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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.11.08 19:18:00 -
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So fellow yarrs, what do you plan on doing since sniping (the only way to actually make isk in piracy) is gone and instas are still in.
Not to mention belt piracy doesn't work since  just dock when you enter system.
I was thinking get someone to fly a scorp armor tanked and some booster and disrupters to hold a prey long enough for the more hard hitting BS's to get lock and kill.
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Dr jekyII
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Posted - 2005.11.08 19:28:00 -
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0.0 .. no sentrys |
Perfektion
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Posted - 2005.11.08 19:29:00 -
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Dio wouldnt go into 0.0. the people there might actually fight back.
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Dr jekyII
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Posted - 2005.11.08 19:31:00 -
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they might... but that means waiting for 20 vs 5 dont it ? |
Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.11.08 19:35:00 -
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Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 08/11/2005 19:35:49
 Originally by: Dr jekyII
0.0 .. no sentrys
Pfft, my security status might start going back up then. Not to mention, you just exchanged empire piracy for blob 0.0 warefare. Boring.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2005.11.08 19:38:00 -
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I always made more money tanking sentries than I did sniping. So I don't see the problem.
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Dr jekyII
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Posted - 2005.11.08 19:41:00 -
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why they stopping us from stacking more than 2x btw ? |
RedClaws
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Posted - 2005.11.08 19:42:00 -
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what do you mean sniping is gone?
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TekRa
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Posted - 2005.11.08 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 08/11/2005 19:35:49
Originally by: Dr jekyII
0.0 .. no sentrys
Pfft, my security status might start going back up then. Not to mention, you just exchanged empire piracy for blob 0.0 warefare. Boring.
no more boring than gate sniping.
sit there for hours, oh an indy! pop. a shuttle! pop. a reaper! pop. (anything bigger than frigate)! warps off.
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Dr jekyII
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Posted - 2005.11.08 19:47:00 -
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i like to snipe the gates cus i like hearing all the whiney f&*%^ in channel and the uber pvp pilots in the forums tbh
saying that.. get the right gate and theres plenty of traffic |
Azaeren
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Posted - 2005.11.08 19:55:00 -
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Eh
Ill be using the same ol' 650mm or 800mm T2 autocannons while i tank the sentrys:) nothing like a wonderfully profitable 250m+ isk a week:)
please. Continue to fly through lowsec with your iterion5 loaded to the gills with t2 items and other expensive nonsense :D |
Psycarne
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Posted - 2005.11.08 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
So fellow yarrs, what do you plan on doing since sniping (the only way to actually make isk in piracy) is gone and instas are still in.
Not to mention belt piracy doesn't work since just dock when you enter system.
I was thinking get someone to fly a scorp armor tanked and some booster and disrupters to hold a prey long enough for the more hard hitting BS's to get lock and kill.
Sniping is not the only way to make isk from pirating. I have made 100's of millions from pirating in belts,a nd at complexes 
Whining sniping pirates give us all a bad name.
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Blind Man
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Posted - 2005.11.08 19:59:00 -
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I just do belt piracy...and use an alt to make money 
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Lodhi
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Posted - 2005.11.08 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
So fellow yarrs, what do you plan on doing since sniping (the only way to actually make isk in piracy) is gone and instas are still in.
Not to mention belt piracy doesn't work since just dock when you enter system.
I was thinking get someone to fly a scorp armor tanked and some booster and disrupters to hold a prey long enough for the more hard hitting BS's to get lock and kill.
Since when is sniping the only way of making isk?
Ok ive only been piewating for like 1,5 month now, but ive made 150m+ in belt's.
Dont know if that's good, but it's enough for me and im having fun doing it.
Nothing more fun then ransom ppl, or trying to do it.
And the loot u get from time to time and bad either, to many carebears with to mutch cash out there 
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Dr jekyII
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Posted - 2005.11.08 20:12:00 -
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what about the merc's..no more covert kills on snipers
WHERES the fun CCP? :P
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Azaeren
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Posted - 2005.11.08 20:15:00 -
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there is no piracy in .0, so please dont confuse "surprise PVP" with empire "true" piracy.
.0 doesnt have any laws, so you cant possibly be a pirate.
but yes, Dio, we will just have to continue gateganking:D its far more effective then sniping to be honest.
also, im feeling interceptor/assfrig attacking complex action sometime soon :)  |
Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.11.08 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Psycarne
I have made 100's of millions from pirating in belts,
May I ask where you pirate, because everyone in low security Amarr region just goes and insta docks as soon as you appear on local. I honestly think a lot of it also has do to with your characters name. I of course would usually appear on the more notiacable top while you would be more hidden.
Immediate local has to go.
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Dr jekyII
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Posted - 2005.11.08 20:25:00 -
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i thought piracy was shoot and ransom,loot anyone in a ship.wether he/she in empire or 0.
what kinda true piracy you talking about..sec hit and stuff? |
Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.11.08 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Dr jekyII
i thought piracy was shoot and ransom,loot anyone in a ship.wether he/she in empire or 0.
what kinda true piracy you talking about..sec hit and stuff?
0.0 is lawless, you can't commit a crime and be a pirate if there is no law. Hence, unless you are blinking, you are no just trying to
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Lodhi
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Posted - 2005.11.08 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Originally by: Psycarne
I have made 100's of millions from pirating in belts,
May I ask where you pirate, because everyone in low security Amarr region just goes and insta docks as soon as you appear on local. I honestly think a lot of it also has do to with your characters name. I of course would usually appear on the more notiacable top while you would be more hidden.
Immediate local has to go.
Look for a place were there is lot's of ship and podd kills.
Place really close to nonni. 
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.11.08 20:34:00 -
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CCP had removed instant local some time back but abandoned their own vision and gave in to whining. That made me  crocodile tears.
