CCP should change the way the "Drones" skill works.

Set the base number of drones controllable to 5.

Have the skill just increase the damage by 20% per level.

It really feels bad to be a low SP player in a fleet with older players and only being able to launch two drones.


This is an emotional crisis for many new players.

How about this, i was away from eve for a while and misread "Advanced Drone Interfacing". So, thinking id be able to field more i trained up. After a few weeks getting the skill up to 4, i came back to find it only works on carriers etc.

Eve doesnt forgive idiocy, a lesson i certainly learnt!

No one ever promised that EVE was going to be fair. The odds are stacked against you, and you have to train to overcome them.

The Drones skill has functioned this way for the last decade. Training it to V like everyone else will enable people to field 5 drones.

No one ever promised that EVE was going to be fair. The odds are stacked against you, and you have to train to overcome them.

The Drones skill has functioned this way for the last decade. Training it to V like everyone else will enable people to field 5 drones.

No one ever promised that EVE was going to be fair. The odds are stacked against you, and you have to train to overcome them.

The Drones skill has functioned this way for the last decade. Training it to V like everyone else will enable people to field 5 drones.

CCP should change the way the "Drones" skill works.

Set the base number of drones controllable to 5.

Have the skill just increase the damage by 20% per level.

It really feels bad to be a low SP player in a fleet with older players and only being able to launch two drones.


This is an emotional crisis for many new players.

Hi,

Can CCP please add levels to all skills!

I'm not a happy bunny that young players can reach level 5 after just a few weeks and i have no option to get higher than them.

I think 80 would be a good number. Give the little scrotes something to winge about.

Thanks and much love,

Alpha

It's not an emotional crisis, I've been playing for a month and prioritized getting Drones 5 trained early so I could use 5 drones at once. Why not just give everyone medium guns and racial cruiser as well from the start, so we can use a cruiser straight away and aren't scarred forever?

Drone envy is not pretty.

This is an emotional crisis

CCP should change the way the "Drones" skill works.

Set the base number of drones controllable to 5.

Have the skill just increase the damage by 20% per level.

It really feels bad to be a low SP player in a fleet with older players and only being able to launch two drones.


This is an emotional crisis for many new players.

New player here, love drones, wish I could name them (though I also realise that's not far off being as pointless as naming my bullets lol), and I am currently just 5 short hours away from Drones 5. Yes, 3 days ago I thought 'hm, I'd better start thinking about my long-term drone prospects.

Now when I look back across the mists of antiquity to the halcyon times of, er, Tuesday, I wish I could let that bright-eyed youngster meet the stooped veteran of today and congratulate him on his fsr-sightedness. That mature-beyond-his-years rookie of the day before the day before yesterday made an investment, and three whole days later, it is paying off.

Drones 5. You gotta play the Long Game.

In 6 hours, I will start Drone Interface training, and enter my cryogenics chamber to wait until the sun dies, or next month, whichever comes sooner.

There is a slight unbalance, though. A missile, laser, hybrid or projectile pilot can field all his guns at pew pew lvl1
A gallentean/ammar drone pilot need an additional skill to 5 to do the same.

But then we all know drones are broken for the last decade. Maybe, one day, a drone expansion...?

The question you gotta ask yourself is "is this a good design choice, how does this make the game better, especially since this mostly affects new players, and especially since we've just introduced a T1 frigate that requires 5 drones to function?" How is it a good thing, for a new player, to be told, after purchasing a Tristan, "sorry, but you have to wait a week before you can actually use this". Will this help the player stay in the game, or will it make him say "a week? don't think so, bye!", especially since most people trying EVE will be doing so on a 14-day trial. Drones V is one of those skills that does lots of harm to new players, and has no measurable benefit, aside from being there for conformity's sake. I trained this skill many years ago, and I STILL remember the annoyance of having had to do so.

Also, "it's been this way for a decade, so there's no need to change it" is not necessarily right. Perhaps it's time to update certain things. This is one of the skills eminently ready for updating. Along with drones in general, which have been ridiculously broken for a very, very long time.

i'd actually buy plex to do this... especially for all those prerequisites that aren't ideal to train on my current remap. (looking at you propulsion jamming!)

