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Bisou
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:07:00 -
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Edited by: Bisou on 23/11/2005 18:07:28 A lone pilot somewhere in space , sipping her absynthe and beholding the sight unfolding before her
Dear Count, dear ISS
We wish to express Our deepest gratitude for introducing such a magnificiant and beautiful sight into the EvE Universe. You and your peers have rightfully earned a place in the history of this world.
Behold Marginis, the first playerowned station in history. A beautiful sight indeed, something We could look at for hours on end , relieving Our spacesore eyes, filling Our heart with joy and may be a little jealousy.
Another icecube dances on the rim of the finely crafted crystal glass before tumbling into the delicious green liquid
However my dear Count stories of discord, greed and stupidity have come to Our ears lately and We would like to point out some facts which might upset you slightly but let me assure you that Our comments are made with the best intentions.
We would not want Marginisto fall into heathen hands , would we ?
Alas ISS seemed to have a "war" forced upon them. (Unfortunatly the envy of some will never be contained) This "war"; We will call it war for simplicity's sake but We all know that it was merely a skirmish or even a poorly disgiused PR action ?
Well, where were We...
Ah yes, the "war" seems to have made clear that ISS Management failed to take their eyes out of their wallets for the last few weeks. The concept of communication never seems to have crossed your minds in the slightest. Furthermore, as We stated above, the rich will always attract envy and ISS should at least have had an emergency fleet stacked away somewhere.Hastily some ships were send out but due to lack of communication, funds and support these were hopeless attempts doomed to fail. (you dear Count should read the biography of Our venerable military leader Napoleon if your charged time schedule permits it; but We disgress..)
Of course this miserable behaviour led to a few corporations quitting ISS because they could not and would not cope with their losses but heck..let the rabble run it will make ISS stronger in the long run; or so We hope. And while we are at it, remember "Pencil Protectors" a corporation you had a small skirmish with. We must admit it was only a 2 man corporation and presented no big threat, even to a disorganized foe but would you be so kind as to explain me why they were taken into ISS one day after the war was retracted. It seems to Us that the words spy and caution are missing in your vocabulary. (We would be inclined to get a copy of Our famous "Larousse" sent to you if you so demand) A little bird told me today that they left ISS again...(did they gather enough intelligence ?)
Give Us a second, will you.. An empty glass is filled with the contents of a century old bottle, sparkling greenish deliciousness sloshing, filling the*****pit with a heavenly smell
Ponders; oh yes, economics !
Something ISS seems to be very good at. Earning money off the back of its member corporations. But let Us explain.
You, dear Count, charge a 25.000.000.- isk ,shall We call it fee, contribution or extortion , but noone except you seem to know what exactly is happening with this cash. You advertise that corps will have access to 0.0 through ISS, will be able to put up a POS(again only through ISS)and can dock at Marginisforgetting to mention that even your affiliated corporations must pay a docking fee.We dearly hope that these poor people are aware of the fact that any of the above options is available to each and everyone without the famous [ISS] tag. You propose a hauling service for those unable to keep up with the fuelling of their POS or who want to sell their moonmined materials for a decent fee of another 25.000.000.- per "x" volume..
to be continued
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Bisou
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: Bisou on 23/11/2005 18:10:14 Hell (excuse Us the expression)even your "fleet" and please would you look up the word fleet in any military/nautical dictionary, would you) commander does not know where he can buy what and at what price and whom from.
Oh dear, you got Us quite worked up there. The lonely pilot takes another long exquisite sip and sighs
While we are at it, you really need to do something about your PR agency.
Seeing and having read the outcome of the BOBagreement disaster i must assure you that you may have missed another WAR by a few inches only. Not only are you not able to control the pilots flying under the famous [ISS] tag but you are clearly missing, as We would call it,"Diplomatic Etiquette". Waving around "BOB are shareholders of Marginis" and having a [5] member assure you their support in small undistinguished post will not save your "posterieur" if someone decides to come for you. If indeed some major and influencial personalties are member of your select capitalist group mentioning them only shows how weak you really are, needing to invoke the wrath of greater powers to protect your assets. Another "faux pas" was hiring a mercenary band to go after [Exuro Mortis] again showing your incompetence in dealing with threats and assessing situations properly. Not only throwing away money(but as its probably paid by the small corporations that should not be an issue)but again admitting your inability to defend yourself and inviting with arms wide open any organized warmonger ready to grab the prize. You dear Sir(you may have noticed i dropped the Count;royalty has its standards you know) have assessed the [Exuro Mortis] campaign as a full scaled war wheras it was just a skirmish , laying all your available cards on the table, showing your weaknessess clearly for everyone to see.
