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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction
Whores in space
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:08:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Winter Archipelago wrote:Attracting new players is one thing, and is an admirable ambition. Sacrificing everything that makes EvE unique and turning it into another pump'n'dump game in order to do so is not. CCP doesn't have much of a choice. If they don't compete, and the MMO players decline (due to consoles), they have to do something. This is not even close to happen. First because PC games are the bases of all gaming styles you ever see around and second because consoles are getting closer and closer of just another PC and not the other way around.  You're chasing ghosts. When gaming companies embraced consoles as the means to deliver their product, what do you think the outcome would be? PC gaming growing? They're going at best hybrid now. BF3 is a perfect example of it, XBox; PS3 and PC. And that's the future of gaming. I don't make the decisions, I'm just pointing out the reality.
Gamming is a business as long as there are people that want proper PC games, there will be a market for that and game swill come.
There are lots of games that woudl FAIl and flop completely if they tried to be on consoles.
Also superior people with smarter minds have more money to spend, and they 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of time prefer PC games. |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
536
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:11:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Winter Archipelago wrote:Attracting new players is one thing, and is an admirable ambition. Sacrificing everything that makes EvE unique and turning it into another pump'n'dump game in order to do so is not. CCP doesn't have much of a choice. If they don't compete, and the MMO players decline (due to consoles), they have to do something. This is not even close to happen. First because PC games are the bases of all gaming styles you ever see around and second because consoles are getting closer and closer of just another PC and not the other way around. You're chasing ghosts. When gaming companies embraced consoles as the means to deliver their product, what do you think the outcome would be? PC gaming growing? They're going at best hybrid now. BF3 is a perfect example of it, XBox; PS3 and PC. And that's the future of gaming. I don't make the decisions, I'm just pointing out the reality. Gamming is a business as long as there are people that want proper PC games, there will be a market for that and game swill come. There are lots of games that woudl FAIl and flop completely if they tried to be on consoles. Also superior people with smarter minds have more money to spend, and they 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of time prefer PC games.
*Citation needed* |
Rumtin
Imperium Technologies
Get Off My Lawn
20
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:14:00 -
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This is quite possibly amoung one of the worst things CCP could do to EvE Online and other EvE related topics. EA has for the past two years held the title of the worst gaming company in history. Inside the industry the gaming community have known just how bad EA titles have ben. Look at the companies EA has bought out like Westwood, Maxis, Bioware, Origins all great companies prior to EA getting their greedy hands on them. Now look at them, ruined titles or just run into the ground. EvE is on the rise and is doing rather well compared fo its competitors, but this move really has the potential to ruin that, just like how EA is a ruined company today. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
558
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:15:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote: Also superior people with smarter minds have more money to spend.
I disagree
"The mind of the superior man is conversant with righteousness; the mind of the ordinary man is conversant with gain." - Confucious (Analects, bk. iv., c. xxi.)
" Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
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Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
537
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:26:00 -
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Rumtin wrote:This is quite possibly amoung one of the worst things CCP could do to EvE Online and other EvE related topics. EA has for the past two years held the title of the worst gaming company in history. Inside the industry the gaming community have known just how bad EA titles have ben. Look at the companies EA has bought out like Westwood, Maxis, Bioware, Origins all great companies prior to EA getting their greedy hands on them. Now look at them, ruined titles or just run into the ground. EvE is on the rise and is doing rather well compared fo its competitors, but this move really has the potential to ruin that, just like how EA is a ruined company today.
Just checked the shareholder PDF from EA. I wish I was ruined like them... |
Verunae Caseti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:37:00 -
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Rumtin wrote:This is quite possibly amoung one of the worst things CCP could do to EvE Online
Nothing?
Nothing is quite possibly "amoung" the worst things CCP could do to EVE?
Because that's what you've got to ***** about so far.
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Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2279
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:51:00 -
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Wow, they actually topped the mintchip decision.
inb4 new zero tolerance iron first of control policy on the forums.
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Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
15
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:57:00 -
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This thread should be required reading for the new guy. Just maybe it'll add a little perspective on how loved EVE is and to serve as a cautionary tale. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released
Verge of Collapse
2201
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:57:00 -
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Rumtin wrote:This is quite possibly amoung one of the worst things CCP could do to EvE Online and other EvE related topics. EA has for the past two years held the title of the worst gaming company in history. Inside the industry the gaming community have known just how bad EA titles have ben. Look at the companies EA has bought out like Westwood, Maxis, Bioware, Origins all great companies prior to EA getting their greedy hands on them. Now look at them, ruined titles or just run into the ground. EvE is on the rise and is doing rather well compared fo its competitors, but this move really has the potential to ruin that, just like how EA is a ruined company today.
