It's been repurposed to an Attack Battleship & cruise missiles, which is the weapon of choice for Raven pilots, have received a significant buff to their performance. Overall the new Raven will perform far better than the old one.

Why do I get a feeling this guy fly Raven PVE or even Raven Screenshots and thinks thats the way it should be. Fun fun.

Why do I get a feeling this guy fly Raven PVE or even Raven Screenshots and thinks thats the way it should be. Fun fun.

humor me: tell me how exactly keeping the bonuses as they were, low slot number - as it was.. and taking one high slot away results in higher damage potential?

at pve - yes.
at pvp - are you stupid? rhetorical, incase you didn`t get that bit.

The Raven had 7 Highs and 6 Missile Hardpoints, now it has 6 Highs and 6 Missile Hardpoints, it lost a utility high for an extra midslot, that's a good trade.

It's also faster, has way more fitting, and cruise missiles are awesome now.

You're an idiot.

cause he said that himself :DDD he IS a hisec fart still struggling with l4`s. what do you expect?:D

Oh, I'm sorry. I could have sworn earlier you were complaining it was a nerf for pve pilots. It's still a good deal for pvp pilots, even though a raven is a bad idea for most pvp in most every situation I've seen. Look at it this way, you lose a neut but you gain a web/scram or painter. More damage is always a good idea for pvp, and missiles are bad for pvp. Sad but true.

sorry my dear little cheap troll.. ignored. i`d like to say "cya" but i know i won`t.

rants

Maybe they should include when picking characters. Caldari is only more PvE. Not only do missiles suck for PvP, but so do all caldari ships.

It's so lovely to see all these "PVPers of HighSec or theory" praising Raven nerf. Lots of fun. Thanks Xam! :-)

OP I really don't see what your problem is.

Lets take the Raven with Cruise now doing an extra 30% damage with faster base flight time added to the hulls bonuses this allows you to apply that damage far better than you were before and should more than makes up for the loss of a high slot.

You have increased PG and CPU allowing you better fitting options as well as an additional mid-slot and increased capacitor.

While you have lost some native tank you have gained extra speed a faster align time and a lowered sig radius .

As for HML's there range was excessive and gave to much of an advantage to missile spamming gangs, I do tend to think the DPS drop was a little on the high side but not enough to worry me. Try HAM Drakes, they are fun boats and do a good job unless of course you have personal problems with opponents actually being within effective combat range of you.

The fact is that Caldari ships are used more now in PvP (with the exception of the Drake and the Blackbird) than I have seen since I started playing the game. This rebalance has given the Raven a chance to crawl out fo the PvE oubliette it has languished in for years as the T1 cruiser rebalance brought the Caldari hulls back into the light.

If you don't want to see this then that is of course up to you to maintain your delusion of choice.

try again miss, this time, make some sense :D if missiles are so bad for pve, lol ccp wouldn`t have nerfed HMLs.. and now ravens :D YES.. higher dps is good for pvp .. at the same time.. there are other things to pvp .. like neuts, AOE.. potential of which was so nicely decreased on ravens.

So is reding idiots who can't explain how they used thier raven in pvp since it's a **** combo of range bonus on large missile to begin with. It was unable to brawl because the tank was bad, the rage bonus on missile is poor at best because it put cruise way too damn far to be usable and torps are still bad damage application on any target faster than a POS.

So is reding idiots who can't explain how they used thier raven in pvp since it's a **** combo of range bonus on large missile to begin with. It was unable to brawl because the tank was bad, the rage bonus on missile is poor at best because it put cruise way too damn far to be usable and torps are still bad damage application on any target faster than a POS.

lesson for those that are still convinced the new launcher was a major buff to the game: one uses raven in a same way as a mega with blasters.. only, does higher dmg at anything that`s bigger than a frig. clear enough or still struggling? try tetris first.

What's the range on neuts and smartbombs? shorter than t2 point, right? Who are you killing, other than people that don't know to stay out of neut range?

oh .. so let`s see.. they`ve taken the weapon type that basically would let raven use HALF of the potential dps on it, buffed the dmg of that weapon by 30% (for really slow people.. that`s still worse than torps) and called it a buff? while removing a high slot.. which was normally used to fit a neut or smarty. makes sen...er... :D come back when you`re old enough to buy beer.

if you`re using a disrupt on a bs with short ranged weaponry.. you really shouldn`t have stopped mining that veldspar.

Oh I see, you want to go toe to toe with a real battleship. Good luck with that.

How many painters do you run to be able to get any damage application on those torps? Because it's pretty much only on bombers and golems that they do anything good. The explosion velocity is so large you can be at least partially speed tanked by a dread...

How many painters do you run to be able to get any damage application on those torps? Because it's pretty much only on bombers and golems that they do anything good. The explosion velocity is so large you can be at least partially speed tanked by a dread...

Brawling in a raven. Talk about no using the right ship for the job...

I don't get it.. What is the job of the raven? It can't kite with cruiser missiles...