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Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2013.06.09 22:18:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Owena Owoked wrote:But yeah, if you think that your thumb is every bit as accurate as your entire arm plus all of your hand and finger stabilizer muscles Owena Owoked was misquoted in your post and you expect people to take you seriously?
Also, I have 16 gig of RAM in my gaming PC and I'll tell you what, it is a waste to have that much RAM for gaming. You will never use it. Also, look at the specs for the new PS4 and XBOX 1. They basically are computers.
And to your point about auto-aim. Console games didn't always have auto-aim. Games like RS3 and GR/GR:IT never had auto aim and they had millions of copies sold and huge competitive gaming scenes.
Also, you can mod the controller for more speed and accuracy. There are even dedicated sites setup where you can purchase your own modded controller from $50 and up.
But like I said earlier, just because you are biased towards KB/M does not mean controller is any less viable as a control scheme. It is just what you prefer. Preference is not proof of fact and there are people out there that will use a controller over your KB/M and destroy you in a FPS without the need of auto aim. Hell I play BF3 almost exclusively now with my 360 controller plugged into my PC and I still get top 5 on my team just about every match. Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought. |
Kiblete
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.09 22:22:00 -
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Djana Libra wrote:Malak Dawnfire wrote:ACE McFACE wrote:Well SOE does stand for Sony Online Entertainment. The Playstation is made by Sony.
Makes sense to me. They who murdered Galaxies. Never forget. Never forgive.
The NGE was Lucasarts, blame them.
Is the Emu still going? |
Praeduran Taiadriius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.09 22:27:00 -
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It would have been a better idea for CCP to wait a short time to port DUST to the PS4 for another game at launch rather then that of releasing during the end of the PS3's life. Regardless of what system, PS4 is not backwards compatible which is a major problem for the life span of dust514 because the PS4 is soon to launch |
Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2013.06.09 22:35:00 -
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Praeduran Taiadriius wrote:It would have been a better idea for CCP to wait a short time to port DUST to the PS4 for another game at launch rather then that of releasing during the end of the PS3's life. Regardless of what system, PS4 is not backwards compatible which is a major problem for the life span of dust514 because the PS4 is soon to launch PS4 is not backwards compatible because they want to sell you PS3 games as DLC on PS4. Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought. |
Malak Dawnfire
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
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Posted - 2013.06.09 22:39:00 -
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Kiblete wrote:Djana Libra wrote:Malak Dawnfire wrote:ACE McFACE wrote:Well SOE does stand for Sony Online Entertainment. The Playstation is made by Sony.
Makes sense to me. They who murdered Galaxies. Never forget. Never forgive. The NGE was Lucasarts, blame them. Is the Emu still going?
Yup. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
807
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Posted - 2013.06.09 22:57:00 -
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Console games evolved a lot since their beginning, have more in common with PC games than the old console ones except for controls but they're getting to the point your console soon enough is nothing else but another computer, less powerful or versatile.
This said, leads me to Dust514 and Eve. Eve is not dieing, we can agree it's rather an old system even CCP have hard time to recode without introducing new bugs and brake what was fine. Dust will not die neither but in order for it to survive as long as Eve we can expect a PC version out one day or another that WILL be far more successful than the console version.
Planetside2 is quite awesome, spandex and hysteric Max's erryday. Dust? -I don't know and don't want to know, I don't play console games and not ready to buy one to do the same thing I can do with my computer but worst.
And lol for the 80's comment above, tell us all about it. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
807
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Posted - 2013.06.09 23:13:00 -
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Praeduran Taiadriius wrote:It would have been a better idea for CCP to wait a short time to port DUST to the PS4 for another game at launch rather then that of releasing during the end of the PS3's life. Regardless of what system, PS4 is not backwards compatible which is a major problem for the life span of dust514 because the PS4 is soon to launch
Dude CCP can't put a Directx11 option client already because of greedy. XP OS not even updated anymore by the editor who doesn't even want to listen talking about anymore, they moved forward for more interesting stuff which is good.
In a year or two PS5 will be out, games will become again incompatible with new stuff and yada ya, idiots will continue to buy that crap because it's fashion yada ya and the circle goes on and on. Makes me think about Apple and the latest news, you know people who want to get the cake eat it and pound the cooker on the couch, this always finishes ugly one day or another. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4175
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Posted - 2013.06.10 00:30:00 -
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Digital Messiah wrote:Just because my view point and opinion goes this way doesn't mean I dislike CCP as a developer. I, like others, see it as a mistake and I'll be around to enjoy other products they develop in the future.
I am often VERY critic about CCPs works and for a simple reason.
They had a vast and bold vision, ALIEN TALENT, the Zuckerberg / Steve Jobs kind of talent... they really had it... but back in 2000.
True, they delivered some nasty spaghetti code and similar but EvE was born of genius.
