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Ulynidd

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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:25:00 -
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We are experiencing a number of node deaths due to optimization hotfixed deployed in today's downtime.
We're on the mother.
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Jonkai
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:26:00 -
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Good to hear and thanks for the post :)
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Mis FLy
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:26:00 -
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was wondering why the market wouldn't load and took 5minutes to dock lol .. thanks for the update ulynidd much appriciated
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ulynidd We are experiencing a number of node deaths due to optimization hotfixed deployed in today's downtime.
We're on the mother.
You go, girl.
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Great Artista
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:27:00 -
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M'kay... So how long i have to wait? -------------
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:27:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 22/11/2005 19:29:49 So like, same hotfix that fuxed the server last time in an identical way by chance ?
*sigh*
Why do we have crappy stuff like this every other day now yet never had it a year ago ?
edit: oh, and no, lack of foresight is no excuse. Poor performance on CCP's part this whole lag/node/proxy debacle of the last half year tbh. _______________________________________________
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Nyobe
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:28:00 -
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i LOVE it
since over ONE HOUR i want to kill this LOVELY final drone on rogue drone harassment.
Last time the drone was on 40% hull and i lost connection (4th time)
now i can't login since 20 minutes. Wonderful it makes so much fun
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Dufas
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:29:00 -
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These hot'fixes' seem to be causing more problems then they fixing...wtf....TO THE TEST SERVER BATMAN!!! __________
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Emily Spankratchet
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:30:00 -
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Edited by: Emily Spankratchet on 22/11/2005 19:31:01 Many thanks for the prompt info.
Nice to see that the hotfixes are still working so well. 
(No fair starting a new thread, though, I was hoping my thread would become the 'official' server problem whine thread. )
(Edit: Yay! My original whine has been stickied. Go Kieron!)
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Kunming
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:30:00 -
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Shouldnt be optimazation something positive?
Seriously though these hotfixes lately have been messing up the server big time, maybe the devs should test them on a mini model of TQ first to be sure.. thats at least what I would have done.
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Gray Carmicheal
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kunming Shouldnt be optimazation something positive?
Seriously though these hotfixes lately have been messing up the server big time, maybe the devs should test them on a mini model of TQ first to be sure.. thats at least what I would have done.
I don't work for any MMOs (currently), but I would imagine they do that very thing indeed, before releasing it to the public.
I recall SOE once released a PS patch that was borked and messed up some people's login clients. Complete reinstall/repatching. Some people had to do it repeatedly, as it is rumored. (Was before my time in PS) ________________ SPACE FOR RENT Inquire Ingame |

Laocoon
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:33:00 -
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wow first post is from ISD 
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^^ i collect heads 
Originally by: Oveur Jesus Christ. The Freighter ate the Stargate god and the Dreadnoug
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Nyobe
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:34:00 -
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Just don't let the trainee code the hotfixes
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine So like, same hotfix that fuxed the server last time in an identical way by chance ?
Of greater concern to me is that these hotfuxes are deployed with no documentation anywhere as to what they're supposed to be fixing. I've said it before in that last hotfix thread that fell off the front page of the forums, the patch notes, in their current implementation and upkeep, are completely useless.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:35:00 -
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Well yeah, they test em obviously, why otherwise have a quality assurance guy unless he can at least attempt to assure quality 
Anyways, never mind my earlier whine, but i decided to resub for another 3 months recently yet wonder if by that time this game will be playable at all :/ _______________________________________________
Power to the players !
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Gray Carmicheal
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine Well yeah, they test em obviously, why otherwise have a quality assurance guy unless he can at least attempt to assure quality 
Anyways, never mind my earlier whine, but i decided to resub for another 3 months recently yet wonder if by that time this game will be playable at all :/
Can't be as bad as some games, like PS, where the lag (and Client-Side hit detection) kill you before you even see the guy. Or when you get a whopping 6 FPS just for being on the same MAP as the major fighting (read: only fight).
Nah, I don't miss it one bit.   ________________ SPACE FOR RENT Inquire Ingame |