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Psycarne
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Posted - 2005.11.08 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Originally by: Psycarne
I have made 100's of millions from pirating in belts,
May I ask where you pirate, because everyone in low security Amarr region just goes and insta docks as soon as you appear on local. I honestly think a lot of it also has do to with your characters name. I of course would usually appear on the more notiacable top while you would be more hidden.
Immediate local has to go.
Aunenen. And I mostly do it in small ships rifters etc, so people don't tend to run as fast. Also you can find a lot of NPCers about.
Though I have to admit I did get lucky and make 250mill from a wolf vs hawk 1v1 one time  And 80mill another time from a harpy.
But in general I find you can make ok isk belt pirating, complex pirating and ransoming. Maybe it does depend alot on where you pirate though.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.11.08 20:36:00 -
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heh no piracy in 0.0 what a joke. Don't speak on something you have no idea about. Because you fail doesn't mean others fail. Assumptions are also ignorant as well listening to others who say something is dead. It is true majority of the trade runs and mining occurs in Empire yet the alliances today are HUGE. Lots of 0.0 mining going on and lots of transport ops going in and out of systems. Pirates are simply to scared to engage or yet to stupid to see it. I can think of nothing better but 1 frieghter and 1 scorpion moving a full load of ore up 7 systems alone. Why can't you?
If sniping is gone there is still tanking which so many have said. Only problem with tanking is the fact you have to tank massive gun fire while diverted to a single target. Which leaves a big weakness on pirates part. Even more on a solo pirates part. None the less, it's similar to sniping. Whatever kills the target... Isk always to be made in empire. So I have no clue wth Dio is on. But it must be good.
-Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.11.08 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
heh no piracy in 0.0 what a joke.
1st) Never assume I don't go to 0.0, I have and do.
2nd) You can't break laws when there is none in 0.0. In fact, 0.0 just proves that anarchy is a bad, bad idea.
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Thomas Torquemada
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Posted - 2005.11.08 21:14:00 -
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Edited by: Thomas Torquemada on 08/11/2005 21:14:40
Simply another kick in the teeth for -10 characters (utterly knackered pirates lifestyle, now instead of 2 things, we can do 1, gate ganks, whoopde flipping doo) and more fluffy goodness for boring miners etc.
UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace?
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.11.08 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: JoCool
CCP had removed instant local some time back but abandoned their own vision and gave in to whining. That made me crocodile tears.
Back when I was bearing it up, I wish it was still in because then you didn't have to worry about people passing by taking an oppurtintiy kill.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2005.11.08 21:52:00 -
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As others say I just forsee us all having to tank lots if solo and wanting to kill at gates
As for belt piracy only way we can really manage is covert ops alts but then they get known and are useless so we go back to tanking...
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.11.08 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
heh no piracy in 0.0 what a joke.
1st) Never assume I don't go to 0.0, I have and do.
2nd) You can't break laws when there is none in 0.0. In fact, 0.0 just proves that anarchy is a bad, bad idea.
0.0 isn't anarchy. Alliances have the control of law. People break them day to day. Wither or not they can justify it is not really the matter. Anyways, what does breaking laws have to do with anything? You're not a pirate unless you're near concord or something? More pointless statements 4tw...
-Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Vmir Gallahasen
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Posted - 2005.11.08 23:33:00 -
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As for belt piracy only way we can really manage is covert ops alts but then they get known and are useless so we go back to tanking...
You could always hop into a smaller ship (i.e. cruiser/frigate) and learn to use the scanner, rather than using a covops alt to warp your bs gank squad on top of that 10 day old NPC corp caracal
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Lodhi
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Posted - 2005.11.08 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Vmir Gallahasen
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As for belt piracy only way we can really manage is covert ops alts but then they get known and are useless so we go back to tanking...
You could always hop into a smaller ship (i.e. cruiser/frigate) and learn to use the scanner, rather than using a covops alt to warp your bs gank squad on top of that 10 day old NPC corp caracal
You beat me to it :)
Nice said
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2005.11.08 23:50:00 -
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I'll continue making a profit doing belt piracy.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Necrologic
I'll continue making a profit doing belt piracy.
Your name also doesn't appear on the top of local.
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Plim
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:17:00 -
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Ask the GMs to put a Z at the start of your name
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Plim
Ask the GMs to put a Z at the start of your name
Going to file comedy petition for name change 
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Caeruleus Ardea
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:26:00 -
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Belt piracy is a lot more involved than just ganking or sniping and requires more skill to be effective. Takes practice, but you learn a lot and you can make a lot as well. Plus its a lot more fun to hunt someone rather than sit around (sounds like mining ships instead of ore to me).
I have had a good bit of success pirating in belts, not to say that there isn't a learning curve, but once you get the basics (using a scanner fast and effectively) you can start doing some damage and putting that isk in your pocket.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Vmir Gallahasen
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As for belt piracy only way we can really manage is covert ops alts but then they get known and are useless so we go back to tanking...
You could always hop into a smaller ship (i.e. cruiser/frigate) and learn to use the scanner, rather than using a covops alt to warp your bs gank squad on top of that 10 day old NPC corp caracal
pff, if you would ever tried belt piracy you would know it better. Best is if you enter a system in a navitas and you make 5 BS dock and smack from station how much you suck since you couldnt kill them. Sorry but thats the reality you face when you try to pirate in low sec.
Its just not worth the time or my appearence since the ammount of bad language and insults is nothing I want to see when I play a game.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:30:00 -
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Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 09/11/2005 00:32:12
Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 09/11/2005 00:31:06
Originally by: Caeruleus Ardea
(using a scanner fast and effectively) you can start doing some damage and putting that isk in your pocket.
If you mean adding the belts to overview, warpping to the planet, putting the range to 180 and see what shows up and what belts on teh scanner, narrowing it more then 60 and looking at the previously shown up belts that showed goodies it isn't hard to do, but I'd love to know how you are suppose to do this without resorting to a alt. Anyone that sees you in local checks you out (I know because as soon as I enter system the idiots convo straight away because I have filter off), see your security and run.
