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Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.06.25 18:42:00 -
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Was reading topic someone said they prefered their tengu that did this. But disnt post a fit. Of the fits ive looked up i havent seen one that does this. And is there a database of shipbuilds i can look for such things? |

Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
298
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Posted - 2013.06.25 18:49:00 -
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Have you loaded EFT yet? Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |

Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.06.25 19:10:00 -
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Yes. Does it have a access to database of fits? |

Hakaimono
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly
161
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Posted - 2013.06.25 19:12:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:Yes. Does it have a access to database of fits? Experiment with it to get an understanding of what stats you can get from it. Hint: HAMs |

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
1330
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Posted - 2013.06.25 19:43:00 -
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Six HAMs with Scourge Rage and 4 CN BCUs. Accelerated Ejection Bay, naturally. Fit a tank around that. Rig for range. |

Baren
Aura of Darkness Nulli Secunda
18
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Posted - 2013.06.25 19:57:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:Was reading topic someone said they prefered their tengu that did this. But disnt post a fit. Of the fits ive looked up i havent seen one that does this. And is there a database of shipbuilds i can look for such things?
Did links or boosters ever come to mind. |

Whitehound
1472
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Posted - 2013.06.25 20:04:00 -
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696 DPS, 205k eHP, 293 HP/s recharge, stable at 61% (overheat: 819 DPS, 259k eHP, 373 HP/s recharge).
All T2 except for one C-Type Adpt. Inv. Field. No implants, no boosters, no fleet bonuses.
[Tengu]
Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile [Empty High slot]
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate Tengu Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |

Grandma Squirel
Squirel Enterprises
17
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Posted - 2013.06.26 00:03:00 -
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The question is always how pimp your allowed to go... 201k ehp with tengu links, 1250m/s, 775 dps. Only deadspace module is 75m. Not very good cap stability on MWD, but better then no prop mod.
High power 6x Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Medium power 1x Pith C-Type EM Ward Field 2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 1x Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I 2x Large Shield Extender II
Low power 1x Damage Control II 2x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System 1x Reactor Control Unit II
Rig Slot 1x Medium Core Defense Field Extender II 1x Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II 1x Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Sub System 1x Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer 1x Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening 1x Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir 1x Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst 1x Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Implants EG-603 SM-706
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Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
2054
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Posted - 2013.06.26 00:16:00 -
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EFT seems to be a dying art...
this is as close as I could get:
Quote:[Tengu, Test] Damage Control II Estamel's Modified Ballistic Control System Hakim's Modified Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
700dps 200,575ehp
PS: those figures are stupid easy to get higher than... lrn2fit |

Grandma Squirel
Squirel Enterprises
17
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Posted - 2013.06.26 00:28:00 -
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Use officer mods in EFT... tell others lrn2fit... gg |

Hakaimono
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly
161
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Posted - 2013.06.26 00:42:00 -
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Grandma Squirel wrote:Use officer mods in EFT... tell others lrn2fit... gg He was trying to be exact. |

Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
2054
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Posted - 2013.06.26 00:46:00 -
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Grandma Squirel wrote:Use officer mods in EFT... tell others lrn2fit... gg well you clearly missed what I was going for. that's ok ;) you need implants if you want to T2 fit it for 700+ dps and 200+ k ehp, or like 2 faction mods. given the simplicity and irrelevance of the given task, I decided to make a fit that was as close to 700dps and 200k ehp as i could get. getting exactly 700dps without officer mods seemed impossible with 4 damage mods (in hind sight, i could have looked at using 5 damage mods). ehp was never going to be exactly 200k so i accepted 575 over as close enough. |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
902
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Posted - 2013.06.26 12:08:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:Was reading topic someone said they prefered their tengu that did this. But disnt post a fit. Of the fits ive looked up i havent seen one that does this. And is there a database of shipbuilds i can look for such things?
Because it's simply impossible without Links implants combat boosters and titan bonus or a special snowflake fit working under very specific circumstances that those players forget intentionally to bring to our knowledge.
A solo player with the bulkiest effective Tengu fit will get at best without specific implants boosters and whatnot a simple 50k EHP +/- Tengu with the best possible dps.
A fleet Tengu if you look at the fit you can probably laugh at it and ask if it's not a noob or a kid that build it, but it's done for a specific purpose under specific circumstances and no they will not get 200k EHP without several links/boosts and whatnot which on it's own it's a lie since links are the main cause of so much incomprehension, silliness and completely OP fits. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
902
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Posted - 2013.06.26 12:13:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Grandma Squirel wrote:Use officer mods in EFT... tell others lrn2fit... gg well you clearly missed what I was going for. that's ok ;) you need implants if you want to T2 fit it for 700+ dps and 200+ k ehp, or like 2 faction mods. given the simplicity and irrelevance of the given task, I decided to make a fit that was as close to 700dps and 200k ehp as i could get. getting exactly 700dps without officer mods seemed impossible with 4 damage mods (in hind sight, i could have looked at using 5 damage mods). ehp was never going to be exactly 200k so i accepted 575 over as close enough.
With 4 simple T2 BCU's and HA spec at 4 only it's 850 dps, 800 with 3 T2 BCU's no dmg increase implants or rigs.
A T2 fitted Tengu you can't get 200K EHP out of nowhere, it's impossible without the addition of several bad implemented stupid mechanics. The problem is not the Tengu or the faction mods you put in to gimp it, the problem is links and how OP those are. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
902
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Posted - 2013.06.26 12:18:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:EFT seems to be a dying art... this is as close as I could get: Quote:[Tengu, Test] Damage Control II Estamel's Modified Ballistic Control System Hakim's Modified Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay 700dps 200,575ehp PS: those figures are stupid easy to get higher than... lrn2fit
Why I don't kills on any Tengu fitted with such uberness?? -it's not because EFT says it's possible that it's something to do, do you fly often 800K++ EHP proteus?
NO? -Why so if they're so awesome?
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.06.26 15:45:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Jack Miton wrote:EFT seems to be a dying art... this is as close as I could get: Quote:[Tengu, Test] Damage Control II Estamel's Modified Ballistic Control System Hakim's Modified Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay 700dps 200,575ehp PS: those figures are stupid easy to get higher than... lrn2fit Why I don't kills on any Tengu fitted with such uberness?? -it's not because EFT says it's possible that it's something to do, do you fly often 800K++ EHP proteus? NO? -Why so if they're so awesome?
so what if you drop the officer mods and lose some of the DPS/ehp something close to 700dps/200kehp sounds good. Any reason why peopl dont fly ships with stats in that ballpark?
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Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus S I L E N T.
69
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Posted - 2013.06.26 16:03:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Ciyrine wrote:Was reading topic someone said they prefered their tengu that did this. But disnt post a fit. Of the fits ive looked up i havent seen one that does this. And is there a database of shipbuilds i can look for such things? Because it's simply impossible without Links implants combat boosters and titan bonus or a special snowflake (see fits above to see what a snowflake fit is) working under very specific circumstances that those players forget intentionally to bring to our knowledge.
You must be really bad. It's very possible to go well over the mentioned dps/ehp figures with just a t2 fit (T2 rigs are definitely not out of place of a t3...
In a fleet (no booster), it is is over 200k ehp before any overloading and deals 770dps before overloading and implants... By t3 standards it's ANYTHING but pimped. Fits four times are expensive are killed in WH every days.
[Tengu, 700dps-200k] Damage Control II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Ciyrine wrote:Any reason why peopl dont fly ships with stats in that ballpark?
Because they fly much better mostly. |

Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
412
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Posted - 2013.06.26 16:15:00 -
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fairly sure nobody would fly a HAM tengu in pvp without a point. |

Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus S I L E N T.
69
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Posted - 2013.06.26 16:18:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:fairly sure nobody would fly a HAM tengu in pvp without a point.
When did the OP said PvP? 90% of Tengus must be PvE anyway.
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Whitehound
1478
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Posted - 2013.06.26 17:05:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:Any reason why peopl dont fly ships with stats in that ballpark? For PvE can one fit target painters and webs and does not need all that much eHP. For solo PvP will you want to give up a mid-slot to fit at least a warp disruptor or a scrambler and for fleets will you be aiming for high resistances, because you will have logistics with you. Once you get caught does it not matter all that much how much eHP you have. 200k eHP is a lot, but it is also about the eHP of a freighter. Then see what happens to freighters in high-sec. It does not really help when people want to pop you and really try.
The 200k eHP should have about ~300 eHP/s for recharge with 700 eHP/s as peak, I think. This is not all that impressive. For comparison, a dual repping Legion or Proteus can absorb 700 eHP/s omni damage. While the Tengu produces 700 DPS here is this really only because of its kinetic missile damage bonus. For all other damage types does it only do 560 DPS. Dual repping T3s will do around 600 DPS and should come about even with the Tengu. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |

Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
413
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Posted - 2013.06.26 17:11:00 -
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Caius Sivaris wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:fairly sure nobody would fly a HAM tengu in pvp without a point. When did the OP said PvP? 90% of Tengus must be PvE anyway.
why would you care about ehp on a pve tengu? |

Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.06.26 18:17:00 -
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Its for pvp |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1366
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Posted - 2013.06.26 18:20:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:Its for pvp
Man, I need to run a Locator on you...  "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |

Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus S I L E N T.
70
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Posted - 2013.06.26 18:50:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Caius Sivaris wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:fairly sure nobody would fly a HAM tengu in pvp without a point. When did the OP said PvP? 90% of Tengus must be PvE anyway. why would you care about ehp on a pve tengu?
Because sleepers/some plexes can have nasty alpha? The guy is posting non nonsensical question after non nonsensical question anyway, and all he got to show for his time in EVE is a badly fit Caracal loss in Rancer. |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
903
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Posted - 2013.06.26 18:58:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:fairly sure nobody would fly a HAM tengu in pvp without a point.
To counter an argument it's easy, pick EFT sort the dumbest thing you can to prove your point and that's it.
I have yet to be told to fly such crap the guy will get a finger. Snowflakes nothing but snowflakes.
Because of course I always fly in null sec without a point and web, My Tengu webs and scrams pilots down just by the sight of it...
Silly people... *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.06.26 19:04:00 -
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Caius Sivaris wrote:
Because sleepers/some plexes can have nasty alpha? The guy is posting non nonsensical question after non nonsensical question anyway, and all he got to show for his time in EVE is a badly fit Caracal loss in Rancer.
We cant all be as pro as u after 2 mos of playing. I played for a month 3 years ago. One of the 90% of new players who doesnt stick with the game. The other 10% being alts or real life friends that get spoon fed and quit further down the line.
When i came back into the game i accidentally bought a skill book in .4 and lost the caracal trying to grab it. Glad to see uve joined my fan club and will be following my career though. Long story short. Go f*** yourself |

Mr Floydy
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
107
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Posted - 2013.06.26 19:09:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:fairly sure nobody would fly a HAM tengu in pvp without a point.
Pretty sure they would at times. If they have friends who are handling the tackle. They're probably just there to apply 900 dps or so ;) |

Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus S I L E N T.
70
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Posted - 2013.06.26 19:11:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:Caius Sivaris wrote: Because sleepers/some plexes can have nasty alpha? The guy is posting non nonsensical question after non nonsensical question anyway, and all he got to show for his time in EVE is a badly fit Caracal loss in Rancer.
We cant all be as pro as u after 2 mos of playing.
Nope, but you could be smart enough to concern yourself with fits for ships you can actually fly and get actual in game experience with them instead of being that odd eft/forum warrior mix.
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Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.06.26 19:21:00 -
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Or i can theory the game to hell so i can plan my skills. Experience will come too |

Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
413
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Posted - 2013.06.26 19:36:00 -
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Mr Floydy wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:fairly sure nobody would fly a HAM tengu in pvp without a point. Pretty sure they would at times. If they have friends who are handling the tackle. They're probably just there to apply 900 dps or so ;)
I can understand if you're gatecamping or null warfare in bubbles but tengu is hardly seen in either of those situations.
I know it's a personal thing but ill be damned if im in a close range ship and not have a point |
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