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George Soros	Posted - 2005.11.09 00:26:00 - [91] Hmmm... 70,000 * 8.99 = ~Ç630,000/30/24 = Ç875/hour These idiots should be required to pay Ç875 for each hour that we're all offline and that gametime returned to us free of charge. Why destroy others' enjoyment - there must be better things to hack... ------
ob1 z	Posted - 2005.11.09 00:27:00 - [92] I agree
Simus Marcus	Posted - 2005.11.09 00:28:00 - [93] Originally by: Tide Oden Well, geographic concurrency is always the weak spot in any MMO. Despite instancing and redundant systems, most MMOs have to map virtual space to specific zone servers at some point in their setup. EQ, DOAC, WOW, SWG, RO, GW, Eve, and so on all have this technology. Its kinda the defacto backbone of any MMORPG. Guild Wars is the only MMO I've ever seen that is really resistant to high concentrations of players/player-owned objects. It doesn't solve the problem, but side-steps it via a dynamic instancing and zone-server allocation system. The rest have to handle it in the normal fashion - beefy hardware , selective instancing, and in-game pressures to make players spread out. Obviously such methods can be defeated as they rely on cleverness rather than absolute barriers. For example - a game designer could simply set caps on the density of renderable objects per virtual zone. This would enforce a maximum level of load on any given zone server. However, that would suck. How well would the game work if players couldn't enter a given zone due to too many objects/people already being in it? Or not be able to create any new virtual objects in a given space due to the cap having been hit? The reason that companies use multiple servers is because the power of any one server cannot scale with its load as it is a finite amount. Thus clusters and arrays of servers are used so that processing can take place in parallel and can scale with demand. This type of processing is still limited however by the need for servers to communicate with each other. If 2 servers are assigned one zone, then each server has to share its data with one other server to maintain consistancy. If 20 servers are managing a single zone, then each server has to match data with 19 other servers to maintain consistancy. So with 20 servers there's (19*19) 361 times as much cross-server communication taking place as there is with only 2 servers. See the lag yet? Its never as simple as - why didn't the company make sure this couldn't/wouldn't/didn't happen? There are limits on technology folks. Maybe its time they gave up the goal of all accts in one big universe and created a 2nd cluster .. whole new universe .. whole new economy .. Im sure most would stay due to time invested, but i been playin for a month and a half .. I'd jump to new cluster .. and less lag.
DjArachno	Posted - 2005.11.09 00:30:00 - [94] No matter what the cause of this is. I just hope i can get back in. And oh yes a refund for lost time would be nice. I'm deep in .0 and currently in a tight spot.
George Soros	Posted - 2005.11.09 00:31:00 - [95] Originally by: Simus Marcus Maybe its time they gave up the goal of all accts in one big universe and created a 2nd cluster .. whole new universe .. whole new economy .. Im sure most would stay due to time invested, but i been playin for a month and a half .. I'd jump to new cluster .. and less lag. Nah - I love the un-sharded nature of Eve - these problems are rare and PLAYER created.. ------
Betawolf	Posted - 2005.11.09 00:32:00 - [96] neither of my accounts have seen the light of day for 2 hours, WTF and these are my peek hours of business. TY CCP hope you fix soon damnit
Esturary	Posted - 2005.11.09 00:33:00 - [97] I'm in Texas and I've been cut off too. RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!!...!!!!!....!!!!! Please fix this asap. Actually I am a girl ty... http://stellasworld.net/siggallery
Angry Dryad	Posted - 2005.11.09 00:38:00 - [98] Like mine friend say - F.F.F. !!! ® Relax and w8. Haven't to do something ? I know good game - Soliter =)
Null Route	Posted - 2005.11.09 00:53:00 - [99] Originally by: Usku Ukusku Wow, you kids need to relax. Hoping to find some info, instead I see 30 kids screaming cause something broke. Fck guys, its not like some dude at CCP started smashing the servers with a hammer. Something went wrong. Server corruption, hardear failure, or maybe then janitor tripped a switch. Yea it sucks, yea its annoying. It certainly is the end of the world. Things'll get fixed. It takes time. Soon enough we'll all get our fix. ++ for rationality.
franny	Posted - 2005.11.09 00:55:00 - [100] I really must thank my manager tomorrow I was supposed to finish Gallente Cruiser 5 while this was going on, she asked me to work a double, so I took an extended lunch and ran out to do some chores(pay Phone bill, buy lunch, change skill in eve) so i'm at work, and not at home screaming

