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Jeffrey Asher
Bunne
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Posted - 2013.06.21 05:55:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:And yeah, this thread isn't actually about drones at all. The subtleties are going over my head due to my newness. Could you please enlighten me as to the hidden, or perhaps not so hidden to those who know, meaning?
regards, |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly
736
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Posted - 2013.06.21 05:58:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:CCP should change the way the "Drones" skill works.
Set the base number of drones controllable to 5.
Have the skill just increase the damage by 20% per level.
It really feels bad to be a low SP player in a fleet with older players and only being able to launch two drones.
This is an emotional crisis for many new players.
GTFO
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Stinglock Sigma
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.21 07:24:00 -
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NOU
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
441
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Posted - 2013.06.21 08:08:00 -
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Jeffrey Asher wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:And yeah, this thread isn't actually about drones at all. The subtleties are going over my head due to my newness. Could you please enlighten me as to the hidden, or perhaps not so hidden to those who know, meaning? regards,
OP is incredibly angry that they took Nestle's Crunch bars out of the vending machine at school.
This post isn't about everyone needing 5 drones. It's about everyone needing free candy bars. Rifterlings Corporation is now recruiting pilots for faction warfare solo & small gang frigate PvP. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
5615
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Posted - 2013.06.21 08:23:00 -
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Jeffrey Asher wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:And yeah, this thread isn't actually about drones at all. The subtleties are going over my head due to my newness. Could you please enlighten me as to the hidden, or perhaps not so hidden to those who know, meaning? regards, I'm awful with sarcasm. I think you're being sarcastic, so chances are you actually aren't. But I'll take that chance. -áMy (mostly boring) Youtube channel. |
Charlie Jacobson
214
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Posted - 2013.06.21 08:41:00 -
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I've had drones 5 on trial accounts. What's the problem? Most frigates can't even fit 5 drones, and frigates are what you're supposed to be flying as a new player.
EDIT: Why do you troll me like this, op? imad. |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
384
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Posted - 2013.06.21 08:57:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:
This is an emotional crisis for many new players.
LOL! |
Marmaduke Hatplate
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.06.21 10:05:00 -
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New player here, love drones, wish I could name them (though I also realise that's not far off being as pointless as naming my bullets lol), and I am currently just 5 short hours away from Drones 5. Yes, 3 days ago I thought 'hm, I'd better start thinking about my long-term drone prospects.
Now when I look back across the mists of antiquity to the halcyon times of, er, Tuesday, I wish I could let that bright-eyed youngster meet the stooped veteran of today and congratulate him on his fsr-sightedness. That mature-beyond-his-years rookie of the day before the day before yesterday made an investment, and three whole days later, it is paying off.
Drones 5. You gotta play the Long Game.
In 6 hours, I will start Drone Interface training, and enter my cryogenics chamber to wait until the sun dies, or next month, whichever comes sooner. |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2013.06.21 10:09:00 -
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Quote:New Players left out. Drones V is unfair.
No one ever promised that EVE was going to be fair. The odds are stacked against you, and you have to train to overcome them.
The Drones skill has functioned this way for the last decade. Training it to V like everyone else will enable people to field 5 drones.
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AlphaOperative Altren
Alternative Rendition
8
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Posted - 2013.06.21 10:13:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:This is an emotional crisis for many new players.
This line makes me happy |
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Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
581
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Posted - 2013.06.21 10:16:00 -
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Invisusira wrote:5 days of training is literally nothing. Or you know, literally 5 days. Figuratively 0 maybe. |
Daimon Kaiera
Kraken.
324
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Posted - 2013.06.21 11:13:00 -
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Black Dranzer wrote:Invisusira wrote:5 days of training is literally nothing. No, 5 days of training is literally 5 days of training.
