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Detaurus
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Posted - 2005.11.17 23:57:00 -
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With the nerfing of the insta jump bookmarks, getting across certain places, and known camps, expecially in links between different parts of the galaxies, will be impossible, except for small groups. This represents an attempt to place blame for a nerf on the system resources(such as the drone problem), which in reality has more to do with a persistent desire of devs to nerf solo play. The capacity of a battleship to defend itself from the protected class of tackler in an expeditious manner was severely nerfed by halving drone bays, and making drones as easy to hit as a house. The 'specialty' drones are a ridiculous joke. I should not care to take any of my well earned(that is working by ones self, not buying isk, not via communism(corporations), battleships into the eve of the future, when so much is being done to nerf solo play. Any that suggest I am playing a 'group' game can pitch in a few dollars then and pay for my subscription.
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Corvus Anderran
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Posted - 2005.11.18 00:13:00 -
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Oh my god you're right! I looked up these changes, and found that signature resolution of drones on the test server has increased, but sig radius is still the same! I thought that this was just a weapon change, but now thanks to you, Detaurus, I see the devs' plan! Clearly they intend to change the sig resolution adjustment to signature radius instead as a stealth nerf! I'm glad we have you here to spot these things for us!
Second, I read up that the insta changes won't be brought in with RMR, they are just an experiment. But now I see, the devs are clearly lying! They obviously intend to bring this change in through stealth also! Obviously the devs are all pirates, who play in frigate packs all the time, and their secret plan is to gank all of Detaurus' hard earned battleships while he's just minding his own business flying around lowsec looking for haulers to gank! 
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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2005.11.18 00:23:00 -
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So, are you leaving yet?
Can I have your stuff?
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Naughty Boy
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Posted - 2005.11.18 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: Naughty Boy on 18/11/2005 00:26:31
 Originally by: Detaurus
communism(corporations)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comunism
Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy.
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Trelennen
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Posted - 2005.11.18 01:01:00 -
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Edited by: Trelennen on 18/11/2005 01:03:59
Damn Detaurus, won't you ever stop with your uninformed whines (like sig radius of drones, which doesn't change at all) and trolls?
And comparing corporations to communism? Get a clue man, corporations is a thing from liberalism, not communism... (read the link given by naughty, maybe you'll learn something for once  )
edit: oh, and for this specific whine, changes for insta are only on test for testing right now, and devs already stated they won't go into RMR, and they're are trying to figure a way to remove instas without removing the ability to travel fast instas give.
And if you really don't like this game, please stop playing it and posting here, noone will regret you 
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dont fly what you cant afford to lose, always have it insured, make sure you can replace it before you take it into 0.0 or any potentially kaboomish situations.
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Munin Crow
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Posted - 2005.11.18 01:49:00 -
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Hehehe... actually corporations would be capitalism. 
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Detaurus
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Posted - 2005.11.18 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Naughty Boy
Edited by: Naughty Boy on 18/11/2005 00:26:31
Originally by: Detaurus
communism(corporations)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comunism
Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy.
I was not equating capitalist thriving corporations with communism.
I was equating the concept of I will do a little and my big brother will pay for everything else with communism, which it is.
Liberals, with their workers' rights and ridiculous torte requirements on behalf of often stupid and careless consumers, belive big brother and big business(corporations) should pay for everything.
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Reatu Krentor
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Posted - 2005.11.18 01:58:00 -
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*looks up reads a bit, smiles at another detaurus post and walks away*
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Detaurus
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Posted - 2005.11.18 02:04:00 -
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Insta changes are already on test center. The new drones are horrible, a newbie ship can shoot them down fairly easily. You are right, and the results are much worse than I thought. Heavy drones wont be able to hit anything small. Battleships are quickly becoming useless. The devs hate the fact that some people prefer to play this game alone. miss miss miss, with medium turrets, and large turrets, tank tank tank with cruise heavies and torpedoes, intys are becoming invulnerable, and it is more ridiculous than any other set of changes I have seen in this game. Shall we recite the major changes to combat? Lol
Turrets- All For Intys
Missiles- All For Intys
Drones- All For Intys
Insta Changes- All For Tacklers(Intys)
ECM Changes- All For Intys
Removal Of Web Range Modification From Development- All For Intys
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Professor McFly
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Posted - 2005.11.18 02:06:00 -
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World of Warcraft is that way ->
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.11.18 02:09:00 -
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Maybe the BS isn't meant to be a pwnmobile, maybe it's meant to be part of a battlegroup, just like today.
