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Darth Fett
Iris Covenant The Gorgon Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.16 14:18:00 -
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Hi I found this in patchnotes: The Focused Warp Disruption Script for Warp Disruption Field Generators will no longer prevent the Micro Jump Drive from activating. http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-retribution-1.1 Why now even Heavy Interdictor - ship, that disigned for tackling, cannot stop MJD?
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
830
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Posted - 2013.06.16 14:20:00 -
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And why would this be a problem? *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14877
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Posted - 2013.06.16 14:58:00 -
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Darth Fett wrote:Why now even Heavy Interdictor - ship, that disigned for tackling, cannot stop MJD? Sure they can. They just have to fit the right modules for it. And HICs are designed for tackling capships GÇö ships that can't fit the MJD.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
338
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Posted - 2013.06.16 15:13:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Darth Fett wrote:Why now even Heavy Interdictor - ship, that disigned for tackling, cannot stop MJD? Sure they can. They just have to fit the right modules for it. Don't you bring your filthy scrams into this discussion, Tippia. Rifterlings Corporation is now recruiting pilots for faction warfare solo & small gang frigate PvP. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
2251
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Posted - 2013.06.16 16:06:00 -
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I love MJD whine threads!!!
Fit the right module. Better yet, bring the right ship for the job.
There are a few Gallente hulls that make stopping MJD trivial.
But more whine meantime, plz. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Darth Fett
Iris Covenant The Gorgon Empire
45
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Posted - 2013.06.16 16:28:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:And why would this be a problem? Supercapitals can be tackledwith interdictor bubbles, HD bubbles, HD beam; (3) T3 with nullifier can be tackled with disruptor, srcambler, HD beam; (3) Warp stabbed ship can be tackled with proper amount of disruptors/scrambler or any bubble or HD beam. (all) MJD ship can be tackled only with scramblers. (1) MJD >>> all other, why?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14878
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Posted - 2013.06.16 16:35:00 -
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Darth Fett wrote:MJD ship can be tackled only with scramblers. (1) MJD >>> all other, why? Because it eats more fitting space than far more useful modules and is limited to only three ship classes anyway (all of which are trivially caught and held by scrambling ships).
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3545
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Posted - 2013.06.16 17:27:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote: There are a few Gallente hulls that make stopping MJD trivial.
Under the right circumstances, they can even tackle an MJD ship without a scram. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Ammzi
Boob Heads Test Alliance Please Ignore
1363
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Posted - 2013.06.16 17:50:00 -
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OP - THAT'S THE SAME DEAL WITH MWD. THERE WAS INCONSISTENCY BETWEEN MWD AND MJD.
SO SHUT THE **** UP AND DON'T CRY - THANK YOU quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
266
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Posted - 2013.06.16 17:56:00 -
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That's kind of crap.
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Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.06.17 03:19:00 -
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Onictus wrote:That's kind of crap.
I ironically +1'd your post.
What works for an MWD works for an MJD.
A disruptor isn't good enough to stop an MWD interceptor.
Hey guess what it's not good enough for MJD BS either.
[Edit: Also, just to make sure I'm providing plenty of content, if you're fast you can cover the 100km while your point is still active. That means they can't warp since you have them tackled. This is thread is just a bunch of crybaby shenanigans trying to imply you can't hold tackle on an MJD BS resulting from either one of two things:
a) buttmadness over MJD dunking activities against you (LOL)
b) buttmadness over not understanding the game's evolution (LOL too).
So welcome to Eve, HTFU, try to get and hold a tackle and have fun!] He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
269
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Posted - 2013.06.17 03:30:00 -
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A disruptor is plenty to stop an interceptor.....if you are fast enough to keep up. In fact that is exactly what happened here, I burned the 20 some odd talwars and died to the two ceptors that I couldn't out run. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18150042
My gripe is that the infinipoint that is enough to stop an "untackleable" super is NOT enough to stop at MJD? Really? That rather defies logic. |

Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
2252
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Posted - 2013.06.17 03:32:00 -
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Onictus wrote:A disruptor is plenty to stop an interceptor.....if you are fast enough to keep up. In fact that is exactly what happened here, I burned the 20 some odd talwars and died to the two ceptors that I couldn't out run. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18150042My gripe is that the infinipoint that is enough to stop an "untackleable" super is NOT enough to stop at MJD? Really? That rather defies logic. The infinite point prevents the BS from warping.
