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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:19:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:What do you know about his responsibilities?
Nothing! Because no one tells me what they are! " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
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Enyeto Perah
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:21:00 -
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You had several replies telling you what his job is! Say NO to CCP-EA.
http://pastebin.com/B7HCtBUE Mittani isn't sorry. He's just sorry that he got caught. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:22:00 -
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Enyeto Perah wrote:You had several replies telling you what his job is!
Yes, but not what his responsibilities are
According to those replies, his job is to read the forums, find out what people want and tellt he devs to do it
This does not seem at all likely and is also not exactly a real job " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1455
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:22:00 -
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If the alternative is a Pay-To-Win microtransaction pushing, you-can-take-the-man-out-of-EA-but-not-EA-out-of-the-man, playerbase ignoring bad ideas factory then I absolutely hope he is just a pointless chairwarmer |

Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
454
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:24:00 -
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Miner Hottie wrote:Welcome Sean Decker to CCP and the Eve Online world. If you read this thread you will no doubt notice some very strong opinions about your employment history. Take note of this. The player base of Eve is passionate, opinionated and despite our in game efforts to make ourselves look like knuckle dragging reprobates with low sloping foreheads, we are actually generally at the higher end of the gamer skill, intelligence, experience and age. Many of us have long memories of games long past. If you do not take note of the history of Eve Online, if you repeat the mistakes of the past, then watch us do what we the player base did before.
Consider this a welcome, not warm, not cold, but a wake up call to the world you have stepped into.
Best of luck, I think you will need it.
This is so hilarious. We are the elite gamers in the universe. We are the best. Where's your proof that one word of this is true? If I were this guy reading this crap I would hoot. This is certainly who you think you are but it's not who you look like on this thread. This guy has likely dealt with enough ego-inflated gamers to know better than to believe this horse manure. |

Caleb Ayrania
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
182
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:26:00 -
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There is a bit of irony in this thread, and response to Sean joining the dev ranks.
CCP is one of the few remaining game developers with respect for their customers.
They have proven this in many way during the last 10 years. They actually engage the playerbase and listen.
They are however also a business and if you want to play in the big boys game, where CCP seem to be trending with their now impressive trackrecord, then you need someone punching in the same weight-class.
New Eden is growing. Its now 3 actual parts with a lot of space to grow even bigger.
WoD is a potentially HUGE market, and needs a lot of perfecting, to not fall for the flaws of the genre (faux-mmos)
What I think is vital is to have someone like Sean to help figuring out how to market in the current competition.
In short how do CCP get into these markets without breaking their model, the hearts of their playerbase and their investors portfolios.
This is possible and we will get something mindblowing, and postive, but its still ccp they are becoming famous for doing everything drunken-master style.
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
359
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:38:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:]This does not seem at all likely and is also not exactly a real job
It is a real job. It's a producer's job to streamline production. They direct so the others can do their jobs.
Also, CCP needs a community manager like WoW or EQII has, because devs banning or closing threads look b-a-d. When I see that here I see small company, so small the devs that's suppose to be working on stuff are managing forums, instead. That's not what devs are suppose to be doing. Sure post here and there, but not actively managing the forum itself.
As the saying goes, you need to spend money to make money in business. Professionalism and the image of it counts. Look what Blizzard does when a dev posts. No mistaking it's a dev, the text is blue and it has a fancy background. That shows polish and projects an image of professionalism, like an office letterhead.
And this guy will probably tell them about these things to get them squared away, and getting their office running like the big boys.
There's a lot stuff to do and organization is key. Blizzard has top production values, no one denies that. Their gameplay decisions though, they need another team! "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:40:00 -
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http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/07/02/ccps-sean-decker-and-hilmar-petursson-on-the-future-of-eve-dus/
Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

Alaura Aquila
Sarz'na Khumatari The Unthinkables
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:43:00 -
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Caleb Ayrania wrote:
What I think is vital is to have someone like Sean to help figuring out how to market in the current competition.
In short how do CCP get into these markets without breaking their model, the hearts of their playerbase and their investors portfolios.
This is possible and we will get something mindblowing, and postive, but its still ccp they are becoming famous for doing everything drunken-master style.
So, in essence you are saying something like how some firms interested in security to hire people like Kevin Mitnick to help them because he actually did bad things so he would know how to deal with that stuff? I guess that's one way to do it. |