Then those guys retired or got promoted to high ranks and they started hiring "regular guys". Regular designers, regular programmers... and year after year, EvE became more and more of a better coded game but by people who don't have the ALIEN TALENT and thus we witness for these "okay" patches or even some atrocious garbage like the "launcher".
The new titles are not made by ALIEN TALENT programmers and designers. Therefore they born lackluster if not somewhat dated and boring.
CCP have to find the ancient glories kind of people again, because EvE cannot alone carry CCP over forever and on inertia. After all EvE's being over-dumbed down and ruined as we speak, sooner or later the ancient playerbase at the root of every MMO players retention will start losing people to turnover and just to seeing the game made a shadow of itself.
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Black Dranzer
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Posted - 2013.06.10 01:31:00 -
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CCP chose the PS3 for a specific reason; Because they didn't want to compete with their own playerbase. It's fair to assume that PS3 FPS Dudebros are not Eve's target audience. In that, it was a good idea; They were reaching out for a new market. The idea was that they'd unite two playerbases in one universe. Vastly different cultures uniting together. It's a beautiful vision.
Unfortunately, it's flawed for one fundamental reason: MMOs have a much longer lifespan than consoles.
Ultima Online has been kicking around for what, 16 years? Some older MUDS have been going on for decades. Consoles, on the other hand, get discarded every 5 years or so. Their technology rapidly and chaotically changes. Backwards compatibility is a luxury. Games released for consoles are stuck in a technological timewarp; They don't really have room to grow. None of these things mesh well with MMOs. In fact, they clash horribly.
I'm not sure what the deal was. I remember the first question upon the announcement of DUST was "But what happens with the PS3 dies?", and the only answer was a sort of awkward "we'll see when we get there". Maybe they predicted a bigger adaption rate and massive incomes which would fund further development. Maybe they expected the current generation of consoles to last longer, or for DUST to take less time to develop than it did. They couldn't have failed to predict this. Somebody in CCP must have asked these questions. What was the answer? We know what the vision was, but what was the plan?
DUST's best bet is to abandon the PS3 and become a purely PC FPS, assuming licensing deals with Sony haven't made this practically impossible. There'd be some overlap with the Eve market, but DUST strikes me as more of a PC Shooter kind of game anyway.
But sadly, I fear they're locked into contractual obligations with Sony, that they know the current situation is bad, but that there's nothing they can practically do about it. So they keep moving forward.
God speed, CCP. |
dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep Nyratic
354
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Posted - 2013.06.10 04:03:00 -
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Noooo Noooooo NOOOOOOOOO wrote:Planetside is the most direct competitor I could imagine. What is DUST's selling point when compared to Planetside 2? Literally the only thing is the connection to Eve, something that the average console player isn't going to care about. Bienator II: "You can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose." I play in highsec. |
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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
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Posted - 2013.06.10 04:05:00 -
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dark heartt wrote:Noooo Noooooo NOOOOOOOOO wrote:Planetside is the most direct competitor I could imagine. What is DUST's selling point when compared to Planetside 2? Literally the only thing is the connection to Eve, something that the average console player isn't going to care about.
And what many Eve players despite. Odd how very little is ever thought out.
The whole DUST concept and the Eve connection is something that sounds interesting on paper, but is terrible in practice. CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |
Flamespar
Woof Club
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Posted - 2013.06.10 04:12:00 -
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Looks like CCP need to hurry up and get their so called 'AAA shooter' up to scratch. There will be a number of free to play shooters that will be launching with the PS4 that are much more highly polished than dust. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Nariya Kentaya
Exclusion Cartel The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2013.06.10 04:32:00 -
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Malak Dawnfire wrote:Kiblete wrote:Djana Libra wrote:Malak Dawnfire wrote:ACE McFACE wrote:Well SOE does stand for Sony Online Entertainment. The Playstation is made by Sony.
Makes sense to me. They who murdered Galaxies. Never forget. Never forgive. The NGE was Lucasarts, blame them. Is the Emu still going? Yup. Always wanted to try the emo, but everytime i go to try i remember the only reason i played SWG was the same reason i play EVE, all the friends i had made that i could explore and **** around in a cantina with.
but yeah, came into SWg a month before CU, CU was tolerable, but i had to cry myself to sleep every night after NGE, ended up quitting a month ro two after the big protest in Theed where Admins teleported everyone to instadeath zones. |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
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Posted - 2013.06.10 05:08:00 -
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DRGaius Baltar wrote:Will this affect future development on the console platform?
I have always doubted Dust would do particularly well anyway. I love the idea of Dust, and the planning and thought behind it are fantastic, but ultimately it has become a pretty mediocre game and Planetside 2 will trample all over it.
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Prince Kobol
790
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Posted - 2013.06.10 07:00:00 -
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I will go against the grain here and I say I enjoy Dust :)
Yeah it has its faults (like every game) but it will be continued to be improved.