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Detaurus
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Posted - 2005.11.18 02:13:00 -
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you know what happens to an airplane that attempts a kamikaze maneuver on one of the US navies aircraft carriers today? (assuming it is not met by fighters(drones) first?
This is what they get, and the operator doesnt even have to aim
http://tri.army.mil/lc/cs/csa/phalanx.jpg
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Aeid Nomais
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Posted - 2005.11.18 02:26:00 -
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omg, just go away!!! 
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Corvus Anderran
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Posted - 2005.11.18 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Detaurus
you know what happens to an airplane that attempts a kamikaze maneuver on one of the US navies aircraft carriers today? (assuming it is not met by fighters(drones) first?
This is what they get, and the operator doesnt even have to aim
http://tri.army.mil/lc/cs/csa/phalanx.jpg
Hey, that's a good idea! So put some small guns on your BS if you want to hit small stuff! I think you solved your own problem there.
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Munin Crow
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Posted - 2005.11.18 02:44:00 -
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Quote:
I was not equating capitalist thriving corporations with communism.
I was equating the concept of I will do a little and my big brother will pay for everything else with communism, which it is.
Liberals, with their workers' rights and ridiculous torte requirements on behalf of often stupid and careless consumers, belive big brother and big business(corporations) should pay for everything.
This actually sounds a little more like working for a corporation so that you can get a chance to use the corporate credit account...
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Detaurus
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Posted - 2005.11.18 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: Corvus Anderran
Originally by: Detaurus
you know what happens to an airplane that attempts a kamikaze maneuver on one of the US navies aircraft carriers today? (assuming it is not met by fighters(drones) first?
This is what they get, and the operator doesnt even have to aim
http://tri.army.mil/lc/cs/csa/phalanx.jpg
Hey, that's a good idea! So put some small guns on your BS if you want to hit small stuff! I think you solved your own problem there.
Phalanx is a big gun, the vulcan autocannon on an a-10 is a 'small' gun
im ALL for turrets and missiles having trouble hitting small ships, but when they do, it should go BOOM!
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Furion35
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Posted - 2005.11.18 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Detaurus
im ALL for turrets and missiles having trouble hitting small ships, but when they do, it should go BOOM!
Agreed.
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Corvus Anderran
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Posted - 2005.11.18 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Detaurus
Originally by: Corvus Anderran
Originally by: Detaurus
you know what happens to an airplane that attempts a kamikaze maneuver on one of the US navies aircraft carriers today? (assuming it is not met by fighters(drones) first?
This is what they get, and the operator doesnt even have to aim
http://tri.army.mil/lc/cs/csa/phalanx.jpg
Hey, that's a good idea! So put some small guns on your BS if you want to hit small stuff! I think you solved your own problem there.
Phalanx is a big gun, the vulcan autocannon on an a-10 is a 'small' gun
im ALL for turrets and missiles having trouble hitting small ships, but when they do, it should go BOOM!
The Phalanx is not a big gun. You get those on, wait for it, frigates!
And if you hit an interceptor with a large gun, it does go boom. You just need a low transversal to hit it. Obviously you don't have the skills to use the super cool anti transversal mods.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.11.18 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Detaurus
you know what happens to an airplane that attempts a kamikaze maneuver on one of the US navies aircraft carriers today? (assuming it is not met by fighters(drones) first?
This is what they get, and the operator doesnt even have to aim
http://tri.army.mil/lc/cs/csa/phalanx.jpg
What happens to a sub when it launches a volley of torpedos at an Aircraft carrier?
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Rockbox
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Posted - 2005.11.18 03:44:00 -
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For the record the Gatling cannon in the body of an A-10 Warthod is a big gun, its a 30mm multibarrel rapid fire cannon that shoots a unique depleted uranium round... it cuts tanks and lightly armored vehicles in half...
The Phalanx cannons aboard U.S. Nimitz class aircraft carriers is for shooting down incoming missles as its range is very short... it purpose is to put up a "wall" of lead between the carrier and the incoming missle. I suppose it could hit aircraft but why would an aircraft be within straffing range of a Capital ship... Deturus guess what it wouldent do you know why? Because a U.S. Nitmiz carrier doesent travel alone (like you in your BS pwnmobile) it is escorted by guided missle destroyers (Arlighlie Burke Class) and at the heart of the air defense netword the Ticonderoga guided missle defense CRUISER... it has missle bays full of a multi use sea to air missle and a highly advanced Ageis Radar and target tracking system, any enemy fighters/bomber get within 100miles of the carrier group and they will have fighters from the carrier on them aswell as the air defense missles from the Destroyers and Cruisers...