Inimical Chimera
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kunming Seriously though these hotfixes lately have been messing up the server big time, maybe the devs should test them on a mini model of TQ first to be sure.. thats at least what I would have done.
Well nobody has noticed any problems playing this afternoon on TQ, which means it must be a problem that only kicks in under heavy load. How exactly would you propose testing this?
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Gigi Barbagrigia
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kunming Shouldnt be optimazation something positive?
One could say lag got very optimized  ----- 42 |

Randay
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:39:00 -
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AdamC
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:41:00 -
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Its the market thats broke for me 
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Inimical Chimera
Originally by: Kunming Seriously though these hotfixes lately have been messing up the server big time, maybe the devs should test them on a mini model of TQ first to be sure.. thats at least what I would have done.
Well nobody has noticed any problems playing this afternoon on TQ, which means it must be a problem that only kicks in under heavy load. How exactly would you propose testing this?
One would think that CCP could write a test script to load 3000 clients onto their test node and start doing random things to simulate server load like warping and shooting stuff.
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Gray Carmicheal
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Inimical Chimera
Originally by: Kunming Seriously though these hotfixes lately have been messing up the server big time, maybe the devs should test them on a mini model of TQ first to be sure.. thats at least what I would have done.
Well nobody has noticed any problems playing this afternoon on TQ, which means it must be a problem that only kicks in under heavy load. How exactly would you propose testing this?
One would think that CCP could write a test script to load 3000 clients onto their test node and start doing random things to simulate server load like warping and shooting stuff.
Yeah, but even then, they can't truly simulate the game with bots, because bots (for example) wouldn't move around and pull the stunts we do. And even still, I think the LOWEST in-game pop I've ever seen after pulling a good 20 hour day was 2600. And I was switching between 3 account clients (my comp only handles 2 at once) so much logging in/out. ________________ SPACE FOR RENT Inquire Ingame |

Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:46:00 -
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hehe, Im glad to hear CCP is working on this. because i coulnt undock or read my mails, and i kept crashing [:cr
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Jaik Jermaine
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:47:00 -
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kieron said we are gonna try to remove the hotfix with a reboot, for godsakes its the holidays here in the states, forget trying to keep the server up. just reboot and restore asap
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scorchio
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:48:00 -
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line up the QA and let the firing squad do their job :/
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Imaran

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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ulynidd We are experiencing a number of node deaths due to optimization hotfixed deployed in today's downtime.
We're on the mother.
Rawr!

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Jaik Jermaine
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:54:00 -
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i think there is a CCP conspiracy to get us to log onto SiSi
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TRWOB CEO
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:54:00 -
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Yet again the sever have problems! When are thes problems going to be found on the TEST SERVER, and not tried and tested on Tranquility Server! These bugs should NEVER find there way onto the main server.
Currently have 1 stuck Character and no market for the other! We all no a reboot is coming, so please just fix and do it asap :)
Thanks, another unsatisfied paying customer
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Turaya
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ulynidd We are experiencing a number of node deaths due to optimization hotfixed deployed in today's downtime.
We're on the mother.
I appologize for the question....i was in a hurry...and i haven t seen this...Thx
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:56:00 -
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Edited by: Bhaal on 22/11/2005 19:56:07 I can log into the game just fine, so obviously there is no problem.
You are all delusional.
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Gray Carmicheal
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: TRWOB CEO Yet again the sever have problems! When are thes problems going to be found on the TEST SERVER, and not tried and tested on Tranquility Server! These bugs should NEVER find there way onto the main server.
Currently have 1 stuck Character and no market for the other! We all no a reboot is coming, so please just fix and do it asap :)
Thanks, another unsatisfied paying customer
If you're really that unhappy, quit. /shrug.
I'm sure the majority of the fanbase - all who are suffering the game thing - wouldn't miss you, and I'm sure CCP wouldn't notice. ________________ <- Hates Whiners and people with generally crappy attitudes. Does not play well with morons. |