Basically, I am calling BS on you. Gate piracy is the only piracy in low security for us outlaws, and ccp gives us no other options but to kill everything that enters.
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Vmir Gallahasen
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As for belt piracy only way we can really manage is covert ops alts but then they get known and are useless so we go back to tanking...
You could always hop into a smaller ship (i.e. cruiser/frigate) and learn to use the scanner, rather than using a covops alt to warp your bs gank squad on top of that 10 day old NPC corp caracal
pff, if you would ever tried belt piracy you would know it better. Best is if you enter a system in a navitas and you make 5 BS dock and smack from station how much you suck since you couldnt kill them. Sorry but thats the reality you face when you try to pirate in low sec.
Its just not worth the time or my appearence since the ammount of bad language and insults is nothing I want to see when I play a game.
now you are talking with your lazy excuse gene.
during the last month i have made so freaking much isk doing belt piracy.
our members have killed ravens solo with frigates, we have gangbanged ppl everywhere in system where we have managed to find their missionspots or safespots.
loot has been awesome enough for me to buy and insure 3more battleships this month.
ive also bought me a couple of hacs to play with and a assortment of intys, assault, BC's and regular cruisers.
and you know what?, i still got money and **** to sell.
maybe you just are trying to do it in the wrong way?
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 09/11/2005 00:32:12
Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 09/11/2005 00:31:06
Originally by: Caeruleus Ardea
(using a scanner fast and effectively) you can start doing some damage and putting that isk in your pocket.
If you mean adding the belts to overview, warpping to the planet, putting the range to 180 and see what shows up and what belts on teh scanner, narrowing it more then 60 and looking at the previously shown up belts that showed goodies it isn't hard to do, but I'd love to know how you are suppose to do this without resorting to a alt. Anyone that sees you in local checks you out (I know because as soon as I enter system the idiots convo straight away because I have filter off), see your security and run.
Basically, I am calling BS on you. Gate piracy is the only piracy in low security for us outlaws, and ccp gives us no other options but to kill everything that enters.
if you know the system it doesnt take more then 30sec to narrow down around wich area a person is in and the another 30sec to know exactly where he is if he isnt at a safespot or one of those funky off plane safespots wich cant be probed.
and if he is at a safespot you can probe then you should have someone probe him asap. and then go kill/ransom him.
but that would mean working harder then sitting 151k off the gate 23/7 doing "target....shoot" and have a hauler loot and dump in station.
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Psycarne
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:44:00 -
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I really don't get this. I have gone to -10 just from belt pirating. I haven't gate ganked, or sniped once. People don't just insta dock as soon as they see you on local in my experiance (then again I live only in one system).
Maybe the people in aunenen are just not as bright as everyone else? Maybe I have more patience? I certainly didn't expect to hear that old belt pirating is too hard argument from a member of Teddys.
Every now and again I will get someone on local saying "where are you pirates" or some such, because they actually EXPECT you to only gate gank, but I don't think my rifter would last very long. Pirates have been making excuses for not belt pirating for too long.
I hope I don't sound like I am flaming anyone, but if we can do it, i'm sure people who have been pirating for 1 year + should be able to do.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:46:00 -
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Every system I vist they log off or dock at the station with instas. Can't exactly probe them out.
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Originally by: Necrologic
I'll continue making a profit doing belt piracy.
Your name also doesn't appear on the top of local.
So THAT'S why i'm succesful...
Not that it matters when there are only a couple people in local.
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Day Trade
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Malken
now you are talking with your lazy excuse gene.
during the last month i have made so freaking much isk doing belt piracy.
our members have killed ravens solo with frigates, we have gangbanged ppl everywhere in system where we have managed to find their missionspots or safespots.
loot has been awesome enough for me to buy and insure 3more battleships this month.
ive also bought me a couple of hacs to play with and a assortment of intys, assault, BC's and regular cruisers.
and you know what?, i still got money and **** to sell.
maybe you just are trying to do it in the wrong way?
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Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
heh no piracy in 0.0 what a joke. Don't speak on something you have no idea about. Because you fail doesn't mean others fail.
How exactly do you figure this?
You can *sort of* pirate in unclaimed 0.0, or contested 0.0 -- but it's absolutely pointless in the majority of 0.0 -- somebody sees you, get's in alliance chat and you're blobbed in an instant.
Sorry, I don't do blob fights :)
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
In short:
Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Necrologic
Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Originally by: Necrologic
I'll continue making a profit doing belt piracy.
Your name also doesn't appear on the top of local.
So THAT'S why i'm succesful...
Not that it matters when there are only a couple people in local.
Most locals only show 3-4 names, odds are yours would appear at the bottom and not at the top screaming "PIRATE BE HERE".
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Remedial
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:52:00 -
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You know, instead of whining about how you can't do enough damage at 150km+ after the patch, you could get a friend in a tanked and/or boosted Raven (+resists post RMR, too) to just scramble whatever defenseless haulers come through so you have extra time to kill them.
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Day Trade
Originally by: Malken
now you are talking with your lazy excuse gene.
during the last month i have made so freaking much isk doing belt piracy.
our members have killed ravens solo with frigates, we have gangbanged ppl everywhere in system where we have managed to find their missionspots or safespots.
loot has been awesome enough for me to buy and insure 3more battleships this month.
ive also bought me a couple of hacs to play with and a assortment of intys, assault, BC's and regular cruisers.
and you know what?, i still got money and **** to sell.
maybe you just are trying to do it in the wrong way?
We can't all own in Eve mr. Malken, if we did none would own in RL and the economy would fail.
of course we cant mr.noname alt who smells of new clone issues.
infact im the one of our gang with the most losses as im often on at weird hours fighting solo.
and its not a question of owning everyone, its a question is it possible or not.
and im just outright shocked that some wellknown pirates says it is impossible to do belt piracy anymore and both me and Psycarne has shown that it is not impossible.
it is infact highly possible.