Scouting Alt	Posted - 2005.11.09 00:56:00 - [101] I am happy. My skills are still training. haha if yours are not!
Torgund	Posted - 2005.11.09 00:57:00 - [102] Originally by: Usku Ukusku Wow, you kids need to relax. Hoping to find some info, instead I see 30 kids screaming cause something broke. Fck guys, its not like some dude at CCP started smashing the servers with a hammer. Something went wrong. Server corruption, hardear failure, or maybe then janitor tripped a switch. Yea it sucks, yea its annoying. It certainly is the end of the world. Things'll get fixed. It takes time. Soon enough we'll all get our fix. null All well and good that you think this is true. I have tomorrow and the next day off, after having been working nearly 11-hour days for the last 5 days, and had really looked forward to playing tonight. Now, in addition to not playing just now, I'm honestly wondering if I'll be able to play tomorrow or the next day...
Esturary	Posted - 2005.11.09 00:58:00 - [103] Originally by: cycosis Originally by: Esturary I'm in Texas and I've been cut off too. RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!!...!!!!!....!!!!! Please fix this asap. Nice sigs. You make them? Why yes I do! But i won't be able to make any more until next week...my computer is in route to my new home Actually I am a girl ty... http://stellasworld.net/siggallery
Moss Rose	Posted - 2005.11.09 00:59:00 - [104] I think we deserved some explanation from the CCP , just a post from those Admins or GMs , luckily I'm having skill running :p
Shmehh	Posted - 2005.11.09 01:00:00 - [105] Yay! I must say, those 3 hours of downtime last night (downtime is at 1am-2am here in the middle of the pacific) and then following it up with mass downage during the day is really cool of them. i'm so psyched about the downtime, i wanna petition to add more hours of downtime every day!!! /sarcasm really, though, the extended downtime last night was a pain in the ass. and then they give us this. I would like to believe the 4S whoever-they-are had a hand in the downtime, so i could avoid thinking that its CCP's fault. ...but if you think about it... a GM in WoW, i know for sure, can alter anything he/she feels needs to be altered in any way, shape, or form. and its not hard to do, either. just a simple command. now, if hundred upon hundreds of shuttles were the problem, we would have maybe at most two GM's in there sweeping up the mess in no time. so i do think its more than just the 4S dudes crashing the server. either i spent the last hour reading threads incorrectly, or i'm just an incompetent fool.
Maxx Force	Posted - 2005.11.09 01:04:00 - [106] hmmm maybe if they restarted the hole server everything would be fixed but hey im no gm or ccp so what do i know?
Gyakuto	Posted - 2005.11.09 01:07:00 - [107] I dont know what it is but EVE GM's dont seem too dedicated to the community... If they would just tell whats going on, and/or how long its going to take would help allot of people... And making a skill queue system would be nice too cause this is a waste of time... And Time is Money especially in this game...
Moss Rose	Posted - 2005.11.09 01:08:00 - [108] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=245274 I though I found it ...
Nexus1972	Posted - 2005.11.09 01:08:00 - [109] Originally by: Usku Ukusku Fck guys, its not like some dude at CCP started smashing the servers with a hammer. Well IMO, they did - only the virtual hammer of yet another un-tested network code upgrade which hapenned today. Its no co-incidence that virtually every patch over the last 7 months has introduced yet more instability. If I were them I'd concentrate on fixing bugs before releasing new content ffs. I mean, my security level can be 3 different values depending on where i view it from (character sheet, login screen or right click in a chat window on my character) - in normal sensible coding, there would be one routine to return the sec level for a player, not three - its just plain sloppy coding.
Gyakuto	Posted - 2005.11.09 01:11:00 - [110] Originally by: Moss Rose http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=245274 I though I found it ... That was yesterday...

Shmehh	Posted - 2005.11.09 01:13:00 - [111] Originally by: Gyakuto I dont know what it is but EVE GM's dont seem too dedicated to the community... If they would just tell whats going on, and/or how long its going to take would help allot of people... And making a skill queue system would be nice too cause this is a waste of time... And Time is Money especially in this game... A skill queue system! signed, and passed.
franny	Posted - 2005.11.09 01:19:00 - [112] Originally by: Shmehh Originally by: Gyakuto I dont know what it is but EVE GM's dont seem too dedicated to the community... If they would just tell whats going on, and/or how long its going to take would help allot of people... And making a skill queue system would be nice too cause this is a waste of time... And Time is Money especially in this game... A skill queue system! signed, and passed. they impliment it, I queue up about 2 yrs worth of skills ASAP
Erin El	Posted - 2005.11.09 01:20:00 - [113] Just got this when trying to login Quote: Starting up...(293 sec.), soon maybe...
Gyakuto	Posted - 2005.11.09 01:22:00 - [114] Originally by: franny Originally by: Shmehh Originally by: Gyakuto I dont know what it is but EVE GM's dont seem too dedicated to the community... If they would just tell whats going on, and/or how long its going to take would help allot of people... And making a skill queue system would be nice too cause this is a waste of time... And Time is Money especially in this game... A skill queue system! signed, and passed. they impliment it, I queue up about 2 yrs worth of skills ASAP Nah I mean like that you can queue up to 3 skills... Cause people do have lives, like going on vacation for some days or weeks... It would be a waste of time... But if they wouldnt implent it I would surely know the reason. Cause the skill learning is based on time... And time is money, wich CCP knows... Its easy earned money if you ask me...
Zabulon	Posted - 2005.11.09 01:22:00 - [115] Server is starting in 150 seconds! w00t
Kreegor	Posted - 2005.11.09 01:38:00 - [116] Edited by: Kreegor on 09/11/2005 01:39:46 N/A its fixed now thought i was havin server trouble again after reboot.
Brother Benthor	Posted - 2005.11.09 02:08:00 - [117] I DON't BELIEVE THIS... i just found my Tech 3 Sharizard and i get blowen to pieces when i was hauling it back to HQ :S ... what the hell is wrong with u CCP ppl?? :P
iamme	Posted - 2006.06.10 23:14:00 - [118] Still down for me........... I started another thread which I will now delete. ___________________________________________________________ Well I can't think of anything nice to say so I'll just say nothing at all!
iamme	Posted - 2006.06.11 16:04:00 - [119] CCP WHY IS THE SERVER STILL CLOSED I still cant log in!!!!! Whats up ???? Well I can't think of anything nice to say so I'll just say nothing at all!
Mala Kai	Posted - 2006.06.11 19:51:00 - [120] Been getting thrown off all day, but I think the problem is on my side.. My TS crashes at the same time..



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