Celestus
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Ulynidd We are experiencing a number of node deaths due to optimization hotfixed deployed in today's downtime.
We're on the mother.
I called my internet service provider...I asked him to do something in order not to kill him!!! 
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Niki Silver
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:59:00 -
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CCP Its been almost 12 hours since the downtime and you still havn't figured it out. Would you please just remove the god damn hotfix so we can play? Thanks
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Captain Powers
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:03:00 -
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I just made a market selling of Isogen I had in my Ferox. I accepted the buying price of 131.00 isk per unit with a smile on my face. Imagine how my face looked when a message of the markget being rebooted flashed and I watched my hard earned Isogen just disappear and nothing was deposited in my account.
Ok, so I try to petition in the game. Then I learn after getting a message after petitioning of SOMETHING WENT WRONG. Great, looks like this must be rocket science after all.
Then my ship takes like 3 minutes to undock. I fly back 7 jumps to my mining area and the market is truely down. Ok, so I can't do anything in the market, time to change ships and go rat hunting. So I dock, change ships and try to undock and get, for 5 minutes, just a black screen with the music playing. I hit ctrl - q and exit out.
I log back into the game with the ship in space, cool, things might be ok now. Get to the stargate and my ship runs into the starget ( Literally ) and I hear "warping" 3 times.
If you hear a strange sound in the far distance, just relax, it's just me beating my head against my desk.
I just work as a system engineer and I truely enjoy reading how CCP has placed several "hotfixs" up and they just blow up in their faces. Looks like they need to find new QA folks.
I hope CCP will relieze that if you waste folks time, you'll just loose customers. I have no idea how many customers are from the united states but if it is sizeable, please, never, never place large changes around the holidays. You'll just **** players off.
I hope they are rolling back the hotfixes as I type. I suppose I'm out of time and effort with my mining efforts for today. Great game CCP...
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Gray Carmicheal
Originally by: TRWOB CEO Yet again the sever have problems! When are thes problems going to be found on the TEST SERVER, and not tried and tested on Tranquility Server! These bugs should NEVER find there way onto the main server.
Currently have 1 stuck Character and no market for the other! We all no a reboot is coming, so please just fix and do it asap :)
Thanks, another unsatisfied paying customer
If you're really that unhappy, quit. /shrug.
I'm sure the majority of the fanbase - all who are suffering the game thing - wouldn't miss you, and I'm sure CCP wouldn't notice.
Gray thats not constructive critisime and i really hope that ccp dont think like you. The man is right however in the last 8 months server props/ lag issues has gone from bad to worse. There is something broken in the state of island it seems.
A few sugestions:
1. stop getting more people on trial account for the moment. 2. maybe stop putting resources on new mods/ships etc and use them on the coding/servers etc 3. MORE POWER buy the biggest meanest super computer you can get you hands on and then connect it to a nuclear power plant and light it up  
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Jaik Jermaine
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:06:00 -
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still trying to log on unsuccessfully
cmon CCP i cant afford the space to put test server on my machine
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Officer Dibble
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:08:00 -
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Lets See ....
You know the current "Maximum Users"
You know the "current system bottlenecks and resource overheads"
And you still can't deploy a patch without putting us back 3 years .... wots that word ..... ahh testing ....
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kunming Shouldnt be optimazation something positive?
