Onomerous wrote:Khira Kitamatsu wrote:So because CCP added a level of difficulty and interaction - it is too much for you to do. Wow...just wow... wow... just wow. Not sure how push button = get bacon is adding a level of difficulty.
It's an infinite amount of difficulty if you are just trying to afk/bot it.
Just wait until they add one of these minigames to ice / ore mining. Dear god, the ranting... |
Minsc
Order of the Phoenix Gentlemen's Agreement
64
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:46:00 -
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Brek Blood wrote:Roy Kring wrote:Well i tapped the space button twice so your brain could adjust to the handfull of sentences, and to the smarter replys, try doing this new minigame deep into negative nullsec and you will see my frustration Post is fine, read it fine. You'd wonder if people have to read these days at their jobs or if everything comes via bullet points. I do think there is a ways to go before 1 person can find something truly unique among others.
That's cause the OP fixed it. it used to be a wall of text now there's actual sentences and such. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1873
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:52:00 -
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Sishen Gzi wrote:I'm totally down with the game, much better then just sitting there clicking on the module until the can unlocks. What I don't understand is why successfully hacking a can results in it ejecting everything into space, that seems to me to be something that should happen if you fail. Agree.
Three levels of results with hacking: Total win: Cans unload neatly in your proximity. Good value found therein. Partial win: Cans eject at some velocity, but not too radical. Mostly crap, but a few nice items. Fail: Cans full of melted crap eject at high velocity. Take shields damage.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
494
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:55:00 -
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Roy Kring wrote:Jesus christ why are you guys so unhelpful and sarcastic? Im serious here im at a loss big time, im really unhappy right now.
see, now this poast I read. concise, well puncuated, and easy-on-the eyes! +1
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961
EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |
Lyell Wolf
Virtues Corporation Yulai Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.06.06 04:23:00 -
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With exploration being something I've basically focused on since my first days as a capsuleer I felt as though I should have something to say regarding this change. But I honestly don't have much to comment on. It's easier to scan... That's about as much if a fact/opinion that I can stat. |
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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
542
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Posted - 2013.06.06 04:34:00 -
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First round is a learning lesson, OP.
I haven't even bothered to undock yet but based on what you are saying my radar exploration only slightly changes. I used to scan them with a CovOps, go get a drake and hack the cans, kill the PvE. Sounds like maybe I will need to use a Proph or a Myrm because they have more drone bay to keep repair down. I will need to try and see if the 5 lights on the Drake will be enough.
Update. The new skill bonus to Hacking is +10 to virus coherence and that will play a factor in when you are doing the mini game. It isn't like before where you spam with code breakers like you are salvaging. It could become a decent mini game but as many are complaining on, the way you loot now is a bit of a scam. I never right clicked to see if I could add to overview so you can grab what you know will have something worth taking and let the foolish stuff drift in to space. |
THC Trader
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2013.06.06 11:17:00 -
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Snapper Pumpkinpuss wrote:YOU GUYS ARE EITHER STUPID OR USELESS...BUY BACK MY T3 CRUISER i made this so i could compete for 6 sites , lookout , vigil and watch and 3 of 10s and 4 of 10s and radars..... you took away my way of makeing isk..now i need 3 ships...but wait i can go to low sec and get killed in 10 seconds with 2 bill ship and 1 bill in implaints.. wow what fun to go get killed in 10 seconds ...thats why i pay 20+ usd a month so i can slave away for a few months to loose it to some jackasses in low sec in seconds. YOU OWE ME 10 BILLION ISK AND A TONE OF SKILL POINTS SO I CAN TRAIN MY TOON IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION... HAD I KNOWN I WOULD NOT HAVE GONE DOWN A PATH THAT I DID ....OH BUT WAIT I CROSS TRAINED TO CALDARIE but you nerfed heavy missles .....then you nerfed drakes....then now you shitcaned T3s... i have enuf of you stupid fks....fix it or loose me...what are you thinking
Wardec incoming. Your tears shall be delicious. |
THC Trader
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2013.06.06 11:18:00 -
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Gilbaron wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:Gilbaron wrote:has anyone found out what happens if your cargo is full and you try to scoop another container ? i am talking about has anyone found out what happens if your cargo is full and you try to scoop another container ? i am talking about Power Couplings and those armor thingies. these things can easily take up all the space in my frigate and i may miss something cool and actually worth looking for You don't get anymore loot, everything will work the same. this needs fixing, the size of these items can easily be reduced without destroying anything of value ingame
No it doesn't. The items that take up the most hold are of almost no value. Jet can them, they're ****. I ran these sites for about 3-4 hours last night and pulled 1b out of it in total. I still had PLENTY of space left in my hold. |
Naburi NasNaburi
distress signals
179
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Posted - 2013.06.06 11:24:00 -
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Roy Kring wrote:There is no real strategy to the game, you just click on nodes and hope you get lucky and uncover the core..