EA hasn't bought CCP because we would have heard about it a long time ago and the same thing can pretty much be said about Sony "owning" CCP.
Also, CCP is a privately held company unlike EA that is a public company.
Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
537
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:57:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Wow, they actually topped the mintchip decision. inb4 new zero tolerance iron first of control policy on the forums.
Because you think a company should tolerate personnal attacks against thier employee? |
Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2279
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:01:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Anslo wrote:Wow, they actually topped the mintchip decision. inb4 new zero tolerance iron first of control policy on the forums. Because you think a company should tolerate personnal attacks against thier employee?
Depends whether Overseer EA defines personal attacks loosely (banned for talking down to the company) or tightly (deservedly banned for legitimately trashing a dev for his personal life).
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released
Verge of Collapse
2201
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:03:00 -
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Tzar Sinak wrote:This thread should be required reading for the new guy. Just maybe it'll add a little perspective on how loved EVE is and to serve as a cautionary tale.
Pray tell, what perspective would that be? That a large part of the EVE community suffers from Paranoid-schizoid tendencies (esp. paranoid anxiety) and it rants and rants without being advised to seek help?
Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1456
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:08:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Anslo wrote:Wow, they actually topped the mintchip decision. inb4 new zero tolerance iron first of control policy on the forums. Because you think a company should tolerate personnal attacks against thier employee?
EA are rather notorious for their forumdickery to be fair. Banning people for criticisms, banning people from all their games for a forum rule violation, etc. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
560
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:09:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Anslo wrote:Wow, they actually topped the mintchip decision. inb4 new zero tolerance iron first of control policy on the forums. Because you think a company should tolerate personnal attacks against thier employee? EA are rather notorious for their forumdickery to be fair. Banning people for criticisms, banning people from all their games for a forum rule violation, etc.
I can see EA EU Customer Support from my desk btw.....
" Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
Tell The Others |
Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2280
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:12:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:I can see EA EU Customer Support from my desk btw.....
Glare at them through the window til they clearly feel awkward.
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Ignis Draconis
nul-li-fy
Nulli Secunda
5
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:14:00 -
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I do not like this at all! He should keep his dirty money grubbing fingers off from eve... I couldn't care less of what he does to DUST.... but keep him WAAAAY AWAY from eve... SRSLY!!! |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
560
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:14:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:I can see EA EU Customer Support from my desk btw..... Glare at them through the window til they clearly feel awkward.
Some of them play EvE when they think no one is watching lol
" Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
Tell The Others |
Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2280
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:19:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Anslo wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:I can see EA EU Customer Support from my desk btw..... Glare at them through the window til they clearly feel awkward. Some of them play EvE when they think no one is watching lol
Glare with a print out of the Cyno icon, point at them, and then your eyes, and then back to them.
They'll get the picture.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
562
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:20:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Anslo wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:I can see EA EU Customer Support from my desk btw..... Glare at them through the window til they clearly feel awkward. Some of them play EvE when they think no one is watching lol Glare with a print out of the Cyno icon, point at them, and then your eyes, and then back to them. They'll get the picture.
Funny, I was thinking of waiting till they went to the toilet,t hen dropping a post-it of a covert cyno onto their monitor
" Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
Tell The Others |
Adunh Slavy
1070
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:23:00 -
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Anslo wrote:
Glare with a print out of the Cyno icon, point at them, and then your eyes, and then back to them.
They'll get the picture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osvLul5kTHM |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
562
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:25:00 -
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You Cube is blocked in this place :(
" Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
Tell The Others |
Ignis Draconis
nul-li-fy
Nulli Secunda
5
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:26:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Anslo wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:I can see EA EU Customer Support from my desk btw..... Glare at them through the window til they clearly feel awkward. Some of them play EvE when they think no one is watching lol Glare with a print out of the Cyno icon, point at them, and then your eyes, and then back to them. They'll get the picture.
This post gave me kidney failure! |
KnowUsByTheDead
Knights of the Dark Rose
147
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:29:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Tzar Sinak wrote:This thread should be required reading for the new guy. Just maybe it'll add a little perspective on how loved EVE is and to serve as a cautionary tale. Pray tell, what perspective would that be? That a large part of the EVE community suffers from Paranoid-schizoid tendencies (esp. paranoid anxiety) and it rants and rants without being advised to seek help?