Seriously though these hotfixes lately have been messing up the server big time, maybe the devs should test them on a mini model of TQ first to be sure.. thats at least what I would have done.
Originally by: Officer Dibble Lets See ....
You know the current "Maximum Users"
You know the "current system bottlenecks and resource overheads"
And you still can't deploy a patch without putting us back 3 years .... wots that word ..... ahh testing ....
Actually guys, I'm pretty certain they _do_ test stuff. Problem is when you start doing code optimization, it's very often the case that it doesn't have a noticable impact until it's 'under load'.
And unfortunately, 'under load' is a state you only get on Tranquility.
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Jonkai
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Gray Carmicheal
Originally by: TRWOB CEO Yet again the sever have problems! When are thes problems going to be found on the TEST SERVER, and not tried and tested on Tranquility Server! These bugs should NEVER find there way onto the main server.
Currently have 1 stuck Character and no market for the other! We all no a reboot is coming, so please just fix and do it asap :)
Thanks, another unsatisfied paying customer
If you're really that unhappy, quit. /shrug.
I'm sure the majority of the fanbase - all who are suffering the game thing - wouldn't miss you, and I'm sure CCP wouldn't notice.
Two trolling posts in a row, in two seperate threads.
He is ****ed with the game that 'he' pays for.
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Great Artista
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:16:00 -
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SO NOBODY KNOWS HOW LONG MY EVE(NING) IS GONNA BE RUINED?
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Turaya
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: Gray Carmicheal
Originally by: TRWOB CEO Yet again the sever have problems! When are thes problems going to be found on the TEST SERVER, and not tried and tested on Tranquility Server! These bugs should NEVER find there way onto the main server.
Currently have 1 stuck Character and no market for the other! We all no a reboot is coming, so please just fix and do it asap :)
Thanks, another unsatisfied paying customer
If you're really that unhappy, quit. /shrug.
I'm sure the majority of the fanbase - all who are suffering the game thing - wouldn't miss you, and I'm sure CCP wouldn't notice.
Gray thats not constructive critisime and i really hope that ccp dont think like you. The man is right however in the last 8 months server props/ lag issues has gone from bad to worse. There is something broken in the state of island it seems.
A few sugestions:
1. stop getting more people on trial account for the moment. 2. maybe stop putting resources on new mods/ships etc and use them on the coding/servers etc 3. MORE POWER buy the biggest meanest super computer you can get you hands on and then connect it to a nuclear power plant and light it up  
  A perfect answer!!!!!  
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Gray Carmicheal
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:17:00 -
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Lunas-
I agree with you, the issue IS indeed, an issue that needs to be fixed, but it's not half as bad for EVe (which has a HUGE playerbase) as it is for games with smaller player pops, more servers, and "better"/bigger companies behind them *coughSOEcough*
My point is, everyone running to the forums screaming "OMG OMG Go die!" really isn't constructive or helpful either, it's something that everything involving communications deals with sometimes. I know when we implement changes here at work (Why I'm forumwh**ing so much), they do NOT go over well for at least a month, and we have gear down on a pretty consistent basis. Granted it gets fixed (it's our job), but still. Electronics don't like changes for some reason.
Not to mention it seems like CCP is still using the original servers from release, which must be, what, 5 or 6 years old? Granted, that's on them to fix, but they've stated they're in the process of doing it.
Needless to say, since I got off point, the "You suck CCP" crap doesn't help. Everyone is suffering the same (me moreso, I'm stuck at work. :/), so why complain like it's only you (and by you I mean those screaming and ranting).
And yeah, I did sound a bit harsh there. A bit of my SOE Victim side kicked in. That's a heartless Gray. :P ________________ <- Hates Whiners and people with generally crappy attitudes. Does not play well with morons. |