Oh my, We were nearly out of breath there
Pilot takes the last sip of absynthe and sighs regretfully
Well it seems Our supply of liquor has run out. I assume we will have to go looking for a cargo in another starsystem as your outpost seems not to be supplied so well but rest assured that We will come back to have another untarnished glance at the magnificiant sight that is Marginis
Yours faithfully
Bisou
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Alghoul
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:20:00 -
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wow, thats....long
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:23:00 -
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I refer madam to my sig. ....
ps. POST WITH YOUR MAIN
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Evil Edna
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:30:00 -
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too long to bother reading from an alt
Killboard.co.uk In game channel kr0m-public |
Dirtball
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:31:00 -
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I made it to this part
Quote: Behold Marginis, the first playerowned station in history
then I gave up
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Thrak
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:33:00 -
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I wholeheartedly agree.
with Fitz'eh. |
Amataras
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:41:00 -
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Basically they're not happy with ISS for some reason that I didn't quite get to.
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:46:00 -
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Simply marvelous old chap *puffs on pipe*, i say, anyone for cricket?
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Amataras
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: LoxyRider Simply marvelous old chap *puffs on pipe*, i say, anyone for cricket?
And buttered scones for tea?
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: LoxyRider Simply marvelous old chap *puffs on pipe*, i say, anyone for cricket?
Why don't mind if I do, silly mid off anyone?
Start Wearing Purple!
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Thrak
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:56:00 -
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SIX OF YOU? ONE OF ME? I MAKE THAT PIMMS O CLOCK
Rah! So I said, bally old thatcher wouldn't have let that happen! HWAH HWAH HWAH |
Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.11.23 18:59:00 -
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He, thats actually a semi-interesting story for an alt. I didnt quite manage to figure out the point but i did start to wonder something;
Is Marginins really making money? I visited the place once and it seemed rather deserted, i saw 3 ISS navy pilots docked there and 10 or so pirates troughout the surounding constellation.
The NPC's in the aera seem rather smallish and there doesnt appear to be any useful ore either. Not to mention the lack of a refinery. ------------------
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Cmdr Sy
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:01:00 -
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If you can't be bothered reading the flamebait above, it basically says that ISS have more money than sense, the Outpost is a white elephant Millennium Dome style, and they will crumble the moment any competent alliance decides to destroy them.
Which may well be true. But I say, jolly poor form to express oneself in such terms, what!
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Cmdr Sy If you can't be bothered reading the flamebait above, it basically says that ISS have more money than sense, the Outpost is a white elephant Millennium Dome style, and they will crumble the moment any competent alliance decides to destroy them.
Which may well be true. But I say, jolly poor form to express oneself in such terms, what!
What's the point? :) So you conquer station of civilians? I prefer breeding them and getting there to harvest some :)
Originally by: WildCard "NOW Flyzone" before after
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:05:00 -
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Could someone with no life please recap those two alt posts into something that's remotely understandable and not filled with garbage?
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:07:00 -
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... I recall certain absinth aficionado from times long past with very similar manner of speech, but this one is by far more long winded o.O;
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Taurequis
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:09:00 -
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I've visited and sat in the station for a couple of days and it seemed pretty busy for such a new idea (say 5 - 10 peeps in local alot of the time).
The tech 2 market should attract the major players in the areas around it once word gets around. Its looking pretty well stocked with a diverse range.
Taurequis
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Bisou Behold Marginis, the first playerowned station in history.
you missed the whole "ASCN put up the first player-owned station in eve" thing that was even on the front of the main eve-online site then?
Originally by: Chowdown We camp a lot
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Kroma BaSyl
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:36:00 -
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Quote: ISS, does money make stupid
Not sure, but reading long winded and incoherent posts have knocked a few IQ points off of me today. <snicker>
Kroma BaSyl CEO - Snickers Inc
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Frederick Lyrus
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla Could someone with no life please recap those two alt posts into something that's remotely understandable and not filled with garbage?
Sure, why not. I havn't got a life worth living. Paraphrasing follows...
Quote: Dear ISS
1) You have a really sucky military and hiring mercenaries only goes to prove it.
2) You charge your poor abused member corporations 25 million a month and I have no idea what it's spent on.
3) It's not fair that joining the ISS doesn't get me free docking at Marginis.
Sincerely
A pilot without the guts to complain with a real character
And in response, because I cannot resist feeding the troll. This will probably get me in trouble but so what.
