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Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.06.14 12:00:00 -
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To start we are missing Pirate Faction Warfare in the game!
We have quite alot of Pirate Faction sympathizers in eve wich is something that adds some juice to the game. This would be great if we can really work under the flag of such an entity like currently you can be in the navy. Ofcourse this comes with positive and negative effects.
Example always have Outlaw status Hi-Sec NPC and Capsuleers Will be able to hunt you down even with possitive security standings. Only Able to go into Hi-Sec by buying a Pardon Letter in a Low or 0.0 border to Hi-Sec in the stations wich will cost you a Considerate amount of ISK. and LP and it wil lbe for 24 hours only. Ganking will Take away the Pardon letter and concord, navy and capsuleers alike will see you become flashy red right away. to counter the negative standing pilots to be able to go to high sec unpunished and gank something juicy the pardon should be not to cheap.
example 1 x 24H pardon will cost 50.000.000 ISK and 50.000 LP. it will be allowed to stack them so you can add multiple day's
Breaking Rules of Engagement set by pardon letter will get you a fine with the next formula:
Destroyed Ship + Modules + Rigs / 100 x 80 = Fine
example: Cruiser 9.000.000 isk Rigs 12.000.000 isk Modules 18.000.000 isk -------------------------- + Total 39.000.000 / 100 = 390.000 x 80 = 31.200.000 Isk wich is 80% of the original vallue
This fine will be taken by Concord and you will be Concorded. also you lose the remaining Pardon letter time also the stacked letter's This way you the only reason for a pirate faction warfare pilot to gain acces to HI-Sec for a day is either run incursions or re-supply his arsenal
The pirate in Pirate faction corporation or alliance will make isk and LP in the following way's - Active hunting Navy Faction Capsuleers in FW space. - Destroying a ship will be rewarded with some LP and Isk compared to the destroyed hull. - Pirates now can take control of the same Faction Warfare sites in the same way by orbiting the structure in the sites. - They will have to get rid of the NPC faction in the site to start the timer. - When completed this will be rewarded with LP from your Pirate Faction.
Further we need more lvl 1 to 5 agents seeded in Low-Sec to do missions against Concord and the 4 Empire Factions.
To support this kind of addition to eve. It will enhance the Sandbox and roleplay community qith a great feature.
Another thing add small Hi-Sec Pocket for Tutorial agents and carreer agents piracy focussed and allow new players to start directly as a Blood raider or Angel for example were they can run lvl 1 & 2 missions Only to motivate to move to low/0.0 space for better agents. And train up a bit to work up to PvP switching Concord out for the Local Pirate Faction. basically creating little Tortuga's for each Pirate Faction.
Well some will like this idea and some wont like this, what i want is constructive feedback on ideas and why or why not having certain mechanics like the examples i have stated in this post.  http://tnoh.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=576554
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Grunnax Aurelius
luna Oscura Clandestina Armada The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.06.14 12:52:00 -
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Give me a second while I go pop a bottle of 18 year old Chivers Regal, re-read this post and scream and shout in druken excitement!!!
+1 Here
For the little hi-sec islands in low sec where you will start your Pirate FW career, are you suggesting that the security of that space would be the relevant pirate faction npcs that act like and as strong as the navy in hi-sec, that they engage people not enlisted as a part of that perticular Pirate FW? Two Teir Carriers-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=207604&find=unread |

Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.06.14 12:53:00 -
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Edited some of the mechanics being able to bypass pardon's letter mechanic's by paying other pirate faction capsuleers for the LP to gain them
not tradeable or contractable. mechanic has been added to the post.
therefor each pirate has to work for it himself http://tnoh.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=576554
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Grunnax Aurelius
luna Oscura Clandestina Armada The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.06.14 12:59:00 -
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Bakuhz wrote:Edited some of the mechanics being able to bypass pardon's letter mechanic's by paying other pirate faction capsuleers for the LP to gain them
now pirates can not trade or contract over pardon letters. mechanic has been added to the prevent easy hHi-Sec access.
So essentially the pardon is a character bound item, eg. not tradable. awesome!!! Two Teir Carriers-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=207604&find=unread |

Bakuhz
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Posted - 2013.06.14 13:00:00 -
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Grunnax Aurelius wrote:Give me a second while I go pop a bottle of 18 year old Chivers Regal, re-read this post and scream and shout in drunken excitement!!!
+1 Here
For the little hi-sec islands in low sec where you will start your Pirate FW career, are you suggesting that the security of that space would be the relevant pirate faction npcs that act like and as strong as the navy in hi-sec, that they engage people not enlisted as a part of that perticular Pirate FW?
it will be the CONCORD of the Pirate Faction in the starter pirate system's to prevent Game Breaking Ganks and griefing. http://tnoh.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=576554
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Leslie Chow
Meltdown.
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:11:00 -
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Too busy to read whole post but. THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN SOME FORM CCP. |

Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.06.14 19:35:00 -
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requesting more feedback to work this topic out more i would not mind to work in the late hour's with ccp to refine this idea http://tnoh.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=576554
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Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.06.16 00:50:00 -
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bomp http://tnoh.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=576554
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Naomi Anthar
Loza Szydercow Li3 Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.16 00:58:00 -
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I support this but ... also i would love to see more low sec. And part of this war to take also in low sec, not just null.
But this is absolutely one of best things (at least for me) that can happen to EvE. I would be loyal AS HELL Corpus or Centus Soldier !
Not sure about who would fight with who ... As far as i can tell you it would be Blood Raiders + Sansha vs Angel + Serpentis. I think Dread Guristas are more friends with Sansha/Blood Raiders than with Angel / Serpentis too. That could lead to some imbalance like 3 factions vs 2 . But in the end EVE is cruel world and is not meant to be FAIR ;). |

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
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Posted - 2013.06.16 01:54:00 -
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this would require quite severe penalties otherwise there would be no reason to not join the pirate faction if you are already in FW. E.g.: standing penalties with all four factions would be the minimum. But the standing penalties are already so insignificant that it basically doesn't matter. eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |

Bakuhz
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Posted - 2013.06.16 08:21:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:I support this but ... also i would love to see more low sec. And part of this war to take also in low sec, not just null.
But this is absolutely one of best things (at least for me) that can happen to EvE. I would be loyal AS HELL Corpus or Centus Soldier !
Not sure about who would fight with who ... As far as i can tell you it would be Blood Raiders + Sansha vs Angel + Serpentis. I think Dread Guristas are more friends with Sansha/Blood Raiders than with Angel / Serpentis too. That could lead to some imbalance like 3 factions vs 2 . But in the end EVE is cruel world and is not meant to be FAIR ;).
by lore some of the pirates are allied to eachother and some are enemies from eachother this should be the case. but also they will have all 4 empires in the neck as a pirate is an outlaw so they will also fight the current respective empire navy factions
all this will be in low-sec as it should be playing in the same territory of the empires. currently most pirate npc agents are 0.0 and they would need to be seeded over low-sec and 0.0. though 0.0 is not to be touched for sov is the game mechanic there.
this is a low-sec game so it should stick there its basically nothing more then an expansion of the current faction warfare more weaved in the storylines of new eden.
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Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.06.16 08:27:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:this would require quite severe penalties otherwise there would be no reason to not join the pirate faction if you are already in FW. E.g.: standing penalties with all four factions would be the minimum. But the standing penalties are already so insignificant that it basically doesn't matter.
yes this is my idea aswell you are an outlaw and banned from Hi-Sec by default. this is where the Pardon letter comes to play.
aswel lthat some of the pirate factions are alied to eachother and some are enemies. all this should play a role in the respective pirate factions.
following the storyline of new eden is important as this icreases the Roleplay genre for the players love. i think CVA would love to support this aswell as they are roleplayers aswell and nice juicy targets. http://tnoh.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=576554
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
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Posted - 2013.06.16 08:38:00 -
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Just when I had lost hope that there would be any good ideas posted today.
+1 |

Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.06.16 10:57:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Just when I had lost hope that there would be any good ideas posted today.
+1
there is hope? yeaaah!!!
but seriously we need something like this 
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Caleb Seremshur
Angel of War Whores in space
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Posted - 2013.06.16 11:57:00 -
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I would like to see pirate faction presence in lowsec. It makes more sense for them to have stations there than the empires fighting over the 0.1 status systems as they currently do. |

Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.06.16 12:13:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:I would like to see pirate faction presence in lowsec. It makes more sense for them to have stations there than the empires fighting over the 0.1 status systems as they currently do.
strong point there. the security lvl is low the only reason should be because pirate activity is very high there and empire loses grasp over ground.
now CCP can add Pirates to DUST 514 aswell.
but i dont care about the console gamer's out there EVE is my main goal
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poepstreep66
Heralds of Vengeance The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.06.16 12:16:00 -
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I would say this idea should be a point of focus for the next expension. Pilots and corps have been wanting to "join" with pirate factions for years now. Pilots use to do it in the roleplaying kind of way. This however would be a great improvment. |