............if you read my whole post... did I just shoot down his argument?
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Detaurus
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Posted - 2005.11.18 03:52:00 -
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Edited by: Detaurus on 18/11/2005 03:52:58
it is escorted because it is precious, not because it is weak. I guarantee you an aircraft carrier can eliminate most of the ships in its little armada. And according to the US NAvy(who should know) it IS used as a last ditch anti aircraft platform. Why? because of Kamikaze tactics during WWII
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Detaurus
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Posted - 2005.11.18 03:54:00 -
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Bruce lee had body guards. Mostly to keep people from getting hurt.
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Robstr
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Posted - 2005.11.18 04:13:00 -
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Edited by: Robstr on 18/11/2005 04:13:09
Originally by: Detaurus
Bruce lee had body guards. Mostly to keep people from getting hurt.
WAIT HOLD IT!!!
Your saying the battlegroup is there to keep the carrier from hurting things that don't need to be?!
That makes so much sence my mind exploded.
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xNashx
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Posted - 2005.11.18 04:15:00 -
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No, I don't think Bruce Lee had body guards.
xNashx
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Detaurus
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Posted - 2005.11.18 04:18:00 -
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Originally by: xNashx
No, I don't think Bruce Lee had body guards.
xNashx
Watch Bruce Lee: The Legend in the bruce lee dvd movie collection boxed set
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Rockbox
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Posted - 2005.11.18 05:00:00 -
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The carrier is not weak, but is vounerable it alone can wreak havoc, but also many things could slip past its defenses. Submarines, long range missles, ect. It is also valuable (as you stated) so is your BS in game (as you stated) are you starting to see the coralation.... if not here it is plain and simple, your bs is powerful, it is valuable dont let it be destroyed by stealthy foes surround yourself with an escort. And also I would like to point out we are talking about Battle Ships in game but comparing them to Aircraft Carriers in RL. Now as a proper comparison lets look at the RL battle ship... wait what battle ships the last one in active service (U.S.S. Missouri) was turned into a floating musuem. Hmm why did the battle ships do extinct? Planes with bombs, in the early 20th century there was a demonstration that displayed how a couple cheap planes with a sufficeient amount of the right sized and placed bombs could sink a very expensive warship... it was downhill from there battleships could not track and hit fast moving torpedo and dive bombers (although threw up plenty of flack and did often down planes). Look what happened to the Bismark a WWI eara wooden bi-plane which was horribly outdated with one cheap torpeado took out the pride of the German navys battship's stearing systems (O **** whats that you say!? OMFG RL TACKLE IT CANT GET AWAY!) And so the Bismark effectively disabled unable to leave, sailed in circles and was finished off by some British battleships... imo a good RL example of what a cheap (and oudated) weapon can do to a very high tech, well built, and expensive one..
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Detaurus
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Posted - 2005.11.18 05:18:00 -
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when one of my torpedoes hit, it better blow up.
TomB wont allow it though, and I hate him so, very very much. :)
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Naughty Boy
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Posted - 2005.11.18 05:33:00 -
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Edited by: Naughty Boy on 18/11/2005 05:33:36
Originally by: Detaurus
when one of my torpedoes hit, it better blow up.
I don't think you realize what exactly is happening.
When i shoot at an interceptor orbiting me with my 1400mm artillery, the shot appears to be landing on the interceptor, even though it says that it misses it completely.
When i shoot at it with a cruise missile, it says that I hit it, just for very low damage. It doesn't mean that the cruise missile hits the interceptor right in the hull, like the 1400mm shell apparently does. It means that the interceptor is caught into the blast radius, and takes some damage. What you see doesn't really exist... 
Cry how much you want, torps being the ultimate doom of whatever it could catch is a thing of the past and no amount of your entertaining threads will bring them back.
Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.11.18 06:51:00 -
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they wont be in RMR and if they are well so be it the rest of us are ready to adapt
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.11.18 06:57:00 -
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Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 18/11/2005 07:12:54
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