Jonkai
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:17:00 -
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Bah and my skill training has just finished... dammit 
Notice that more people are logged in now than an hour ago.
/crosses fingers
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Mrs Meikel
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:17:00 -
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I lost my 2000 crokite :(
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Turaya
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Mrs Meikel I lost my 2000 crokite :(
i paid 9 mil for a shuttle :( there are idiots who put huge prices for nothing...an my cousin thought ..that he did something for me!   
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Truls Titan
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:22:00 -
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I wonder why I got this message:- 2005.11.22 20:16:34infoThe transportID does not identify a known transport every 2 mins or so and I am not doing any think as I watch somethink on tv.
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Gray Carmicheal
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Turaya
Originally by: Mrs Meikel I lost my 2000 crokite :(
i paid 9 mil for a shuttle :( there are idiots who put huge prices for nothing...an my cousin thought ..that he did something for me!   
Ouch. Pwnt, seriously. ________________ <- Hates Whiners and people with generally crappy attitudes. Does not play well with morons. |

Cookie
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:24:00 -
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hmm, i kinda seriously doubt halving the numbers of drones will fix that 
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Officer Dibble
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:25:00 -
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Edited by: Officer Dibble on 22/11/2005 20:26:11
Quote: Actually guys, I'm pretty certain they _do_ test stuff. Problem is when you start doing code optimization, it's very often the case that it doesn't have a noticable impact until it's 'under load'.
And unfortunately, 'under load' is a state you only get on Tranquility.
How about, and this is something no one may have come up with before .. put the patches on the test server we can all log into without wiping out the entire game and going ... opps ...
I don't care whats happening in 6 months if the game is unplayable now ...
There is no excuses ..... either correct you patching procdure to the live servers or change it to a two step intergration ...
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Jaik Jermaine
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:26:00 -
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reboot the server and remove the hotfix. DONT THINK, JUST DO IT
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Turaya
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Gray Carmicheal
Originally by: Turaya
Originally by: Mrs Meikel I lost my 2000 crokite :(
i paid 9 mil for a shuttle :( there are idiots who put huge prices for nothing...an my cousin thought ..that he did something for me!   
Ouch. Pwnt, seriously.
trust me....i worked with a level 2 agent for that money a lot....i am still hurting the little one 
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MajiiK
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:27:00 -
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wat a day. First off, I finally can afford/fly an osprey (wich was my main goal the three weeks Ive played)
got ot from some nice guys In the corp I tried applying for, wich sounded like an amazing corp with decent ppl wel within my point of interests.
Then it starts. I use forever to get to my mining op in my newly bought osprey- to much lag/wierd bugs going on.
While struggeling to get there, the corp I applied for told me that I was to suspecious to let into the corp (after two days of appling/screenshots of all i had etc journals/wallet) simply, it turns out its because I joined a fresh corporation started 12 days ago. So I respect their decision if they do think Im a risk bcause of that making me an "obvious alt?!?!?!?"
Then shortly after being notified on the decision, Im booted off the server, and canot log in at all with my chars. Betya Ill lose the osprey the kind member of that corp sold me for a NICE price I could afford, along with the nice decent cargo expanders he threw in for free.
even more, Ill bet you now that my application are turned down on being to high a "risk", I wont be able to buy it once more if it is indeed lost.
assumptience aside - - pls mr. dev's, fix it quick?!?
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SportBilly
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:28:00 -
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I'm afraid that although I'm sure CCP are doing their best to rectify the current problems, the fact remains that we are all paying to play this game. This fact alone entitles us to be able to complain when what we are paying for either isn't available or is in such a poor state that it is, in effect, unavailable.
I really don't like complaining about this current situation but its the latest in a long line of problems and I'm starting to feel like a beta tester.
If its a hardware thing then get some new stuff in that can cope with the load. If its a code problem then find some way of effectively testing before rolling it out.
Every month many organisations take their little cut of my salary for the service they provide to me - the difference is that when I turn on my light or when I turn on my tap or when I turn on my heater they all work...all the time. Now, when I try to log onto EVE...
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: SportBilly I'm afraid that although I'm sure CCP are doing their best to rectify the current problems, the fact remains that we are all paying to play this game. This fact alone entitles us to be able to complain ...
No. This fact entitles you to be able to play, subject to the terms of the EULA which states explicitly that sometimes there'll be problems.
Nothing, EVER, could *entitle* you to complain. That CCP allow you to, is entirely in their gift.
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Gray Carmicheal
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: SportBilly I'm afraid that although I'm sure CCP are doing their best to rectify the current problems, the fact remains that we are all paying to play this game. This fact alone entitles us to be able to complain when what we are paying for either isn't available or is in such a poor state that it is, in effect, unavailable.
I really don't like complaining about this current situation but its the latest in a long line of problems and I'm starting to feel like a beta tester.
If its a hardware thing then get some new stuff in that can cope with the load. If its a code problem then find some way of effectively testing before rolling it out.
Every month many organisations take their little cut of my salary for the service they provide to me - the difference is that when I turn on my light or when I turn on my tap or when I turn on my heater they all work...all the time. Now, when I try to log onto EVE...
They have said they're getting (or have) the new servers, and are in the process of working them in somehow. I'm not an IT specialist, so I quit reading at the jargon.
They're probably trying to optimize the code to work BETTER with the new servers, but that requires implementing, which sometimes screws with other code and whatnot. I think that's what the hotfixxes actually are, bits of code optimization. But anyway, they test it (I'm sure, you never jam fresh code into anything untested), but they can't really get results with bots like they do with varied pings/paths/players bases and all. So they test it, it tests good, they plant it in. It breaks, they yank it and fix it. Sure this sucks, but the only true way to test something like netcode optimization is to plant it on a server and cram people doing stuff onto it. ________________ <- Hates Whiners and people with generally crappy attitudes. Does not play well with morons. |

