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Roy Kring
Bad Security. Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:13:00 -
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I love exploration and always have, today I logged in from deep in nullsec to continue my exploration journey when I see that Odyssey has come out. Well first I try the scanning and I don't think it should have been changed but whatever I can deal with it so lets move on to the actual exploration. I scan down a relic site and get to work as usual, but I when I turn on my analyzer I see a minigame window pop up and I realise this is the beginning of the end. I watch a CCP video about how to do the new sites and try my luck at them. Keep in mind i'm deep in nullsec and this seems to effect the difficulty of the cans. Basically in a site with about 6 cans, 5 of them blew up because I kept failing the hacking minigame. Now what the hell is this? How is this an improvement over the old system? I understand the old system could get a little tedious, only a LITTLE tedious. This new minigame is the most frustrating thing I've ever had to do in eve online to this day. It made me so angry I was smashing my computer table and swearing heavily. There is no real strategy to the game, you just click on nodes and hope you get lucky and uncover the core. There are serious problems here, like the restoration nodes which make the site almost impossible by constantly repairing any defensive nodes you haven't yet attacked. You literally don't have enough power to kill what you come into contact with when the restoration nodes are stacking repairs on every node. Not to mention that in the harder sites i'm doing the hacking board is HUGE multiplying the ill effects. I was extremely angry initially, but now i'm just really sad that this is what CCP did to exploration. There were only 2 things in this game I truly enjoyed, PVP and Exploration, and I needed one to do the other. This is going to cripple me, I cannot do these sites effectively and am losing huge amounts of money due to the multiple failures. I really don't know what to do now, I love this game so much and looked forward to logging in every day, I have 2 accounts subbed via credit card, buy Plex regularly, and now I don't know what I'm going to do. I never liked pve and hated grinding in any form but exploration was my exception because it was dangerous and fun, such a different thing to do compared to missions or incursions. Now i'm in fear of losing that fun. Please change something about these sites, make them easier somehow, I've had so much fun in eve but this will hurt me badly. |
Lexmana
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:15:00 -
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hmmm ... what did you say again? |
Barkaial Starfinder
Eixo do Mal
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:15:00 -
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Were you literally screaming at the screen? |
Esharan
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:18:00 -
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Sweet wall of text. I'll read all that, said no one ever.
pro tip; use paragraphs and TL/DR |
Roy Kring
Bad Security. Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:19:00 -
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Jesus christ why are you guys so unhelpful and sarcastic? Im serious here im at a loss big time, im really unhappy right now. |
Kaeracin
Pistols at Dawn
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:21:00 -
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is there a tl:dr version of this massive wall of text? sorry but "ain't nobody got time for that" |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:21:00 -
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You will learn the hacking mini-game, eventually become quite good at it, expert even, and then you will come to the forums to laugh at the noobs who can't do it properly.
Of course, while you're learning you're going to lose a lot of loot.
Keep at it though.
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:21:00 -
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Roy Kring wrote:Jesus christ why are you guys so unhelpful and sarcastic? Im serious here im at a loss big time, im really unhappy right now. Try formatting your OP and people might even read what you have to say. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:22:00 -
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Because your wall of text is.. um.. a wall of text? Try some paragraphs and stuff. For the children! |
Esharan
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:23:00 -
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Roy Kring wrote:Jesus christ why are you guys so unhelpful and sarcastic? Im serious here im at a loss big time, im really unhappy right now.
This is EvE not Hello Kitty Island Adventure.
Anyway I will make you happy. Contract to me all your assets and I will double it? |
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Kaeracin
Pistols at Dawn
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:25:00 -
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This is EvE not Hello Kitty Island Adventure.
Anyway I will make you happy. Contract to me all your assets and I will double it?[/quote]
lol best comment of the morning |
Remiel Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:25:00 -
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Roy Kring wrote:It made me so angry I was smashing my computer table and swearing heavily.
This is your problem right here. Try taking a nap. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:26:00 -
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Esharan wrote:Roy Kring wrote:Jesus christ why are you guys so unhelpful and sarcastic? Im serious here im at a loss big time, im really unhappy right now. This is EvE not Hello Kitty Island Adventure. Anyway I will make you happy. Contract to me all your assets and I will double it?
His complaint was not unreasonable, but on reflection it did amount to, "I'm not very good at this because I've never done it before", which is easily rectified by... doing it some more. |
Shukuzen
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:26:00 -
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I rather like exploration now, infact I never had much interest in it until the new changes. It's made scanning and exploring more fun imo. |
Kaeracin
Pistols at Dawn
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:26:00 -
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Esharan wrote:This is EvE not Hello Kitty Island Adventure.