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Firstname Lastname
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Posted - 2005.11.09 01:00:00 -
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I had an idea for a lowsec revamp a while back, it went something like this:
.4 sec, close to highsec empire, has sentries, real-time local list update, faction navy battleships that attack pirates (not unkillable like CONCORD, just good guys instead of pirate rats) at every gate & sentries, harder to pirate in but possible
.3 sec, further in, delayed local update, sentries & frigate navy npcs that engage pirates at gates & stations
.2 sec, no faction npcs, delayed local, weaker sentries that are possibly destroyable i dunno
.1 sec, no sentries, delayed local, possible battleship/cruiser rat spawns on gate, making it possible to pirate gates in smaller ships
also in the ideal world sentries wouldn't fire on you after you left and came back, and wouldn't fire on you if you ganked someone in a belt but that's just me.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.11.09 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Malken
and im just outright shocked that some wellknown pirates says it is impossible to do belt piracy anymore and both me and Psycarne has shown that it is not impossible.
FRAPS plz, I bet you use an alt not to mention again your names don't appear on top of local.
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Werner Bohr
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Posted - 2005.11.09 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Perfektion
Dio wouldnt go into 0.0. the people there might actually fight back.
Sup Camador
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.11.09 01:05:00 -
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Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 09/11/2005 01:05:48
Originally by: Werner Bohr
Originally by: Perfektion
Dio wouldnt go into 0.0. the people there might actually fight back.
Sup Camador
I guess he is still kissing Burn Eden butt since he needs hide behind an alt.
<!Insert WCS Joke>
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Psycarne
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Posted - 2005.11.09 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Originally by: Malken
and im just outright shocked that some wellknown pirates says it is impossible to do belt piracy anymore and both me and Psycarne has shown that it is not impossible.
FRAPS plz, I bet you use an alt not to mention again your names don't appear on top of local.
I have about 24GBs, god knows how much Malken has got  . There is a wombles video in the works btw, it is called "How we make cans".
Im having compatibility problems though, so I can't complete it until I get some better editing software (I need to speed up the scenes by 25% but what i'm using atm is crap).
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.11.09 01:22:00 -
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Belt piracy and complex piracy are both alive and well. Retards in Eve(bears), routinely fail to watch local. It's like the fricking golden rule of eve!
Only limiting factor are sec hits which, thb, are the biggest inhibitor by far. Logic and maximizing your profit entails moving around frequently and placing yourself in optimal "choke" points of low sec around the galaxy. Sec hits make that process a huge PITA.
WTB the old days where your sec status eroded positively when you went "afk" on a given character for a period of time. If we could get that back, then all you'd have to do is field a stable of alts and pirate consecutively with them while the ones on "afk" status redeemed their sec status >< :)
What pirates need
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.11.09 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Berak FalCheran
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
heh no piracy in 0.0 what a joke. Don't speak on something you have no idea about. Because you fail doesn't mean others fail.
How exactly do you figure this?
You can *sort of* pirate in unclaimed 0.0, or contested 0.0 -- but it's absolutely pointless in the majority of 0.0 -- somebody sees you, get's in alliance chat and you're blobbed in an instant.
Sorry, I don't do blob fights :)
Well it's rather simple really. You should know if you have played EVE long that Alliances mine. Alliances build stuff and move stuff around. Some weaker alliances even do this with weak defenses. Which alliances, well that's something you have to research as I did. The isk is there just as it is in empire with people running with weak defense into 0.4-0.1 systems.
I really don't understand what you mean by "Blob Fights". I mean do you really think that if you happen to gank a alliance hauler that a massive blob is going to come and find you and instant pop you? I mean if you're sitting there gate camping as in NOT ROAMING or even worse not using tactics then yeah I guess I could fear a blob. Being a solo pirate/pvp pilot, if someone sends a blob down to flush me out then by the time they get there im already gone or SS cloaked.
Maybe you're just one of them guys who likes to set up camp in one system and not roam around though. So people know where you are and so you can be blobbed. But hey, we all have weaknesses eh?
-Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2005.11.09 04:34:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Originally by: Necrologic
Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Originally by: Necrologic
I'll continue making a profit doing belt piracy.
Your name also doesn't appear on the top of local.
So THAT'S why i'm succesful...
Not that it matters when there are only a couple people in local.
Most locals only show 3-4 names, odds are yours would appear at the bottom and not at the top screaming "PIRATE BE HERE".
99% of the time there arn't more than 3 people in system. Normally if sombody is in a belt i am on top of them within 30 seconds if i know the system, 40 if i don't. Saying you can't get kills or make a profit because of where your name shows in local is pritty weak, chances are much higher that you just suck at catching people, but i've never seen you in action so i don't really know.
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albert camus
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Posted - 2005.11.09 04:43:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Originally by: Necrologic
I'll continue making a profit doing belt piracy.
Your name also doesn't appear on the top of local.
You think your name is bad I am 90% of the time always at the TOP of the local list
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2005.11.09 09:18:00 -
[57]
It's alot easier to make a living without camping up north because noobs congregate around nonni and spill out into low sec.
The southern regions are horrible for belt/plex ratting.
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Azaeren
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Posted - 2005.11.09 09:52:00 -
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Well, I just wish I could have popped this freighter, going through lowsec without instas :D
ok here are stats from the fight:
Time: 11/3/2005 12:38:35 PM
Character: Azaeren
Location: XXXXXXXXXX a 0.3 system
Duration: 00:05:39 <lol almost 6 minutes at a gate>
My Weapons Used
800mm Repeating Artillery I
Enemies Attacked
Tardplayer with expensive ship 'Akira'(Fenrir)
Damage Done: 37014.80
Damage Received: 41906.30 <from sentrys and billboard, not the guy as he has no weapons>
Atleast I got a 70m isk ransom before he managed to crawl to the gate and jump out. Im wondering how much it cost him to repair that beast of a ship. |
Razner Cerizo
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Posted - 2005.11.09 09:56:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
So fellow yarrs, what do you plan on doing since sniping (the only way to actually make isk in piracy) is gone and instas are still in.
