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Bisou
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:07:00 -
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Edited by: Bisou on 23/11/2005 18:07:28 A lone pilot somewhere in space , sipping her absynthe and beholding the sight unfolding before her
Dear Count, dear ISS
We wish to express Our deepest gratitude for introducing such a magnificiant and beautiful sight into the EvE Universe. You and your peers have rightfully earned a place in the history of this world.
Behold Marginis, the first playerowned station in history. A beautiful sight indeed, something We could look at for hours on end , relieving Our spacesore eyes, filling Our heart with joy and may be a little jealousy.
Another icecube dances on the rim of the finely crafted crystal glass before tumbling into the delicious green liquid
However my dear Count stories of discord, greed and stupidity have come to Our ears lately and We would like to point out some facts which might upset you slightly but let me assure you that Our comments are made with the best intentions.
We would not want Marginisto fall into heathen hands , would we ?
Alas ISS seemed to have a "war" forced upon them. (Unfortunatly the envy of some will never be contained) This "war"; We will call it war for simplicity's sake but We all know that it was merely a skirmish or even a poorly disgiused PR action ?
Well, where were We...
Ah yes, the "war" seems to have made clear that ISS Management failed to take their eyes out of their wallets for the last few weeks. The concept of communication never seems to have crossed your minds in the slightest. Furthermore, as We stated above, the rich will always attract envy and ISS should at least have had an emergency fleet stacked away somewhere.Hastily some ships were send out but due to lack of communication, funds and support these were hopeless attempts doomed to fail. (you dear Count should read the biography of Our venerable military leader Napoleon if your charged time schedule permits it; but We disgress..)
Of course this miserable behaviour led to a few corporations quitting ISS because they could not and would not cope with their losses but heck..let the rabble run it will make ISS stronger in the long run; or so We hope. And while we are at it, remember "Pencil Protectors" a corporation you had a small skirmish with. We must admit it was only a 2 man corporation and presented no big threat, even to a disorganized foe but would you be so kind as to explain me why they were taken into ISS one day after the war was retracted. It seems to Us that the words spy and caution are missing in your vocabulary. (We would be inclined to get a copy of Our famous "Larousse" sent to you if you so demand) A little bird told me today that they left ISS again...(did they gather enough intelligence ?)
Give Us a second, will you.. An empty glass is filled with the contents of a century old bottle, sparkling greenish deliciousness sloshing, filling the*****pit with a heavenly smell
Ponders; oh yes, economics !
Something ISS seems to be very good at. Earning money off the back of its member corporations. But let Us explain.
You, dear Count, charge a 25.000.000.- isk ,shall We call it fee, contribution or extortion , but noone except you seem to know what exactly is happening with this cash. You advertise that corps will have access to 0.0 through ISS, will be able to put up a POS(again only through ISS)and can dock at Marginisforgetting to mention that even your affiliated corporations must pay a docking fee.We dearly hope that these poor people are aware of the fact that any of the above options is available to each and everyone without the famous [ISS] tag. You propose a hauling service for those unable to keep up with the fuelling of their POS or who want to sell their moonmined materials for a decent fee of another 25.000.000.- per "x" volume..
to be continued
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Bisou
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: Bisou on 23/11/2005 18:10:14 Hell (excuse Us the expression)even your "fleet" and please would you look up the word fleet in any military/nautical dictionary, would you) commander does not know where he can buy what and at what price and whom from.
Oh dear, you got Us quite worked up there. The lonely pilot takes another long exquisite sip and sighs
While we are at it, you really need to do something about your PR agency.
Seeing and having read the outcome of the BOBagreement disaster i must assure you that you may have missed another WAR by a few inches only. Not only are you not able to control the pilots flying under the famous [ISS] tag but you are clearly missing, as We would call it,"Diplomatic Etiquette". Waving around "BOB are shareholders of Marginis" and having a [5] member assure you their support in small undistinguished post will not save your "posterieur" if someone decides to come for you. If indeed some major and influencial personalties are member of your select capitalist group mentioning them only shows how weak you really are, needing to invoke the wrath of greater powers to protect your assets. Another "faux pas" was hiring a mercenary band to go after [Exuro Mortis] again showing your incompetence in dealing with threats and assessing situations properly. Not only throwing away money(but as its probably paid by the small corporations that should not be an issue)but again admitting your inability to defend yourself and inviting with arms wide open any organized warmonger ready to grab the prize. You dear Sir(you may have noticed i dropped the Count;royalty has its standards you know) have assessed the [Exuro Mortis] campaign as a full scaled war wheras it was just a skirmish , laying all your available cards on the table, showing your weaknessess clearly for everyone to see.