The first rule of tautology club is the first rule. .... . .-.. .--. / .. / .... .- ...- . / ..-. .- .-.. .-.. . -. / .- -. -.. / .. / -.-. .- -. -. --- - / --. . - / ..- .--. / ... - --- .--. - .... .. ... / ... .. --. -. .- - ..- .-. . / .. -.. . .- / .. ... / -. --- - / ... - --- .-.. . -. / ... - --- .--. |
Anariana
Something Brought Forth
44
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Posted - 2013.06.21 11:22:00 -
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new players should clearly be able to do, fly and use anything that vets can... |
Schmata Bastanold
Keep It Burning Stupid
850
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Posted - 2013.06.21 11:23:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Quote:New Players left out. Drones V is unfair. No one ever promised that EVE was going to be fair. The odds are stacked against you, and you have to train to overcome them. The Drones skill has functioned this way for the last decade. Training it to V like everyone else will enable people to field 5 drones.
I will state the obvious to you and point out being able to field full set of probes also required training one particular skill to V. But here we are in post Odyssey New Eden where everybody can launch 8 probes. And all at one launcher cycle. And in one of two predefined configs. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Lost True
Paradise project
2341
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Posted - 2013.06.21 11:26:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:CCP should change the way the "Drones" skill works.
Set the base number of drones controllable to 5.
Have the skill just increase the damage by 20% per level.
It really feels bad to be a low SP player in a fleet with older players and only being able to launch two drones.
This is an emotional crisis for many new players. So it's so hard for you to train DRONES to V. Oh you poor little baby... do you consider other games? Space Invaders, maybe? in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?
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Bl4ck Ph03n1x
Gangsters And Gentlemen Silent Ascension
40
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Posted - 2013.06.21 11:48:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Quote:New Players left out. Drones V is unfair. No one ever promised that EVE was going to be fair. The odds are stacked against you, and you have to train to overcome them. The Drones skill has functioned this way for the last decade. Training it to V like everyone else will enable people to field 5 drones.
There is a slight unbalance, though. A missile, laser, hybrid or projectile pilot can field all his guns at pew pew lvl1 A gallentean/ammar drone pilot need an additional skill to 5 to do the same.
But then we all know drones are broken for the last decade. Maybe, one day, a drone expansion...? Don't feed the trolls. |
Zag'mar Jurkar
Carbon Technology
16
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Posted - 2013.06.21 11:57:00 -
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Hannott Thanos wrote:Invisusira wrote:5 days of training is literally nothing. Or you know, literally 5 days. Figuratively 0 maybe.
Maybe we could say "relatively 5 days is nothing" |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
1144
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Posted - 2013.06.21 12:02:00 -
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This is one of the best ballanced skills imo.
3 drones in a matter of hours, 4 next time you log in then a few days on intense excitement for your 5th
we all did it.
suck it up.
damned newbs want everything on day one, go back to your grinding for XP games if you cant handle a little patience Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
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vyshnegradsky
Pompeii Syndicate No Safe Haven
107
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Posted - 2013.06.21 12:12:00 -
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Read the first letter of each line except for the first. Also - posting in a bad thread This one's a bit over the edge guys.
Locked for breaking... well, pretty much all the rules.
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Eli Green
The Arrow Project
699
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Posted - 2013.06.21 12:13:00 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Posting in a stealth "bitching about scan skill changes" thread.
quoting for great justice. wumbo |
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stoicfaux
2833
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Posted - 2013.06.21 12:17:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Quote:New Players left out. Drones V is unfair. No one ever promised that EVE was going to be fair. The odds are stacked against you, and you have to train to overcome them. The Drones skill has functioned this way for the last decade. Training it to V like everyone else will enable people to field 5 drones.