We will be doing the exact same thing we always have been doing - ransoming people in belts.
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VHI - Yes, we are belt pirates.
No, we wont make stuff for you :( |
Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2005.11.09 10:36:00 -
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Dude just check the video channel theres tons of movies about belt piracy, the ones from Lyticus (s******dly) come to my mind for example...
Maybe you should get down your tall horse and realise belt piracy aint too hard but u just suck at it? (not a flame, everyone need to learn at some point)
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Xendie
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Posted - 2005.11.09 11:04:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Dude just check the video channel theres tons of movies about belt piracy, the ones from Lyticus (s******dly) come to my mind for example...
Maybe you should get down your tall horse and realise belt piracy aint too hard but u just suck at it? (not a flame, everyone need to learn at some point)
w0rd!
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Farjung
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Posted - 2005.11.09 12:00:00 -
[62]
With the move to low sec by the dedicated mission *****s, there is another option to belt piracy and gate ganking. Despite common opinion, deadspace missions are probe-able, but it's a question of luck and practice whether you can find the deadspace mission fast enough that they haven't already finished the mission. Extravaganzas are nice as there's not too much travel distance between the gates usually, so you're likely to land pretty close to your target.
And of course missions that occur near planets are extremely easy to probe.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.11.09 13:48:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 09/11/2005 13:49:33
Originally by: Necrologic
99% of the time there arn't more than 3 people in system. Normally if sombody is in a belt i am on top of them within 30 seconds if i know the system, 40 if i don't. Saying you can't get kills or make a profit because of where your name shows in local is pritty weak, chances are much higher that you just suck at catching people, but i've never seen you in action so i don't really know.
I welcome you to come down south and try, because last night I found a 4 person mining op and literly as soon as my screen loaded they all had logged out.
I'd sure like these super skills that allows you to catch them before they do.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.11.09 13:52:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 09/11/2005 13:52:29
Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 09/11/2005 13:49:33
Originally by: Necrologic
99% of the time there arn't more than 3 people in system. Normally if sombody is in a belt i am on top of them within 30 seconds if i know the system, 40 if i don't. Saying you can't get kills or make a profit because of where your name shows in local is pritty weak, chances are much higher that you just suck at catching people, but i've never seen you in action so i don't really know.
I welcome you to come down south and try, because last night I found a 4 person mining op and literly as soon as my screen loaded they all had logged out.
I'd sure like these super skills that allows you to catch them before they do.
rofl... Anyways, maybe it's your corp and maybe it's your bounty (If you have one). Loot is umm not that small and well known for piracy. Same as Sniggy. More noobs know Sniggy than they know My corp and we have been doing it way longer than Sniggy. So yeah, everything counts and your not counting it. Nothing to do with D in your name.
-Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Rivek
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Posted - 2005.11.09 15:17:00 -
[65]
Belt or complex or mission spawn point piracy is certainly alive... but I'm not sure if its well. Why?
Local chat: that oh so omniscient scout, really puts a damper on your chances of catching anyone or anything if you are a known and negative SS pirate.
MWD use: Catching anyone in a complex or deadspace mission without the use of a MWD is additionally difficult.
Keyed Complexes are nearly instancing: Often you cant get near your potential target as most complexes are protected by keys, easily preventing you from geting to the potential victims.
Mission runner bookmarks nigh unscanable: So often well off the solar plane leaving you unable to find them with scan probes.
That leaves belts (which are not as often populated as they were been pre exodus) and require a sleeping target and gates which require using tanking BS (largely unable to tackle) or snipers (which most people agree is somewhat lame).
Hence the whinage by some. Removing local chat or delaying entry would go a long way toward improving piracy options, making it both more feasable when you did find someone in a system and simultaneously more difficult to find anyone.
See your name in lights at TunDraGon.com |
Xendie
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Posted - 2005.11.09 15:50:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Rivek
Belt or complex or mission spawn point piracy is certainly alive... but I'm not sure if its well. Why?
Local chat: that oh so omniscient scout, really puts a damper on your chances of catching anyone or anything if you are a known and negative SS pirate.
MWD use: Catching anyone in a complex or deadspace mission without the use of a MWD is additionally difficult.
Keyed Complexes are nearly instancing: Often you cant get near your potential target as most complexes are protected by keys, easily preventing you from geting to the potential victims.
Mission runner bookmarks nigh unscanable: So often well off the solar plane leaving you unable to find them with scan probes.
That leaves belts (which are not as often populated as they were been pre exodus) and require a sleeping target and gates which require using tanking BS (largely unable to tackle) or snipers (which most people agree is somewhat lame).
Hence the whinage by some. Removing local chat or delaying entry would go a long way toward improving piracy options, making it both more feasable when you did find someone in a system and simultaneously more difficult to find anyone.
why not just remove the sentrys around stations on .4 and below
and make probes usable beyond the crappy .5au up and down plane.
i dont like the sniping at gates as it takes no skill basically to just sit and hit F1-F8.
ive done it but its no fun, however CCP has forced pirating to become mostly BS oriented due to sentrys in low sec.
so with a area where there are few ppl stopping and living there is little to no option but to snipe people who pass the system.
the whole sentry in low sec needs to be reconsidered or reconstructed somehow.
it is suppoused to be a dangerous place not very safe as it is now for mission runners.
the piracy proffession need a bone, throw us a few CCP, its about time.
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Ginger Magician
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Posted - 2005.11.09 16:29:00 -
[67]
If pirates cant snipe then they wont be much point staying in empire.The main reason i sniped so much was cause of the 15 min timer.If i cant snipe succesfully with 2 damage mods in empire i think i call it a day with Eve actually
im not gonna pay to play a game for 4 mins every hour
Ebaying Ginger should be quite interesting.