It doesn't stop the MJD any more than it stops an Interceptor's MWD.
So you are incorrect. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
269
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Posted - 2013.06.17 03:34:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Onictus wrote:A disruptor is plenty to stop an interceptor.....if you are fast enough to keep up. In fact that is exactly what happened here, I burned the 20 some odd talwars and died to the two ceptors that I couldn't out run. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18150042My gripe is that the infinipoint that is enough to stop an "untackleable" super is NOT enough to stop at MJD? Really? That rather defies logic. The infinite point prevents the BS from warping. It doesn't stop the MJD any more than it stops an Interceptor's MWD. So you are incorrect.
So shuts down a cap or super caps jump drive.....but not a battleship's MICRO jump drive.
Yeah, OK. |

Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.06.17 03:35:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Onictus wrote:A disruptor is plenty to stop an interceptor.....if you are fast enough to keep up. In fact that is exactly what happened here, I burned the 20 some odd talwars and died to the two ceptors that I couldn't out run. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18150042My gripe is that the infinipoint that is enough to stop an "untackleable" super is NOT enough to stop at MJD? Really? That rather defies logic. The infinite point prevents the BS from warping. It doesn't stop the MJD any more than it stops an Interceptor's MWD. So you are incorrect. So shuts down a cap or super caps jump drive.....but not a battleship's MICRO jump drive. Yeah, OK. You seem to be complaining that an infininte point doesn't stop a prop mod.
I am trying to not laugh. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
270
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Posted - 2013.06.17 03:37:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Onictus wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Onictus wrote:A disruptor is plenty to stop an interceptor.....if you are fast enough to keep up. In fact that is exactly what happened here, I burned the 20 some odd talwars and died to the two ceptors that I couldn't out run. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18150042My gripe is that the infinipoint that is enough to stop an "untackleable" super is NOT enough to stop at MJD? Really? That rather defies logic. The infinite point prevents the BS from warping. It doesn't stop the MJD any more than it stops an Interceptor's MWD. So you are incorrect. So shuts down a cap or super caps jump drive.....but not a battleship's MICRO jump drive. Yeah, OK. You seem to be complaining that an infininte point doesn't stop a prop mod. I am trying to not laugh.
Whatever. |

Mud Pandemonium
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.06.17 03:54:00 -
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You know we use MJDs correct?
Feel free to cry about HAMGUs while you're at it.
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
271
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Posted - 2013.06.17 04:10:00 -
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Mud Pandemonium wrote:You know we use MJDs correct? Feel free to cry about HAMGUs while you're at it.
Yeah I have one. ...multiple hamgus for that matter.
...and so what? |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2906
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Posted - 2013.06.17 04:13:00 -
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Doctor! We have rising levels of 'madbro' in this thread! |

Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
2254
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Posted - 2013.06.17 04:15:00 -
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Tell me more about how scripted wdfg should stop populsion mods. I want to keep this thread on-topic for the sake of the forum rules.
Nevermind the comedy.  He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
271
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Posted - 2013.06.17 04:21:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Tell me more about how scripted wdfg should stop populsion mods. I want to keep this thread on-topic for the sake of the forum rules. Nevermind the comedy. 
Call it a point of view thing. You are looking at it like a an MWD that blinks you 100km, I'm looking at it by name. micro-jump drive.
If an infinipoint stops EVERY other jump drive in the game and keeps everything else from warping (in range) it should damp well stop the warp or the jump from a MJD.