Flyer11
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:39:00 -
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the guys are doing everything they can and proberly more to fix it.. the best way to make sure something works is to throw it out there and see what bugs people find then fix them.. its that simple.. u cant simulate anything with bots etc as there programmed do certain stuff RL players dont.. name me one bot that will do half the crazy stuff we would do while in eve.. lol good to see the mods and devs doing there jobs and keep us all informed
so fix the fix then everyone can stop moaning and go sit in there little corner of space again
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Bogwitch
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:40:00 -
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Fair enough - but I want to be paid for being a tester then!
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Great Artista
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:42:00 -
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AHOY! its the restart! -------------
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Gray Carmicheal
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Bogwitch Fair enough - but I want to be paid for being a tester then!
Ahem... You don't get paid to be a Beta tester in the gaming industry.
Alpha, MAYBE. Beta, never. ________________ <- Hates Whiners and people with generally crappy attitudes. Does not play well with morons. |

SportBilly
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:45:00 -
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They can either provide this product or they can't. All I ask is don't sell something to me as a polished and quality product when it quite clearly isn't.
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Gray Carmicheal
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:47:00 -
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I'm sure it's because they're just currently stuck with old servers that were never expected to handle the loads we put on them. ________________ <- Hates Whiners and people with generally crappy attitudes. Does not play well with morons. |

The Skank
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:48:00 -
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Bearing in mind that the majority of players are Euroland based this time is prime time for weeknight playing of EVE - how do CCP plan to make up the fact that i cant even log into a game i am paying a subscription for? At least on WoW they added extra days to everybodys account each time they bolloxed something with a patch - I have only been playing for just over a month and I have never seen a MMORPG with so many problems in such a short space of time. I have no doubt that CCP are trying to do something about but why are they desperately trying to attract MORE new accounts when the quite obviously cant handle the number they currently have?
And before anyone tells me I have a choice to play or not play - CCP have taken my money and are therefore obliged to provide me with a service for it - if they are unable to provide said service they can refund all the money and I will go and play X3.
Bottom line is ....... I WANT to play EVE but cant and dont think a comment like "we're on the mother" really substitutes for game time!
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Waldo Barnstormer
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:49:00 -
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think im gonna give up playing on tuesdays, cause it seems like it goes
*install hotfix* *servers die* *rollback* *reboot*
Seriously, hotfix's are bad m'kay
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Cosmo Raata
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:01:00 -
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10 min reboot, psshh, looks like that failed already.
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Flyer11
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: The Skank how do CCP plan to make up the fact that i cant even log into a game i am paying a subscription for? At least on WoW they added extra days to everybodys account each time they bolloxed something with a patch - I have only been playing for just over a month and I have never seen a MMORPG with so many problems in such a short space of time.
Can i have a free moros please hehehe with wow im sure everyone had 100's of days free cos of the terrible service and downtime i had with wow when it first came out
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Imaran

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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:02:00 -
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In case any of you guys missed it and are in need of more information, there is a sticky with Dev responses and information in here.

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Waldo Barnstormer
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:02:00 -
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server will restart in.. oh wait.. no it wont.. it'll restart all over again
c'mon CCP.. what the hell is the problem this time?
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gray Carmicheal I'm sure it's because they're just currently stuck with old servers that were never expected to handle the loads we put on them.
Nope, I'm not buying that one.
During beta, the DEV's were touting how the servers could handle 24,000 simultaneous players...
We're 7000 players away from that target and we are bringing the servers to their knees. ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE |

M3G4 InformationOfficer
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:20:00 -
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How about "Stop buying Lambo's" and spend some money on the servers  |

