Allow free accounts, that are limited to in-station interactions, and no ability to create market orders, build ships, or trade away items (though they should be allowed to recieve imo)

This would also be a good way to keep players in the community who's subscriptions are unpaid, or simply to introduce new people into eve

I 100% understand the need to keep these accounts unable to interact with the economy, and i believe incarna could be the key to enabling f2p with microtransaction for clothing / avatar related items

The ability to receive items would encourage the person to subscribe, (like a currently unpaid account, it can recieve isk, but it is unable to send anything)

In-station currency could be Aur only, and fill it with sinks, such as clothing, but also minigames, boardgames, etc etc, allow the f2p player use some basic minigames for free, but require Aur (and allow it to be transfered to f2p players so they can spend it for me!)

free2play is stupid, and shall newer be

i want a way to invite people from other games and give them a taste of eve

the first 14 days, even 21 days of eve were hardly enough to get me hooked tbh, i didn't subscribe until much later.
It would also allow basically a GUI access to your API, but also chat etc. Promote eve as your new desktop background!

The point is, it will place eve into the f2p market, while not murdering the economy. It would also be a nice way to test new MT models, using station-only items. They could tie this into Dust somehow and get very creative, and it wouldn't affect our spaceships

-day-pass to for major events, like major patch/expansion, alliance tournament, etc
-day-pass to get more people into the major sisi test events?

One thing i hear in corps is how many people they're booting due to inactivity, or how many inactives does that corp have? etc This would be a good way to keep them at least connected, or the option of checking back in and possibly resubscribing

It would also give CCP a way to make more money, and thats good for eve too

Allow free accounts, that are limited to in-station interactions, and no ability to create market orders, build ships, or trade away items (though they should be allowed to recieve imo)

This would also be a good way to keep players in the community who's subscriptions are unpaid, or simply to introduce new people into eve

I 100% understand the need to keep these accounts unable to interact with the economy, and i believe incarna could be the key to enabling f2p with microtransaction for clothing / avatar related items

The ability to receive items would encourage the person to subscribe, (like a currently unpaid account, it can recieve isk, but it is unable to send anything)

In-station currency could be Aur only, and fill it with sinks, such as clothing, but also minigames, boardgames, etc etc, allow the f2p player use some basic minigames for free, but require Aur (and allow it to be transfered to f2p players so they can spend it for me!)

Eve has a hard cap on the number of users it can support.

So your argument against F2P is simply that EVE doesn't need more players because Jita can't handle more people?

I was actually far more concerned about the login server.

Multiple login servers, multiple proxy servers connecting players to the actual Tranqulity cluster. The redundancy is already there. Your concern is misplaced.

I like the idea, but I think it should be implemented in another fashion.

1) Retain the current trail system (14 days or 21) to allow FiS and WiS content. Once the trail account runs out, it is reverted to a WiS only F2P account.

2) F2P accounts will be a more offline focused trail, without FiS. These players will basically have the ability to walk around stations and post on the forums. They should not be allowed to participate in any economical activities, access ships, join corps, trade or influence buy orders or contracts. No skills, no PI, no science or industry of any kind. At most, they can chat with other eve players in channels or wander the halls once Incarna's public areas are put online. By increasing the life of a trial account, but limiting it's capabilities even more, you leave enough room for people to continue experiencing Eve and hopefully sign on.

Agreed. Most F2P MMOs I've played have been bad or just trivial, which is the exact opposites of what EVE is.

F2P in eve is quite abusable by bots still.

free2play is stupid, and shall newer be

why would f2p need api access....thye wouldn't be able to train. Want the sp's, want to buy a sub. Eve killed ghost training way back, they aren't bringing it back in any fashion. Ghost training was f2p. Put in your freightter 5, "quit" eve for 2 months
and come back to said freighter 5 skill all trained up for free.

If leaving eve.....get a fresh final update on your evemon/eft before the sub dies. Thes programs don't wipe data. Evemon will warn you it cna't pull api data, but leaves old data in place. I know this well....I have a dead account that gets full evemon functionality except api (which is not needed, the char's record does not change) on a char who if I return to eve full time and go 0.0 I can wake up this char and do a power cap alt train.

And again...how does letting people type /dance for months on end = more subs. Eve is learned playiing it. For example in blockade you learn to not kill the trigger NPC's. usually after you do it the first time nad have 2 waves of ships in the room and you being sensor damped to death and it takes forever to clear out both waves. then if really stupid...you kill hte 2nd waves trigger early and you now have 3 waves in your room. PVP more of the same. I can tell you what to do iwhen you land in bubbles. I will also tell you the first time you land in one you will forget hlaf of what I said to do. I did anyway, read all the bubble tactics, went in prepared (I thought) and acted like a tard my first bubbles since it was sink or swim and and I sank lol. What exacly does typing /dance do to ease player transition to this game for the above?

further thinking about it.... I am not sure F2P will attract more players to eve.

the MMO market is now saturated with F2P options as all the big name MMO's open a F2P option on their Games.
I see people simple flipping from one game to the next just not really investing their time in any direction.

Eve might stand out from the others by the fact there is no real long term no obligation "F2P" option

Id never played F2P and only saw it on steam once it had already gone F2P but to be honest TF2 is an awesome game which didnt deserve F2P slapped on it. If id known about the game earlier I would have actually spent money on it. F2P games are awful poor games and TF2 is an exception to the rule.

Well, I have yet to successfully convince any of my friends to play EVE. When I get to the skills and training times and they hear that some of them take months to train in a game with monthly subscription I always get laughed at.

Point is, no amount of F2P game time will entice people to subscribe when they don't like one of the core aspects of the game.