seth Hendar
I love you miners
99
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:48:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:Incarna was only an issue because of the difference between what was originally offered, and what was delivered...not,as some people claim, because no one wanted WiS.
People wanted, and still want WiS, we just didnt get it, we got a single room to sit and upload videos into, which is cool and all, but its not WiS.
On topic: I am on crappy laptop, so cant open a bazillion links, but, unless he was the guy who was personally responsible for the EA messes in the past, it is not an issue for me where he worked before. sorry but i think you are wrong.
most eve player don't want WiS.
i play eve to play internet spaceships, not space SIMS, and i absolutely don't give a F about it.
now, incarna was bad because of WiS for many for this reason. it was also bad for the players (wich is a minority imaho) who wanted WiS, you described the reason yourself pretty well.
but mot of all, the riots took place because of the whole MT thingy that gone public at this time.
back on topic, i really don't like this, i know too well how many games EA crushed to death lately, some of them being handled by this person listen to the player base to improve games? seriously? look whee we are with odyssey: CCP ignored SISI feedback, still ignoring feedback / issues.
now how this new employee would be better at that, especially when one know how he "listened" to the C&C player base....
this is not good for EvE, thus for us.
i might be wrong (and i honnestly hope i am), but i give 1 or 2 years max before EvE online to catch the "EA Cancer" |
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
554
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:49:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:]This does not seem at all likely and is also not exactly a real job It is a real job. It's a producer's job to streamline production. They direct so the others can do their jobs.
He doesn't make anything
He doesn't come up with ideas about what should be made
He doesn't prototyope or brainstorm anything
This role is meaningless
It was created by people like him to give people like him a cushy job where they can seem so damn important and get paid a lot to tell people who actually have skills and talent what to do. It is utterly utterly purposeless and unnecessary " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:50:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:]This does not seem at all likely and is also not exactly a real job It is a real job. It's a producer's job to streamline production. They direct so the others can do their jobs. He doesn't make anything He doesn't come up with ideas about what should be made He doesn't prototyope or brainstorm anything This role is meaningless
It's a pity you didn't get in touch with CCP and offer to do that nothing for half the salary.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
555
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:52:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:
It's a pity you didn't get in touch with CCP and offer to do that nothing for half the salary.
Id do it for free but Im not in the boy's club that dishes out these roles.
Because doing nothing for free is easy, working out how to get paid a five or six figure salary for it is quite different " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
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Caleb Ayrania
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:55:00 -
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Alaura Aquila wrote:Caleb Ayrania wrote:
What I think is vital is to have someone like Sean to help figuring out how to market in the current competition.
In short how do CCP get into these markets without breaking their model, the hearts of their playerbase and their investors portfolios.
This is possible and we will get something mindblowing, and postive, but its still ccp they are becoming famous for doing everything drunken-master style.
So, in essence you are saying something like how some firms interested in security will hire people like Kevin Mitnick to help them because he actually did bad things so he would know how to deal with that stuff? I guess that's one way to do it. Oh and Wernher Von Braun and NASA is another good example :)
Pretty much exactly that.
Even more specific. If your trying to develop a competitive novel approach it would be really useful having some guy that knows all the tricks in the current crappy lets Frack our customers and milk them for money without adding value.
The challenge for ccp and Sean is to find out how to add value and create products we actually want. The new shop and recent Collectors Edition launch were good examples, and a PI on android sound pretty potentially like a good product. If many of the virtual ones come with a PLEX buying or rebate option it might not be such a hard sell. Also if we could pay something like 10-25% more for our real shop hoodies and get them ingame mirrored I am sure that would be popular. Hell there are plenty of players getting actual PERMANENT tattoos on their real skin. Would it not be fair to let them PLEX for the same tattoos ingame. HELL that should almost be a demanded feature that CCP offered all the players getting them at Fanfest and other "official" events.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
10506
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:57:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:]This does not seem at all likely and is also not exactly a real job It is a real job. It's a producer's job to streamline production. They direct so the others can do their jobs. Also, CCP needs a community manager like WoW or EQII has, because devs banning or closing threads look b-a-d. When I see that here I see small company, so small the devs that's suppose to be working on stuff are managing forums, instead. That's not what devs are suppose to be doing. Sure post here and there, but not actively managing the forum itself.
Those "devs" are community managers. 
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
596
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:01:00 -
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Nothing to worry about, his offical position is a non influential human door stop or so some people will have us believe. |

Zane Tekitsu
D.I.C.A.D. Solutions
30
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:06:00 -
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Melana Emmagan wrote:Zane Tekitsu wrote: I find your idea of good C&C disturbing...
My bad, confused TT with TW. That makes at least one horrible, ruined game franchise on his list. If he ever flies around in EVE I might have to pod him after all...
I'm just sorry you thought I was talking about anything after 2000 being C&C... |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
555
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:19:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Nothing to worry about, his offical position is a non influential human door stop or so some people will have us believe.
Ooooh no
just because he's being paid to have someone polish his beemer
Doesn't mean he won't proffer halfbaked and ruining notions about what improves the "customer experience" and other such vomit-inducing management-speak " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
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JD No7
Malevolent Intentions Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:21:00 -
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Agree with most things CCP do but this is ruinous. |