You don't understand what the OP is stating. Here's a hint: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/10/schwarzenegger/
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Dave Stark
3196
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Posted - 2013.06.21 12:22:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Quote:New Players left out. Drones V is unfair. No one ever promised that EVE was going to be fair. The odds are stacked against you, and you have to train to overcome them. The Drones skill has functioned this way for the last decade. Training it to V like everyone else will enable people to field 5 drones. You don't understand what the OP is stating. Here's a hint: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/10/schwarzenegger/
that's actually quite brilliant, i like it. |
Donnero
Belt Club
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Posted - 2013.06.21 12:32:00 -
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Hmm can we get Drones VI ? |
Dave Stark
3198
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Posted - 2013.06.21 12:34:00 -
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Donnero wrote:Hmm can we get Drones VI ?
it's called "drone interfacing I" i think. |
stoicfaux
2834
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Posted - 2013.06.21 12:35:00 -
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Donnero wrote:Hmm can we get Drones VI ? Now there's an idea! One that should be presented to the CSM.
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Laserak
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.06.21 12:41:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:This is an emotional crisis for many new players.
You're gonna have a nervous breakdown when you get to the 72 day skills
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Jame Jarl Retief
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
1163
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Posted - 2013.06.21 12:42:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Quote:New Players left out. Drones V is unfair. No one ever promised that EVE was going to be fair. The odds are stacked against you, and you have to train to overcome them. The Drones skill has functioned this way for the last decade. Training it to V like everyone else will enable people to field 5 drones.
The question you gotta ask yourself is "is this a good design choice, how does this make the game better, especially since this mostly affects new players, and especially since we've just introduced a T1 frigate that requires 5 drones to function?" How is it a good thing, for a new player, to be told, after purchasing a Tristan, "sorry, but you have to wait a week before you can actually use this". Will this help the player stay in the game, or will it make him say "a week? don't think so, bye!", especially since most people trying EVE will be doing so on a 14-day trial. Drones V is one of those skills that does lots of harm to new players, and has no measurable benefit, aside from being there for conformity's sake. I trained this skill many years ago, and I STILL remember the annoyance of having had to do so.
Also, "it's been this way for a decade, so there's no need to change it" is not necessarily right. Perhaps it's time to update certain things. This is one of the skills eminently ready for updating. Along with drones in general, which have been ridiculously broken for a very, very long time. |
Jeffrey Asher
Bunne
0
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Posted - 2013.06.21 12:49:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Jeffrey Asher wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:And yeah, this thread isn't actually about drones at all. The subtleties are going over my head due to my newness. Could you please enlighten me as to the hidden, or perhaps not so hidden to those who know, meaning? regards, I'm awful with sarcasm. I think you're being sarcastic, so chances are you actually aren't. But I'll take that chance.
I wasn't sorry about that. I was just too long-winded, and I could see how you could read that as sarcasm.
I was just wondering whether there was an in-joke that I had not worked out yet in post.
cheers |
Felicity Love
STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate
697
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Posted - 2013.06.21 12:50:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:CCP should change the way the "Drones" skill works.
Set the base number of drones controllable to 5.
Have the skill just increase the damage by 20% per level.
It really feels bad to be a low SP player in a fleet with older players and only being able to launch two drones.
This is an emotional crisis for many new players.
I've always said, CCP should just allow people to buy Skill Points with PLEX.
That way, "low SP players" are forced to spend 100's of Dollars/Euros/Pesos to jump right in with absolutely NO CLUE of what they are doing.
Pure winsauce for everyone.
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Dave Stark
3202
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Posted - 2013.06.21 12:52:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:Skill Training Online wrote:CCP should change the way the "Drones" skill works.
Set the base number of drones controllable to 5.
Have the skill just increase the damage by 20% per level.
It really feels bad to be a low SP player in a fleet with older players and only being able to launch two drones.
This is an emotional crisis for many new players. I've always said, CCP should just allow people to buy Skill Points with PLEX. That way, "low SP players" are forced to spend 100's of Dollars/Euros/Pesos to jump right in with absolutely NO CLUE of what they are doing. Pure winsauce for everyone.
i'd actually buy plex to do this... especially for all those prerequisites that aren't ideal to train on my current remap. (looking at you propulsion jamming!) |
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