Anyway I will make you happy. Contract to me all your assets and I will double it?
lol best comment of the morning |
Hernan Johuihen
Zero Atmosphere Ex Cinere Scriptor
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:27:00 -
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should we care about this? or just harvest your tears |
Haulie Berry
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:28:00 -
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Sounds like PEBKAC problems. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:28:00 -
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Roy Kring wrote:Jesus christ why are you guys so unhelpful and sarcastic?
Paragraphs, dude!
We're being extremely unhelpful because you have posted a wall-of-text rant which we would have to expend much more effort than normal to read, only to find that you have nothing substantial to say that hasn't already been said on the other "exploration is dead" threads on this forum and over in Missions & Complexes.
Of course you already know about those other threads because you wrote them.
So here's a challenge for you: reformat this post into paragraphs. Stick to one topic per paragraph, and ensure the first sentence provides the reader with a clue about the content of the rest of the paragraph. Don't use emotive language like "sucks" or "killed" but instead try to explain why a particular change is upsetting you.
Then remember to read "Who Moved My Cheese". Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Paul Panala
Beyond the Shadows
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:28:00 -
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Roy Kring wrote:I love exploration and always have, today I logged in from deep in nullsec...
Please change the punctuation between 'have' and 'today' to a period. That should be a new sentence.
Edit: Also capitalize the T in today after making the aforementioned changed. |
Roy Kring
Bad Security. Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:29:00 -
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Well i tapped the space button twice so your brain could adjust to the handfull of sentences, and to the smarter replys, try doing this new minigame deep into negative nullsec and you will see my frustration |
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:30:00 -
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I love it when CCP makes stuff harder
"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?-á http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny |
Khira Kitamatsu
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:31:00 -
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So because CCP added a level of difficulty and interaction - it is too much for you to do. Wow...just wow... Ponies!-á We need more ponies! |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:31:00 -
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Roy Kring wrote:Jesus christ why are you guys so unhelpful and sarcastic?
I take it youre new to GD. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Paul Panala
Beyond the Shadows
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:33:00 -
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Here is a better example of how to complain. Less words, more funny.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=243493 |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:35:00 -
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Roy Kring wrote:There is no real strategy to the game, you just click on nodes and hope you get lucky and uncover the core. There are serious problems here, like the restoration nodes which make the site almost impossible by constantly repairing any defensive nodes you haven't yet attacked.
Here is an article about the mini game by Ali Aras. It's well worth reading, and she highlights a strategy which should help you beat the game.
So train up your hacking and archaeology skills, get the better modules, and get back to it with the determination that you aren't going to let the game beat you even when you lose.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:40:00 -
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I think people would be nicer if it weren't for the fact that these changes have been talked about, demo'd, made available on sisi, and videoed for weeks now. So you wake up and all the sudden its harder and scream and pound your desk?
Don't worry. Even now you can google the mini game and find walk throughs and strategies that will take all the guess work, and wonder, out of the sites. |
Grinder2210
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:43:00 -
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Roy Kring wrote:Jesus christ why are you guys so unhelpful and sarcastic? Im serious here im at a loss big time, im really unhappy right now.
you forgot to make your monthly isk dontation |
Eru GoEller
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:44:00 -
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Roy Kring wrote:Wrote Stuff Since your liked both exploration and PVP, here's a tip for your future endeavours in exploration and PVP:
You don't have to do the minigame, you need a cloaky ship (Recon or T3 will do fine), fit the new scanning modules as you see fit. Scan down sites as you did before Odyssey, moreso if there's someone else in system.
Warp to scanned out sites and grab as many cans you can from someone that indeed do the minigame, or just kill them. There exploration and PVP in the same run.
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Onomerous
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:46:00 -
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Khira Kitamatsu wrote:So because CCP added a level of difficulty and interaction - it is too much for you to do. Wow...just wow...
wow... just wow. Not sure how push button = get bacon is adding a level of difficulty. |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.06.04 18:47:00 -
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Roy Kring wrote:Jesus christ why are you guys so unhelpful and sarcastic? Im serious here im at a loss big time, im really unhappy right now.
Honest answer to your post is based upon one part. "can't do these sites..." the mini-game part -- yet.
It's new and isn't well understood. As it is explored, experimented with and documented it will become just as easy as most other aspects of the game you do know and understand. I'd bet you studied a crap ton of web info on how to work probes when you got started using them for the first time - that info isn't available... again: "Yet".
The thresholds that make it possible or almost impossible to do the cans will become well known and laid out but this will probably take a week or 2.
In the meantime, chill out a bit and relax. Mutter, blow off some steam by blowing up some ships and what not - or join in on figuring it out if that's what floats your boat.
This part won't be too tough to deal with "long term" - though it may be found to be annoying over time. This is a wait and see issue but the frustrations of "newness"... Been there, done that - its not uncommon so give it a bit of time. |
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