Officer Dibble
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:21:00 -
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Quote: We are experiencing a number of node deaths due to optimization hotfixed deployed in today's downtime
I'm afraid you client side logs do not support your request, the server cannot be rebooted 
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Alekzander
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: Alekzander on 22/11/2005 21:26:01 It's all the people with 1000's of bookmarks and piles of drones crushing the back end data servers, and 100's of ppl crammed into 10 major systems that's bringing eve to it's knees. They should either cut station services down enough to force some people to move a jump or so away, and they can haul their crap into the hubs to sell.
A minor inconvinience to solve a lot of problems is a viable solution. That and move major agents OUT OF MARKET HUBS!!
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WTF?? and I say WTF is matter with U ppl. Are U complete as***** this is a game that is constanldy upgrading more ppl coming more patches. and U are matching WoW and EVE to gather moron. I've played many MMORPG's and EVE is the farmost complexive game U can find, Yes I know U are paying costumers so am I, U dont see me flaming @ CCP for hotfix mistakes or other mistakes, yes it hapens in other games also. So what if U buy it and U think it's COMPLETE WITH NO ERRORS AT ALL, that just says U are a morron, sry to say it. This is a huge game and is always expanding more ppl coming, ofcourse there is sumthing gona go wrong sometimes, that's life. if U dont like it quit then it would make me more happy, less flamers and ppl that cant preciate games that ppl are working hard on. CCP started as a small corp, not like those other giants that have enough cash for all the best equipments. stop flaiming ccp they are doing what they can do, U should be ashamed for many of those post's i've read, no 1 is perfect, U AINT PERFECT IF U START FLAIMING CCP, oh I paid a whole year all I get is errors, I just started this game it sux, i'm the greatest U sux, stop being such a morons, and start preciating what ppl are trying to do, U dont see many games that have player dominting market most games have NPC markets, and all those standings and sec stats, it cost's some power to runn all those numbers. there i've said it. remember this was writen in the heat of the moment, as I read through all those flaming posts. admins U can delete this post or move it or bann me from forums. but there is 1 thing I wana say.THX CCP FOR A GREAT GAME, although there has been some down sides i'm still an EVE FAN and will be forever. and I'm sry for my english I aint god in english
*resists urge to edit this* Flaming gets you nowhere, reverse flaming gets you nowhere either... Microsoft Word gets you very far.
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sub DaMaGe
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:23:00 -
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WTF?? and I say WTF is matter with U ppl. Are U complete as***** this is a game that is constanldy upgrading more ppl coming more patches. and U are matching WoW and EVE to gather moron. I've played many MMORPG's and EVE is the farmost complexive game U can find, Yes I know U are paying costumers so am I, U dont see me flaming @ CCP for hotfix mistakes or other mistakes, yes it hapens in other games also. So what if U buy it and U think it's COMPLETE WITH NO ERRORS AT ALL, that just says U are a morron, sry to say it. This is a huge game and is always expanding more ppl coming, ofcourse there is sumthing gona go wrong sometimes, that's life. if U dont like it quit then it would make me more happy, less flamers and ppl that cant preciate games that ppl are working hard on. CCP started as a small corp, not like those other giants that have enough cash for all the best equipments. stop flaiming ccp they are doing what they can do, U should be ashamed for many of those post's i've read, no 1 is perfect, U AINT PERFECT IF U START FLAIMING CCP, oh I paid a whole year all I get is errors, I just started this game it sux, i'm the greatest U sux, stop being such a morons, and start preciating what ppl are trying to do, U dont see many games that have player dominting market most games have NPC markets, and all those standings and sec stats, it cost's some power to runn all those numbers. there i've said it. remember this was writen in the heat of the moment, as I read through all those flaming posts. admins U can delete this post or move it or bann me from forums. but there is 1 thing I wana say.THX CCP FOR A GREAT GAME, although there has been some down sides i'm still an EVE FAN and will be forever. and I'm sry for my english I aint god in english
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Gray Carmicheal
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Posted - 2005.11.22 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
Originally by: Gray Carmicheal I'm sure it's because they're just currently stuck with old servers that were never expected to handle the loads we put on them.
Nope, I'm not buying that one.
During beta, the DEV's were touting how the servers could handle 24,000 simultaneous players...
We're 7000 players away from that target and we are bringing the servers to their knees.
Okay, I wasn't around then.
But I'm currently actively involved in the thinking pool and all for a new MMO a bunch of friends are making, and they're hoping to boast 2400 people per continent (map/zone/server) on a persistent battlefield. Chances of it actually happening? Not likely.
What the engine says it can handle and what the actual hardware is willing to handle are two VERY different things. ________________ <- Hates Whiners and people with generally crappy attitudes. Does not play well with morons. |
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