Oh my, We were nearly out of breath there
Pilot takes the last sip of absynthe and sighs regretfully
Well it seems Our supply of liquor has run out. I assume we will have to go looking for a cargo in another starsystem as your outpost seems not to be supplied so well but rest assured that We will come back to have another untarnished glance at the magnificiant sight that is Marginis
Yours faithfully
Bisou
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Alghoul
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:20:00 -
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wow, thats....long
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:23:00 -
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I refer madam to my sig. ....
ps. POST WITH YOUR MAIN
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Evil Edna
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:30:00 -
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too long to bother reading from an alt
Killboard.co.uk In game channel kr0m-public |
Dirtball
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:31:00 -
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I made it to this part
Quote: Behold Marginis, the first playerowned station in history
then I gave up
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Thrak
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:33:00 -
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I wholeheartedly agree.
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Amataras
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:41:00 -
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Basically they're not happy with ISS for some reason that I didn't quite get to.
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:46:00 -
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Simply marvelous old chap *puffs on pipe*, i say, anyone for cricket?
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Amataras
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: LoxyRider Simply marvelous old chap *puffs on pipe*, i say, anyone for cricket?
And buttered scones for tea?
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: LoxyRider Simply marvelous old chap *puffs on pipe*, i say, anyone for cricket?
Why don't mind if I do, silly mid off anyone?
Start Wearing Purple!
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Thrak
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:56:00 -
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SIX OF YOU? ONE OF ME? I MAKE THAT PIMMS O CLOCK
Rah! So I said, bally old thatcher wouldn't have let that happen! HWAH HWAH HWAH |
Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:59:00 -
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He, thats actually a semi-interesting story for an alt. I didnt quite manage to figure out the point but i did start to wonder something;
Is Marginins really making money? I visited the place once and it seemed rather deserted, i saw 3 ISS navy pilots docked there and 10 or so pirates troughout the surounding constellation.
The NPC's in the aera seem rather smallish and there doesnt appear to be any useful ore either. Not to mention the lack of a refinery. ------------------
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Cmdr Sy
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:01:00 -
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If you can't be bothered reading the flamebait above, it basically says that ISS have more money than sense, the Outpost is a white elephant Millennium Dome style, and they will crumble the moment any competent alliance decides to destroy them.
Which may well be true. But I say, jolly poor form to express oneself in such terms, what!
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Cmdr Sy If you can't be bothered reading the flamebait above, it basically says that ISS have more money than sense, the Outpost is a white elephant Millennium Dome style, and they will crumble the moment any competent alliance decides to destroy them.
Which may well be true. But I say, jolly poor form to express oneself in such terms, what!
What's the point? :) So you conquer station of civilians? I prefer breeding them and getting there to harvest some :)
Originally by: WildCard "NOW Flyzone" before after
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:05:00 -
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Could someone with no life please recap those two alt posts into something that's remotely understandable and not filled with garbage?
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:07:00 -
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... I recall certain absinth aficionado from times long past with very similar manner of speech, but this one is by far more long winded o.O;
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Taurequis
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:09:00 -
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I've visited and sat in the station for a couple of days and it seemed pretty busy for such a new idea (say 5 - 10 peeps in local alot of the time).
The tech 2 market should attract the major players in the areas around it once word gets around. Its looking pretty well stocked with a diverse range.
Taurequis
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Bisou Behold Marginis, the first playerowned station in history.
you missed the whole "ASCN put up the first player-owned station in eve" thing that was even on the front of the main eve-online site then?
Originally by: Chowdown We camp a lot
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Kroma BaSyl
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:36:00 -
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Quote: ISS, does money make stupid
Not sure, but reading long winded and incoherent posts have knocked a few IQ points off of me today. <snicker>
Kroma BaSyl CEO - Snickers Inc
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Frederick Lyrus
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla Could someone with no life please recap those two alt posts into something that's remotely understandable and not filled with garbage?
Sure, why not. I havn't got a life worth living. Paraphrasing follows...
Quote: Dear ISS
1) You have a really sucky military and hiring mercenaries only goes to prove it.
2) You charge your poor abused member corporations 25 million a month and I have no idea what it's spent on.
3) It's not fair that joining the ISS doesn't get me free docking at Marginis.