1) Yah. Are we not pitiful. Why don't you do something about it rather than complaining anonymously?
2) Well, I have an idea where it goes... make an effort, it's not hard.
3) A bigger response. You seem to be suffering under a misunderstanding here, Marginis is not owned by the ISS, it is operated by the ISS in accordance with the goals of the charter. It's owned by me. And some other people, but they're less significant to me. If you want to use my station, you have to pay me (and some other people). Just because you've joined me in an parallel but unassociated franchise doesn't mean you get off free. As a shareholder I get a rebate, at the end of the month I receive a portion of my docking fees proportional to my stake back. If you want to receive the same then invest, or build your own outpost and get free docking.
Anyway, the fees are only really excessive in the case of battleships. Which begs the question, why are you docking a warship at a trading post? Dock in an industrial, buy lots of stuff for a fairly cheap docking fee, fly it elsewhere. Do your BS fitting at a Maintenance array or someone elses station. The high BS fees discourage people from stashing war fleets there, which can only be a good thing.
On a more civilized note, there should be cucumber sandwiches. It's not proper cricket without cucumber sandwiches.
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WeLoveYouLongTime
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:49:00 -
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Anyone else noticed all the ISS Shares being sold on the sell orders forum in the last few days?
Either they know something we don't or ISS has fallen out with yet more people.
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Frederick Lyrus
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Posted - 2005.11.23 19:59:00 -
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It could be people feel they won't get an adequete payout. It could be the last dividend was lower than they expected. It could be that some were sold at 15 million each and people think that a 50% return on investment two weeks before the station was originally scheduled to go up is all they want.
Personally, I'm holding out for next week and the first real dividend without station office auction and with a full month of operation behind it. It's still a little early to tell if it's a wonderful cash cow or the biggest white elephant since the British Government thought it could build a theme park.
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PirateShampoo
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Posted - 2005.11.23 20:20:00 -
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Can some 1 please put that 2 post snooze into a simple to read 2 line summonry please. I feel asleep before the page downloaded for it
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.11.23 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: PirateShampoo Can some 1 please put that 2 post snooze into a simple to read 2 line summonry please. I feel asleep before the page downloaded for it
ISS suck, we charge too much in membership fees for Count to keep his luxury yacht in the skies, and Marginis was a waste of effort.
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Romulus Maximus
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Posted - 2005.11.23 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Fi T'Zeh I refer madam to my sig.
OMG..new fav line ?
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2005.11.23 23:13:00 -
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Alts posting about ISS because there was a recent topic on them to impress people does make stupid.
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.11.23 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: LoxyRider Simply marvelous old chap *puffs on pipe*, i say, anyone for cricket?
Don't be such a heathen, the proper upper class play a nice gentel game of Croquet.
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Archilies
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Posted - 2005.11.23 23:53:00 -
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intersesting crap there
It's up to the ISS how much they charge their corporations upon entering, every month, The 25million is probbaly there so corps that simple join for 'protection' dnt just join for that reason alone, so they have a kind of stake in the alliance, therefore feeling that they should be proud of something. The fee is not extorted out of you,if you don't want to join just leave the alliance im guessing? As for what they do with that isk, it's the executor's corps to keep, since they made the alliance, the fee might not be going into alliance accounts, thats something you should have asked before joining.
As for the docking fee, it has to be charged for all members, coz who owns the outpost? shareholders do, so there shouldnt be any rules on who does/doesnt get charged.
Message to ISS- How you doin Message to Bisou - No offence mate but you sound like a 65year old who's just lost his inheritance dude to stupidty
Archy boy
I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception
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superscarface
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Posted - 2005.11.24 00:30:00 -
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Such ignorance. I think you have answered your own question:
Originally by: Bisou You, dear Count, charge a 25.000.000.- isk ,shall We call it fee, contribution or extortion , but noone except you seem to know what exactly is happening with this cash.
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Quote: Ah yes, the "war" seems to have made clear that ISS Management failed to take their eyes out of their wallets for the last few weeks.
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Originally by: Bisou Another "faux pas" was hiring a mercenary band to go after [Exuro Mortis] again showing your incompetence in dealing with threats and assessing situations properly.
Wait, ill spell it out. 25mil / month member fee's (which, btw you save in pos fuel, thanks to sovreignty) goes to ISS Management. ISS Management hires mercs...
