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Sex Slave Girl
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
68
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Posted - 2013.06.20 17:05:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Sex Slave Girl wrote:Linna Excel wrote:OP's outfit is wrong for a sex slave. Yes, sorry, but the clothes in eve is **** poor. I am like the 24000th female with a red shirt. Also: your boobs!
Is there something wrong with them? Are they to small?
I also have to agree with the cargo scanner, ithe site should despawn after 1 hour when the first can in touched. |
Eeio
Andeby Inc
Darkspawn.
10
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Posted - 2013.06.20 17:17:00 -
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I keep hearing you are supposed to be more people now, when doing exploration, so you get a chance to grab all the cans.
All good, except only 1 guy gets to have "fun" while playing the minigame. The other(s) in the fleet can just sit there and wait until the hack is done.
Thats the actual poor gamedesign right there if you ask me. |
Fa Xian
The Bene Gesserit
Sanctuary Pact
8
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Posted - 2013.06.20 17:24:00 -
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Eeio wrote:I keep hearing you are supposed to be more people now, when doing exploration, so you get a chance to grab all the cans.
That's not true. That's what they say, but it doesn't hold water - almost all the cans are full of valueless junk. Why would I want to get all the cans if they're all full of Carbon?
The "skill" part of the loot spew is the cargo scanner. You scan. You see that there's a blueprint you want. You know that blueprints eject into data cans. So, when you beat the game, you click all the data cans. The skill is in bringing the right modules and knowing what comes in what cans.
If they remove the cargo scanner, it will be less skill needed, more gambling and random. Better to just blow up the site if any can in it is hacked and no one is on grid for a certain amount of time - say 10 minutes. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
428
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Posted - 2013.06.20 17:40:00 -
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Fa Xian wrote: This one is modeled on slot machines at a casino. If you wouldn't play slots, you probably shouldn't play this.
I play the slots. What's nice about them is when I actually win, my winnings fall into the hopper, where I can transfer them to my cup. The slot machine doesn't explode, sending my winnings, mixed with a bunch of random takeout menus, all over hell and gone to vanish if I don't pick it up fast enough.
The rest of your analogy is quite correct; although I would liken the new exploration to a carnival midway more so than a casino.
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Sex Slave Girl
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
68
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Posted - 2013.06.20 17:47:00 -
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Eeio wrote:I keep hearing you are supposed to be more people now, when doing exploration, so you get a chance to grab all the cans.
All good, except only 1 guy gets to have "fun" while playing the minigame. The other(s) in the fleet can just sit there and wait until the hack is done.
Thats the actual poor gamedesign right there if you ask me.
It's actually a clever designed tactic, Most people would buy and get another account to help with looting. |
Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2013.06.20 17:51:00 -
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Sex Slave Girl wrote:
It's actually a clever designed tactic, Most people would buy and get another account to help with looting.
Except they'd have to be operating both accounts simultaneously. Not something that you can get around with alt-tab.
Unless they had two adjacent computers and had a mouse in each hand or something. |
Sex Slave Girl
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
68
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Posted - 2013.06.20 17:58:00 -
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Sal Landry wrote:Sex Slave Girl wrote:
It's actually a clever designed tactic, Most people would buy and get another account to help with looting.
Except they'd have to be operating both accounts simultaneously. Not something that you can get around with alt-tab. Unless they had two adjacent computers and had a mouse in each hand or something.
It's a timing matter, you click the can, it will take 2 seconds to haul it in. Giving you a 2 second time window to switch to the other account and do the same. Just don't grab the same cans. |
baltec1
Bat Country
6960
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Posted - 2013.06.20 18:01:00 -
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Just tried it today and I loved it. |
Fa Xian
The Bene Gesserit
Sanctuary Pact
9
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Posted - 2013.06.20 18:27:00 -
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Sex Slave Girl wrote: Most people would buy and get another account to help with looting.
I don't think it would really get that many new subscriptions. It's junk in the other cans.
Compared to how essential a second account is for mining or for missions, it's just not worth it for exploration. |
Barron Hammerstrike
RISK Inc.