You know, under normal circumstances, I think it would a lot less of an issue. But it had now been 24 hours, and CCP has yet to press release. Decker has yet to address the playerbase. And this threadnaught will continue to grow until either the company or the man addresses it. I was able read an article from gamesindustry.biz about how he was being brought in specifically for EVR, DUST, and what will obviously be a VERY VERY microtransaction-driven World Of Darkness. Which is all very ok, not only by me, but by the rest of the EVE community. If this guy can turn the mobile platform into a something workable, like mobile market, or mobile PI.....I am all for it. The article even went so far as to quote that EVE, "would remain CCP's flagship title under the same existing format it always has," which alleviates a lot of worry, but these are things that devs should be telling me, not games media sites.
Look how long it took CCP to issue statements after the Summer Of Rage. I think personally they need to get their hands around this thing, address fears and concerns, before something cataclysmic happens, (i.e., a leaked internal newsletter laying out a total move to microtransactions.)
And it has nothing to do with paranoia. It has to do with the hundreds and possibly thousands of players that subscribe to this game, month after month, pouring their hard earned dollars into it. I seldom play much other than EVE, and I personally want to make sure my ability to wind down is going to be here in the iteration I currently play, for several years to come. Because I did find this absolutely magical place, ironically my "first mmo," not the "other one." And I, just like every other person who posted their feelings on this matter, deserve to speak their voice and minds, especially when trying to protect the world WE ALL have come to enjoy and love. |
Digits Kho
Gerodian corp.
SOLAR WING
0
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:30:00 -
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Its only normal that CCP is trying to find ways to make more money since they need to eat also . BUT this EA guy they found better keep his EA **** back at his EA office and not bring it to EvE. Theres a reason why i play a CCP game and not a game that has something to do with EA or their endless fails . |
Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2283
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:32:00 -
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So the plan is to swarm EA EU Customer Service HQ and spam their main entrance by covering it with sticky notes of covert cyno fields and slowly backing away Grease style, snapping and bobbing a bit with each step til we're all on the bus.
Good work guys, good work.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
565
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:34:00 -
[626] - Quote
Anslo wrote:So the plan is to swarm EA EU Customer Service HQ and spam their main entrance by covering it with sticky notes of covert cyno fields and slowly backing away Grease style, snapping and bobbing a bit with each step til we're all on the bus.
Good work guys, good work.
Im the warp in, but Im too paranoid to make Fleet, sorry
" Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
Tell The Others |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
537
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:39:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Anslo wrote:Wow, they actually topped the mintchip decision. inb4 new zero tolerance iron first of control policy on the forums. Because you think a company should tolerate personnal attacks against thier employee? Depends whether Overseer EA defines personal attacks loosely (banned for talking down to the company) or tightly (deservedly banned for legitimately trashing a dev for his personal life).
The article you linked clearly imply direct personnal attack.
As for talking down to the company, I invite people to read the following :
Yelling at EA is like yelling at God. There is nobody there.
If for some reason there IS someone, he's not listening.
If for some reason there is someone there listening, he does not give a ****.
If there is somebody listening and caring, all you actaully are doing is pissing him off anyway. |
Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2283
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:45:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:
The article you linked clearly imply direct personnal attack.
As for talking down to the company, I invite people to read the following :
Yelling at EA is like yelling at God. There is nobody there.
If for some reason there IS someone, he's not listening.
If for some reason there is someone there listening, he does not give a ****.
If there is somebody listening and caring, all you actaully are doing is pissing him off anyway.
The 'personal attacks' were legit gripes about a crap game release and a crappier response to the community, which equated to chortling, sticking their nose in the air, and telling the peasants to be grateful and shut up lest they have all their games taken.
Anyway, let them be pissed off. The gamers have a right to **** off whoever is listening if they don't even act on the complaints. Imagine something like that trying to fly in Eve. The Jita Riots would look like child's play.
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Verunae Caseti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
51
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:45:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:You know, under normal circumstances, I think it would a lot less of an issue. But it had now been 24 hours, and CCP has yet to press release.
What are you talking about? This thread started with a press release.
Quote:Decker has yet to address the playerbase.
One day on the job is sufficient time in your view to "address the playerbase" of a game with which he hasn't even been confirmed to be directly involved? What's he going to say besides "Hello!" exactly?
Quote:And it has nothing to do with paranoia. It has to do with the hundreds and possibly thousands of players that subscribe to this game, month after month, pouring their hard earned dollars into it.
What aobut them?
Quote:Because I did find this absolutely magical place, ironically my "first mmo," not the "other one."
How is that in any way ironic?
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
642
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Posted - 2013.07.03 17:39:00 -
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I think we're all very, -very- curious about Decker's portfolio, and why CCP is bringing him in. We've gotten a pretty clear indication by way of the various articles and leaks, but CCP confirmation and elaboration would definitely help. Is he given a free hand to microtransaction it all up? Or is it more that he has a sense about these things, and is being instructed to pursue a very light-weight approach to these things...? |
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