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Specture
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Posted - 2005.11.24 00:56:00 -
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I was just wondering.... how does ISS make ISK off of the outpost? When I went there to go and have some fun :) I noticed a couple of bad things. Okay first..... HED.... you have to go through.... WTF who ever thought that would not be camped a lot of times and was the "ISS Navy" supposed to clean it out? I then made my way to the outpost (HED was not camped but then was on my return visit.) I then was at the outpost and laughed becuase... nobody was there for about 2 hours... so I got bored and left. Just out of curiosity, how do you expect to pay back ~30b when u make about 2m a month of the outpost
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Drew Kelly
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Posted - 2005.11.24 01:25:00 -
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tbh with curse and stain full of so many NPC stations. It would be more profitable for ISS to have just set up a T2 market at one of the NPC stations.
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Sister 9
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Posted - 2005.11.24 01:56:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla Could someone with no life
pot kettle black, enough said. |
Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.11.24 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Specture I was just wondering.... how does ISS make ISK off of the outpost?
It doesn't. The shareholders make money.
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Specture
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Posted - 2005.11.24 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Specture I was just wondering.... how does ISS make ISK off of the outpost?
It doesn't. The shareholders make money.
well how does the shareholders make money, I am interested in trading at the outpost, I would like to see a chart of how much is has made to the "share-holders" and how much has actually visited and traded at the outpost, becuase frankly I don't think it is worth the effort, now I know you have these statistics becuase as a stock holder i would demand it, and you could deny me access to this information, so I could take my buisness elsewhere. |
Umek
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Posted - 2005.11.24 06:17:00 -
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Dear god I'd love some scones with butter
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.24 10:18:00 -
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still open with that title?
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.11.24 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: Baldour Ngarr on 24/11/2005 11:36:01
Originally by: Specture
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Specture I was just wondering.... how does ISS make ISK off of the outpost?
It doesn't. The shareholders make money.
well how does the shareholders make money, I am interested in trading at the outpost, I would like to see a chart of how much is has made to the "share-holders" and how much has actually visited and traded at the outpost, becuase frankly I don't think it is worth the effort, now I know you have these statistics becuase as a stock holder i would demand it, and you could deny me access to this information, so I could take my buisness elsewhere.
Actually, we don't have those statistics yet, because the outpost hasn't even been open for a full calendar month yet. Try again after December 1st, when the shareholders can report back on what dividends they're getting.
And, tbh, if you were interested in trading at the outpost, declaring war on us really wasn't the way to achieve it. You could've just asked.
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Murph Dog
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Posted - 2005.11.24 13:03:00 -
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Summary of original post: "Rabble Rabble Roar Yell! I don't get free iskies so i hate on people with my alts."
Summary of how ISS shareholders make iskies from Marginis: 1) The Ponderosa Steakhouse on the roof. 2) The stripclubs and pubs in the basement 3) People who dock humongously obese battleships and then complain that it wasn't free
I've bought and sold on Marginis and thus far things have been busy. Yeah it's not an empire station so I have to go to Rens to buy my Quafe Ultra but hey, anywhere i can dock in 0.0 is a welcome ammenity to me :)
/me waves to the other Main's
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.11.24 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Murph Dog I've bought and sold on Marginis and thus far things have been busy. Yeah it's not an empire station so I have to go to Rens to buy my Quafe Ultra
I'll add Quafe Ultra to the next freighter shipment. Happy now?
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Lowa
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Posted - 2005.11.24 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Umek Dear god I'd love some scones with butter
Oh man that would be so good right about now! I'm only here for the scones but if you dont like the ISS outpost build your own then...
Cheers, LOWA
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.11.24 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Cmdr Sy Millennium Dome style,
Oi - you leave Cadman's bonce out of this... ____________________________________________
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Serenity Steele
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Posted - 2005.11.24 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: Serenity Steele on 24/11/2005 16:14:07 That was a beautiful piece of fiction.
Being a fan of short stories and coctails, I particularly enjoyed the way the author captured the wild hallucinations of an Absynthe-ee.
Edit: There are some drinks the forum filter just doesn't apprecitate.
Screenshots
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McWalker
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Posted - 2005.11.24 16:59:00 -
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Good post.. I enjoyed that :)
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ElweSingollo
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Posted - 2005.11.24 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Bisou Behold Marginis, the first playerowned station in history.
you missed the whole "ASCN put up the first player-owned station in eve" thing that was even on the front of the main eve-online site then?
Umm slight differfence between "Outpost" and "station" as far as I know mate .
