Originally by: Elve Sorrow

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Only people with an IQ over 80 should be allowed to post.

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Originally by: Arti K

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Just like every single post Detaurus has made, he is absolutely 100% correct. His logic is clear and infallible. Personally I'm surprised there haven't been posts relating him to being jesus yet.

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1 Billion isk currently sells on ebay for about $225
90 day GTC $38.95 Currently selling for 300mill

Therefore 1Bill isk costs you $129.50.

Originally by: Ithildin

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Let's see.

a) You're whining over the extenders (mid slots) that'll make ships have more hit points.
b) You're whining over ECCM (mid slots) that'll make ships have more sensor strength.

Together that makes you: whine over two concepts that are foreign to each other. To gain a good amount of sensor strength you need to sacrifice heavily in tanking.

Could you at least consolidate your whines into single points, preferably with examples and arguments, instead of drawing multiple points you are dissatisnfied with into every topic and presenting them with lacking rhethorics and a complete lack of proof?

P.S. Sensor dampeners are nowhere near overpowered. They are a rightly pain to use because of their short optimal range, and in several situations even several successful activations of this module on a target will not matter because the lock has already been completed.

P.P.S. A 6 racial scorpion trying to jam a 70 seonsor strength (Sorpion?) ship with max levels and standard T1 equipment will have a 57.8% chance of succeding in a jam every 20 seconds (135km optimal range, 33.75 falloff). This is rather impressive, considering that the enemy battleship is sacrificing no less than 3 mid slots in order to become less vulnerable to ECM.
In a more normal situation you'd probably use two racial ECM (trying to jam several battleships at the same time) or possibly 4 multi (I don't know what you are doing with the rest of the mids here...). In the first case you'll have merely 25% chance of success and in the second a 31.2% chance.
In all of these hypothetical situations you can be safely assumed to have 2 sensor boosters of moderate quality, thus improving your locktime considerably over the enemy battleship you attempt to lock. The enemy battleship can safely be assumed not to have enough mid slots left to commit to electronic warfare.

The Scorpion has never been intended as a damage dealer, ever since they moved jamming from high slots to mid slots. (And thus made Caldari the EWar race instead of Gallente...)

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Originally by: Toshiro Khan

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hmmmm have you ever wondered why in fleet battles that a scorp is normally the ship to be called primary?

Have you ever thought that the scorp being a jamming ship, is a ship that was designed to be used in a group as a support ship?

Have you ever concidered that, a scorps main weapon is its jamming ability?

as its stands, with a little bit of luck and high enough skills its possible for a scorp to jam up to 8 different targets at once.. but this is balanced by its poor turret/missle weapons along with its poor locking time which is to counter the fact that the scorp has the best base locking range.

And no doub't come the RMR patch.. the scorp will still be the ship most commonly called primary.. it will still be able to jam up to 8 targets with skills and a little bit of luck..

Oh most people run a sensor booster or two on their scorps and the 8 targets being jamed is a theroetical number, as people also tend to put more then 1 jammer on a target.. and btw its bonuses do relate to its main weapon... that being ECM target jammers plus please remember SiSI is a test server... more often then not.. things get changed/nerfed/fixed(/broken ) before they hit the main server.. so please stop with the whole sky is falling down bit.. or if you can't do that have your name changed to chicken little.

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Originally by: Detaurus

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Edited by: Detaurus on 28/11/2005 06:28:47
All ships Hit Points Raised

Extender Requirements Lowered

3 ECCM Grants a 70 Sensor Strength

And what is to stop the perfect counter of RSD, as the scorpion is one of the slowest locking ships in game

Good luck breaking any tank with any scorpion setup, as it is the ONLY BATTLESHIP TO NOT HAVE A BONUS RELATED TO ITS HIGH SLOTS.

Special Ability: 5% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength and 20% bonus to ECM Target Jammer optimal range per level

Use damps, use disruptors

NO

the scorpion must use jammers or it is not even adhering to its own damn benefits

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Originally by: Scalor Valentis

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I dont know, i had fun fight yestuday 2 vs 2 against tempest and scorp on SiSi.

Scorp kept us jammed all the time so we had to warp out.


I can clearly, and Flame free, state that Scorpion works - All form my own testing and experience.

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Originally by: Cookie

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I think the Kestrel totally sucks at mining.
It should get a boost.

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Originally by: Furion35

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Edited by: Furion35 on 28/11/2005 07:05:14

Originally by: Arti K

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Just like every single post Detaurus has made, he is absolutely 100% correct. His logic is clear and infallible. Personally I'm surprised there haven't been posts relating him to being jesus yet.

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He's also very open and vocal about his opinions. Not quite a bad thing, his threads are good, have a clear point and bring up good debates which are only tainted by flames and related useless remarks. This is what the forums are for: the expression of everyone's opinion, however, it is prefered to be done in a constructive and relatively polite way.

At least this way i dont have to read setup threads which are already on sticky everyday. Its even a bit comical that Detaurus has to make so many threads by himself to address the current issues in eve.

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Originally by: vanake

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Originally by: Toshiro Khan

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hmmmm have you ever wondered why in fleet battles that a scorp is normally the ship to be called primary?

Have you ever thought that the scorp being a jamming ship, is a ship that was designed to be used in a group as a support ship?

Have you ever concidered that, a scorps main weapon is its jamming ability?

as its stands, with a little bit of luck and high enough skills its possible for a scorp to jam up to 8 different targets at once.. but this is balanced by its poor turret/missle weapons along with its poor locking time which is to counter the fact that the scorp has the best base locking range.

And no doub't come the RMR patch.. the scorp will still be the ship most commonly called primary.. it will still be able to jam up to 8 targets with skills and a little bit of luck..

Oh most people run a sensor booster or two on their scorps and the 8 targets being jamed is a theroetical number, as people also tend to put more then 1 jammer on a target.. and btw its bonuses do relate to its main weapon... that being ECM target jammers plus please remember SiSI is a test server... more often then not.. things get changed/nerfed/fixed(/broken ) before they hit the main server.. so please stop with the whole sky is falling down bit.. or if you can't do that have your name changed to chicken little.

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here is a perfect example of someone posting without even flying the ship.
No way scorp is going to jamm 8 ships. It needs atleast 2 sensor boosters and that leave room only for 6 jammer. With 6 jammers you MAYBE jamm 3 BS, usually its 2.

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