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kieron	Posted - 2005.11.26 01:37:00 - [1] A critical bug was discovered in the code applied to Singularity recently. This bug allowed the one-shot destruction of celestial objects, like stations, stargates, asteroids, etc. Rebooting Singularity did not restore the objects. Needless to say, we consider this bug a show-stopper, and Singularity has been removed from player access until the bug is fixed. We apologize for the inconvenience this may cause, but since players are being stuck in systems where the stargates or stations have been destroyed, we feel this is the best step to take. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online

Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2005.11.26 01:46:00 - [2] 1st ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Rasitiln	Posted - 2005.11.26 01:47:00 - [3] 2nd and man im glad it was found
Cmdr Sy	Posted - 2005.11.26 01:49:00 - [4] Bug? How the hell do you 'accidentally' code something like that?
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2005.11.26 01:51:00 - [5] Originally by: Cmdr Sy Bug? How the hell do you 'accidentally' code something like that? They accidentally made a Death Star? Many SWG players exodus to Eve over the past few days. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Torquemanda Corteaz	Posted - 2005.11.26 01:56:00 - [6] you can easily miss a few 0's for celestials health, when doing all that coding.
Gunsnroses	Posted - 2005.11.26 02:01:00 - [7] Can we get a video of jita agent stations going boom?'
Cmdr Sy	Posted - 2005.11.26 02:06:00 - [8] Originally by: Gunsnroses Can we get a video of jita agent stations going boom?' Planet 4, Moon 4. With all the people in it. Oh god please YES!
Gunstar Zero	Posted - 2005.11.26 02:06:00 - [9] oh man, that would be fun Though I'd probably shoot all the stargates in a system and get stuck.
Nelix Trist	Posted - 2005.11.26 02:06:00 - [10] not only SWG, - i got about 5 players from wow join/interact with my corp over the past 2 weeks :) ---------------------------------- Emm?

Kaeten	Posted - 2005.11.26 02:11:00 - [11] Latest Movie: Defusun Incident
Ribbo	Posted - 2005.11.26 02:11:00 - [12] i've used this exploit in Tranq to destroy Yulai X Ded... whats that, it's respawned!!!! stewards!!!! bar stewards!
Sobeseki Pawi	Posted - 2005.11.26 02:11:00 - [13] You didnt have to take it out. Just invent 1600mm Super Howitzors and give them that special ability. ~Captain Cutie, ISC Event Horizon Biomass fears me. Sovereignty 2.0
Rohann	Posted - 2005.11.26 02:19:00 - [14] Can you reactivate User deactivated accounts on sisi please? I am itching to test rmr.
Wuubaa	Posted - 2005.11.26 02:25:00 - [15] its cos i blew up tomb's titans wasnt it?
SengH	Posted - 2005.11.26 02:41:00 - [16] I wonder how long before tk8s flash vid gets linked.
patch	Posted - 2005.11.26 02:55:00 - [17] .... Originally by: "bUBbLeS" they dont have rollercoatsers in france he was trying to figure out how to turn it over and set it on fire
Tekka	Posted - 2005.11.26 03:08:00 - [18] Originally by: Wuubaa its cos i blew up tomb's titans wasnt it? How could you kill TomB's titan if you couldnt even manage to kill DJ? <3<3<3 »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
Fendor Atar	Posted - 2005.11.26 03:17:00 - [19] i was inside that station.... shiver

kieron	Posted - 2005.11.26 03:25:00 - [20] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Cmdr Sy Bug? How the hell do you 'accidentally' code something like that? They accidentally made a Death Star? Many SWG players exodus to Eve over the past few days. I kept saying the Death Star POS was a bad idea in the content team meetings, but Oveur insisted. He muttered something about not having the only titan after RMR's deployment and wanted to up the ante. On a more serious note, there are a whole range of potential causes for the bug. Someone in the thread mentioned putting a wrong number of zeros in a database entry. One of the vols said it could be a missing if/then statement. Regardless of the cause, the Devs are looking into the issue and will have it resolved in the very near future. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online