10
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Posted - 2013.06.20 18:59:00 -
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Fa Xian wrote:Barron Hammerstrike wrote:HURRY GRAB YOUR LOOT!! What is this ??
It's a slot machine.
-okay but before that it was a treasure chest waiting to be discovered, opened (with enough skill), and looted. I have nothing against slots, but certainly feel they would fare better in say-- I don't know-- a space station you could walk in maybe?
It's funny how people don't understand what the loot spew is or why it was done. Virtually everything about the exploration re-vamp was intended to make exploration like going to a casino.
-I try to keep up with the dev blogs and haven't read any references to making exploration into space Vegas. I understand what the loot spew is but if I explained it as I've experienced it most of that explanation would be unreadable due to too many expletives.
It's all about luck and payoffs. You look for a system with signatures - find system? Lucky! You scan down the signature - right kind? Lucky! You play the little game to break the core - core broken? Lucky! Loot comes shooting out of the slot - grabbed the right thing? Lucky!
-When wasn't it about luck and payoffs? I dare say all of EVE is about that at some level. There was more luck (and skill) prior to the patch. There was no "Hey here's some hidden stuff!!" alert every time you entered a system. You are not lucky when you "find a system" because almost every system seems to have something.
When probing prior to Odyssey you were definitely lucky if you found a data or hack site, now you just probe by numbers. I don't mind the mini-game-- it has potential, but if I win just allow me to take my goods. If the spew were fun I wouldn't have an issue, but it's not. It's lame. I could get on board with the concept if EVE as a whole had other examples of this mechanic, but it does not and hopefully will not in the future. Why introduce such a frantic and frustrating experience for what amounts to little or no reward? I almost feel like it's PvL (Player versus Loot). In fact that's exactly what it feels like.
This is intended to appeal to a certain type of player experience.
-Clearly.
If you don't like it, you should probably try some other game experience in EVE.
-I used to like it immensely because it actually felt like exploration and to be honest I was more likely to partner up more with other players to find sites prior to the patch, because it was much more of a challenge to find sites. I guess I could just as easily say "If you don't like challenges you should try exploration". Trust me on this one I have tried plenty of experiences in EVE and will continue to do so, but thank you for the unsolicited advice.
This one is modeled on slot machines at a casino. If you wouldn't play slots, you probably shouldn't play this.
-Noted and yes the loot spew is completely random and very slot like which is a shame. The entire experience and process used to be more exploration like.
I play solo because I don't want to wear a headset. |
Fa Xian
The Bene Gesserit
Sanctuary Pact
9
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Posted - 2013.06.20 19:44:00 -
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Barron Hammerstrike wrote:okay but before that it was a treasure chest waiting to be discovered, opened (with enough skill), and looted.
You get nothing but empathy from me. I like the mini-game. I don't care for the loot spew; it was gratuitous at best. I can tolerate the changes that make signatures more obvious in system - that's a necessary evil for turning people onto exploration, apparently. Otherwise, no one would even look at it.
Quote:I try to keep up with the dev blogs and haven't read any references to making exploration into space Vegas.
Do you believe only and exactly what people tell you? Many things happen for one reason and really have a different motive. Go with the facts, not tin hats or press. The system is obviously built to reward players with skills and knowledge, but in a more randomized way. The analogy to a casino is just mine.
Quote:When wasn't it about luck and payoffs?
It is more about luck now. Not that it was never about luck.
Quote:You are not lucky when you "find a system" because almost every system seems to have something.
I find a lot of systems with none. Or does a wormhole count? Nothing but Relic and Data count in my book.
Quote:If the spew were fun I wouldn't have an issue, but it's not. It's lame.
I hear you. There's a subtext to changes recently that try to push more people together more. I suspect that's what they wanted here... but you know what would have been better? Let us add up virus strength. If you and I are in the site and we both use our Analyzer on the same thing, then the virus in the minigame is +10 strength.
People would be exploring in fleets. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
865
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:14:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Just tried it today and I loved it.
What a liar 
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