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WildCard
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Posted - 2005.11.25 15:18:00 -
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Regarding ASCN:
Beginning September 18th, ASCN launched an attack against "the north". Their tactics in "Ze Northern Campaign" consisted mostly of harassing the residents with cheap ships in ECP-8R and jumping back to the safety of empire space whenever [G] formed a fleet to engage and destroy the invaders. On October 14th, [G] decided to end this campaign by declaring empire war on ASCN. The empire war ended any dreams of invasion and conquest for ASCN and lead to a humiliating defeat: After just two weeks, ASCN was forced to surrender on November 1st.
As part of the terms of surrender [G] was granted the right to fly through and dock in ASCN claimed space. [G] used this to settle a score that was long overdue: 3 months ago Stain had staged an Invasion in Fade, and now [G] answered in kind. Stain-Alliance quickly dissolved and [G] was already planning their return to their own territory in Fade and Cloud Ring.
We all were surprised by a PR move: ASCN tried to present themselves as victors and liberators of the south, tried to dictate [G] a timeframe for leaving the south and assembled a 100 battleship fleet a few jumps away from the [G] fleets. At the same time [G] knew that ASCN leadership prepared their alliance for an attack in the south, fleet orders were already issued in their pvp channels. Plans of returning home were quickly abandoned under this circumstances and the assault against ASCN began.
Regarding "G-Desperate?":
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If you take the time to count the activity in this forum, one might get a slight impression of whatÆs really going on down south. ASCN forum warriors are desperately (sic) trying to win a battle of words when they are loosing on the battlefield. Their forum presence only strenghtens our resolve to win the game where it is actually played.
Meanwhile, [G] Alliance is determined to give the interested public an objective view of the real battle: We are proud to announce that shortly the [G] kill board will go live. It has always been [G] policy to report both kills and losses. It also includes the battle which was fought over AZN and made the official news.
-WildCard CEO SteelVipers-
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2005.11.25 15:21:00 -
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k
"We brake for nobody"
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.11.25 15:24:00 -
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hi ice 
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.11.25 15:37:00 -
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i think the "g desperate" thread was interpreted by everyone as an "ascn desperate" thread.
gl guys
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.11.25 15:39:00 -
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Surrender did they o.O =)
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DeathForMeh
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Posted - 2005.11.25 15:39:00 -
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Your obveilys losing man I mean you havent even made post about what flag ships youve taken down. Make one about a cruiser class or higer and mabey i'll change my mind about whos winning and whos Desperate.
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SinBin
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Posted - 2005.11.25 15:41:00 -
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Good job G & Co hurt um bad.
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turnschuh
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Posted - 2005.11.25 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: turnschuh on 25/11/2005 15:41:14
Facts:
- You shoot ASCN while they had you blue.
- ASCN did not plan any attack on G.
- ASCN did not had 100 BS fleet ready to attack you
- You should not trust your spys
"fleet orders were already issued in their pvp channels."
thats proofes my last point.
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Laythun
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Posted - 2005.11.25 15:43:00 -
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well it looks like one side are trying to remain proffesional about the business in the south. i only hope the 'counter posts' are as abjective and structued as this
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k starwind
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:00:00 -
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we surrendered????? 0_o
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Sir Kad
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:02:00 -
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More [G] bull**** 4TW?? 
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:04:00 -
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lol that's some some agressive propaganda wildcard made 
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Josclyn Verreuil
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:05:00 -
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lol?
~Clan Verreuil |
AfterShock
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:06:00 -
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I know it is hard to resist a reply to this topic when it contains too may false statements, but those in Ascendant Frontier might want to hold back and let Cyvok or Steelrat reply to this one.
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Mallik Hendrake
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:12:00 -
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Propaganda is in the eye of the beholder. Having lived through the JQA crumbling I'm well aware of how easy it is to paint your aggressors as the evil power, but at the end of the day it's just a game, and everyone's motivations are `impure` - we all want to win.
So sit back, shut up, and fight for your space.
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Nepereta
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:14:00 -
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point me to the link where Cyvok publically surrendered? Surely as winners you would demand no less than this?
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PK CHAOS
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:15:00 -
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The [G] Spin Mogales are at it again.
We will have to see what my bosses retort is to this.