soldieroffortune 258
No-Mercy Get in the Van.
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Posted - 2013.06.16 12:59:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:I support this but ... also i would love to see more low sec. And part of this war to take also in low sec, not just null.
But this is absolutely one of best things (at least for me) that can happen to EvE. I would be loyal AS HELL Corpus or Centus Soldier !
Not sure about who would fight with who ... As far as i can tell you it would be Blood Raiders + Sansha vs Angel + Serpentis. I think Dread Guristas are more friends with Sansha/Blood Raiders than with Angel / Serpentis too. That could lead to some imbalance like 3 factions vs 2 . But in the end EVE is cruel world and is not meant to be FAIR ;).
There doesn't even need to be more lowsec, if they expanded the FW to low sec regions which are not currently involved, it would make FW seem a whole lot bigger.
Back to my 2 cents, OP, this was an excellent idea. And though I would likely not involve myself with it, it would be cool to watch. I think there might be another influx of FW if they had the chance to fight Pirates instead of just the opposing faction, it would attract more noobs to PVP
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Rhea Rankin Nolen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.16 14:02:00 -
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I absolutely support this idea. Especially like the idea of gaining points for taking out navy faction pilots! LP's should be rewarded when destroying opposing pirate faction and neutral pilots too, but maybe in a smaller amount.
It would be a huge addition to existing FW system, and would sure make lowsec more alive and scenic than ever.
CCP, make it happen! 
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Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.06.16 14:20:00 -
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Rhea Rankin Nolen wrote:I absolutely support this idea. Especially like the idea of gaining points for taking out navy faction pilots! LP's should be rewarded when destroying opposing pirate faction and neutral pilots too, but maybe in a smaller amount. It would be a huge addition to existing FW system, and would sure make lowsec more alive and scenic than ever. CCP, make it happen! 
i knew this was a good idea keep it alive and spread the word 
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Bakuhz
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Posted - 2013.06.17 00:36:00 -
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bump
Currently working out details of the allied factions and allied pirate factions
and the currently missing pirate faction cross trainable ship. will be back with more content soon
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max ericshaun
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.06.17 02:19:00 -
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This is a really great idea. I'd love to fly with the cartel!  |

Ruze
Next Stage Initiative Trans-Stellar Industries
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Posted - 2013.06.17 02:27:00 -
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Bakuhz wrote:Grunnax Aurelius wrote:Give me a second while I go pop a bottle of 18 year old Chivers Regal, re-read this post and scream and shout in drunken excitement!!!
+1 Here
For the little hi-sec islands in low sec where you will start your Pirate FW career, are you suggesting that the security of that space would be the relevant pirate faction npcs that act like and as strong as the navy in hi-sec, that they engage people not enlisted as a part of that perticular Pirate FW? it will be the CONCORD of the Pirate Faction in the starter pirate system's to prevent Game Breaking Ganks and griefing.
Hold up.
Being serious here.
We anti-pirates had BETTER be able to go to systems next to pirate noob systems and gank in catalysts.
Just saying. It had better be possible, or this is no deal.
And CONCORD should PAY us for it!!!! If you're driven to threaten others with harm or violence because of what they do in game, you can't separate fantasy from reality. That "griefer/thief" is probably more sane than you are. How screwed up is that? |

max ericshaun
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.06.17 02:40:00 -
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Ruze wrote:Bakuhz wrote:Grunnax Aurelius wrote:Give me a second while I go pop a bottle of 18 year old Chivers Regal, re-read this post and scream and shout in drunken excitement!!!
+1 Here
For the little hi-sec islands in low sec where you will start your Pirate FW career, are you suggesting that the security of that space would be the relevant pirate faction npcs that act like and as strong as the navy in hi-sec, that they engage people not enlisted as a part of that perticular Pirate FW? it will be the CONCORD of the Pirate Faction in the starter pirate system's to prevent Game Breaking Ganks and griefing. Hold up. Being serious here. We anti-pirates had BETTER be able to go to systems next to pirate noob systems and gank in catalysts. Just saying. It had better be possible, or this is no deal. And CONCORD should PAY us for it!!!!
I love the idea of concord paying for ganking pirates. You wanna run with the pirate factions? Most of eve starts out by shooting pirates in asteroid belts for isk. Add players to the menu. |