"Ginger Magician is just infamous. I've met more people ingame that have talked about him, than anyone else in Eve." |
Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.11.09 16:39:00 -
[68]
Won't the changes make ships more able to tank against changes? If there are less snipers then maybe mroe people will go into low sec.
To be honest wish Exodus was setup to move people away from high sec wmpire into the lower sec parts of the map.
El Presedente
Anti Pirate? Tired of sec hits? Join us for free wars! |
Sophie Mae
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Posted - 2005.11.09 17:10:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Well it's rather simple really. You should know if you have played EVE long that Alliances mine. Alliances build stuff and move stuff around. Some weaker alliances even do this with weak defenses. Which alliances, well that's something you have to research as I did. The isk is there just as it is in empire with people running with weak defense into 0.4-0.1 systems.
I really don't understand what you mean by "Blob Fights". I mean do you really think that if you happen to gank a alliance hauler that a massive blob is going to come and find you and instant pop you? I mean if you're sitting there gate camping as in NOT ROAMING or even worse not using tactics then yeah I guess I could fear a blob. Being a solo pirate/pvp pilot, if someone sends a blob down to flush me out then by the time they get there im already gone or SS cloaked.
Maybe you're just one of them guys who likes to set up camp in one system and not roam around though. So people know where you are and so you can be blobbed. But hey, we all have weaknesses eh?
You hit the nail on the head here. The area these guys do there "work" in is one in which the Alliance really gets off there arses to blob some lone pirate. I know because I have screamed on TS for them to come blob me out of trouble and they just laugh at me and say "Oh well, it is just a single hauler". LOL
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Sophie Mae
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Posted - 2005.11.09 17:15:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Sophie Mae on 09/11/2005 17:15:28
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
rofl... Anyways, maybe it's your corp and maybe it's your bounty (If you have one). Loot is umm not that small and well known for piracy. Same as Sniggy. More noobs know Sniggy than they know My corp and we have been doing it way longer than Sniggy. So yeah, everything counts and your not counting it. Nothing to do with D in your name.
I will admit Dionysus is correct in that he won't have any luck with belt piracy in Aridia, as he is far to well know and predictable. However, many other's in Aridia do it just fine, but then again they make a point of mixing it up and occationally taking there act on the road so as to allow the locals to become complacent again. Doing this requires effort, planning and a certian amount of risk though.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.11.09 17:36:00 -
[71]
Actually, I do take breaks. I spent 2 weeks away from the area just so people would drop their guard and enter low security when I am online. I've even been moving around ganking ships around on the highway lately. Belt EVERYTIME someone enters with negative security the all mighty defense system local chat lets them know you are there instead of making them work.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.11.09 17:39:00 -
[72]
It seem the fact that you are known means that the locals crow when you enter local. How about becoming nomadic so the locals never know who you are?
El Presedente
Anti Pirate? Tired of sec hits? Join us for free wars! |
Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.11.09 17:40:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 09/11/2005 17:41:52
Originally by: Hans Roaming
It seem the fact that you are known means that the locals crow when you enter local. How about becoming nomadic so the locals never know who you are?
Ok, and who is going to stick around when a -10 guy enters local? I use to bear it up in low security and I know I didn't either. Everyone that entered local I showed info. If I was at a complex I used the scanner to see if they went to the acceleration gate (Though I doubt most people do that part)
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Sophie Mae
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Posted - 2005.11.09 17:53:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Sophie Mae on 09/11/2005 17:54:13
Edited by: Sophie Mae on 09/11/2005 17:53:27
Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Actually, I do take breaks. I spent 2 weeks away from the area just so people would drop their guard and enter low security when I am online. I've even been moving around ganking ships around on the highway lately. Belt EVERYTIME someone enters with negative security the all mighty defense system local chat lets them know you are there instead of making them work.
Well, since your "break" was during the Bob cleansinng of Aridia there was hardly anytime for the locals to become complacent. In fact, they are probably more on edge than ever. The suggestion on becoming nomadic is what would serve you the best if you are really concerned about your livelihood becoming endangered. It is very true that many belt ratters and miners in other areas than Aridia can be very complacent and easy to jump. As the video's and testomonials should have proven to you by now, it is very much possible for a -10 well known pirate to make a living with belt piracy.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.11.09 18:57:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 09/11/2005 17:41:52
Originally by: Hans Roaming
It seem the fact that you are known means that the locals crow when you enter local. How about becoming nomadic so the locals never know who you are?
Ok, and who is going to stick around when a -10 guy enters local? I use to bear it up in low security and I know I didn't either. Everyone that entered local I showed info. If I was at a complex I used the scanner to see if they went to the acceleration gate (Though I doubt most people do that part)
I can feel what you're saying but then again it effects us all with low security. I enter a system and they see -7.0 and it's like dock or log off. But not everyone is paying attention to local all the time yet others are. Now I headed back out to 0.0 for more combat training because I lacked it in a number of fields. So now instead of just visting 0.0 for lone ops I'm based out of 0.0. The point here is, people don't dock in 0.0 because of my status. Nor do I have to in the same system to intercept someone. So on that hand, I don't see what you're saying.
You need to get out to more places and stop spending so much time in one region/system. Sounds like you found a nice fishing spot and you want to keep fishing it. Need to think outside the box and get to more new places to belt piracy. If not then you seriously need to start looking towards gate camping. That's where the most ISK is made in the first place. By the time they see your -10 or your name they're dead or being ransomed.
-Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Farjung
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Posted - 2005.11.09 19:23:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Rivek
Mission runner bookmarks nigh unscanable: So often well off the solar plane leaving you unable to find them with scan probes.
They are nonetheless scannable. A lot of practice with observators is required, and the process is pretty slow so you'll only really catch people if it's a long mission.
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.11.09 19:27:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Ginger Magician
If pirates cant snipe then they wont be much point staying in empire.The main reason i sniped so much was cause of the 15 min timer.If i cant snipe succesfully with 2 damage mods in empire i think i call it a day with Eve actually
im not gonna pay to play a game for 4 mins every hour
Ebaying Ginger should be quite interesting.