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:18:00 -
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roflmao wildcard you just made a joke of yourself and your whole alliance
"ASCN surrendering to G" LOL !!!!!
apparently molle pasting that log completely send you people crazy judging by your reactions on eve-o
good job rofl
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:20:00 -
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 Originally by: Nepereta
point me to the link where Cyvok publically surrendered? Surely as winners you would demand no less than this?
he is trying to explain that making a NAP with G during empire war would be equivalent to surrendering especially since G gained access to ASCN space while ASCN only gained peace. 
It's subtil
Want more of spin doctoring cake ?
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:20:00 -
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Edited by: Raid on 25/11/2005 16:25:17
Edited by: Raid on 25/11/2005 16:22:31
Originally by: Laythun
well it looks like one side are trying to remain proffesional about the business in the south. i only hope the 'counter posts' are as abjective and structued as this
Objective? are you joking? The whole post has a pro-g anti-south tone. Its their release they can do what they want with it but surely your using the wrong word here.
Just to add.. the "g desperate" part of the press release deals entirely with ASCN being forum *****s. At no point in this release have you addessed what happened or why. This appears as an attempt to avoid dealing with the chat log and throwing monkey **** at ASCN by calling them forum *****s.
OMG the forums edited the word monkey p00p... wtf are! we are not 5 year olds.
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Kamui Shiro
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:21:00 -
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Tsk.. tsk more [G] propaganda... if this is the response to the shame brought upon by the [G] desperate thread then this is really pathetic heh.
Since [G] is losing the present battle now they try to re write the past haha... You guys should fire whoever is behind these press releases.
Only questions i have to ask to [G] is, WHY ONLY NOW DO YOU RELEASE INFO ABOUT A WAR THAT TOOK PLACE 2-3 MONTHS AGO? Is this some sort of propaganda tactic to repair your damaged superpower image?
Piece of advise from someone who was a leader of a big successfull guild in another MMORPG, NEVER SAY YOU HAVE DEFEATED SOMEONE TILL YOU HAVE ACTUALLY DONE SO. You may post all the kills you want on your killboards but in my opinion, even if you got like 100+ kills if you still failed to take over an enemies teritory then that would still mean you failed.. Plain and simple!
Lets face it [G] was strong when they defeated SA(and i liked how [G] ran things during that time, they weren't desperate as they are now) but it would seem they let their win over SA get to their heads so they decided to start another war thinking it would go smoothly... well now they find it otherwise... |
Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Raid
Originally by: Laythun
well it looks like one side are trying to remain proffesional about the business in the south. i only hope the 'counter posts' are as abjective and structued as this
Objective? are you joking? The whole post has a pro-g anti-south tone. Its their release they can do what they want with it but surely your using the wrong word here.
Well at least thy not trolling around here. Of course every statement shows the opinion of the thread creator, but its a difference if you post "Rofl, omg lofl, so, pwn yo" or "I think you surrendered".
The mood of creator of a thread/post is sometimes most interesting 
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CYVOK
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:27:00 -
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You guys are so full of crap...
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VonKaplanek III
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:27:00 -
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/emote hands Steel some crayons...
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: CYVOK
You guys are so full of crap...
damn, you guys should recruit Nafri to handle your forum wars...
oh and... Nafri is a cheap forum ***** =]
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Coasterbrian
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: CYVOK
You guys are so full of crap...
Amen.
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first post w/ your main.
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Nepereta
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: CYVOK
You guys are so full of crap...
signed
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:40:00 -
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I sense bad vibrations, maybe you want to try it with a group hug?
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:42:00 -
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This thread must have a bad karma 
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Flipper slipper
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Posted - 2005.11.25 16:44:00 -
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Objective huh ?
Please let us all know what the convo with Sir Molle was about then (since obviousely you are not desperate :p)
Please explain surrender... noone i know in ASCN knows anything about surrendering to you, the way i heard it is that they allowed you to retract an ill planned empire war :p
Please explain how honorable G/IRON broke a NAP and started shooting at friendlies (blue) without a declaration of war
Lastly please explain exactly what you achieved vs ASCN so far... from where im looking its nothing, but it would be nice to have your version too
The way I see it you are lying, and backstabbing in the past... this post is only about lying though... a clear step forward.. good for you :) |
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