Why now even Heavy Interdictor - ship, that disigned for tackling, cannot stop MJD?

Sure they can. They just have to fit the right modules for it.

And why would this be a problem?

MJD ship can be tackled only with scramblers. (1) MJD >>> all other, why?

There are a few Gallente hulls that make stopping MJD trivial.

That's kind of crap.

A disruptor is plenty to stop an interceptor.....if you are fast enough to keep up. In fact that is exactly what happened here, I burned the 20 some odd talwars and died to the two ceptors that I couldn't out run. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18150042


My gripe is that the infinipoint that is enough to stop an "untackleable" super is NOT enough to stop at MJD? Really? That rather defies logic.

The infinite point prevents the BS from warping.

It doesn't stop the MJD any more than it stops an Interceptor's MWD.

So you are incorrect.

So shuts down a cap or super caps jump drive.....but not a battleship's MICRO jump drive.

Yeah, OK.

You seem to be complaining that an infininte point doesn't stop a prop mod.

I am trying to not laugh.

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Whatever.

You know we use MJDs correct?

Feel free to cry about HAMGUs while you're at it.

Tell me more about how scripted wdfg should stop populsion mods. I want to keep this thread on-topic for the sake of the forum rules.

Nevermind the comedy.

Doctor! We have rising levels of 'madbro' in this thread!

Call it a point of view thing. You are looking at it like a an MWD that blinks you 100km, I'm looking at it by name. micro-jump drive.

If an infinipoint stops EVERY other jump drive in the game and keeps everything else from warping (in range) it should damp well stop the warp or the jump from a MJD.

So laugh away.

Supercapitals can be tackledwith interdictor bubbles, HD bubbles, HD beam; (3)
T3 with nullifier can be tackled with disruptor, srcambler, HD beam; (3)
Warp stabbed ship can be tackled with proper amount of disruptors/scrambler or any bubble or HD beam. (all)
MJD ship can be tackled only with scramblers. (1) MJD >>> all other, why?

First of all, let me get this out of the way: The MJD is a propulsion module because that's how the game categorizes it. My viewpoint comes from CCP's mechanics department doing their job correctly.

Meanwhile, your point of view comes frome extrapolating a case-example of a bunch of pseudo-scientific role-playing nonsense as a generalization to justify a terribad game mechanic. Now I realize that may seem unfair so I'm sorry you're not happy with the role-playing fiction behind the game mechanic (which makes sense).

But if Scripted WDFG start stopping prop mods I'm leaving FA, forming my own pirate alliance, and dominating low-sec for the rest of the game's lifetime. I'm sorry, but that would be entirely op for mechanically-irrelevant role-play reasons.

That's definitely not good for Eve.

You done bathering about yet? No one said focus scripts should shut down MWDs, but if scrams work on MJDs an infinipoint damn well should to.

without the three extra paragraphs of bullshit.

If scrams stop MWD's scripted WDFG's damn well should too.

Your logic is astonishing. You said this.

Having had a few MJD ships try and get away from me, I can tell you a good interceptor pilot can be right on top of him in fairly short order. Especially if the MJD is the only prop mod on the ship.

Look, the same line of pseudo-scientific role-playing justification reasoning arrives at two very unrealistic expectations:

If scrams stop MJD, scripted WDFG should too.

That is the same exact logic as:

If scrams stop MWD, scripted WDFG should too.

Which is clearly wrong. Therefore, so are you. Flawed logic is flawed.

Half of it I admittedly had to copy from you.

You know, the wrong parts.

First of all, let me get this out of the way: The MJD is a propulsion module because that's how the game categorizes it. My viewpoint comes from CCP's mechanics department doing their job correctly.

Meanwhile, your point of view comes frome extrapolating a case-example of a bunch of pseudo-scientific role-playing nonsense as a generalization to justify a terribad game mechanic. Now I realize that may seem unfair so I'm sorry you're not happy with the role-playing fiction behind the game mechanic (which makes sense).

But if Scripted WDFG start stopping prop mods I'm leaving FA, forming my own pirate alliance, and dominating low-sec for the rest of the game's lifetime. I'm sorry, but that would be entirely op for mechanically-irrelevant role-play reasons.

That's definitely not good for Eve.

That is the same exact logic as:

If scrams stop MWD, scripted WDFG should too.

NOT correct. You not need to turn off MWD for kill MWDed ship. If you have enough speed you can keep him at proper distance. You can web him to reduce speed.
But currently you need scrambler for kill MJD ship, as after jump it appear at 100km away from you, outside any your tackling modules range. Align - MJD - insta warp after - you cannot prevent it without scrambler if it done good. Even if you have your own MJD you cannot keep him tackled. You cannot decrease their jump distance with webs. No scrambler=no kill (blobs, that insta shoting BS not count).
Currently MJD is not prop module. It infinite warpstab without penalties.

No need for a scram at any point (hehehe) during this process. Just the ability to get a 28km radius

Here's how I'm reading this thread:

OP: "MJD are a bit silly and completely "out of character" within EVE, making engagements hilariously ********".

replies: "NOOO DON'T TAKE MY NEW FAD STRATEGY AWAY FROM MEEEEEEE (ps: I'm still crying over all the nano nerfs, never should have been removed because it wasn't dumb at all). I'll go troll you with fallacies and dumb logic, using smoke and mirrors to try and keep any factual discussion from happening. Because if I don't people might pick up on that idea and we wouldn't want that as that might affect CCP's stance on the whole situation and I'm too scared to deal with that since MJD allows me to run away a lot, I LOVE running away".

And still nobody fits them.

obligatory disclaimer, validating the .000001% times some guy put one on and MJD'ed off a station to see the effect.

Ok lets do a deal. Duel at spot in hisec, i will be in MJD BS, you will be in interceptor with warp disruptor (scramblers not allowed, no other aggression allowed except warp disrupting from you to me. garant - Chribba). We in one fleet. If you can hold me at this spot during 10 munutes you win and i will pay 1000mil to you. If i warp off - you fail and you will pay 1000mil to me. OK?

Hi
I found this in patchnotes:
The Focused Warp Disruption Script for Warp Disruption Field Generators will no longer prevent the Micro Jump Drive from activating.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-retribution-1.1
Why now even Heavy Interdictor - ship, that disigned for tackling, cannot stop MJD?

Ok lets do a deal. Duel at spot in hisec, i will be in MJD BS, you will be in interceptor with warp disruptor (scramblers not allowed, no other aggression allowed except warp disrupting from you to me. garant - Chribba). We in one fleet. If you can hold me at this spot during 10 munutes you win and i will pay 1000mil to you. If i warp off - you fail and you will pay 1000mil to me. OK?

Next thing is - if it cannot prevent a Micro Jump Drive - why does it prevent a capital jump drive?
TBH WARP scramblers should not prevent JUMP drives.

Next thing is - if it cannot prevent a Micro Jump Drive - why does it prevent a capital jump drive?

Because a big, complex, general purpose machine is more easily disrupted than a smaller, simpler, specialized machine. That was easy, next question!

Bonus round, if I can flip it and kill you in an inty with a MJD bs, will you offer more?