So laugh away. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3547
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Posted - 2013.06.17 04:23:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:Doctor! We have rising levels of 'madbro' in this thread!
I'll write a prescription for Nomad-«
Warning: Side effects may include Jawas. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
2254
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Posted - 2013.06.17 04:27:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Tell me more about how scripted wdfg should stop populsion mods. I want to keep this thread on-topic for the sake of the forum rules. Nevermind the comedy.  Call it a point of view thing. You are looking at it like a an MWD that blinks you 100km, I'm looking at it by name. micro-jump drive. If an infinipoint stops EVERY other jump drive in the game and keeps everything else from warping (in range) it should damp well stop the warp or the jump from a MJD. So laugh away.
First of all, let me get this out of the way: The MJD is a propulsion module because that's how the game categorizes it. My viewpoint comes from CCP's mechanics department doing their job correctly.
Meanwhile, your point of view comes frome extrapolating a case-example of a bunch of pseudo-scientific role-playing nonsense as a generalization to justify a terribad game mechanic. Now I realize that may seem unfair so I'm sorry you're not happy with the role-playing fiction behind the game mechanic (which makes sense).
But if Scripted WDFG start stopping prop mods I'm leaving FA, forming my own pirate alliance, and dominating low-sec for the rest of the game's lifetime. I'm sorry, but that would be entirely op for mechanically-irrelevant role-play reasons.
That's definitely not good for Eve. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1792
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Posted - 2013.06.17 04:29:00 -
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Darth Fett wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:And why would this be a problem? Supercapitals can be tackledwith interdictor bubbles, HD bubbles, HD beam; (3) T3 with nullifier can be tackled with disruptor, srcambler, HD beam; (3) Warp stabbed ship can be tackled with proper amount of disruptors/scrambler or any bubble or HD beam. (all) MJD ship can be tackled only with scramblers. (1) MJD >>> all other, why?
Having had a few MJD ships try and get away from me, I can tell you a good interceptor pilot can be right on top of him in fairly short order. Especially if the MJD is the only prop mod on the ship. |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
271
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Posted - 2013.06.17 04:31:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Onictus wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Tell me more about how scripted wdfg should stop populsion mods. I want to keep this thread on-topic for the sake of the forum rules. Nevermind the comedy.  Call it a point of view thing. You are looking at it like a an MWD that blinks you 100km, I'm looking at it by name. micro-jump drive. If an infinipoint stops EVERY other jump drive in the game and keeps everything else from warping (in range) it should damp well stop the warp or the jump from a MJD. So laugh away. First of all, let me get this out of the way: The MJD is a propulsion module because that's how the game categorizes it. My viewpoint comes from CCP's mechanics department doing their job correctly. Meanwhile, your point of view comes frome extrapolating a case-example of a bunch of pseudo-scientific role-playing nonsense as a generalization to justify a terribad game mechanic. Now I realize that may seem unfair so I'm sorry you're not happy with the role-playing fiction behind the game mechanic (which makes sense). But if Scripted WDFG start stopping prop mods I'm leaving FA, forming my own pirate alliance, and dominating low-sec for the rest of the game's lifetime. I'm sorry, but that would be entirely op for mechanically-irrelevant role-play reasons. That's definitely not good for Eve.
You done bathering about yet? No one said focus scripts should shut down MWDs, but if scrams work on MJDs an infinipoint damn well should to.