Surely that will just get whoever buys your account banned? ;)
Oh, and can't hack it in 0.0 then?
23? # Missile Tool # ex: P-TMC : USAC |
Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.11.09 21:04:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Farjung
Originally by: Rivek
Mission runner bookmarks nigh unscanable: So often well off the solar plane leaving you unable to find them with scan probes.
They are nonetheless scannable. A lot of practice with observators is required, and the process is pretty slow so you'll only really catch people if it's a long mission.
No one mission runs in South Amarr. They maybe complex run, but those are not scannable.
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Megadon
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Posted - 2005.11.09 21:12:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Originally by: Dr jekyII
i thought piracy was shoot and ransom,loot anyone in a ship.wether he/she in empire or 0.
what kinda true piracy you talking about..sec hit and stuff?
0.0 is lawless, you can't commit a crime and be a pirate if there is no law. Hence, unless you are blinking, you are no just trying to
That's a really dumb and erroneous argument. It's piracy because it is against the will of whom you are ransoming/extorting/killing/looting, not because it's against the "law".
Ganking/killing randomly in empire doesn't "make" you a pirate because it is illegal in empire, it makes you a pirate because your are doing it for profit. If you are just ganking/killing and not doing it for profit, you are not a pirate, you are just a ganker.
The operant word of pirating is to "plunder" and to "prey upon others" not whether it is "legal" or "illegal".
There are so many pirate wannabe's that just randomly gank and call themselves pirates. That ain't pirating.
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.11.09 22:46:00 -
[80]
wrong. pirates are people without "blue" list of people not to shoot at(that really definses them more than anything). Pirates want your modules. I could sit around and play games with ransom but that just puts me behind schedule and frankly directness is a admirable quality in my book. Thus, I blow your ship up and your modules are mine. Again, I AM a pirate. That you got "ganked" just means to me that I brought more to the table than you had and you want to sort out your inadequancy in that regard by classify me as a "ganker" versus a pirate. Next time, for your sake, you'll need to know more about where I am and what I have to kill you than what I know about you in those same categories. Otherwise, I'll take your modules again.
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Megadon
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Posted - 2005.11.09 22:53:00 -
[81]
Edited by: Megadon on 09/11/2005 22:55:29
Originally by: Cummilla
wrong. pirates are people without "blue" list of people not to shoot at(that really definses them more than anything). Pirates want your modules. I could sit around and play games with ransom but that just puts me behind schedule and frankly directness is a admirable quality in my book. Thus, I blow your ship up and your modules are mine. Again, I AM a pirate. That you got "ganked" just means to me that I brought more to the table than you had and you want to sort out your inadequancy in that regard by classify me as a "ganker" versus a pirate. Next time, for your sake, you'll need to know more about where I am and what I have to kill you than what I know about you in those same categories. Otherwise, I'll take your modules again.
What do you mean wrong? You really didn't read what i said.
Try again.
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.11.09 22:59:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Megadon
Edited by: Megadon on 09/11/2005 22:55:29
Originally by: Cummilla
wrong. pirates are people without "blue" list of people not to shoot at(that really definses them more than anything). Pirates want your modules. I could sit around and play games with ransom but that just puts me behind schedule and frankly directness is a admirable quality in my book. Thus, I blow your ship up and your modules are mine. Again, I AM a pirate. That you got "ganked" just means to me that I brought more to the table than you had and you want to sort out your inadequancy in that regard by classify me as a "ganker" versus a pirate. Next time, for your sake, you'll need to know more about where I am and what I have to kill you than what I know about you in those same categories. Otherwise, I'll take your modules again.
What do you mean wrong? You really didn't read what i said.
Try again.
Sorry about that. Missed a couple words. Was something you often here on Eve O in that people who destroy ships versus ransoming aren't pirates. You are correct, the profit motive distinguishes the pirate.......
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Megadon
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Posted - 2005.11.09 23:05:00 -
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Nicholai Pestot
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Posted - 2005.11.09 23:38:00 -
[84]
I don't know, it may just be the area im in but i easly catch 2 or 3 people within the 2 hours i can spend playing each night making an average of around 7 million per catch.21 million a night may not be much, but its earned from 2 hours of thinking and having fun, not staring at a roid/gate/npc all night repeating your actions untill it all looses meaning.
The uncertanty of lowsec PvP and pushing of my ships limits are what i play for now (can i take that NPC hunting ferox,moa and ospry out with my thorax...lets find out..), the money tends to just build up in a stockpile to do soemthing with at a later date  .
I believe the key is roaming over a far enough area for your raids to be infrequent against any one group.
As long as no-one fears you enough to add you to their addressbook and you know a system well, you can often get in and narrow someones position down before they realise you are there, do a show info and warn their friends.
The most imporant thing is to be creative and take advantage of stupid or lazey prey and intersperse this with attacking things you really shouldnt be able to take down
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Thomas Torquemada
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Posted - 2005.11.09 23:56:00 -
[85]
Catchign prey is the problem, more people do agent missions these days than mining, its just way way more profitable.
UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace?
Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide!
Peace My Brothers... |
Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2005.11.10 00:13:00 -
[86]
Originally by: albert camus
Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Originally by: Necrologic
I'll continue making a profit doing belt piracy.
Your name also doesn't appear on the top of local.
You think your name is bad I am 90% of the time always at the TOP of the local list
shut up i made you!
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
In short:
Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
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Ginger Magician
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Posted - 2005.11.10 02:16:00 -
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dionysus is correct.Belt piracy in empire is quite impossible if u got a name.As soon as i enter a local in my region every single person in that local immediately warps to safe spot or insta dock to station.Your chance of catching them is zero.
I quite like tanking the sentries anyway but the trouble is the timer.4 kills per hour is not enough for me even if they r battleships as u can never guarantee good loot even from bs kills.