Acoloss	Posted - 2005.11.26 03:34:00 - [21] Be honest now, it was just TomB showing off.
Esrevatem Dlareme	Posted - 2005.11.26 03:34:00 - [22] Well. It's obvious that celestial objects aren't supposed to be able to take damage. But now they can...but they prolly don't have any hit points associated with them, so when they get shot... Do we have any sort of ETA on when the server might be back up? Are we looking at possibly days offline? ______________________________________________ As I stand, dazzled by the shattered twilight, I think back... I think back to all the events that have brought me here. And I realize... I realize I was ment to come here. Someone wanted me to come here. And now, I have come here.
Raem Civrie	Posted - 2005.11.26 03:36:00 - [23] Whatever it was, it made for a rather hilarious bug --- God-King of Genitalia
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2005.11.26 03:45:00 - [24] Originally by: kieron Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Cmdr Sy Bug? How the hell do you 'accidentally' code something like that? They accidentally made a Death Star? Many SWG players exodus to Eve over the past few days. I kept saying the Death Star POS was a bad idea in the content team meetings, but Oveur insisted. He muttered something about not having the only titan after RMR's deployment and wanted to up the ante. On a more serious note, there are a whole range of potential causes for the bug. Someone in the thread mentioned putting a wrong number of zeros in a database entry. One of the vols said it could be a missing if/then statement. Regardless of the cause, the Devs are looking into the issue and will have it resolved in the very near future. I would guess there's a flag on all celestial objects that renders them unkillable. I would expect that stations with shields would be left unaffected, as they still have hitpoints and don't have this flag. Somewhere, someone broke that flag. - Proud member of the [23]. Don't get the reference in my sig? Click it.
Tekka	Posted - 2005.11.26 03:53:00 - [25] So any ETA on when server will be back? »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
Rasitiln	Posted - 2005.11.26 04:27:00 - [26] Just imagine if the bug had made it on the TQ PS where the people who discoverd the bug punished? IMHO I dont think they should be. Though blowing up all the stargates may have been excessive
Vina	Posted - 2005.11.26 04:46:00 - [27] ^___________________________________^ ----------------------------------- btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2005.11.26 06:03:00 - [28] Originally by: kieron One of the vols said it could be a missing if/then statement. Regardless of the cause, the Devs are looking into the issue and will have it resolved in the very near future. Maybe they added some if/then? IF station == damage.taken > 0 Then station == pwned ------------------------------------ Your Civilian Gatling Railgun perfectly strikes Choke Slam [CAIN], wrecking for 6.0 damage.
Dao 2	Posted - 2005.11.26 06:13:00 - [29] i think the person that first found this should not be banned ;p because he obviously like :\| saved eve ;p
Lisa Run	Posted - 2005.11.26 06:45:00 - [30] After hours camping a station last night, I like the idea. 'Come out of your station or the whole thing gets vaporized. HAHAHA !!!!' Sorry, should go to bed now. Almost 8 o'clock in the morning.

sonofollo	Posted - 2005.11.26 07:45:00 - [31] hmmmm one shot kill ( would that work on roids ?) moons the suns
Dao 2	Posted - 2005.11.26 08:19:00 - [32] Originally by: sonofollo hmmmm one shot kill ( would that work on roids ?) moons the suns cant lock moons and suns ;p good bye billboards :D
Darth Revanant	Posted - 2005.11.26 08:30:00 - [33] Would it be too much to ask to apply the latest mirror while the server's down? I really want to test. _______________
Wrayeth	Posted - 2005.11.26 08:40:00 - [34] Originally by: Darth Revanant Would it be too much to ask to apply the latest mirror while the server's down? I really want to test. That'd be badass. I have a bunch of skills I've trained up on TQ since the last mirror that will help with testing - after all, without tech 2 dual-650's, how am I supposed to test the tech 2 large projectile ammo? -Wrayeth
R31D	Posted - 2005.11.26 09:08:00 - [35] Originally by: Gunstar Zero oh man, that would be fun Though I'd probably shoot all the stargates in a system and get stuck. coughPf-346cough shame I was in a pod and missed the fun though Free bumpage for all
Gothikia	Posted - 2005.11.26 10:15:00 - [36] hilarious bug, lol, wont forget this for a while :D hehe, oh man... the chaos if it made it to TQ... -- Gothikia :)
Jet Calhoun	Posted - 2005.11.26 10:17:00 - [37] LOL! Go testers! Good job that. -- Lose != Loose Lose (v) - To suffer loss. Loose (adj) - Not fastened, restrained, or contained.
QwaarJet	Posted - 2005.11.26 10:28:00 - [38] Good job guys, I'm stuck in station for good until this is resolved. "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimter Of Wisdom.Run!"
Darius Shakor	Posted - 2005.11.26 10:42:00 - [39] Well then, at least this was found before anyone tried to commit suicide on TQ and found they could wipe out the universe. That guy should not actually be punished when you think about it. By the way Kieron, does this delay testing at your end for RMR? Or is development not hindered by this? (ie, is sisi not critical to testing for the DEVs other than mixing it with current stuff on the server?) And will RMR be delayed much if this takes a while to fix? ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal Every man has a devil. You can never rest until you find it.
Seleene	Posted - 2005.11.26 10:49:00 - [40] Patch the Dread's jump range on Tranquility! NOW!! Please n' stuff!! - The REAL Eve Political Map!