without the three extra paragraphs of bullshit. |

Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
2254
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Posted - 2013.06.17 04:34:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Onictus wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Tell me more about how scripted wdfg should stop populsion mods. I want to keep this thread on-topic for the sake of the forum rules. Nevermind the comedy.  Call it a point of view thing. You are looking at it like a an MWD that blinks you 100km, I'm looking at it by name. micro-jump drive. If an infinipoint stops EVERY other jump drive in the game and keeps everything else from warping (in range) it should damp well stop the warp or the jump from a MJD. So laugh away. First of all, let me get this out of the way: The MJD is a propulsion module because that's how the game categorizes it. My viewpoint comes from CCP's mechanics department doing their job correctly. Meanwhile, your point of view comes frome extrapolating a case-example of a bunch of pseudo-scientific role-playing nonsense as a generalization to justify a terribad game mechanic. Now I realize that may seem unfair so I'm sorry you're not happy with the role-playing fiction behind the game mechanic (which makes sense). But if Scripted WDFG start stopping prop mods I'm leaving FA, forming my own pirate alliance, and dominating low-sec for the rest of the game's lifetime. I'm sorry, but that would be entirely op for mechanically-irrelevant role-play reasons. That's definitely not good for Eve. You done bathering about yet? No one said focus scripts should shut down MWDs, but if scrams work on MJDs an infinipoint damn well should to. without the three extra paragraphs of bullshit. If scrams stop MWD's scripted WDFG's damn well should too.
Your logic is astonishing. You said this. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
271
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Posted - 2013.06.17 04:49:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Onictus wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Onictus wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Tell me more about how scripted wdfg should stop populsion mods. I want to keep this thread on-topic for the sake of the forum rules. Nevermind the comedy.  Call it a point of view thing. You are looking at it like a an MWD that blinks you 100km, I'm looking at it by name. micro-jump drive. If an infinipoint stops EVERY other jump drive in the game and keeps everything else from warping (in range) it should damp well stop the warp or the jump from a MJD. So laugh away. First of all, let me get this out of the way: The MJD is a propulsion module because that's how the game categorizes it. My viewpoint comes from CCP's mechanics department doing their job correctly. Meanwhile, your point of view comes frome extrapolating a case-example of a bunch of pseudo-scientific role-playing nonsense as a generalization to justify a terribad game mechanic. Now I realize that may seem unfair so I'm sorry you're not happy with the role-playing fiction behind the game mechanic (which makes sense). But if Scripted WDFG start stopping prop mods I'm leaving FA, forming my own pirate alliance, and dominating low-sec for the rest of the game's lifetime. I'm sorry, but that would be entirely op for mechanically-irrelevant role-play reasons. That's definitely not good for Eve. You done bathering about yet? No one said focus scripts should shut down MWDs, but if scrams work on MJDs an infinipoint damn well should to. without the three extra paragraphs of bullshit. If scrams stop MWD's scripted WDFG's damn well should too. Your logic is astonishing. You said this.
You should go back and read what you quoted. Carefully.
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
271
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Posted - 2013.06.17 04:51:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Darth Fett wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:And why would this be a problem? Supercapitals can be tackledwith interdictor bubbles, HD bubbles, HD beam; (3) T3 with nullifier can be tackled with disruptor, srcambler, HD beam; (3) Warp stabbed ship can be tackled with proper amount of disruptors/scrambler or any bubble or HD beam. (all) MJD ship can be tackled only with scramblers. (1) MJD >>> all other, why? Having had a few MJD ships try and get away from me, I can tell you a good interceptor pilot can be right on top of him in fairly short order. Especially if the MJD is the only prop mod on the ship.
Yeah if you are ahead of their align, I don't relish trying to run down a MJD fleet from behind though, that is a lot of burning to a lot of DPS. |

Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.06.17 04:51:00 -
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Look, the same line of pseudo-scientific role-playing justification reasoning arrives at two very unrealistic expectations:
If scrams stop MJD, scripted WDFG should too.
That is the same exact logic as:
If scrams stop MWD, scripted WDFG should too.
Which is clearly wrong. Therefore, so are you. Flawed logic is flawed. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
271
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Posted - 2013.06.17 04:55:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Look, the same line of pseudo-scientific role-playing justification reasoning arrives at two very unrealistic expectations:
If scrams stop MJD, scripted WDFG should too.
That is the same exact logic as:
If scrams stop MWD, scripted WDFG should too.
Which is clearly wrong. Therefore, so are you. Flawed logic is flawed.
For real? You came up with this all by yourself? Color me impressed. |
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