And the strategy before was ? Oh yes.. scan, warp, lock, activate module, watch module cycle...... loot.
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Ave Kathrina
My Ass Is On Fire
52
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Posted - 2013.06.06 11:36:00 -
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The hacking minigame is laughing its ass off at your lack of 1337 skills....
It WANTS you to get angry. I've done some really stupid **** in this game. |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
158
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Posted - 2013.06.06 11:48:00 -
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I watched a video so I should immediately succeed at something, right?
Right? |
Seniae 0n3
35
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Posted - 2013.06.06 11:50:00 -
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Eram Fidard wrote:I watched a video so I should immediately succeed at something, right?
Right?
Well yes! It's a competence requirement to succeed right away. We wouldn't expect less from you |
Lilinallte Alleile
Free Unified Spirits of Eve Blood Night Alliance
9
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:03:00 -
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Koz Katral wrote:I have been just running around with hacking 4 doing exploration for the last few months...
suffice to say Hacking 5 is now at the top of my skillplan. They added a reason to train hacking to 5 and use a t2 module...I really don't see that as a problem.
Wow... what does hacking V and T2's bring more? I've got hacking at III and am using T1's atm, and still am doing good, although estimated values have gone down when soloing... Getting more than half the cans by the way...
The game is simple: do the nodes at the edges, collect the tools. When you bump into a FW, just leave it until you have no other ways to go. then make an educated guess and pick the 'blockage' most likely to be the winner:) Oh, and don't forget to use the tools you find! they make a lot of difference...
Anyway, I thought the only reason for taking hacking and archaeology to V would be to go below low-sec... Will be doing that, as the occupation 'explorer' is not paying my bills at the moment by doing it in low sec (0.1-0.2), so I have to move on...
I'm using the, what people call, crap btw myself, on an alt that does invention/research/production... --- Click https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=f95f73a0-8b2f-4dff-9945-0f6ad28e4fd1&action=buddy for a Buddy Invite... |
Lilinallte Alleile
Free Unified Spirits of Eve Blood Night Alliance
9
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:07:00 -
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Skydell wrote:First round is a learning lesson, OP.
I haven't even bothered to undock yet but based on what you are saying my radar exploration only slightly changes. I used to scan them with a CovOps, go get a drake and hack the cans, kill the PvE. Sounds like maybe I will need to use a Proph or a Myrm because they have more drone bay to keep repair down. I will need to try and see if the 5 lights on the Drake will be enough.
Update. The new skill bonus to Hacking is +10 to virus coherence and that will play a factor in when you are doing the mini game. It isn't like before where you spam with code breakers like you are salvaging. It could become a decent mini game but as many are complaining on, the way you loot now is a bit of a scam. I never right clicked to see if I could add to overview so you can grab what you know will have something worth taking and let the foolish stuff drift in to space.
Can't add to overview... how do you loot if you don't right-click and pick 'take'? --- Click https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=f95f73a0-8b2f-4dff-9945-0f6ad28e4fd1&action=buddy for a Buddy Invite... |
Lilinallte Alleile
Free Unified Spirits of Eve Blood Night Alliance
9
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:09:00 -
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Snapper Pumpkinpuss wrote:i dont care about that its access with my ship thats messed up ...i spent alot of time and training to get a ship that could run alot of sites
you must have been steaming, when everybody received a no-need-for-training-at-all Gnosis:) the first all-in-one explore and loot ship. Armed too, as to keep the lazy ones away:) --- Click https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=f95f73a0-8b2f-4dff-9945-0f6ad28e4fd1&action=buddy for a Buddy Invite... |
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