Andrue	Posted - 2005.11.26 11:04:00 - [41] Originally by: kieron A critical bug was discovered in the code applied to Singularity recently. This bug allowed the one-shot destruction of celestial objects, like stations, stargates, asteroids, etc. Rebooting Singularity did not restore the objects. Needless to say, we consider this bug a show-stopper, and Singularity has been removed from player access until the bug is fixed. We apologize for the inconvenience this may cause, but since players are being stuck in systems where the stargates or stations have been destroyed, we feel this is the best step to take. Spoil sport. I'd have loved to fly to my Agent's station and... ..well you get the idea -- (Battle hardened miner) [Brackley, UK] WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality.
fairimear	Posted - 2005.11.26 11:07:00 - [42] was the 1 hit bug from using modulated strip miner 2's on stations?

Valar	Posted - 2005.11.26 11:26:00 - [43] Originally by: Darius Shakor By the way Kieron, does this delay testing at your end for RMR? Or is development not hindered by this? (ie, is sisi not critical to testing for the DEVs other than mixing it with current stuff on the server?) And will RMR be delayed much if this takes a while to fix? Our bughunters and other ISD volunteers can access Chaos for testing. If the database is corrupt because of this issue, we have a new mirror standing by. People were wondering how this could happen, and have posted some specualtion. Since the last Singularity update there have been a number of huge changes that could have caused this, the biggest one being the integration of the new effect system. It would not surprise me if that was the cause. I'll give you an ETA for Sisi when I know more. ------ Valar Quality assurance department CCP games How to write a good bugreport

Kuolematon	Posted - 2005.11.26 11:51:00 - [44] There goes my pvp whoring @ EVE ________________________________________________________ "@(Hammerhead) but like, I'm not a programmer, I just nerf you guys"
Wotok	Posted - 2005.11.26 12:12:00 - [45] Edited by: Wotok on 26/11/2005 12:12:27 Originally by: Valar I'll give you an ETA for Sisi when I know more. and please please please tell us exactly what's been the cause -- Wotok has no brain!
Elenia Kheynes	Posted - 2005.11.26 12:16:00 - [46] a shame that bug didn't make it to TQ imagines the panic in empire space for agent runners and 0.0 with outposts worth 20B getting vaporized Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
HippoKing	Posted - 2005.11.26 12:24:00 - [47] both me and my clones were in FCC
Zaridin	Posted - 2005.11.26 13:32:00 - [48] Edited by: Zaridin on 26/11/2005 13:33:25 Originally by: Valar Since the last Singularity update there have been a number of huge changes that could have caused this, the biggest one being the integration of the new effect system. It would not surprise me if that was the cause. Translation: The Jedi Mind Tricks that the art department have attempted on Sisi, have no effect on me. I am already fixing the problem and will be finished if all the pizza and beer hold out. My new office area wasnt quite the one I wanted, and I will be using this display of OMGFIXED to take over the office with the better view of the 133t babes. ...who cares about apathy?... An elephant is a mouse drawn to government specifications.
Admiral Keyes	Posted - 2005.11.26 13:54:00 - [49] Thats why i couldnt dock at the fight club station yesterday, some noobtard blew it up
MOOstradamus	Posted - 2005.11.26 14:04:00 - [50] Edited by: MOOstradamus on 26/11/2005 14:03:58 SWEETASTIC !! MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."