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1455
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:31:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Malcanis wrote:
It's a pity you didn't get in touch with CCP and offer to do that nothing for half the salary.
Id do it for free but Im not in the boy's club that dishes out these roles. Because doing nothing for free is easy, working out how to get paid a five or six figure salary for it is quite different
Then he must be working pretty hard at doing that |
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Dominous Nolen
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
16
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:36:00 -
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CCP's Sean Decker and Hilmar Petursson on the future of EVE, DUST 514, EVE-VR, and mobile gaming >> http://www.reddit.com/tb/1hk37y
Interesting read, |

Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
50
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:39:00 -
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As long as he leaves EA at EA I don't see a problem. Oh who am I kidding.
FTP + Micro Transactions
~CCP 2013~ |

RomeStar
Empire Investments Logistics
208
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:40:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:RomeStar wrote:Malcanis wrote:"Flushed with pride" I would hope you CSM members are vocal about this hire and relay the players concerns that he will turn EVE into a microtranscation themepark. If he does intorduce microtransactions have fun playing by yourself. Believe me, CCP are well aware that P2W MTs are a bad, bad, bad idea. And we will remind them.
Thank you sir you have instilled some confidence in me atleast but there is still a doubt that CCP will do the right thing. The first micoT i see that = P2W im gone.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
10507
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:43:00 -
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Why not just link to the story? http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/07/02/ccps-sean-decker-and-hilmar-petursson-on-the-future-of-eve-dus/
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Zacoros Tandar
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:56:00 -
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So, do ya'll really think that means things like a new ship skin (paint job), and those arm tattoos someone found on the test server, things like that... nice things, will be micro-transactions?
In the article he used the example of the dual-training, well that costs a plex, and there is nothing micro about the cost of a plex, in real money or in game. That would be a macro-transaction + a monthly sub.
Why can the players not create the paint jobs, get the blueprints from wherever blueprints come from, and make them with PI materials or something, then sell them on the market.
Why must we potentially pay more real money when we already pay a subscription. It is wrong.
"I see the world as a micro-transaction" - Sean Decker, CCP Games - Senior Vice President of Product Development. |

Dominous Nolen
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
16
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:00:00 -
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Pardon, just grabbed the link i was following. |

Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
293
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:00:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Malcanis wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Can some one tell me what his job actually involves? Basically he's doing what was Hilmar's job. I don't know what that was either, sorry So what is the pecking order at CCP?
At times, it seems Soundwave calls the shots.
Grayscale seems to do his own alterations and changes with a carte blanche stance. I don't like this so...
There are all these little groups that may or may not get something included during one of the various expansions or patches - Team Avatar comes to mind.
One of the minute notes from a recent CSM meeting seem that CCP hired another - forgot the name, but brought up the aspect of "theme expansions" as directing the future of Eve.
Hilmar was overseeing the direction but now brought in a Vice President to do that task...?
Perhaps CCP's laid back corporate stance will become a rigid order. |

Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
535
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:01:00 -
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Zacoros Tandar wrote:
"I see the world as a micro-transaction" - Sean Decker, CCP Games - Senior Vice President of Product Development.
Fun fact: he's right. |

Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
535
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:04:00 -
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Guttripper wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Malcanis wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Can some one tell me what his job actually involves? Basically he's doing what was Hilmar's job. I don't know what that was either, sorry So what is the pecking order at CCP? At times, it seems Soundwave calls the shots. Grayscale seems to do his own alterations and changes with a carte blanche stance. I don't like this so...There are all these little groups that may or may not get something included during one of the various expansions or patches - Team Avatar comes to mind. One of the minute notes from a recent CSM meeting seem that CCP hired another - forgot the name, but brought up the aspect of "theme expansions" as directing the future of Eve. Hilmar was overseeing the direction but now brought in a Vice President to do that task...? Perhaps CCP's laid back corporate stance will become a rigid order.
More ongoing projects.
More stuff to be managed.
Hillmar only ahs one head to deal with all that.
Hiring a VP to assign him jobs to manage like every god damn corporation do when they get big.
I wonder if maybe it's just happening because of that... |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
556
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:06:00 -
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Guttripper wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Malcanis wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Can some one tell me what his job actually involves? Basically he's doing what was Hilmar's job. I don't know what that was either, sorry So what is the pecking order at CCP? At times, it seems Soundwave calls the shots. Grayscale seems to do his own alterations and changes with a carte blanche stance. I don't like this so...There are all these little groups that may or may not get something included during one of the various expansions or patches - Team Avatar comes to mind. One of the minute notes from a recent CSM meeting seem that CCP hired another - forgot the name, but brought up the aspect of "theme expansions" as directing the future of Eve. Hilmar was overseeing the direction but now brought in a Vice President to do that task...? Perhaps CCP's laid back corporate stance will become a rigid order.
We have a saying for it where I come from "Jobs for the boys"
Its getting nearly as bad as politicians around here " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
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