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Appolonof
Mighty 95
Babylon 5..
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Posted - 2011.11.25 11:18:00 -
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Thanks for the example program |
Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
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Posted - 2011.11.26 00:41:00 -
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Finally!!! Thank you so much! |
pmchem
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
91
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Posted - 2011.11.27 23:35:00 -
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pmchem wrote:yo gripen I posted a capacitor calculation question comparing pyfa and EFT, and the pyfa reply here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=399604#post399604claimed pyfa supremacy. I'm interesting in hearing your reply before passing judgment. Thanks. original question --- Question / possible bug: All-V character, Abaddon ship. No implants/gang effects/etc. Only 2 mods fit: Quad Lif Fueled I Booster Rockets and Heavy Capacitor Booster II (with Cap Booster 400 loaded). pyfa (latest winter preview) claims the following: 2m20sec cap with mwd running 10m30sec cap with mwd AND cap booster running EFT (2.13.4) says 2m34sec with mwd running, 10m58sec with both mwd and cap booster. Why the different result? Which is correct?
As a follow-up on this, I just tested the abaddon with quaf lif mwd and heavy cap booster 2 on sisi (build 321215 - should be identical to TQ for this testing). Character had all-5 navigation and capacitor related skills, and no implants.
Using only the MWD: ship first failed to cycle MWD due to lack of cap at 2m 31s.
Using the MWD and cap boosters (both started at same time): ship first failed to cycle MWD due to lack of cap at 9m 21s, and the last cap booster was consumed at 9m 5s.
CCP added an interesting feature to the fitting window on sisi: it tells you how long it will take your capacitor to deplete. It said 2m 30s for my abaddon fit, apparently ignoring the heavy cap booster. CCP wins in accuracy for the non-cap-boosted fit though, better than EFT or pyfa.
For EFT: the mwd-running calculations were close, but a bit too optimistic as far as cycling mods goes. EFT and pyfa both assumed the abaddon had infinite cap booster charges. In reality, the abaddon has 525m3 of cargo space. The heavy cap booster 2 can load 10 charges of cap booster 400 and fit 32 in a non-expanded cargo hold. It just runs out of cap charges. This should probably be considered a bug, as the program could estimate max # of cap boosters available without getting more from a can. This problem is pretty obvious to anyone who has ever theorycrafted a setup with cap booster 800s (which are pretty bulky). |
Emily Poast
The Whipping Post
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Posted - 2011.11.28 00:27:00 -
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1. If there are bugs, I aint having any.
2. I can now fit ships and buy fittings prior to the patch.
3. I hope CCP gives you some kind of renumeration.
4. You rock.
5. Thank you. |
Tub Chil
Trojan Trolls
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.11.28 06:57:00 -
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any update about winter expansion? would be great to see current sisi values |
Liang Nuren
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.29 08:09:00 -
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pmchem wrote:
For EFT: the mwd-running calculations were close, but a bit too optimistic as far as cycling mods goes. EFT and pyfa both assumed the abaddon had infinite cap booster charges. In reality, the abaddon has 525m3 of cargo space. The heavy cap booster 2 can load 10 charges of cap booster 400 and fit 32 in a non-expanded cargo hold. It just runs out of cap charges. This should probably be considered a bug, as the program could estimate max # of cap boosters available without getting more from a can. This problem is pretty obvious to anyone who has ever theorycrafted a setup with cap booster 800s (which are pretty bulky).
If you do some poking around in EFT you can see that early versions attempted to solve this problem. It looked pretty full featured when I was poking it. I think one of the most valuable things that Quickfit had was the capacitor simulator - which was seemingly more accurate than Pyfa or EFT.
-Liang
Looking for WH PVP corp.-á Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?)
Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Recruit me: http://wp.me/p1WQ0O-R |
DJB16
Phantom Squad
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.11.29 18:59:00 -
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pmchem wrote:pmchem wrote:yo gripen I posted a capacitor calculation question comparing pyfa and EFT, and the pyfa reply here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=399604#post399604claimed pyfa supremacy. I'm interesting in hearing your reply before passing judgment. Thanks. original question --- Question / possible bug: All-V character, Abaddon ship. No implants/gang effects/etc. Only 2 mods fit: Quad Lif Fueled I Booster Rockets and Heavy Capacitor Booster II (with Cap Booster 400 loaded). pyfa (latest winter preview) claims the following: 2m20sec cap with mwd running 10m30sec cap with mwd AND cap booster running EFT (2.13.4) says 2m34sec with mwd running, 10m58sec with both mwd and cap booster. Why the different result? Which is correct? As a follow-up on this, I just tested the abaddon with quaf lif mwd and heavy cap booster 2 on sisi (build 321215 - should be identical to TQ for this testing). Character had all-5 navigation and capacitor related skills, and no implants. Using only the MWD: ship first failed to cycle MWD due to lack of cap at 2m 31s. Using the MWD and cap boosters (both started at same time): ship first failed to cycle MWD due to lack of cap at 9m 21s, and the last cap booster was consumed at 9m 5s. CCP added an interesting feature to the fitting window on sisi: it tells you how long it will take your capacitor to deplete. It said 2m 30s for my abaddon fit, apparently ignoring the heavy cap booster. CCP wins in accuracy for the non-cap-boosted fit though, better than EFT or pyfa. For EFT: the mwd-running calculations were close, but a bit too optimistic as far as cycling mods goes. EFT and pyfa both assumed the abaddon had infinite cap booster charges. In reality, the abaddon has 525m3 of cargo space. The heavy cap booster 2 can load 10 charges of cap booster 400 and fit 32 in a non-expanded cargo hold. It just runs out of cap charges. This should probably be considered a bug, as the program could estimate max # of cap boosters available without getting more from a can. This problem is pretty obvious to anyone who has ever theorycrafted a setup with cap booster 800s (which are pretty bulky).
in EFT there is an option under File / Prefrences called *include reload time in dps* if unticked it might cause the infin charges in booster issue ur seeing (i might be wrong but worth a try) |
Kaivaja
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.29 20:04:00 -
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You don't think it would be silly if EFT tried to guess how many cap charges you are carrying? How would EFT simulate your potential to pick up new charges during the fight? Some things should be left for the user of the tool to to figure out. After all, you can "simulate" running out of cap charges by shutting down the cap booster module in EFT with one single click. |
Nyahcanthet
Nyan Cats United
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Posted - 2011.11.29 20:49:00 -
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Same problem here.
On first try to import the character from API key, I get the WININET error.
On second try and until I reload EFT, I get an "API key expired" error. Which, by the way, is the very same error I get if I deliberately try to enter a wrong one.
I'm on Win7 Home Premium SP1 64 bit |
SerialBoX
Fly Drunk
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:22:00 -
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When can we expect the updates for the gallente/hybrid changes? |
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Minuseg
The Shadow Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.11.29 23:12:00 -
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unknown WININET error # 127  vista home premium 32 |
Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2011.11.30 00:54:00 -
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Minuseg wrote:unknown WININET error # 127 vista home premium 32
Yes Yes... We are all having this error...
Just don't expect a fix any time soon. |
Talia Nachtigall
Insanely Twisted
6
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Posted - 2011.11.30 12:07:00 -
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Current version working fine for me on Windows7 x64.
When will a Crucible update be released? 
Don't pray for my soul. ;) |
van Horne
Hard Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2011.11.30 12:50:00 -
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Thank you for your hard work to make EFT possible and for me the third party program i mostly ever used! |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.11.30 15:15:00 -
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your download service sucks
I can understand waiting to click the DL button, but having to wait a second countdown when you click it?
lame
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Krebskasper
Biotronics Inc.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.11.30 15:39:00 -
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Morganta wrote:your download service sucks
I can understand waiting to click the DL button, but having to wait a second countdown when you click it?
lame
stop bitching and be grateful for ppl putting time into these kind of projects for free. |
Jack bubu
GK inc.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.11.30 15:46:00 -
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Morganta wrote:your download service sucks
I can understand waiting to click the DL button, but having to wait a second countdown when you click it?
lame
just use the alternative mirror you dumbass |
Sol Zygos
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:22:00 -
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Thank you very much for all of your efforts, man! I do believe that I would have quitted EVE years ago if there had not been EFT... |
Viribus
Bear Force One
Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.11.30 18:03:00 -
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Still vastly superior to Pyfa
EFT 4 lyfe |
Astald Ohtar
L'AGENCE
Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.30 19:24:00 -
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edt |
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Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
Not Usually Killing Everyone.