Ruze
Next Stage Initiative Trans-Stellar Industries
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Posted - 2013.06.17 03:18:00 -
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max ericshaun wrote:Ruze wrote:Bakuhz wrote:Grunnax Aurelius wrote:Give me a second while I go pop a bottle of 18 year old Chivers Regal, re-read this post and scream and shout in drunken excitement!!!
+1 Here
For the little hi-sec islands in low sec where you will start your Pirate FW career, are you suggesting that the security of that space would be the relevant pirate faction npcs that act like and as strong as the navy in hi-sec, that they engage people not enlisted as a part of that perticular Pirate FW? it will be the CONCORD of the Pirate Faction in the starter pirate system's to prevent Game Breaking Ganks and griefing. Hold up. Being serious here. We anti-pirates had BETTER be able to go to systems next to pirate noob systems and gank in catalysts. Just saying. It had better be possible, or this is no deal. And CONCORD should PAY us for it!!!! I love the idea of concord paying for ganking pirates. You wanna run with the pirate factions? Most of eve starts out by shooting pirates in asteroid belts for isk. Add players to the menu.
The tears.
"I want to be a pirate. But, I want to kill NPC good guys, not player good guys."
Sounds like hisec in reverse. The possibilities for disrupting other's gameplay are near endless with this. How do you justify complaining about getting killed by players if your a pirate, especially if you know that they get paid to do it? If you're driven to threaten others with harm or violence because of what they do in game, you can't separate fantasy from reality. That "griefer/thief" is probably more sane than you are. How screwed up is that? |

DSpite Culhach
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
112
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Posted - 2013.06.17 06:03:00 -
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I'm trying to wrap my head around the concept.
I remember way back talking to a mate about the ability for players to ACTUALLY join both a Police Faction and official Pirate factions in order to have mini-wars in both hisec and lowsec as people get to shoot the other ala FW.
Is this what you are pointing at, or just - like someoene said already - inverse the high-low sec situation to allow the pirate players killing ... what? Actual police ships?
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Kane Fenris
NWP
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Posted - 2013.06.17 10:30:00 -
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+1 strongly support idea of pirate factional warfare
you should be given more chices to realy attatch yourself do a certain non player faction if you want to.
the eve sandbox is kind of limited in that area you dont realy gain alot of things by supporting npc factions (what might be considered boring by many players) but "beeing booring" is just a symptom of bad gameplay system. dont get me wrong i love eve but i feel it lacks of meaningfull rewards/choices in the npc department. pirate FW would help that alot. |

Loki Feiht
Feiht Family Clan
80
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Posted - 2013.06.17 10:30:00 -
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pirate facwar sounds great but personally i would implement it with only loyalties vs every other faction ie serpentis+angels vs every other faction, Hell you could even do a Sansha vs everyone, or just make anyone who joins -10 More NPC thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=220858 |

Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:08:00 -
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Ruze wrote:Bakuhz wrote:Grunnax Aurelius wrote:Give me a second while I go pop a bottle of 18 year old Chivers Regal, re-read this post and scream and shout in drunken excitement!!!
+1 Here
For the little hi-sec islands in low sec where you will start your Pirate FW career, are you suggesting that the security of that space would be the relevant pirate faction npcs that act like and as strong as the navy in hi-sec, that they engage people not enlisted as a part of that perticular Pirate FW? it will be the CONCORD of the Pirate Faction in the starter pirate system's to prevent Game Breaking Ganks and griefing. Hold up. Being serious here. We anti-pirates had BETTER be able to go to systems next to pirate noob systems and gank in catalysts. Just saying. It had better be possible, or this is no deal. And CONCORD should PAY us for it!!!!
yes but instead you will get PIRATED a.k.a. CONCORDED
Pretty weird though that a do gooder would gank doesnt make that person a pirate then aswell?
but yes offcourse its the same mechanic but with pirate faction as the local law enforcement to protect the rookie system a bit
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Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings The Nightingales of Hades
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:14:00 -
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DSpite Culhach wrote:I'm trying to wrap my head around the concept.
I remember way back talking to a mate about the ability for players to ACTUALLY join both a Police Faction and official Pirate factions in order to have mini-wars in both hisec and lowsec as people get to shoot the other ala FW.
Is this what you are pointing at, or just - like someoene said already - inverse the high-low sec situation to allow the pirate players killing ... what? Actual police ships?
Sorry, sorta confused.
it would indeed be a reversed system in the pirate rookie area.(pirate hi-Sec) just to protect the youngsters from the older pilot's in some way.
by a pirate faction force as sort of a CONCORD. all mechanics like bait cans, duels, etc all work like in hello kitty space.
there will be pirate factions allied to one another and some are enemies following the storylines of eve. and ontop we have the current faction warfare system that fight eachother and the pirates aswell. so there is a great option of cross interest fights. lookign at it the pirates have to most enemies = most targets
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