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.11.24 17:28:00 -
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Edited by: NAFnist on 24/11/2005 17:27:50
Originally by: ElweSingollo
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Bisou Behold Marginis, the first playerowned station in history.
you missed the whole "ASCN put up the first player-owned station in eve" thing that was even on the front of the main eve-online site then?
Umm slight differfence between "Outpost" and "station" as far as I know mate .
Yeah, but in this case it acctually was an outpost ASCN put up. They were the first. It was on the frontpage, ya know.
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ElweSingollo
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Posted - 2005.11.24 17:32:00 -
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Edited by: ElweSingollo on 24/11/2005 17:33:21
Originally by: NAFnist Edited by: NAFnist on 24/11/2005 17:27:50
Originally by: ElweSingollo
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Bisou Behold Marginis, the first playerowned station in history.
you missed the whole "ASCN put up the first player-owned station in eve" thing that was even on the front of the main eve-online site then?
Umm slight differfence between "Outpost" and "station" as far as I know mate .
Yeah, but in this case it acctually was an outpost ASCN put up. They were the first. It was on the frontpage, ya know.
Um yes they were the first to put up an "Outpost" ISS are the first to put up a "station" if you look at the original post I was replying to it implied that ASCN had put up a station.... now maybe I am being dense but is that not what I was pointing out?
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.11.24 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: ElweSingollo Edited by: ElweSingollo on 24/11/2005 17:33:21
Originally by: NAFnist Edited by: NAFnist on 24/11/2005 17:27:50
Originally by: ElweSingollo
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Bisou Behold Marginis, the first playerowned station in history.
you missed the whole "ASCN put up the first player-owned station in eve" thing that was even on the front of the main eve-online site then?
Umm slight differfence between "Outpost" and "station" as far as I know mate .
Yeah, but in this case it acctually was an outpost ASCN put up. They were the first. It was on the frontpage, ya know.
Um yes they were the first to put up an "Outpost" ISS are the first to put up a "station" if you look at the original post I was replying to it implied that ASCN had put up a station.... now maybe I am being dense but is that not what I was pointing out?
Ok sorry Im not exactly a carebear with knowlage of putting up structures, so why dont you explain me what the difference is between a Player-built Staion and a Player built outpost.
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Professor McFly
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Posted - 2005.11.24 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: Professor McFly on 24/11/2005 17:45:16 Marginis is an OUTPOST . Players can only build Outposts. Outposts are called that and not stations simply to show that they are smaller than the real big huge npc stations in the game.
They need to add some kind of filter to this forum, so when an alt makes a dumb thread like this, their main gets insta-recycled.
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.11.24 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Professor McFly Marginis is an OUTPOST
ty, thats what i thought
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Earthworm Jimbo
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Posted - 2005.11.24 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: NAFnist
Originally by: ElweSingollo Edited by: ElweSingollo on 24/11/2005 17:33:21
Originally by: NAFnist Edited by: NAFnist on 24/11/2005 17:27:50
Originally by: ElweSingollo
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Bisou Behold Marginis, the first playerowned station in history.
you missed the whole "ASCN put up the first player-owned station in eve" thing that was even on the front of the main eve-online site then?
Umm slight differfence between "Outpost" and "station" as far as I know mate .
Yeah, but in this case it acctually was an outpost ASCN put up. They were the first. It was on the frontpage, ya know.
Um yes they were the first to put up an "Outpost" ISS are the first to put up a "station" if you look at the original post I was replying to it implied that ASCN had put up a station.... now maybe I am being dense but is that not what I was pointing out?
Ok sorry Im not exactly a carebear with knowlage of putting up structures, so why dont you explain me what the difference is between a Player-built Staion and a Player built outpost.
Player built stations are POS's as they are usually called in their shorterned form. Everyone and their mum has one and the ISS definatly were not the first to have one.
Player Built outposts are what the ISS and ASCN and other alliances have built. Currently ASCN has Minmitar outposts (the refining ones) and the ISS has a Gallente outpost (lots of office slots) which is the first gallente one in eve. However ASCN had the first outpost in eve full stop.
All we are left to see are the caldari and ammar outposts. Actually has a caldari one been built already i swear someone or maby the devs had built one for the events ppl.
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.11.24 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Earthworm Jimbo
Originally by: NAFnist
Originally by: ElweSingollo Edited by: ElweSingollo on 24/11/2005 17:33:21
Originally by: NAFnist Edited by: NAFnist on 24/11/2005 17:27:50
Originally by: ElweSingollo
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Bisou Behold Marginis, the first playerowned station in history.
you missed the whole "ASCN put up the first player-owned station in eve" thing that was even on the front of the main eve-online site then?