Borothis Quishir	Posted - 2005.11.26 14:51:00 - [51] Yea I tried logging on yesterday but I was docked in fight club and it just stalled when the station loading thing finished who knew I had died :)

Redundancy	Posted - 2005.11.26 15:53:00 - [52] Originally by: Valar Since the last Singularity update there have been a number of huge changes that could have caused this, the biggest one being the integration of the new effect system. It would not surprise me if that was the cause. Slander and lies, the big clue being that it's not just graphically missing

SPIONKOP	Posted - 2005.11.26 16:06:00 - [53] I guess its one way to remove instas and gate ganking.
Jon Xylur	Posted - 2005.11.26 16:18:00 - [54] I bet you were coding the Titan's superweapon and accidentally made all guns do the same damage. Or you got bored of hearing people say thei'r guns are underpowered: "Blasters don't do enough damage? Lets me them blow up entire planets! How'd you lie that?!"
Mathias Zealot	Posted - 2005.11.26 17:09:00 - [55] i should really leave sisi alone more often, i leave for thanksgiving and people figure out how to blow up everything i can only wonder... did they drop lootcans?
Sochin	Posted - 2005.11.26 17:37:00 - [56] Pleeeaaase remirror Sisi with a fresh copy of Tranq! I reaaallllllyyy want to test but my account was deactivated until like two weeks ago! Nemo me impune lacessit
Hydrian Alante	Posted - 2005.11.26 17:56:00 - [57] Originally by: Sochin Pleeeaaase remirror Sisi with a fresh copy of Tranq! I reaaallllllyyy want to test but my account was deactivated until like two weeks ago! Same here. The Data on Sisi was to old for me to test anything. (~4 months acc)
Darius Shakor	Posted - 2005.11.26 18:42:00 - [58] Originally by: Redundancy Originally by: Valar Since the last Singularity update there have been a number of huge changes that could have caused this, the biggest one being the integration of the new effect system. It would not surprise me if that was the cause. Slander and lies, the big clue being that it's not just graphically missing Ahh-Hah! Now we know who coded the new effects system that Valar speaks of! It's all your fault for giving stations the Cloaking effect Redundancy. ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal Every man has a devil. You can never rest until you find it.

Valar	Posted - 2005.11.26 19:58:00 - [59] It was actually not the effect system that caused this. It was a tiny change to undocking restriction code that caused this as a side-effect. This is fixed now and Singularity is back up. ------ Valar Quality assurance department CCP games How to write a good bugreport

Torquemanda Corteaz	Posted - 2005.11.26 20:14:00 - [60] thanks for the swift fix valar

QwaarJet	Posted - 2005.11.26 20:33:00 - [61] Why is the patch so farking big? "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimter Of Wisdom.Run!"
Sarmaul	Posted - 2005.11.26 20:40:00 - [62] Originally by: SengH I wonder how long before tk8s flash vid gets linked. 3 Pages Originally by: Chowdown We camp a lot
Ifni	Posted - 2005.11.26 21:01:00 - [63] Did someone mention a Deathstar? Or this one? ( Without UI) Oveur > CUZ IM EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEME!!!!
Darth Revanant	Posted - 2005.11.26 21:06:00 - [64] MIRROOOORRRRRRR!!!!!! Please? _______________
Atum	Posted - 2005.11.27 02:51:00 - [65] Originally by: Valar It was a tiny change to undocking restriction code that caused this as a side-effect. Ok, everyone hear that? Don't dock, you'll cause a twist-core breach that will allow folks with twinklers and light balls to use their "I win" buttons again!
F'nog	Posted - 2005.11.27 05:35:00 - [66] So what happened to the people and items in the stations when they blew up? Was everyone killed and everything destroyed? Originally by: rowbin hod Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.
Kuolematon	Posted - 2005.11.28 07:18:00 - [67] Don't mirror! I have new armor skills at lvl4 and I enjoy my passive hardeners giving me 45% boost ________________________________________________________ "@(Hammerhead) but like, I'm not a programmer, I just nerf you guys"
theRaptor	Posted - 2005.11.28 10:51:00 - [68] Originally by: F'nog So what happened to the people and items in the stations when they blew up? Was everyone killed and everything destroyed? From reading other threads they either couldnt log in, or if they had been logged in at the time they couldnt undock. I, don't, think, you, trust, in my self-righteous suicide.
Andrue	Posted - 2005.11.28 14:38:00 - [69] Originally by: theRaptor Originally by: F'nog So what happened to the people and items in the stations when they blew up? Was everyone killed and everything destroyed? From reading other threads they either couldnt log in, or if they had been logged in at the time they couldnt undock. "I'm sorry, you can't undock at the moment. Scotty the docking manager says he needs to rebuild the station first." -- (Battle hardened miner) [Brackley, UK] WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality.


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