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Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.08 05:49:00 -
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I actually wouldn't mind giving DUST a try, but I'm not about to buy a console just for that. It does seem a bit of an odd decision, when designing a game that's presumably supposed to have an in-depth, lasting relationship with Eve, to develop it for a console. My impression (which could be wrong) is that the console playing demographic is much more likely to play something for a while, then move on to the next thing, not really sticking around with any single game on a long-term basis. I suppose that's partly to do with the fact that consoles have a limited lifespan whereas with a PC, you can just swap around some parts and keep going with the same platform. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
231
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Posted - 2013.06.08 06:03:00 -
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Barakkus wrote:The allowing of moderators to edit posts was a bad idea and put an end to pretty quickly. Gaige, if you didn't know was a moderator...Let me guess Mawie was editing your posts? lol...she was sort of a ***** anyways...
I'm not talking about editing posts, I'm talking about a moderator telling me what to post itself. PMing me about it.
Remember the booster club antics? Well, it extended to the forum and what players were posting.
It was b-a-d.
SOE didn't want to hear honest feedback. They wanted to dictate the feedback itself.
EQ2Flames had to exist to combat that amount of control of the "message". "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Domer Pyle
Northern Flemish Bastards Inc Yulai Federation
66
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Posted - 2013.06.08 06:11:00 -
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Lusty Wench wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Someone mentioned that Sony shot themselves in the foot about another MMO?
Ask us EQII and SWG players all about it!!! Planetside 1 BFR SWG the village..yeah ok, CU dont like but ok I'll live, NGE yeah go get ******.
RIP bridge battles :(
oh, but ReconDelta's nerdrage was hilarious to read after his precious bfrs got nerfed, lulz. "Imagine if the bars to your prison were all you had ever known. Then one day, someone appears and unlocks the door. If they have the power to do this, then are they really the liberator? You never remembered who it was that closed you in." - Ior Labron |
Solutio Letum
Terpene Conglomerate
124
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Posted - 2013.06.08 06:17:00 -
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Melvin Earl wrote:Thar Saal wrote:Melvin Earl wrote:Thar Saal wrote:Melvin Earl wrote:I am surprised many of you are shocked by this news. How many more FPS games move on to the greener pastures that is the console and controller before you accept that a FPS on the PC is a dead market? Arma3, battlefield, crysis, RO2/RS, TF, PS2, BlackLight, CS:GO and many more argue against the statement of any decay of pc fps or its market. Go look at FPS sales on a console versus a PC. Post your findings here. Posting sales figures wouldn't prove or negate my comments made. CoD selling double digit numbers on consoles doesn't suddenly mean pc developing studios jump boats for console exclusive markets. Their will always be a strong market for pc fps regardless of other hardware. I'd argue that instead of fps dying out on pc, more are being developed. I ask you to find hard evidence and you dismiss it declairing that your personal opinion is all that matters.
step 1: go to steam step 2: go to top sellers step 3: look at the top pages!
#3 saintrow pakage #5 saintrow #8 Arma 3!! #10 saint row again >.< #15 Arma 2!! #19 Metro last light...
okok i know it might surprise you but... FPS do sell, people like first person games.. or third person like saint row.. allo.... but mostly gun games.... i missed a few just go take a look....
eddit: i don't see any spaceship games in there....... :\ |
DRGaius Baltar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.06.08 06:45:00 -
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I would of like to see DUST as a single player/coop comparable to Borderlands on scale based on EVE lore...... |
DRGaius Baltar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.06.08 06:48:00 -
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Also, FFS targeting mechanics in Metal Gear Solid Sons of Liberty was more accurate than the current build in Dust |
Malak Dawnfire
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
238
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:24:00 -
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Lusty Wench wrote:Malak Dawnfire wrote:
At least we still have SWGEmu.
I haven't look at it in 'a very long time', have you tried it? Comp Mini Suits....man those were good times.
I still play it, have my Comp mini suit, using Carbineer at the moment.