Umm slight differfence between "Outpost" and "station" as far as I know mate .
Yeah, but in this case it acctually was an outpost ASCN put up. They were the first. It was on the frontpage, ya know.
Um yes they were the first to put up an "Outpost" ISS are the first to put up a "station" if you look at the original post I was replying to it implied that ASCN had put up a station.... now maybe I am being dense but is that not what I was pointing out?
Ok sorry Im not exactly a carebear with knowlage of putting up structures, so why dont you explain me what the difference is between a Player-built Staion and a Player built outpost.
Player built stations are POS's as they are usually called in their shorterned form. Everyone and their mum has one and the ISS definatly were not the first to have one.
Player Built outposts are what the ISS and ASCN and other alliances have built. Currently ASCN has Minmitar outposts (the refining ones) and the ISS has a Gallente outpost (lots of office slots) which is the first gallente one in eve. However ASCN had the first outpost in eve full stop.
All we are left to see are the caldari and ammar outposts. Actually has a caldari one been built already i swear someone or maby the devs had built one for the events ppl.
uh uh POS is Player Owned Structures rigth?
Thank you for that clarification mate
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ElweSingollo
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Posted - 2005.11.24 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: NAFnist Edited by: NAFnist on 24/11/2005 17:56:07
Originally by: Earthworm Jimbo Player built stations are POS's as they are usually called in their shorterned form. Everyone and their mum has one and the ISS definatly were not the first to have one.
Player Built outposts are what the ISS and ASCN and other alliances have built. Currently ASCN has Minmitar outposts (the refining ones) and the ISS has a Gallente outpost (lots of office slots) which is the first gallente one in eve. However ASCN had the first outpost in eve full stop.
All we are left to see are the caldari and ammar outposts. Actually has a caldari one been built already i swear someone or maby the devs had built one for the events ppl.
uh uh POS is Player Owned Structures rigth?
Thank you for that clarification mate
fair enough that being the case I made a mistake my bad I understood that they were 2 different entities... btw no need to get personal about it.
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Professor McFly
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Posted - 2005.11.24 18:46:00 -
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When people say POS they are generally referring to the anchorable Control Towers + related buildings for moon mining, not outposts.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.11.24 19:35:00 -
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ASCN built the first outpost in EVE. We can't match that - it's kinda hard to repeat being the first ever of something
ISS have built the first Gallente outpost, but that's not a significant fact. What we like to consider as significant, is that we have build the first publicly-owned outpost.
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Specture
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Posted - 2005.11.24 20:36:00 -
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there are plenty of outposts in the game right now owned by stain acsn, and other people i sierously dont care about :p
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MilkMonkeyMan
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Posted - 2005.11.24 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Specture there are plenty of outposts in the game right now owned by stain acsn, and other people i sierously dont care about :p
O im sorry, did we not tell u? we dont care whether u care or not? mmkay?
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.11.24 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: ElweSingollo fair enough that being the case I made a mistake my bad I understood that they were 2 different entities... btw no need to get personal about it.
want a cookie?
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LcGhK9
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Posted - 2005.11.24 21:44:00 -
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Edited by: LcGhK9 on 24/11/2005 21:44:43
Originally by: NAFnist
Originally by: ElweSingollo fair enough that being the case I made a mistake my bad I understood that they were 2 different entities... btw no need to get personal about it.
want a cookie?
Ugh, filthy troll, off with you!
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Grim Savage
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Posted - 2005.11.25 00:09:00 -
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check map.. ASCN have built 4 stations..
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2005.11.25 04:19:00 -
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books 4tl....
"TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO"
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Kira Bellum
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Posted - 2005.11.25 11:45:00 -
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really no one makes money off that outpost. its a poorly designed idea.... i would guess that it attracts more pirates that carebears trying to earn isk in 0.0
npc stations are used as market hubs and no docking fees there.
so this is a bad idea.... bad execution of the bad idea is only to be expected.
the really funny thing is i would guess there is one smart person in the whole cherade.
the person in charge of the stocks.... they get a semi decent idea out convince stupid people to invest isk..... promise a return, a promise based on a trusted name. and then when it turns out this outpost was a really bad investment..... darn where did taht guy go? i want my original investment back!!!
too bad its already gone.
i mean really.... the only use of that station is to use it as one big scam lol....
ISS falls victim to the idea that alliances are powerful... they forget it is truely individuals that provide the power.
what exactly does a moon mining alliance have to do with owning an outpost anyways?
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