As for PS2.. downloaded for PC.. played, realised after 5 minutes that unless you use some kind of bot you don't stand a chance so download a bot, got banned.
Created new account.. had some fun, zerg, some more zerg, got banned. Repeat until get bored of zerg, un-installed a short time later.
I've started out playing FPS on the PC back with quake, quake2, Unreal, the days when when you wanted to play multi-player it involved actually moving your physical rig to some venue.
The reason I stopped and moved over to console was because I got sick of all the bots that were being used.
Not saying that they don't exist on consoles but they are far less prevalent then on PC. |
Andemnon Kohort
Protagonists Of Doom
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Posted - 2013.06.10 08:22:00 -
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Majindoom Shi wrote:Malak Dawnfire wrote:But who has a PS3? World Wide ps3 out sells xbox 360 even though xbox had a year head start on sales. So my guess is a fair amount of people have a ps3
North America, 44 million xbox 360's and 27 million PS3's worldwide, the overall sales are identical, the only reason for this, is because the PS3 was very popular in japan. vg chartz console sales worldwide |
Prince Kobol
791
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Posted - 2013.06.10 08:51:00 -
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Andemnon Kohort wrote:Majindoom Shi wrote:Malak Dawnfire wrote:But who has a PS3? World Wide ps3 out sells xbox 360 even though xbox had a year head start on sales. So my guess is a fair amount of people have a ps3 North America, 44 million xbox 360's and 27 million PS3's worldwide, the overall sales are identical, the only reason for this, is because the PS3 was very popular in japan. vg chartz console sales worldwide
No, one of the major reasons why the PS3 sold well is because when it was released it was the cheapest way to have a blu ray player |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3625
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Posted - 2013.06.10 08:51:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:The whole DUST concept and the Eve connection is something that sounds interesting on paper CCP, bringing you the best in ~~
Brooks Puuntai wrote: but is terrible in practice. Oh. I am a nullsec zealot. |
Prince Kobol
791
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Posted - 2013.06.10 09:00:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:The whole DUST concept and the Eve connection is something that sounds interesting on paper CCP, bringing you the best in ~~ Brooks Puuntai wrote: but is terrible in practice. Oh.
I wouldn't call it terrible. For me Dust is a game that needs a lot of polishing but you can see massive potential. It is much more involved and has much more scope and depth then any other FPS game.
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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
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Posted - 2013.06.10 09:37:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:The whole DUST concept and the Eve connection is something that sounds interesting on paper CCP, bringing you the best in ~~ Brooks Puuntai wrote: but is terrible in practice. Oh. I wouldn't call it terrible. For me Dust is a game that needs a lot of polishing but you can see massive potential. It is much more involved and has much more scope and depth then any other FPS game.
CCP isn't known for its ability to polish features. How long has DUST been indev and even basic combat control/movement is still very sluggish? I doubt console players have the same patience as Eve players have when it comes to waiting for improvements.
CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |
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Tub Chil
Last Men Standing
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Posted - 2013.06.10 10:04:00 -
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Dust is dying? |
Wodensun
ZeroSec
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Posted - 2013.06.10 11:04:00 -
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Malak Dawnfire wrote:How can you kill which had no life?
Southpark ftw Do not give me likes them 101 likes arent a accident... |
Hehaw Jimbojohnson
Frontier Explorer's League Sadistica Alliance
57
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Posted - 2013.06.10 21:45:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:The whole DUST concept and the Eve connection is something that sounds interesting on paper CCP, bringing you the best in ~~ Brooks Puuntai wrote: but is terrible in practice. Oh. I wouldn't call it terrible. For me Dust is a game that needs a lot of polishing but you can see massive potential. It is much more involved and has much more scope and depth then any other FPS game.
People really need to stop with this "potential" nonsense. Everywhere I the internet, I see DUST bashed for being a very mediocre game that doesn't live up to the hype in any way. Yet, there are always the guys basically saying "Yeah, the game sucks, but I'm gonna give it a 10 out of 10 cuz it has the POTENTIAL to be awesome!".
Yes, I was very excited for the DUST concept, but it's been in dev for what, 5 years? It also has had a basically open beta (buy in with a cheap merc pack for over a year) and the basic mechanics of the game are still mediocre to bad. This doesn't even count the fact that, feature wise, it is about as bare-bones as a FPS can get. If they haven't gotten anywhere close to right by now, it's gonna take another 5 years for them to possibly realize any "potential". CCP has also proven, time and time again, that they are horrible at releasing a barebones feature and later realizing its potential. 99% of the time, it is just left broken or reiterated and reiterated until it is even more broken.
I have the "potential" to win the lottery, but it's more likely I'll drown in a bucket somewhere along the line. The sad part about DUST is, even if it drowns in a bucket, it'll still likely be kept on life support by EVE's profits. It is painful to think how much of EVE's profits have been pissed away on the project already for the extremely mediocre product that officially launched a month ago. |
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