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Tsukino Stareine
The Red Circle Inc.
433
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Posted - 2013.07.03 03:06:00 -
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ham tengu is still better. Just don't do hybrids on a tengu: it's terrible. |

CcRaven
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.03 03:38:00 -
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[Tengu] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System I Ballistic Control System I
10MN Afterburner II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II EM Ward Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Engineering - Supplemental Coolant Injector Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Cheapest i could get, All skills L5, no implant. 701 dps / 200445 ehp. |

CcRaven
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.03 04:09:00 -
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[Tengu, 02] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
10MN Afterburner II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II EM Ward Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Under 700dps (696 dps) , 205883 ehp , cap stable 80%. All skills L5 , no implant/ link. Much cheaper with t1 rigs. |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
923
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Posted - 2013.07.03 10:30:00 -
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CcRaven wrote:[Tengu, 02] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
10MN Afterburner II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II EM Ward Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Under 700dps (696 dps) , 205883 ehp , cap stable 80%. All skills L5 , no implant/ link. Much cheaper with t1 rigs.
You forgot to add "this dps is only possible at 25km with absolute perfect skills, range where HACs are effective enough to make these Tengus unworthy and BSs will eat them alive"
Now take some of those silly stuff over there to prove smack points and give those missiles range to make the ship much better by offering a larger window of engagement while still keeping a very decent tank.
EFT is cool, indeed.
It's like 1.2K dps Proteus, everyone flies those over BSs, I see entier fleets of them all over null....or not. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos Whores in space
154
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:41:00 -
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here is a hint use 2 x 5% hardwires |

Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:28:00 -
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Quote:You forgot to add "this dps is only possible at 25km with absolute perfect skills, range where HACs are effective enough to make these Tengus unworthy and BSs will eat them alive"
Now take some of those silly stuff over there to prove smack points and give those missiles range to make the ship much better by offering a larger window of engagement while still keeping a very decent tank.
EFT is cool, indeed.
It's like 1.2K dps Proteus, everyone flies those over BSs, I see entier fleets of them all over null....or not
isnt ham tengu standard? which means 25km. Or tengus that actually get used have heavy missile launchers? |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
10510
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:54:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:Quote:You forgot to add "this dps is only possible at 25km with absolute perfect skills, range where HACs are effective enough to make these Tengus unworthy and BSs will eat them alive"
Now take some of those silly stuff over there to prove smack points and give those missiles range to make the ship much better by offering a larger window of engagement while still keeping a very decent tank.
EFT is cool, indeed.
It's like 1.2K dps Proteus, everyone flies those over BSs, I see entier fleets of them all over null....or not isnt ham tengu standard? which means 25km. Or tengus that actually get used have heavy missile launchers?
Some alliances fly HAMgus, but they're rather susceptible to countermeasures, since they're operating right inside heavy neut and gang bonused web range.
Put a couple of neuts, a few webs and a couple of TPs onto that "200k EHP" Tengu and it's a dead tengu pretty fast. Oh and for extra lols have your fleet anchor around a Typhoon with a set of True Sansha medium smartbombs - that will intercept a pretty large fraction of the incoming "700DPS"
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Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:56:00 -
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Whats a typhoon doing to intercept damage? |

CcRaven
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 04:49:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:CcRaven wrote:[Tengu, 02] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
10MN Afterburner II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II EM Ward Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Under 700dps (696 dps) , 205883 ehp , cap stable 80%. All skills L5 , no implant/ link. Much cheaper with t1 rigs. You forgot to add "this dps is only possible at 25km with absolute perfect skills, range where HACs are effective enough to make these Tengus unworthy and BSs will eat them alive" Now take some of those silly stuff over there to prove smack points and give those missiles range to make the ship much better by offering a larger window of engagement while still keeping a very decent tank. EFT is cool, indeed. It's like 1.2K dps Proteus, everyone flies those over BSs, I see entier fleets of them all over null....or not.
I forgot nothing, it s said : all skills L5 and Heavy ASSAULT missiles. I did not say it s the best but the cheapest and staying on topics ( 700dps/ 200k ehp)
Now take some of this silly arrogance stuff over to prove smack points and give thoses post some more relevance by offering a greater will to help while still keeping a low but decent profil.
And now i have to make a off topic post just to defend myself... Nerd elitist ( who can t read), unbeliveable.... |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
10522
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Posted - 2013.07.04 06:52:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:Whats a typhoon doing to intercept damage?
Smart bombs can destroy missiles.
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Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2013.07.04 18:46:00 -
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Thats interesting. So with decent timing i can mitigate a good chunkc of dps coming in |

Cage Man
242
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:43:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:Thats interesting. So with decent timing i can mitigate a good chunkc of dps coming in
With the new missile graphics, weell not all that new, you should be able to if you time it right. Just google firewalls, it was used in an attempt to mitigate the drake blobs damage when drake blobs were all the rage.. not sure how well they worked..
The thick plottens... |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
292
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Posted - 2013.07.05 04:10:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:Whats a typhoon doing to intercept damage?
smartbombs
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Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2013.07.05 04:12:00 -
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how much damage do misisles need to take to explode? |

El Gravy
Vicious Industrial Redrum Fleet
10
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:31:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:how much damage do misisles need to take to explode?
You know it's kinda funny. Missiles are the only ammo that takes a significant time to reload, a significant time to reach a target AND can be shot down. You would think by default the DPS would be well over 1000 on any standard T-GU fit. Just saying... |

Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
44
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Posted - 2013.07.05 09:55:00 -
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Another funny thing is that missiles never miss. |

jimbolina
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.07.05 12:06:00 -
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Bertrand Butler wrote:Another funny thing is that missiles never miss.
they do miss if they are destroyed! ^^ |

Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2013.07.05 14:22:00 -
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El Gravy wrote:Ciyrine wrote:how much damage do misisles need to take to explode? You know it's kinda funny. Missiles are the only ammo that takes a significant time to reload, a significant time to reach a target AND can be shot down. You would think by default the DPS would be well over 1000 on any standard T-GU fit. Just saying...
Quote:Another funny thing is that missiles never miss.
they can do crap for damage though which almost as bad. |
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