"Ginger Magician is just infamous. I've met more people ingame that have talked about him, than anyone else in Eve." |
Altai Saker
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Posted - 2005.11.10 07:03:00 -
[88]
looks like crappy pvpers will need to learn how to use the scanner?
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Nicholai Pestot
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Posted - 2005.11.10 08:13:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Altai Saker
looks like crappy pvpers will need to learn how to use the scanner?
Aye and those with good scanner skills but a poor name should adopt a tackler newbie and teach him to use a scanner.
Wait outside system on gate, send in said newbie to catch for you.
Just having a low sec status will still not be enough to drive away all the folks in local (if it was i wouldn't be so successfull) so as long as the newbie learns the value of STFU the kills should still be linked to you (USE your infamy), letting the tackler newbie stay in his role till his skills improve enough for him to fill another role.Then you to replace him with another tackler newbie.
I have never had to go down this route, as my name is not linked to piracy, but i have seen other more famous names use a method like this.
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Alexander Kiernov
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Posted - 2005.11.11 04:21:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Originally by: Psycarne
I have made 100's of millions from pirating in belts,
May I ask where you pirate, because everyone in low security Amarr region just goes and insta docks as soon as you appear on local. I honestly think a lot of it also has do to with your characters name. I of course would usually appear on the more notiacable top while you would be more hidden.
Immediate local has to go.
I feel your pain on the nick part, as mine starts with A... If i only had known...!
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Sarah Kunni
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Posted - 2005.11.11 10:26:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Sarah Kunni on 11/11/2005 10:27:29
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Fuzzina Finzirak
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Posted - 2005.11.14 10:59:00 -
[92]
Psycarne is known to make false claims....take his claims of making vast profits from belt pirating with a grain of salt, i'm sure he makes some cash, he's not totally useless...but i do recall about 3 weeks ago he tried to pirate my Ferox (my character is something like 2.5 Months old now, so about 2 months at the time). I locked him up, webbed him and blew half his hull off before he warped out and insta docked.
I then posted a warning in local about 5 minutes later warning everyone that he was pirating in the area. He posts a response in local laughing at me saying he just blew up some guys Ferox 5 minutes ago....
Heh, yea, he's a real cute one...but not very truthful. He was flying a rifter tho so he aint lying about that.
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Xendie
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Posted - 2005.11.14 23:04:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Fuzzina Finzirak
Psycarne is known to make false claims....take his claims of making vast profits from belt pirating with a grain of salt, i'm sure he makes some cash, he's not totally useless...but i do recall about 3 weeks ago he tried to pirate my Ferox (my character is something like 2.5 Months old now, so about 2 months at the time). I locked him up, webbed him and blew half his hull off before he warped out and insta docked.
I then posted a warning in local about 5 minutes later warning everyone that he was pirating in the area. He posts a response in local laughing at me saying he just blew up some guys Ferox 5 minutes ago....
Heh, yea, he's a real cute one...but not very truthful. He was flying a rifter tho so he aint lying about that.
lol, bitter?
first though i might tell you that a rifter is a frigate and you were flying a battlecruiser.
sometimes that equation doesnt work out to the better but you would be amazed how many times it does.
ill make sure i help Psy next time we see you in local and blow you away with a battleship instead and then smartbomb your pod to get you out of local.
as for saying he make false claims thats low.
i could post a link to the killboard with all his solokills in his rifter but that would be against the forum rules so i suggest you ask Psycarne for the url ingame.
until then i suggest you stop flapping your gums about things you obviously havent got a clue about.
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Originally by: F'nog
This would be great, because lag is not at all a problem currently.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.11.15 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Azaeren
Eh
Ill be using the same ol' 650mm or 800mm T2 autocannons while i tank the sentrys:) nothing like a wonderfully profitable 250m+ isk a week:)
please. Continue to fly through lowsec with your iterion5 loaded to the gills with t2 items and other expensive nonsense:D
Thats darn impressive. Do 800mm autocannons hit from 150km away? Thats where I last saw you in relation to a gate
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Psycarne
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Posted - 2005.11.15 00:46:00 -
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Ok... I have to make a confession. One time I couldn't kill a ferox in my rifter.
I know, I know it sounds ridiculous. Tech I frigates can magically kill battlecruisers 100% of the time no matter what their setup, so clearly I am quite incapable of playing this game. Obviously, I will be resigning as a pirate, and will undergo 4 months of self flogging.
Thank you for your time.
Erm... facetiousness aside, your post dosen't actually make any sense Fuzzina Finzirak, why the hell would I have attempted to insta dock in my rifter when I was flagged? Sentry tanking in a rifter tends to be a bad idea.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2005.11.15 01:23:00 -
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I notice its mainly "look at me forum *****s" who have a problem with the local thing
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FoRGyL
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Posted - 2005.11.15 07:14:00 -
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Edited by: FoRGyL on 15/11/2005 07:16:41
A WCS and these changes might be good for Lowsec community!
The spread safty amoung the community might get them out here!
So skill up get safe get hard and get out in lowsec
I know u love birds feeling small pasing a gate that
leads to a black hole ..come fish with me!
On the other hand kill missions might get that boost they really don't need with this changes 
Please send all HILV agents to lowsec please, carrier, mining and R&D agents can stay in safespace!
Exodus anyone?
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Blitz Hacker
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Posted - 2005.11.16 03:42:00 -
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If you think there are no pirates in .0 .. come visit 7q.. give you .. mebbie 30 secs .. max.
.. There are 'plenty' of pirates in .0 .. I would say almost all are either pirates; or trigger happy mercs. Imperal 'rats' aren't pirates; your just wanna be noobs.
Play hard or go home.
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Originally by: Azaeren
there is no piracy in .0, so please dont confuse "surprise PVP" with empire "true" piracy.
.0 doesnt have any laws, so you cant possibly be a pirate.
but yes, Dio, we will just have to continue gateganking:D its far more effective then sniping to be honest.
also, im feeling interceptor/assfrig attacking complex action sometime soon :)
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