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Posted - 2011.11.30 19:48:00 -
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Morganta wrote:your download service sucks
I can understand waiting to click the DL button, but having to wait a second countdown when you click it?
lame
Use eve files instead, i always do for each new version :D
The Drake is a Lie |
Tetragammatron Prime
Pink Sockers
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Posted - 2011.11.30 22:40:00 -
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thanks! |
Gripen
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Posted - 2011.11.30 22:59:00 -
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Crucible version is available.
pmchem wrote:For EFT: the mwd-running calculations were close, but a bit too optimistic as far as cycling mods goes. EFT and pyfa both assumed the abaddon had infinite cap booster charges. In reality, the abaddon has 525m3 of cargo space. The heavy cap booster 2 can load 10 charges of cap booster 400 and fit 32 in a non-expanded cargo hold. It just runs out of cap charges. This should probably be considered a bug, as the program could estimate max # of cap boosters available without getting more from a can. This problem is pretty obvious to anyone who has ever theorycrafted a setup with cap booster 800s (which are pretty bulky).
I can't say this is a bug because I never claimed EFT counts cap booster charges. To simulate this you need take into account containers which people use to store cap charges inside the cargohold and weapon charges which also take up some room. At some point I was working on ability to specify all the stuff one could put in the cargohold and on the new capacitor algorithm which would also take that into account but got bored of it and never finished. Also testing showed that difference between new and old algorithms is negliable.
Ok, I'll try to update capacitor calculation later because it's almost fininshed (but not the cargohold stuff) but can I ask why such precision matters to you? It's not like you can finish real ingame fight with up to few seconds accuracy to avoid yourself running out of cap and for uses where you just compare what is better to fit like "cap recharge rig" or "mwd-less-cap-use rig" errors introduced by capacitor calculation should cancel each other out.
DJB16 wrote:in EFT there is an option under File / Prefrences called *include reload time in dps* if unticked it might cause the infin charges in booster issue ur seeing (i might be wrong but worth a try)
This option affects only DPS calculation. Cap Booster reloads are always included because most people using biggest charges possible so cap booster running about as much time as it stays in reloading state. |
Arec Bardwin
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.01 00:04:00 -
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Awesome as always! Appreciate the effort a lot! |
Berendas
Clandestine Vector
THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2011.12.01 00:28:00 -
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EFT delivers, as always  Thanks for your continued efforts in making this community worth being a part of. |
Djakku
Pod Liberation Authority
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.12.01 00:52:00 -
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Thanks for this update!!! |
Mathis Athins
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.01 01:00:00 -
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You Sir are a scholar and a gentleman. Thank you for providing us with this great program. |
ItsmeHcK1
Kicked.
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Posted - 2011.12.01 01:50:00 -
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Good day sir!
In the interest of developing software, I haz a bug to report:
Every now and again, but quite often, (seemingly random) EFT will not save changes I've made, be it to configuration or fittings.
There will be no files written, or any action to save anything really.
Things I've tried:
1. Set everything to write by everyone, in case that was the matter.
2. Different computers, different locations and even complete fresh installs of Windows on a freshly formatted drive.
3. Different methods of closing; close the fit before closing EFT and vice versa.
I love EFT, and I thank you for it, but I must admit this is bugging the crap out of me, as hours of EFT warrioring may just be lost with no records whatsoever. |
Zedah Zoid
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
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Posted - 2011.12.01 05:10:00 -
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Another instance of unknown WININET error # 127 with EFT 2.14 when trying to update character via the API.
I verified I have the wininet.dll file in c:\windows\system32
I tried running EFT in XP compatability mode and with admin privilege as a test. No joy.
I'm running Windows VistaGäó Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 64 bit
BTW, thanks much for this tool. I have used it for years and Eve would be very much harder to enjoy without it! |
NetheranE
Nova Ardour
4
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Posted - 2011.12.01 05:51:00 -
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Zedah Zoid wrote:Another instance of unknown WININET error # 127 with EFT 2.14 when trying to update character via the API.
I verified I have the wininet.dll file in c:\windows\system32
I tried running EFT in XP compatability mode and with admin privilege as a test. No joy.
I'm running Windows VistaGäó Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 64 bit
BTW, thanks much for this tool. I have used it for years and Eve would be very much harder to enjoy without it!
Your using Windows ****-sta, there's a reason your having problems. Upgrade your OS to Windows 7 and **** off with the bitching imo.
Better yet, learn coding, programming, and all the wonderful things Gripen has taken his time to learn and just write/code your OWN fix for the problem and post it here like a boss. However, you'll probably embark on this, then suddenly realise that "OHSHIT, this crap this way more complicated than I'd have thought" and you'll gain an appreciation what kind of hard work is require to make things like this be compatible with **** software like Microsoft ****-sta. Then you'll cut your bitching in due course and then hopefully just upgrade to Windows 7 in the end and save us all further posts about the ****-sta failing to authenticate.
^ This all at Xen especially, as much as we ruv your trolling in dod local, Gripen deserves nothing but respect at this point. |
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