Edit: As a SWG player, I'm obligated to link http://www.swgemu.com/forums/index.php
It's like old times, kinda. Work in progress but it's all we have. SOON. |
flakeys
Interstellar Corporation of Science and Technology Interstellar Confederation
1155
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:56:00 -
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Noooo Noooooo NOOOOOOOOO wrote:Planetside is the most direct competitor I could imagine. What is DUST's selling point when compared to Planetside 2?
I played planetside 1 and recently planetside 2 .. the moment dust was announced and some screens where released the first thing i thought was ' that's a planetside rip off' .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Chamile Eonic
The Church of MDAMC
2
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Posted - 2013.06.08 10:18:00 -
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Don't forget that Destiny is on its way too. With it being made by the same people who made Halo, its got good pedigree. All the talk seems to be around it being a MMOFPS on consoles only. It could eat another chunk of Dusts lunch.
To make matters worse, it seems CCP aren't learning. The New First person fighting game they showed at Fanfest. Who wants to guess that as dust gets wound down thats getting wound up. Tied into the Eve Universe in a totally pointless way, again. |
Lusty Wench
Nox Incurro
93
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Posted - 2013.06.08 17:24:00 -
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I've just *cough* 'found' my original SWG CDs.
I was TKM/Commando back in the day. + 12pt AS/WS
Looks like they've come along quite well since last I was there.
I don't even remember what we *did* back then, but it was never boring, I don't remember ever logging out because I had nothing to do.
I remember flamer throwering (it's a word) krayts looking for pearls.
Group grinding on Dant with a bunch of friends, and BHs rocking up when I was a fresh(ish) Jedi, it was my first PVP as a jedi, and you HAD to fight them because of skill loss. I remember owning those 2 bozos. |
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Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
74
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Posted - 2013.06.08 17:55:00 -
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Noooo Noooooo NOOOOOOOOO wrote:Planetside is the most direct competitor I could imagine. What is DUST's selling point when compared to Planetside 2?
Player agency and the meta-game. PS2 is just Battlefield in space, with really big maps.
I played it for a few days and then uninstalled it. Not because PS2 is bad - it's just meh. It's got nothing that other shooters don't already have. It's just scaled up a bit.
That said - PS2 beats Dust hands down in the handling department, and it's more immediately fun. If CCP can get their act together and fix the atrocious controls in Dust, and - FOR THE LOVE OF GOD - add some color (Seriously - hasn't anyone at CCP gotten the memo that grey and bland environments are stupid and annoying?), then I think Dust stands a chance, and will still be around for Planetside 14.
I wouldn't worry too much about Dust on the PS4 either. Officially, CCP isn't developing anything for the PS4, and the exclusivity for PS3 is set to expire soon. Ergo - slow death on PS3 or PC release. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
66
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Posted - 2013.06.08 18:21:00 -
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DRGaius Baltar wrote:ThisWill this affect future development on the console platform? any second thoughts with PC platform now?
thats not a headshot, thats the nail in the coffin. OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
59
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Posted - 2013.06.09 01:46:00 -
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I think it's funny that people still bring up the KB/M Vs. controller argument. One is not inherently better than the other, it is all about what you practice and play with that matters. Like a hockey player that has played with a right handed stick for all of his life, and then you handed him a left handed stick. He will not be as good left handed as he is right handed, but does that make one stick better than the other? Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought. |
Embarado
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.06.09 01:58:00 -
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Ohishi wrote:I think it's funny that people still bring up the KB/M Vs. controller argument. One is not inherently better than the other, it is all about what you practice and play with that matters.
Given the range of motion allowed by the mouse alone, not even considering the functional benefit of being many more keys at your other hand's disposal, this is demonstrably false. I have never seen a controller come close to the accuracy of a laser mouse, even optical for that matter.