Clubbing baby seals makes you happy too

3=1+2
They are clever and willing to learn EVE, and pay enough gametime to learn enough skill.

So my key question is:
Should EVE keep going on as a crazy toy for only a small group of people, or have some changes to welcome more potential players and make the game more colorful.

Those people you mentioned are only a small group of all potential players of EVE. Most players love sci-fic and pvp, and they are clever or willing to pay, but they don't have the responsibility to stay in this game and learn how to fight back those have unfair advantages. For most of them, they will just choose to play another game, just because they can have more fun in those game.

A game is a game. Forcing oneself to adapt to an unfair game mechanism is not playing a game, but being played by a game. If one is so strong then he should fufill his goal in real world, not to waste time playing games.

I don't think people remember quite how fun it can be to simply get some t1 fitted t1 frigates and just go on a roam.

You don't NEED skills to have fun. Skills only allow more options.

Whether you have 1mil sp, 10mil sp or 100mil sp, if you aren't having fun, you aren't doing it right.

Man, were are missing out , we should get some of them irresponsible/impatient instant gratification kids up in here so EVE can be beautiful like the rest of gaming.....

Sarcasm aside, a REAL EVE player is someone who likes a CHALLENGE. Like how Goons came in, saw the established order and said "to hell with that" and toppled them......only to become the Established order themselves lol. But thats another thread

To tell you the truth is, I know it, and I did learn how to pvp using t1 frig in FW and won some fights.

But soon I know what upsets me:
PVP in EVE is like "Warping online", especially for solo player.

Fly a frig in lowsec and you spend 30 mins and you find nothing but teams you can't defeat by yourself or some other solo players that keep escaping. Then you finally get someone that's willing to have a fight, but you fail and explode, then you have to spend another 30 mins to warp to a trade hub or your corp home to fit another ship and repeat playing warping online again.

And many nullsec-ers are complaining that CTA is just a process like this : spend 1 hours to do 30 jumps, shoot, explode, spend another hour to jump back home or speed it up by exploding you pod :).

That's why I saw a thread complaining someone can use micro-warp + stealth to escape from gate camp easily, just because they keep waiting for hours and find few things to shoot.




Keep warping in EVE or suiside to shoot someone you can't defeat is not CHALLENGE, but it's too common in EVE. That's all I want to talk about.

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Or you just show you don't know how it hurts players. Everything in EVE has functioned for a decade and you don't even need to have expansions because nothing need to be changed.

Keep Drones V like what it is now has no obivious adavantages. A caracal without Missile Ops V can run well. But you won't even want to use a vexor without Drone V to do LV2 missions because you loose more dps than caracal just because a T1 skills. It's obiviously discouraging newbie to choose what he want to fly freely.

So tell me why not make a little change to make it more funny for a newbie, or CCP don't care newbie? @CCP Falcon

Or do one better... let's give everyone a free BC! I welcome you, the Gnosis!!

I used a Vexor to start lvl 2 missions with Drone 3, and it was harder and I lost a Vexor on one mission. I had a bunch of fun losing that and learned a lot, came back to the mission with a much better kitted Vexor and finished it, and trained Drone 5 and DI 3 since. Lvl 2 missions are much easier now and just as much fun because I had to level up to it.

Maybe I haven't been around long enough to see that anything is broken, but the game to me is a whole bunch of fun exactly the way it is, it wouldn't keep me coming back if everything was handed to me on a plate when I started.

Personally I don't see a change needing to be made, from a newbie perspective. If you change the game to make everybody who starts playing it happy it would be the most boring game ever made, I would hope some people start it, hate it and move on to something else.

1. So CCP should remove Caracal because it makes it too easy to farm LV2 mission and makes the game dull.

2. Challenge should be set by good game design, not by some skill training related traps.

3.I admire you that you try to overcome a mission by changing fit. And this is what I called a good game design and makes the game looks smart.