Sincerely
A pilot without the guts to complain with a real character
And in response, because I cannot resist feeding the troll. This will probably get me in trouble but so what.
1) Yah. Are we not pitiful. Why don't you do something about it rather than complaining anonymously?
2) Well, I have an idea where it goes... make an effort, it's not hard.
3) A bigger response. You seem to be suffering under a misunderstanding here, Marginis is not owned by the ISS, it is operated by the ISS in accordance with the goals of the charter. It's owned by me. And some other people, but they're less significant to me. If you want to use my station, you have to pay me (and some other people). Just because you've joined me in an parallel but unassociated franchise doesn't mean you get off free. As a shareholder I get a rebate, at the end of the month I receive a portion of my docking fees proportional to my stake back. If you want to receive the same then invest, or build your own outpost and get free docking.
Anyway, the fees are only really excessive in the case of battleships. Which begs the question, why are you docking a warship at a trading post? Dock in an industrial, buy lots of stuff for a fairly cheap docking fee, fly it elsewhere. Do your BS fitting at a Maintenance array or someone elses station. The high BS fees discourage people from stashing war fleets there, which can only be a good thing.
On a more civilized note, there should be cucumber sandwiches. It's not proper cricket without cucumber sandwiches.
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WeLoveYouLongTime
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:49:00 -
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Anyone else noticed all the ISS Shares being sold on the sell orders forum in the last few days?
Either they know something we don't or ISS has fallen out with yet more people.
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Frederick Lyrus
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:59:00 -
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It could be people feel they won't get an adequete payout. It could be the last dividend was lower than they expected. It could be that some were sold at 15 million each and people think that a 50% return on investment two weeks before the station was originally scheduled to go up is all they want.
Personally, I'm holding out for next week and the first real dividend without station office auction and with a full month of operation behind it. It's still a little early to tell if it's a wonderful cash cow or the biggest white elephant since the British Government thought it could build a theme park.
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PirateShampoo
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Posted - 2005.11.23 20:20:00 -
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Can some 1 please put that 2 post snooze into a simple to read 2 line summonry please. I feel asleep before the page downloaded for it
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.11.23 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: PirateShampoo Can some 1 please put that 2 post snooze into a simple to read 2 line summonry please. I feel asleep before the page downloaded for it
ISS suck, we charge too much in membership fees for Count to keep his luxury yacht in the skies, and Marginis was a waste of effort.
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Romulus Maximus
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Posted - 2005.11.23 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Fi T'Zeh I refer madam to my sig.
OMG..new fav line ?
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2005.11.23 23:13:00 -
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Alts posting about ISS because there was a recent topic on them to impress people does make stupid.
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.11.23 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: LoxyRider Simply marvelous old chap *puffs on pipe*, i say, anyone for cricket?
Don't be such a heathen, the proper upper class play a nice gentel game of Croquet.
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Archilies
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Posted - 2005.11.23 23:53:00 -
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intersesting crap there
It's up to the ISS how much they charge their corporations upon entering, every month, The 25million is probbaly there so corps that simple join for 'protection' dnt just join for that reason alone, so they have a kind of stake in the alliance, therefore feeling that they should be proud of something. The fee is not extorted out of you,if you don't want to join just leave the alliance im guessing? As for what they do with that isk, it's the executor's corps to keep, since they made the alliance, the fee might not be going into alliance accounts, thats something you should have asked before joining.
As for the docking fee, it has to be charged for all members, coz who owns the outpost? shareholders do, so there shouldnt be any rules on who does/doesnt get charged.
Message to ISS- How you doin Message to Bisou - No offence mate but you sound like a 65year old who's just lost his inheritance dude to stupidty
Archy boy
I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception
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superscarface
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Posted - 2005.11.24 00:30:00 -
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Such ignorance. I think you have answered your own question:
Originally by: Bisou You, dear Count, charge a 25.000.000.- isk ,shall We call it fee, contribution or extortion , but noone except you seem to know what exactly is happening with this cash.
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Quote: Ah yes, the "war" seems to have made clear that ISS Management failed to take their eyes out of their wallets for the last few weeks.
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Originally by: Bisou Another "faux pas" was hiring a mercenary band to go after [Exuro Mortis] again showing your incompetence in dealing with threats and assessing situations properly.
Wait, ill spell it out. 25mil / month member fee's (which, btw you save in pos fuel, thanks to sovreignty) goes to ISS Management. ISS Management hires mercs...
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