But yeah, if you think that your thumb is every bit as accurate as your entire arm plus all of your hand and finger stabilizer muscles, then I have no idea what to tell you. Compare with games that don't aim for you and you should be able to tell the difference right away. "there is no old system anymore" -CCP BunnyVirus |
Bl4ck Ph03n1x
Gangsters And Gentlemen Silent Ascension
39
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Posted - 2013.06.09 04:18:00 -
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Soon on your devblogs: Dust porting to PC! That or...
If- WHEN dust will crash, CCP will have lost a major investment. That mean they will need a lot of money, fast. That mean Devs fired (it already happened massively with the nex events), microtransaction panic (NEED MONAY NAW), game simplification panic (NEED PLAYERZ NAW), and/or no expansion before a while, or a combination of the above.
I'm afraid. Some of these things are already happening. Some contents is not modified to make the universe better, but to please some parts of the population. Microtransactions are a past, and they could use the "ship skins" stuffs to sink a little more the sandbox without people complaining too much. Devs Fired? Already happend once, could happen again. Seen any true expansion these past years?
Well... Time to abandon ship? Star Citizen anyone?
Tl:dr CCP cannot afford to lose dust. They invested it the past years of devellopent that didn't go in EvE, and boatload of money. Losing it now would mean losing it all. And i don't believe the fps consoler will prefer the "better gameplay" of dust over the popularity of PS2. Brace yourself for WoW in space. Don't feed the trolls. |
Owena Owoked
Dedicated Individuals Committed to Killing
21
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Posted - 2013.06.09 04:44:00 -
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Embarado wrote:Ohishi wrote:I think it's funny that people still bring up the KB/M Vs. controller argument. One is not inherently better than the other, it is all about what you practice and play with that matters. Given the range of motion allowed by the mouse alone, not even considering the functional benefit of being many more keys at your other hand's disposal, this is demonstrably false. I have never seen a controller come close to the accuracy of a laser mouse, even optical for that matter. But yeah, if you think that your thumb is every bit as accurate as your entire arm plus all of your hand and finger stabilizer muscles, then I have no idea what to tell you. Compare with games that don't aim for you and you should be able to tell the difference right away. I do think my thumb is as accurate as everything you described, as when I first started playing FPS on the PC I used a trackball. I still think the trackball is far superior to the mouse, it is hard to find a new trackball I like though with the options that todays mice have packaged with them.
Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTyOXUNu824 |
Malak Dawnfire
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
244
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Posted - 2013.06.09 04:48:00 -
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Lusty Wench wrote:I've just *cough* 'found' my original SWG CDs.
I was TKM/Commando back in the day. + 12pt AS/WS
Looks like they've come along quite well since last I was there.
I don't even remember what we *did* back then, but it was never boring, I don't remember ever logging out because I had nothing to do.
I remember flamer throwering (it's a word) krayts looking for pearls.
Group grinding on Dant with a bunch of friends, and BHs rocking up when I was a fresh(ish) Jedi, it was my first PVP as a jedi, and you HAD to fight them because of skill loss. I remember owning those 2 bozos.
You should join back in! With Publish 3 (Whenever they release that on Bas) bases will finally be added and plenty more of the Points of Interest will be populated accordingly. Never a dull moment, I just hope they eventually bring back the TEF system, that was good fun. |
Lyza Kimbo
Cat Scratch Fever
19
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Posted - 2013.06.09 04:54:00 -
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Bl4ck Ph03n1x wrote: ... Brace yourself for WoW in space.
You say that like it was a bad thing
Just imagine the possumbilities-
Space Elves Space Trolls! Interstellar Halflings Sparkly Vacuum Vampires!
Oh, and the inevitable YouTube machinima music videos "I'm too sexy for my Naglfar, Too sexy for my Naglfar, Up in that wormhole, WAY far!" |
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra Gallente Federation
185
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Posted - 2013.06.09 11:08:00 -
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Lyza Kimbo wrote:Bl4ck Ph03n1x wrote: ... Brace yourself for WoW in space.
