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Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:02:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:poepstreep66 wrote:I would say this idea should be a point of focus for the next expension. Pilots and corps have been wanting to "join" with pirate factions for years now. Pilots use to do it in the roleplaying kind of way. This however would be a great improvment. In the last 2 years I have made a number of threads encouraging this change to EVE. A combination of changing how sec status interacts with highsec to increase pirate vulnerability there relative to their sec status, opening up pirate stations in those lowsec systems that have no NPC stations currently, changing FW mechanics so that it's harder to farm and adding NPC patrols of either pirate or faction ships (relative to which faction 'owns' the system) would be four changes that together I think would be worthy of an expansion *especially* if these also coincided with pirate faction ship rebalancing.
very strong point yes and many have tried and i still try it aswell it would drag me into FW as soon as i can support my pirate faction of choice http://tnoh.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=576554
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Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.06.29 22:48:00 -
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bump http://tnoh.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=576554
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Aliventi
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2013.06.29 23:12:00 -
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I think this would be fantastic. It would be even better if they could actually seize the systems from the FW navies. Toss in some 3 way action and see where it goes. |

Silivar Karkun
Imperium Aeternam Phantom Armada
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Posted - 2013.06.29 23:40:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:I support this but ... also i would love to see more low sec. And part of this war to take also in low sec, not just null.
But this is absolutely one of best things (at least for me) that can happen to EvE. I would be loyal AS HELL Corpus or Centus Soldier !
Not sure about who would fight with who ... As far as i can tell you it would be Blood Raiders + Sansha vs Angel + Serpentis. I think Dread Guristas are more friends with Sansha/Blood Raiders than with Angel / Serpentis too. That could lead to some imbalance like 3 factions vs 2 . But in the end EVE is cruel world and is not meant to be FAIR ;).
i would say it could depend on the territory, for example, between Amarr and Caldari we could have war between the Guristas and the Blood Raiders, maybe make it a 3 way warzone, with the Sansha as a third enemy. so we would have 3 way warzones like this:
Amarr/Caldari : Guristas vs Blood Raiders vs Sansha's Nation
Caldari/Minmatar : Blood Raiders vs Angels vs Guristas
Gallente/Minmatar : Serpentis vs Blood Raiders vs Angels (Serpentis would be allied with the Angels by default of course)
Gallente/Amarr : Serpentis vs Blood Raiders vs Sansha's Nation
Amarr/Minmatar : Blood Raiders vs Angels vs Sansha's Nation
Caldari/Gallente: Serpentis vs Guristas vs Sansha's Nation
and in the places where the Sansha wouldnt appear by default, we could include as an event during incursions.
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Silivar Karkun
Imperium Aeternam Phantom Armada
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Posted - 2013.06.29 23:43:00 -
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as for the OP, how would this affect the Incursion Rewards?, i mean, would it be a way to get rare blueprints like for example, the Revenant? |

Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.06.30 09:57:00 -
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Silivar Karkun wrote:Naomi Anthar wrote:I support this but ... also i would love to see more low sec. And part of this war to take also in low sec, not just null.
But this is absolutely one of best things (at least for me) that can happen to EvE. I would be loyal AS HELL Corpus or Centus Soldier !
Not sure about who would fight with who ... As far as i can tell you it would be Blood Raiders + Sansha vs Angel + Serpentis. I think Dread Guristas are more friends with Sansha/Blood Raiders than with Angel / Serpentis too. That could lead to some imbalance like 3 factions vs 2 . But in the end EVE is cruel world and is not meant to be FAIR ;). i would say it could depend on the territory, for example, between Amarr and Caldari we could have war between the Guristas and the Blood Raiders, maybe make it a 3 way warzone, with the Sansha as a third enemy. so we would have 3 way warzones like this: Amarr/Caldari : Guristas vs Blood Raiders vs Sansha's Nation Caldari/Minmatar : Blood Raiders vs Angels vs Guristas vs Sansha's Nation ( 4 way warzone) Gallente/Minmatar : Serpentis vs Blood Raiders vs Angels (Serpentis would be allied with the Angels by default of course) Gallente/Amarr : Serpentis vs Blood Raiders vs Sansha's Nation Amarr/Minmatar : Blood Raiders vs Angels vs Sansha's Nation Caldari/Gallente: Serpentis vs Guristas vs Sansha's Nation
first of all if you follow the story line you will find some of the pirates are allies so the sum up is incorrect by storyline there will be enemy pirate factions that fight eachother ofcourse but this is not seperate from regular faction warfare they also fight against the empire factions and like the empires have allied with eachother like amarr/caldari and gallente/minmatar so do the pirate factions have their allies and enemies. the pirates though will have more enemies as the empires and some pirates are your targets.
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Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.06.30 10:08:00 -
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Silivar Karkun wrote:as for the OP, how would this affect the Incursion Rewards?, i mean, would it be a way to get rare blueprints like for example, the Revenant?
this is interesting i still hope ccp introduces angel and bloodraider incursions and so on more pirate factions do incursions. about rare blueprints there should be a balance mechanic for blueprints on this side of the yard.
as empire factions spam faction crap on the market the vallue drops. for some items it is nothing but normal though some items should keep the valluable price but this we have to thank to the greedy bears that farm.
one thing would be to introduce stronger enemy presence on npc level in a faction warfare site so it will be impossible for the afk frigate LP farmers to do them. with the pirates added to it that now have interest in staying in the site to conquer it on their behalf for LP. it will get way harder for the doucebags to gain the LP they now daily farm on afk mode and check back after 15 minutes and go to the next.
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Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.06.30 10:09:00 -
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Aliventi wrote:I think this would be fantastic. It would be even better if they could actually seize the systems from the FW navies. Toss in some 3 way action and see where it goes.
this is exactly what i am aiming for
2 dogs fighting for a bone the 3th one runs away with it. 
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Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.07.02 00:21:00 -
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bump http://tnoh.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=576554
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Naomi Anthar
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Posted - 2013.07.02 00:56:00 -
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only 19 likes for Pirate FW idea ? Screw you EvE community. |

Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.07.03 07:54:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:only 19 likes for Pirate FW idea ? Screw you EvE community.
me like does that count?  http://tnoh.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=576554
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Balthazar Lestrane
Happy Endings. The Retirement Club
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Posted - 2013.07.03 09:33:00 -
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Love bump, this is one of the best ideas I've seen in this section of the forums. +1 |

Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:48:00 -
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YARR! You may gain the knowledge, but you will lose your belief, with all its mystery and comfort. If there was proof, absolute and certain, there is an afterlife, why not quit this life, and be done with it? Ponder about these things all your life, and you're a philosopher. Compress these ponderings into a couple of pages, and you'll go mad. |

Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:56:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:only 19 likes for Pirate FW idea ? Screw you EvE community. 99% of Likes given on the EVE Online forums are in The Like And Get Likes thread in the Out Of Pod Experience board. You may gain the knowledge, but you will lose your belief, with all its mystery and comfort. If there was proof, absolute and certain, there is an afterlife, why not quit this life, and be done with it? Ponder about these things all your life, and you're a philosopher. Compress these ponderings into a couple of pages, and you'll go mad. |

Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:42:00 -
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that doesnt sound like a good thing to me really? http://tnoh.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=576554
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Grunnax Aurelius
luna Oscura Clandestina Armada The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:26:00 -
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I really want this thread to get stickied and i want to see CCP's opinion, like seriously, the idea is almost more perfect than Scarlett Johanssons T I T S!!! Two Teir Carriers-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=207604&find=unread |

Naomi Anthar
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:42:00 -
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It's so damn good idea, that i see no single argument against it tbh. Make it happen. Free bump |

Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.07.09 16:13:00 -
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well everyone help me promote this topic and bring it under dev eyes they must love it  http://tnoh.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=576554
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Alundil
Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:10:00 -
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Excellent idea. |

Grunnax Aurelius
luna Oscura Clandestina Armada The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.07.10 16:29:00 -
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BUMP!!! Two Teir Carriers-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=207604&find=unread |

Hogarth Starbanger
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
166
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Posted - 2013.07.11 21:03:00 -
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Bump
I'd absolutely love to be able to fly for the Cartel. |

Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.07.12 15:19:00 -
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Hogarth Starbanger wrote:Bump
I'd absolutely love to be able to fly for the Cartel.
we all do screaming for years no we need to attention wh.o.re it until a dev finally comes over the bridge http://tnoh.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=576554
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exceptino
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.13 12:47:00 -
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I don't think pirates should be in faction war but i believe that players should be able to join and fly for pirates corps. Think more of a jihad sort of game play. Pirate players join said faction, take missions to kill players of other factions for booty(akin to what a pirate would really do), Raid highsec in player supported incursions. What is a player run incursion you ask. Well it is a incursion that pirate players can go in and fight along side the regular rats without any repercussions from concord. These raids act as a normal incursion except the addition of players with the normal rats. Objective is as long as players keep the bar on the rats side, the incursion stays, think beachhead. The slaughter would be glorious, tears would flow when pirates start to hold highsec for periods of time. How would a -10 pirate get there, easy wormhole like sansha already do. Players would have to turn to powerful allies to help fight them off. The blood would stain the stars. Make rewards for players be worth the effort but not to great that pirate ships become the next isk sink. They could limit the rewards to implants like the concord incursions do. In lowsec they could take space the same way the fw pilots do but i believe that would bore the type off player that wants to be a pirate. Plus a pirate is abut raids not holding space if you want that join regular fw. |

Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.07.14 09:14:00 -
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exceptino wrote:I don't think pirates should be in faction war but i believe that players should be able to join and fly for pirates corps. Think more of a jihad sort of game play. Pirate players join said faction, take missions to kill players of other factions for booty(akin to what a pirate would really do), Raid highsec in player supported incursions. What is a player run incursion you ask. Well it is a incursion that pirate players can go in and fight along side the regular rats without any repercussions from concord. These raids act as a normal incursion except the addition of players with the normal rats. Objective is as long as players keep the bar on the rats side, the incursion stays, think beachhead. The slaughter would be glorious, tears would flow when pirates start to hold highsec for periods of time. How would a -10 pirate get there, easy wormhole like sansha already do. Players would have to turn to powerful allies to help fight them off. The blood would stain the stars. Make rewards for players be worth the effort but not to great that pirate ships become the next isk sink. They could limit the rewards to implants like the concord incursions do. In lowsec they could take space the same way the fw pilots do but i believe that would bore the type off player that wants to be a pirate. Plus a pirate is abut raids not holding space if you want that join regular fw.
just read the post twice as it doesnt make any sence you say this then that, as saying that they dont belong in FW space and a few lines ahead saying they are able to take FW space seriously yo udotn make any sence at all
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exceptino
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.14 12:19:00 -
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if you read the end it states, that the type of pilot who wants to fly for the pirates probably wouldn't want to own space. I added the ability just as a after thought. In hind sight i should not of added it at all. The ability to invade and hold high sec hostage, even for a short time, would be enough to make this game play fun. Also it goes more with what pirates would actually want to do. To add pirates to the FW mechanic would just not make sense. Now taking missions to disrupt faction war, that sounds like a pirate thing to do. missions could be to kill so many pilots, collect so many frozen corpses, Raid I-hub bashes and such. |

Grunnax Aurelius
luna Oscura Clandestina Armada The Nightingales of Hades
161
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Posted - 2013.07.15 17:00:00 -
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exceptino wrote:if you read the end it states, that the type of pilot who wants to fly for the pirates probably wouldn't want to own space. I added the ability just as a after thought. In hind sight i should not of added it at all. The ability to invade and hold high sec hostage, even for a short time, would be enough to make this game play fun. Also it goes more with what pirates would actually want to do. To add pirates to the FW mechanic would just not make sense. Now taking missions to disrupt faction war, that sounds like a pirate thing to do. missions could be to kill so many pilots, collect so many frozen corpses, Raid I-hub bashes and such.
Get off the trial account and respond with a subscribed account or most people wont ever take your posts seriously :D Two Teir Carriers-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=207604&find=unread |

Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.07.19 22:42:00 -
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bumpageddon http://tnoh.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=576554
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Bakuhz
The Horny Heron's
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:40:00 -
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working all the seperate parts out and will post it combined and formed after the weekend anyone have some idea's still put them in a post here on monday i will start gathering all the info and make it a new full report. http://tnoh.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=576554
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Leslie Chow
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
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Posted - 2013.07.25 01:43:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Pirate FacWar sounds keen, but it's going to be a 0.0 thing, and joining a pirate faction is going to have to have to some pretty horrible consequences for your empire and CONCORD standings.
Am I seriously the only one that noticed this post. What do you know that you're not telling us? :) |

Bakuhz
The Horny Heron's Space Immigration
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Posted - 2013.08.06 00:14:00 -
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Leslie Chow wrote:Malcanis wrote:Pirate FacWar sounds keen, but it's going to be a 0.0 thing, and joining a pirate faction is going to have to have to some pretty horrible consequences for your empire and CONCORD standings. Am I seriously the only one that noticed this post. What do you know that you're not telling us? :)
it should be a low-sec thing really as i itended in the plan that agents ae in 0.0 for missions is just cool to have
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