You say that like it was a bad thing Just imagine the possumbilities- Space Elves Space Trolls! Interstellar Halflings Sparkly Vacuum Vampires! Oh, and the inevitable YouTube machinima music videos "I'm too sexy for my Naglfar, Too sexy for my Naglfar, Up in that wormhole, WAY far!"
You forgot space pandas "You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |
fairimear
Air Initiative Mercenaries
2
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Posted - 2013.06.09 11:10:00 -
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who did not see this coming besides CCP?
and once again we see why ccp should done dust for pc or not at all |
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
245
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Posted - 2013.06.09 11:36:00 -
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Owena Owoked wrote:But yeah, if you think that your thumb is every bit as accurate as your entire arm plus all of your hand and finger stabilizer muscles
Doesn't matter how fast you are, you're still limited by the speed of your controls.
Console controls are not as agile as a laser mouse (and can't mod the USB controller for even more speed...computers you can).
Consoles are cheap for a reason. You compromise performance and modifications for $$$ saved.
A lot of voodoo is done to get games to perform similar to PCs (notice the gate animations and loss of control? That's the stuff done to make consoles play when it can't perform on par as a computer).
There's no substitute for a PC for FPS games. Let us know if the PS3 can perform as well as a quad SLI computer; 16GB of fast memory; and a processor that'll run circles around a console -- Hint: it can't it doesn't have the horsepower.
In BF3 do you know how they got the XBox and PS3 to work with PCs? Things like auto aiming, as they can't compete with PCs and their speed.
It's a joke about accuracy and speed to compare console performance against computers that regularly play FPS games. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Zane Lowe
Friendship is Podding Test Alliance Please Ignore
14
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Posted - 2013.06.09 11:50:00 -
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Mouse and keyboard is the "better" control system strictly speaking, but I prefer to play all video games with a controller. It just feels better.
I have no idea why the "premier" gaming device is a glorified typewriter. It breaks any kind of immersion I have in pretty much any game. |
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra Gallente Federation
185
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Posted - 2013.06.09 12:58:00 -
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Zane Lowe wrote:Mouse and keyboard is the "better" control system strictly speaking, but I prefer to play all video games with a controller. It just feels better.
I have no idea why the "premier" gaming device is a glorified typewriter. It breaks any kind of immersion I have in pretty much any game. How does it feel being stuck in the eighties? "You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |
Lyza Kimbo
Cat Scratch Fever
20
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Posted - 2013.06.09 18:43:00 -
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fairimear wrote:who did not see this coming besides CCP?
and once again we see why ccp should done dust for pc or not at all
QFT = quoted for truth
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
811
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Posted - 2013.06.09 18:49:00 -
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played a few planetside 2 games, was not impressed, uninstalled. Can't really see the point. now Dust on PC I'd actually play because of the Eve universe This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
C DeLeon
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
142
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Posted - 2013.06.09 18:56:00 -
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Making dust an important part of sov warfare and releasing it on pc would turn dust into a decent success because all those bittervets would play the crap out of it. PS2 was exciting for me for like 2 weeks but after that I was even too lazy to uninstall it. On the other hand I'm having fun with Dust althought it's still in the baby phase. |
Dorion Strag
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.09 19:15:00 -
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Did CCP not headshot DUST 514 when they made it a PS3 exclusive spinoff of a PC based game? |
Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research Epsilon Fleet
386
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Posted - 2013.06.09 19:42:00 -
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I was about to open OPs link, but it was the martini. Yeeeeeah, rather read the ingredients of shampoo. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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Djana Libra
The Black Ops S2N Citizens
238
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Posted - 2013.06.09 20:38:00 -
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Malak Dawnfire wrote:ACE McFACE wrote:Well SOE does stand for Sony Online Entertainment. The Playstation is made by Sony.
Makes sense to me. They who murdered Galaxies. Never forget.
Never forgive. |
Katia Pwomperson
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.09 21:48:00 -
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Malak Dawnfire wrote:How can you kill which had no life?
What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger. |
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